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Fat Activist Lesley Kinzel on How to Stop Dieting and Start Loving Your Body

Posted: 06/12/2012 12:44 pm

I'm finally tackling a subject I've been consciously avoiding: fat acceptance. For those unfamiliar with the subject, fat acceptance is all about treating fat people with dignity and respect. Activists argue that the disrespect and discrimination that fat people face day in, day out is hazardous to their physical and mental health.

Truthfully, I'm all for self-acceptance, but I've had trouble embracing the fat acceptance movement. While I wholeheartedly agree that everyone deserves dignity and respect, when it comes to abandoning healthy, sustainable weight loss as a goal, well, I'm not so sure that's such a good idea. I've certainly tried to cozy up to the range of ideas, but after several troublesome exchanges with leading advocates, the subject seemed more trouble than it was worth.

Until, that is, I devoured "Two Whole Cakes," the delightful, insightful new book by fat activist Lesley Kinzel. This self-help book that reads like a novel about Kinzel's personal war on her own obesity wasn't the only thing that opened my mind to what the movement has to offer. Kinzel's book, however, was the proverbial icing on the cake. Even if you're not interested in fat acceptance, Kinzel's thoughts are interesting on their own.

Before we get to questions and answers from our illuminating lunchtime chat, let me recount the ways I came to be more accepting of fat acceptance.

1) My views started shifting when plus-size models started striking provocative poses in the media. Best case in point: Dove's Campaign for Real Beauty. Through a series of inspired ad campaigns, the venerable soap company challenged me and my less-than-enlightened sisters to expand our definition of beauty to include a wider variety of shapes and sizes.

2) At the same time, reading the exciting new research on self-compassion, it became abundantly clear that when you're more compassionate, and less critical, about your imperfect shape, it's only natural to stop striving for physical perfection and start accepting yourself just as you are. When it comes to the health benefits of greater acceptance -- brighter outlooks, better moods, greater perspective -- size doesn't matter.

3) My big "aha" moment, as I mentioned, was "Two Whole Cakes" -- the book and the blog. For those unfamiliar with Kinzel's work, she's a popular blogger on size acceptance, fat fashion and women's issues as well as an associate editor at xoJane. After devouring "Two Whole Cakes," in which Kinzel tells stories, gives advice and challenges stereotypes about being and feeling fat, I was moved to do more than pick the mind of this compassionate one for more illuminating insights. I picked up the phone and invited Kinzel to lunch.

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I was counting on the prolific wordsmith to explain fat acceptance in the same clear, quotable and laugh-out-loud language in which she writes. Plus, I simply had to see for myself if, in fact, the fat authoress was who she claims to be -- that rare woman who loves her body.

Without further adieu, one of my favorite interviews in recent history.

Q. You proudly call yourself fat? Why is that?

A. By calling myself "fat," I'm saying this is who I am. This is the body I have. This is the right body for me because it's the one I'm living with. I know there's a lot of political tangling about the use of words that are considered slurs. I wouldn't call "fat" a slur, but it's traditionally been an insult. "Fat" is not a bad word. Rather than saying "overweight," which implies there is a correct weight, I'm using "fat" purely as a descriptive word. Just using the word has acceptance almost understood. I know a lot of women don't use it that way. When they say, "I'm so fat!" what they really mean is, "Tell me I'm not."

Q. People talk about fat acceptance, but I'm not sure everyone knows what that means. Can you define "fat acceptance" and explain why we should care, especially if we're not fat?

A. It's basically the idea that fat people should have the option not to hate themselves and their bodies. Not to say that everyone has to like it, but that people should feel as enabled to take a path of self-acceptance and contentment at the size they are. It's important for women to understand that culturally, they're under so much pressure. Even the most beautiful woman has days when she thinks she's hideous. Part of that may be what people do, but part of it is this culture of perfection and this strict and narrowly-defined beauty ideal. There is a tremendous liberation in seeing and hearing from women who say, "I don't care. I am happy. I am not listening to people who tell me I'm unacceptable. I'm going to be the person that I am and I'm going to do it in the fullest, loudest manner possible."

