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From Breasts to Boobs and Back Again

Posted: 05/11/2012 3:27 pm

There are too many issues related to the recent TIME Magazine cover for me to address them all. Is the photo incendiary? Yes. Did the boy have a choice about whether to be in the photo? Probably, but I doubt he understood it. Do kids really stand on chairs to nurse? Who cares? But I kind of hope so, because it's hilarious. Are you a bad mother if you don't breastfeed your child? No. Is attachment parenting better than other kinds of parenting? No, it's just different. Will I buy TIME Magazine? No, I will steal it. Do I enjoy breasts? Yes. Do I like heavy metal music? You bet. Does that have anything to do with anything? No it does not.

I was breastfed as a baby. Honestly, I feel squirmy even typing "breast." Twelve years after I stopped nursing, breasts became boobs, and then in high school they became tits (and a plethora of other names), and now, as a husband and father, they're back to breasts. I've come full circle. I see them as a means of nourishing children, and as sexual objects. I'm not sure how I feel about that. The fact that I sexualize the one piece of female anatomy from which I once fed, makes me feel grotesquely simple. I think that feeling is at the heart of why people are uncomfortable with the recent image on the cover of TIME Magazine.

There are plenty of reasons people have strong knee-jerk reactions to seeing a 3- or 4-year-old boy sucking on his mother's breast, the most prominent of them is a general feeling that it's "wrong" or "weird." When you ask someone what they mean by that, their most common answer is, "Well, it just doesn't seem right."

Think about how you might feel if, instead of a boy, the cover showed that same mother breast feeding a 3-year-old girl standing on a chair. It's different, isn't it? The sensationalization of the photo isn't only based in its ridiculous composition, but also on the gender of the child. If you haven't already, consider the possibility that one of the reasons people find the idea so unsettling is because a boy of that age sucking on his mother's breast looks and feels sexual.

I understand that we don't often see pictures of "big kids" nursing. I even do a joke in my stand-up that children should stop breastfeeding when they start wearing shoes and jeans. Watching my child nurse while in his Halloween costume was surreal. My wife feeding what appeared to be a limp Bob the Builder puppet was funny, sweet, and yes a little weird, but not gross or wrong. And it certainly wasn't even remotely sexual. We aren't really sexual beings until after puberty (don't get all Freud on me here). And no, I'm not saying that kids should be allowed to nurse until they sprout an underarm hair. I'm simply pointing out that if you feel the photograph is vaguely sexual -- and I think many do, whether they're willing to admit it or not -- you're f%$king dead wrong. If you extract that misguided sense that the kid is old enough to enjoy a breast as if it were a boob, suddenly all those unexplainable feelings about it being wrong or gross, float out into the ether where they belong.

Any age we might come up with as a cutoff for breast feeding is completely arbitrary. Should a kid drive a Camero to his mom's house to nurse? Of course not. But should a child be weaned merely because it can walk, talk, eat solids, or change the wallpaper on your iPhone? The gut reaction is yes, but why? Is it because, as a culture, we associate sexual maturity with appearance? If the boy in the photo had been naked except for a diaper, would it have generated the same reaction? How about a tuxedo? Boxers and a wife beater? How about if he was wearing a top hat and a monocle? A fake beard? Holding a gun? Smoking a cigar? What if he was naked and had an erection? The last one is harder to read than the others, isn't it? That's odd, given it's the only one of them that's natural (and no, erections aren't always sexual).

Let's remember that the child is 3. Don't forget how litte 3-year-olds are. It's why the photographer had him stand on a chair. Otherwise, he'd be sucking his mother's knee. And that, of course, would be funny and silly, and totally ok, because the knee isn't something that becomes a sexual object later in the boy's life. But but but, maybe if he sucks on his mom's knee, he'll develop some kinky attraction to knees, and one of his girlfriends might publish a story in Cosmo called "The Knee Sucker." Oh my God, the horror.

It's puritanical, and all based on highly subjective feelings. There are simply no facts (that I'm aware of) that show nursing after a certain age is bad for a kid. Since it's such a personal thing, maybe we should just leave it up to the mother and child to decide what's best. Women are already fighting enough battles over what they're allowed to do with their bodies. Let's not add another one.

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There are too many issues related to the recent TIME Magazine cover for me to address them all. Is the photo incendiary? Yes. Did the boy have a choice about whether to be in the photo? Probably, but ...
There are too many issues related to the recent TIME Magazine cover for me to address them all. Is the photo incendiary? Yes. Did the boy have a choice about whether to be in the photo? Probably, but ...
 
