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No Wiggle Room


There's no wiggle room when it comes to methods of interrogation, such as waterboarding, that raise palpable, and unavoidable questions about whether this government will find it in its power to nuance torture such that it becomes what this president has called "enhanced alternate" methods by which to extract information with coercion, and in violation of Geneva and international law. The days of letting glorified yes men, and evaders-in-chief slip through the cracks with a wink and a nod are over. Even if we deny accountability, and culpability, the rest of the world will hold us responsible, if not in our lifetimes than for generations to come.

Kudos to the senator from Massachusetts, Senator Kennedy, for actively, and eloquently opposing Michael Mukasey's nomination for Attorney General. That Senators Feinstein and Schumer have said they will vote in support of Mukasey is a frightening statement about the kind of America our grandchildren will have to look forward to whether Democrats or Republicans win election, and hold office. No one who supports an ethos that consists of "the ends justifies the means," and the exercise of force over dialogue, deserves to sit in the Oval Office.

If a former First Lady, Nancy Reagan, could get as much mileage as she did out of the phrase "Just Say No to Drugs," it's time for those who represent all Americans, in Congress, to stand up, once and for all, and "Just Say No to Torture." As Voltaire once said, "Common sense is not so common." Stop the madness; stop it now

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09:37 AM on 11/05/2007
Better to have no AG than to have one who believes bush is the supreme leader and acts accordingly.
jhNY
Mercy.
01:53 PM on 11/04/2007
Now that our tireless defenders of the constitution from the democratic party no longer see fit to bring up the little matter of the Geneva Convention (which as signers and designers we officially made the law of the US), we should all be able to easily see what pitiful empty baggage we've got to represent us. Afraid to take a strong stand on torture while under oath to protect the constitution, afraid to inititiate the only legal remedy available to end the criminal administration, afraid to stop funding an ongoing war crime--- afraid afraid afraid. I'm afraid they cannot be trusted to do their jobs. I'm afraid they don't deserve my vote again.
11:41 PM on 11/03/2007
Senators Feinstein and Schumer were just heeding the President's advice: "Some in Washington should spend more time responding to the warnings of terrorists like Osama bin Laden and the requests of our commanders on the ground and less time responding to the demands of MoveOn.org bloggers and Code Pink protesters."

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=4781

Remember, if we don't give the Prez everything he asks for, we are enabling terrorists and putting Americans at risk!
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10:23 PM on 11/03/2007
Not enough people Jayne, take in what the rest of the world thinks and yet so few actually do travel that frequently except under escort, that maybe your good name matters not. As someone who has traveled frequently and lived in several other countries than my own, I know that true patriotism comes when living abroad and looking back on your own nation and comparing it with where you are at any one time. Coming from a small country I have been in at least fifteen other capital cities and mingled with the natives and been proud of my England. Be proud to travel anywhere in the world an be proud of your nation and its policies and its government. I consider it might take three years to put it right with good management and don't be so pompous as to think your are too big to care. So was Rome so was Egypt so was Greece.
09:56 PM on 11/03/2007
So we're fixing to have an AG that who doesn't know what waterboarding is - so he can't tell us if it's torture or not - and believes that the president is above the law.

What has this country come to? I used to be proud of my country (and being from Texas). No more.
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09:47 PM on 11/03/2007
Let's see, Geneva conventions, signed by the US. Doesn't that mean that the GC's are a part of US law? I'm pretty sure that's what the constitution says, that if we sign a treaty, it's the same as if the congress passed a law, and the president signed it. So since this man has proven himself to be violating several US and international laws, WHY IS HE STILL IN OFFICE?????? If Clinton could get impeached for a BJ, why is this man not going to be impeached for major HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS???
09:42 PM on 11/03/2007
Awha...

Can we keep a little wiggle-room for when Bu$h, Cheney and the rest of this criminal cabal are out of office so we have the tools in order to interrogate them effectively?

Please, please? :)
09:30 PM on 11/03/2007
Good post, Jayne.
08:26 PM on 11/03/2007
Amen. And after we have said no to torture, maybe we can say no to Bush and Cheney: Impeach them now.
07:53 PM on 11/03/2007
There is a fundamental flaw in the stated reason of Schumer and Feinstein for their pathetic performance in voting for Mukasey. They act like there is some importance to this country in our not having an Attorney General who is worse than him. Where this rationalization breaks down, though, is that Bush did not need an AG as bad as Gonzales was for Bush to be as bad as Bush has been, and will continue to be. I guess you could say that the only thing that Gonzo scored “Exceeds Expectations” in was mediocrity. He was in so far over his head that an AG even half as good as the minimum we need would have been at least twice as good as that sycophant that Bush dragged with him from Texas.

But the critical point here is that Bush, in Mukasey, has clearly chosen a candidate who will be as bad at running the Justice Department as Bush needs him to be. Bush did not settle for less than that, and will only ever do so if a way is found to force the issue. Chuck, Diane, once you hit “bad enough”, there is no “worse”. That’s just your excuse for the willing complicity in a continuing travesty.

Now comes a more important test, though. It is indisputable that the Mukasey appointment can still be defeated, and that there is a raft of compelling reasons for someone on the Democratic side to take the lead in insuring that it happens. Filibuster! If necessary filibuster the entire goddamned remainder of the Bush term into oblivion. Someone needs to at least act like they understand the importance of trying to derail this wild assed bunch of money and oil crazed maniacs masquerading as real government officials.

Yeah, it wouldn’t be easy, but if this appointment goes through, or Bush wins even a one more controversial point in a cakewalk, then there simply is no important reason for a single incumbent to be returned to Congress.