Even if that's not your style, there's something incredibly energizing about seeing that someone can do that. Even if it makes you think: "Maybe I could be a little easier on myself. Maybe I don't need to think I won't be able to wear a bathing suit unless I drop at least five pounds." Wear the bathing suit. Wear it!

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Q. Truthfully, I embrace the idea of accepting our bodies, ourselves, but I've been put off by the fat-acceptance rhetoric. Until, that is, I read "Two Whole Cakes," which is the first book on the subject that's funny, fascinating and life-changing. Who are you trying to reach?

A. Men and women. We condensed the book down for the sake of making it really accessible. You can read it in an evening. I know the book as it stands doesn't really go out of its way [to be all-inclusive], but I like to think there's something in there for men.

Q. You say: "Your body is not a tragedy," and yet, the bullying you've endured because of your size is nothing short of an American tragedy. Why do you think the obese have become the object of such disdain and cruelty?

A. I hate to blame the media, but in terms of representation, it's rare that we see fat people in circumstances that are A) not making a big deal out of their size, and B) not making them look incredibly tragic and unhappy. The most obvious example I use is "The Biggest Loser." The whole show is about how they [the contestants] need to be harassed and punished into behaving like "normal" people. Everything they're doing is wrong, so these authoritarian people come in and tell them how to live in their bodies. The reward is being recognized as a functional, contributing member of society. That's such a harmful caricature. It erases individual nuances. The reality is that people of all sizes go on vacation, fall in love, read books, write books, have jobs, kids and families. But these things get erased when your health and size are the most important things.

Q. It's the rare American woman who can say, "I love my body," but that's what you're saying. How did you learn to love all 300 pounds of yourself?

A. I am in a place where I love my body! I got there mostly because I worked really hard at it. It's possible in spurts, but we also have to acknowledge that there are also going to be days that you hate the way you look. For me, it's [loving your body is] a code for acknowledging that I'm going to have good days and I'm going to have bad days, but I'm not going to beat myself up about either. I'm just going to accept that these feelings about my body are going to change from day to day, as well as 10-20 years from now. This is a process. It's not a destination.

Q. Why did you finally stop dieting?

A. I started dieting at 8 or 9 years old, and I stopped when I was 18 because it wasn't working. I wasn't striving for acceptance at that point. It was more me saying, "I'm tired of trying and trying and trying and feeling like crap all the time (not to mention consumed by dieting and self-loathing.)" The final nail in the coffin was my gall bladder. After this absurd zero-fat, super-vegan diet that I was on before I got my gall bladder out, I only lost two or three pounds. I ate like a rabbit for almost four months and for what? I remember thinking: "I'm going to try something else. I'm going to be good to myself. I'm going to eat food that I like. I'm going to listen to my body, and be comfortable, and try that path and see where it takes me." That's where I am now.

Q. Some readers are concerned that you're giving fat people permission to give up on themselves, implying that you have given up on yourself. What do you say to those critics?

A. I'm absolutely giving fat people permission to stop dieting. I'm not saying this is what you should do or must do, but I am saying that you can stop. That you can give accepting yourself a shot. I hear from a lot of people that I'm making it OK to be fat. Well, it is OK to be fat. People are fat. [What's not OK is] the body-shaming and policing [of fat people]. Somehow, people have this idea that they've got the right to comment on fat bodies. One of the things that makes it hard to be fat, happy and healthy is you have this constant threat of harassment. Ironically, this public commentary can make it really difficult to go for a jog. It becomes a self-fulfilling disaster.

Q. In your book, you call Michelle Obama "the biggest bully of them all" for scapegoating fat kids with her Let's Move! campaign. If you could sit down with the First Lady, what would you like to say to her?

A. My most important message for Michelle Obama is that focusing exclusively on fat kids is damaging to those kids. They're already being picked on. Having this institutionalized effort to further highlight them as a problem makes their lives worse, which makes it harder for them to be the most awesome people they can be. I would have no problem whatsoever with Let's Move! if it were focused on all children, but it's a terrible way of doing what could be a very good thing. Michelle Obama has an opportunity to say, "We're going to work as hard as possible for the best possible health for all kids regardless of what their size is." She could do that without causing any harm.