 
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04:06 PM on 06/04/2012
I feel it has nothing to do with the sex of the child but more to do with them not needing to breastfeed at such an age. The cover of time magazine didn't have me feeling uncomfortable or feeling "weird" as it shouldn't. It's a photo of a mother and child. Nothing more nothing less BUT do I feel it's good to breastfeed that long? No. I feel it's more for selfish reasons, more for the mother than it is the child. Too many mothers today "helecopter" their children wether it be breastfeeding way past their time or sleeping with their children for years. It is our job to teach them independance so they will enter the world as healthy adults one day. This need to prolong their youth by committing such acts as having them breastfeed which is what babies do not pre-schoolers seems like a scream for attention by the mother. The child wouldn't know any different otherwise. It's her own "needs" being met.
03:54 PM on 06/04/2012
Frankly, I am not someone who subscribes to attachment parenting. Actually I reject all forms of "this parenting style works best", because it doesn't. Not for every child. As my pediatrician put it when my daughter wasn't even a week old and I was asking him about feeding schedules and why my daughter doesn't follow the book: "Babies and children are not robots. They are individuals, like yourself".

My daughter hated being swaddled as a newborn, still craves "alone" time in her swing where she will sit and babble to you and laugh, but doesn't really feel like being held (just don't walk out of the room). She's hitting all her milestones, and is healthy and happy and NOT breastfed, but currently loves sweet potatoes and bananas. I can't even imagine trying to attachment parent her, she'd freak out! It wouldn't work for either of us.

But that's my point, my child is an individual with individual needs, If I have another child, perhaps he/she will need the 24 hour closeness and constant skin to skin contact. Perhaps I will breastfeed my next child, perhaps I will be that mother on the TIME magazine 5 years from now. Perhaps not.

Just don't sit there an tell me I'm a "bad mom" because my daughter isn't hanging off my breast. There are different ways to parent. Respect mine, and I'll respect yours.
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MelanieGagnon
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09:48 AM on 06/01/2012
Lol! knee sucking...
01:57 PM on 05/16/2012
The first time I saw the cover I thought 'interesting, striking, strong, and what exactly is today's attachment parenting?' So I did research (I just love the web) and learned something. As a photographer, I can say we all want our art to cause someone to stop and look for the good or bad. As a 40 year old women whom couldn't have children I couldn't say what type of mother I would be. Since my initial meeting with the Time cover I've heard many things about the sexuality of the image, what the acceptable age to wean a child is and on and on and on... Well guess what Time mag. has achieved what they wanted with the cover and article, they have gotten people talking and thinking in an outside of the box, yea for them.
06:37 PM on 05/14/2012
Oh Jason. What wonderful word pictures you paint. You sound like a well adjusted father and I applaud your good intentions.

I have a daughter that waited to have a child until she was 40. Of course she wants to be the perfect parent and make no, or at least a minimal number of mistakes. She is attachment parenting and my granddaughter is healthy and strong. I, as matriarch of this little clan, made a multitude of errors, which I recognize. The thing that i insisted on was telling my children, on a daily basis, that I love them and think they are wonderful. Today I tell them I love them and am proud of them. Hopefully the love will cover old resentments and wounds.

Oh, and by the way, I breast fed them.
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05:26 PM on 05/14/2012
Oh, dear, I already didn't like the picture and now that the clothing the child is wearing has been pointed out as well as I'm looking more closely at how the mom is standing, they both appear to be looking at the camera...I like the picture even less. Militant Mom?
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01:04 PM on 05/14/2012
The fact that I sexualize the one piece of female anatomy from which I once fed, makes me feel grotesquely simple.

so, you're ok with sexualizing the one place of the female anatomy from which you came out, but not the one that fed you?

Think about how you might feel if, instead of a boy, the cover showed that same mother breast feeding a 3-year-old girl standing on a chair. It's different, isn't it?
maybe to you its different. dont assume everyone feels the same way you do.

i think i'm more concerned about the future of the child. he may forever be associated with that picture, and we all know how cruel kids can be.
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Jason Good
03:39 PM on 05/14/2012
I was born in a test tube. Please check my bio before associating me with vaginas. Thanks.
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Pantsy
10:46 AM on 05/15/2012
i'm glad you totally missed my point. and i dont make a habit of checking peoples profiles, but since you asked me to, i did. but, i have to be your friend to see your bio, so i wouldnt have known it anyway. (unless it is somewhere i'm not aware of, which is possible, since, like i said, i dont go around checking peoples profiles before i comment)
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12:11 PM on 05/14/2012
At some point you've got to think the mothers are enjoying it a little too much.
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Jason Good
04:16 PM on 05/15/2012
Enjoying the comfort she's providing her young child? Totally
03:57 PM on 06/04/2012
Now now, I think the poster has a point. At what point does the breastfeeding become something the mother enjoys (as a bonding form) more than the child needs/wants it. All mothers feel a little sad seeing their child grow up and need them less and less, so it is important, I would think, when attachment parenting to make sure you are monitoring your child's development with a pediatrician and therapist (if needed). Regardless of the benefits of nursing, there is a time when all animals must wean from their mothers. When exactly is that time? When mother is ready? When child is ready?
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11:17 AM on 05/14/2012
What I wonder about is the bonding issue, seeing as this has little if anything to do with nutrition. Having raised 2 loving children of my own, each day, month and year brought new ways to bond with them, and I was happy to see their new stages of development and to be part of that. My personal feeling about not breastfeeding a toddler or preschool child for bonding purposes has more to the do with the needs of the mother than the needs of the child. There are so many wonderful ways in which to bond with a child as they grow. A healthy part of parenting is knowing when to let go of one thing and embrace something new. Children are full of new and exciting things to share and engage with us.
04:07 PM on 06/04/2012
Exactly how I feel! Well typed.
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07:39 AM on 05/14/2012
"There are simply no facts (that I'm aware of) that show nursing after a certain age is bad for a kid." You should do at least some basic research then and you would discover that breastfeeding until such a late age and the other practices associated with attachment parenting do indeed cause harm. Primarily, they hinder the development of 'self soothing' skills, vital to any child's development.
06:27 PM on 05/14/2012
Where is your research for that? It is simply not true. AP teaches children to self-sooth when it is developmentally appropriate. Which is at about 2.5 years. Before then it is inappropriate and leads to a stressed baby. I am surprised that a "Zen Buddhist Priest" forgot about compassion.