Q. What can you say about your husband's size, as well as how he feels about yours?

A. He's a fat guy, and he's one of the few guys I've known who hasn't made wise-ass comments [about my size]. He's incredibly supportive [about my body], but he's not always 100 percent happy with his own. I tell him: "I want you to be as comfortable with yourself as possible. If you think being more active will help, or eating more vegetables will help, I'll support you 100 percent."

Q. Anything else you want to say that I didn't ask?

A. If nothing else, what I try to get people to walk away with is knowing that any decisions they make about their bodies and their health needs to come from a place of self-love, and not self- loathing. Decisions to diet often come from seeing an unflattering picture of yourself or seeing yourself in a mirror where you don't look the way you think you want to look. That's a bad place to be making those decisions. If you want to make changes, make sure they're coming from a place that's not "I hate my arms" or "My husband is no longer interested in me sexually." [You'd do better to make decisions from]: "I want to take care of myself. I want to feel good. I want to feel comfortable."

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For me, Kinzel's appearance is worth at least 1,000 of her inspiring words. That this self-proclaimed "fatshionista" looks exquisitely comfortable in her own skin and her funky fashions is truly inspirational. Mindfully eating an omelette and whole wheat toast, she looked incredibly relaxed, confident and joyful in subtle shades of aqua-green.

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So concludes this, the second installment of my new body-image series. In the third installment, you'll learn how Dr. Christiane Northrup changed her bad body image for good. If you missed the premiere post, here's the link.

Jean Fain is a Harvard Medical School-affiliated psychotherapist specializing in eating issues, and the author of "The Self-Compassion Diet." For more information, see www.jeanfain.com. If you're one of those rare women who loves her body, do leave a comment and/or contact me through my website. This blogger is in search of future profile subjects as well as effective body-image programs.

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11:48 AM on 06/19/2012
I was just writing about this subject on my blog the other day: http://lisapapa.com/2012/05/slightly-off-topic-shame-doesnt-work/
Everyone is so concerned that fat people should be "healthy"--but what about mental health? That's important, too. What we're doing (shaming overweight people) doesn't seem to be working, so maybe we should think about how to work within the parameters of acceptance.
05:32 PM on 06/18/2012
Dear everyone: your personal anecdote about weight-loss cannot be extrapolated to the entire population. We all know naturally thin people who eat massive amounts of junk food and never exercise, and somehow they become thinner after every pint of ice cream they devour. We all know fat people who are constantly on diets, are exercising diligently, and are absolutely miserable because they are literally starving themselves. Every body is different.

Also, please provide me with these links about how fat people are totally driving up healthcare costs (seriously, I'd love to read the research; everyone regurgitates that fact but never has anything to back it up). You do know that hundreds of thousands of thin people have diabetes too, right?
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08:56 AM on 06/19/2012
Right on Ken!
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Erica Manfred
12:10 AM on 06/17/2012
Bravo! Great article and interview. Gotta read the book.
12:30 PM on 06/15/2012
Michelle Obama is not "scapgoating fat kids." She is promoting healthy living so that we - as in all of us - don't collapse under the weight of caring for a fat population. (Pun intended.) The overweight and obses are absolutly entitled to dignity and respect. No one is of less worth as a function of weight or lifestyle habit. With that in mind, however, "fat acceptance" promotes the idea that it's okay to live in a state of poor health, and to assign those costs to society...that it's okay to slowly kill your kids with food and inactivity. It's not acceptable.
05:45 AM on 06/15/2012
I struggle to truly buy into this .... Im all about acceptance and loving yourself before anyone else will. But as someone who has lost 80lbs and completely changed my life I'm glad I didnt just accept the fact that I was a fat person and I don't think anyone should just accept something like that. Surely life is all about striving to be the best version of yourself that you can become. No one is at their best when eating junk food and not fuelling their body and their lives with exercise. I guess these people just think that they are happy because until you try then you know no other way and dont understand the benefits of healthy, happy, active living? this is just my experience of weight loss and changes in lifestyle and no reflection on anyone else :)
09:49 PM on 06/14/2012
Fat people think they're happy until they do something that's not dieting, get off the couch, and actually lose the weight. Then they realize that they love this new, healthy, in shape body.
Look at Jennifer Hudson.. She used to love her curves. Now she can't imagine being any bigger than she is now.

There is a way to lose weight without sacrificing the things you love. If you diet, you won't lose the weight. But if you're fat, it's likely that you're not very healthy.
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urkiddinme
Former fatty turned fitness freak
01:34 AM on 06/15/2012
Stopping the lies to oneself (like calling that thing that looks like a pack of hot dogs on the back one's neck a "curve") is step one. No one (and not that Hudson was at this point) "loves" that they have to shop at special clothing stores, worrying if that chair at the dinner table on Thanksgiving is going to give way beneath them, sleep apnea, having difficulty tying their shoes, or being a woman and seeing that you weigh as much as a pro football player or heavyweight fighter...no matter how vehemently they try to convince themselves and everyone else that they do. There is nothing brave or empowering about carrying 50, 100, 150 pounds of fat on one's body. I've done it. "Sacrificing" sugar, nutritionally devoid processed food and hours wasted in front of the TV or laptop to be fit, lean and healthy is no sacrifice at all. It's my responsibility to myself.
12:15 PM on 06/14/2012
Some people diet. They often fail. Some people make healthy choices. These choices become habit and lead to better health. As the author points out, dieting is about what you can't eat. Choosing what you can and should eat is about simply making better choices.

You don't have to starve yourself or take on some extreme eating or exercise program to be healthier. Switch to whole grains, eat more fruit and veggies, move everyday. Take a look at your portion. Do you need to eat the whole thing? Do you need dessert with every meal, or just as an occasional treat? How much fast food do you eat? How much packaged food do you eat?

I agree that we set fat people up for a bad deal. If the expectation is for them to turn things around on a dime, drop 100 lbs overnight, and turn their bodies into those of Greek gods then of course we're setting them up for failure. The expectation should be to make better choices every day.

I want to be compassionate toward others, but I have to agree with some of the other posters. I don't like my insurance premiums going up to pay for diabetes care for someone in their 20's weighing 350lbs. I don't like getting on planes or going to the theatre, sporting events, the movies, etc. and having the overweight person sitting next to me actaully sitting on top of me.
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urkiddinme
Former fatty turned fitness freak
07:38 AM on 06/14/2012
If one truly loves her body, one does not disrespect it. No one becomes obese or maintains obesity by eating a proper diet of whole foods and pursuing a fitness oriented lifestyle. People become obese by overeating, eating non-nutritive "food products," being sedentary or, in the case of the *very rare few* with legitimate pituitary glandular disorders, avoiding proper medical diagnosis and care. Loving your body means fueling it properly, exercising it vigorously and regularly and treating it like the miraculous machine that it is...I love my body by honoring it, not by paying lip service to my physical appearance and indulging every impulse to eat tasty and convenient crap.
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urkiddinme
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08:52 AM on 06/14/2012
PS, I was obese for ten years (age 28-38) and overweight to some degree for pretty much my entire life prior to that. I also used all the fat girl excuses like "I love myself just the way I am" and "this is the weight my body wants to be" -- even after being diagnosed with metabolic syndrome at age 29 I continued to risk my health overeating, eating junk, never exercising. I finally got sick of the way I looked and felt and became HONEST with MYSELF that what I was doing was risking my health. By exercising every day and dropping a mainly-processed diet of convenient crap food for a whole foods clean diet, I lost 65+ lbs in 7 months and have maintained that loss for over four years. WITH a metabolic disorder...imagine actually taking control of your health instead of using it as an excuse. I'm not special. I just give a $h!t.
Kali03
I am an Obama supporter
06:50 PM on 06/13/2012
I don't think that Michelle Obama is a bully AT ALL and I think that this woman undermines her own position with such rhetoric.