I suggest you look into the research into "crying it out" that is being done at Harvard.
04:00 PM on 06/04/2012
Neither of you are posting sources, and that's pretty much because neither of you HAVE any credible sources that are not sponsored by attachment parenting websites or formula websites (which have other agendas). We simply do not know if there is a superior parenting style. Not enough research has been done.

I will say that it is very difficult to nurse and attachment parent in America. We have short, too short, maternity leaves, not enough support from doctors, employers, family, and the media, and little to zero education provided. We need to step up and support our women and fund the research!
08:42 AM on 05/13/2012
First off, Jason you are awesome and I love reading your posts. They make me laugh all the time.
Having posted a comment about this as a reaction to the actual picture, I will say this again- I think that we are as a society are used to seeing "babies" breastfeeding, but not used to seeing older toddlers and children doing so. Having witnessed this once in public when a 2-3 y.o. child walked over to his mother in synagogue and stuck his head under her shirt to nurse, I was taken aback, but not disgusted by it. My personal view is that at a point when children are able to receive the bulk of their nutrition from solids, then give them those foods during the day, and set aside special bonding times in the morning/night or whenever you are at home to bond with your older children through breastfeeding. If I am understanding this somewhat correctly, breastfeeding the older children is about the attachment/bonding, so I think that you could still have that in those quiet moments. An older child who is eating solids isn't going to need breast milk every 2-3 hours while out of the house, or a sip here and there when thirsty.
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10:34 PM on 05/12/2012
"Think about how you might feel if, instead of a boy, the cover showed that same mother breast feeding a 3-year-old girl standing on a chair."

Actually, I didn't even remember it was a boy until I went back and looked at it. Lots of girls have short hair at a young age and all I saw was a child that should already be eating solid food standing on a chair and feeding from his mother's breast. (Granted, I'm female)

Now, I'm not saying it's *wrong.* But there are reasons beyond "sexuality" that people feel uncomfortable with that picture.

We have an idea of certain "milestones" in a person's lifetime, and when you take longer than "normal" to reach or go beyond those milestones, people become concerned and possibly uncomfortable. It's also why most people would feel uncomfortable with the idea of a child wearing diapers into elementary school or beyond.

So no, it's not about boobs. And it doesn't matter what the gender of the child is. For most people the idea of a toddler feeding from his or her mother's breast is disturbing on a developmental level because it is not the norm. (The norm not necessarily denoting "right" or "good" but merely the accepted standard.)
07:22 PM on 05/13/2012
The child is already eating solids. Children eat AND nurse when they are over about 6 months old. The APA recommends nursing a minimum of 24 months and as long after that as is desired by mother and child. In Canada they recommend a minimum of 36 months.

No, it is not the norm in the US. But it should be. Our children would be a lot healthier for it.
09:54 PM on 05/12/2012
Actually I'd have had the same reaction if the child had been a girl - the same reaction I have when I see a five year old in a stroller.

http://www.toobigforstroller.com/
01:12 AM on 05/13/2012
The fact that someone felt so annoyed at a child in a stroller to make a website around the topic is more ridiculous than a 5 year old in a stroller. Someone needs to get a life.
04:10 PM on 06/04/2012
Actually, a 5 year old in a stroller is a problem. We live in a day and age where children don't get enough exercise so by enabling them to laze about in a stroller when it is our jobs as parents to teach them a healthy lifestyle is important. Too many parents cave in these days no wonder we have a lot of over weight children.
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11:47 AM on 05/12/2012
Thanks so much, Jason, for lightening up the conversation!
03:30 AM on 05/12/2012
No, the reason people are uncomfortable is it's a kid much older than normally thought as breast feeding age.
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Jason Good
04:19 PM on 05/15/2012
Sure, I understand that. The question I'm asking in the article is why that makes people uncomfortable. Sure, the kid is "older," but what makes that innately wrong? My contention is it's our misguided sense that the child might be enjoying it in ways a child shouldn't.