Also...I could not care less about anyone else's weight. What chaps my hide is that we all pay for it via insurance premiums. Heavy people, with their attendant health problems, cost the system (just like smokers do). That bugs me. If I didn't have to pick up that slack in my insurance premium and I didn't have to deal with things like being squished by the enormous person next to me on the airplane, I myself would not care AT ALL about what anyone weighs.
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11:14 AM on 06/15/2012
Faved for your first sentence. I disagree about having to pay into the system to pay for overweight people, however. I recognize that come from living in a free country. I'd rather lose a little money than any amount of freedom to make my own decisions, especially about my body. That means I have to support others' rights too.
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06:14 PM on 06/13/2012
Permanent weight loss and maintaining same don't come from a diet. They can only be achieved by a total transformation of eating habits, attitude toward food & excercise programs.
I agree 100% with Kinzel's 'self love, not self loathing' sentiment. Whatever size you are, it's vital to like yourself as you are....then, if you wish to change, make sure the impetus comes from a positive attitude and a mindset promoting self care, not a 'how do others view me and my body?' one.
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09:32 PM on 06/13/2012
This subject is such a polarizing one, and inspires less-than-compassionate reactions. Which is why your comment is so refreshing! Thanks for chiming in!
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07:40 AM on 06/14/2012
I find your take on the comments so far very interesting. What I take from them is that most people here are happy (in principle) with anyone being any size they choose, but are not ok with the people who choose to be overweight not accepting the consequences of their choices and leaving the burden of increased health insurance costs for the rest of us. As the man said, no man is an island, and part of being in a community is accepting that how you live your life can (but not necessarily does) impact the life of others unfairly.
05:00 PM on 06/13/2012
People can be any size they want, they just need to deal with the consequence of being said size. I'm tired of hearing my unhealthy coworkers whine about how their knee hurts or some other ailment they have that is linked to them being obese. Their doctors have told them they need to lose weight and they still continue eating overly processed junk. It's really hard to be sympathetic and nonjudgemental to people who aren't even trying to make changes.
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12:49 PM on 06/13/2012
A person can be any size they want to be, but the second their obesity related health problems start driving up my insurance costs because they didn't have health insurance, we've got a problem. Another post on HP a couple of days ago pointed out the fact that the health of the nation is a national security issue. The whole point of the Federal Free Lunch Program was to make sure that kids had enough to eat so that they would grow up healthy enough to be able to serve in the military/national defense effort should there be a war (oh wait...we're in 2+ right now and record numbers of military applicants are being turned away because of weight issues). Democracy isn't just a contract between a citizen and his/her government, its also a contract between the citizens themselves and those who are *by their own choices* hurting the progress of the country have a serious problem with me.
11:58 AM on 06/13/2012
" The reality is that people of all sizes go on vacation, fall in love, read books, write books, have jobs, kids and families. But these things get erased when your health and size are the most important things."

Um, your health IS the most important thing. Not only for yourself but for the people who depend on you in your life. There is a clear and direct link between obesity and diabetes, as well as other health problems. The unhealthier you are, the more health care resources you consume, which drives up insurance costs for all of us.

I don't believe that Lesley has learned to love her body. I believe she has convinced herself that she has no control over her weight or what she eats. I'd tell her from experience this is not true.
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10:45 AM on 06/13/2012
"While I wholeheartedly agree that everyone deserves dignity and respect, when it comes to abandoning healthy, sustainable weight loss as a goal, well, I'm not so sure that's such a good idea."

This way of thinking is the reason why so gay people cannot married in this country. The fact is that is not the responablity of one person or several people to decide what is right for another person or other people. I was fat most of life and I can say that my life is better because I lost weight. However, I would not recommend it for every big person out there. If there are people that want to be fat and are happy to be fat, just shut your mouth for once and let them be happy.
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10:45 AM on 06/13/2012
There have been fat people since societies have managed to have a surplus of food. And there will always be fat people. It's time to end the stigmatizing and hate. I'm tired of everyone harping on each other over appearance - too fat, too skinny, too pale, too dark, too tall, too short. It's exhausting, juvenile, and futile. I don't care about any of those things. I only care about what's happening in your head, and what comes out of your mouth. Seriously. I get so disappointed in this race when I see people judging others for not conforming to whatever it is that individual feels is "right" or "normal." News flash: there is no normal. Get over it, and get over yourselves. If you want to be skinny, fantastic! If you want to be fat, fine! Stop telling others what they need to be and live your own life.