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Depression: What You Don't Know May Be Hurting You

Posted: 04/06/2012 8:45 am

My wife, Carlin, and I walked tentatively into the nicely restored old building to attend the "family weekend." Our son had been in treatment for a drug problem and we were there to learn and offer support. As part of the weekend experience, all the family members were given various questionnaires to fill out. One was a depression questionnaire. We dutifully filled it out and my wife scored "high" while I scored "low." Carlin talked to a counselor who suggested that she might want to get evaluated for depression when we returned home.

Driving back we talked and it became clear that Carlin had been feeling depressed for some time. Once home, she saw a doctor, was evaluated, and later put on anti-depressants. Her life and mine changed for the better. It was like she had come out of a fog. Her joy returned and she became much more fun to be around.

A few months into her treatment, Carlin suggested that I might be depressed as well and wanted me to see her doctor. I promptly refused. "I'm not depressed," I thought out loud. "If I were I'm sure I'd know it. I'm a therapist and I treat depression. I'd certainly recognize it in myself." She just gave me a gentle smile. "OK, it was just a suggestion," she said. "Anyway," I reminded her, "I took the depression quiz at the treatment center and I scored low." As far as I was concerned the case was closed.

However, there were some disturbing thoughts that would pop into my head. My father had suffered from manic-depressive illness all his life and had tried to commit suicide. I knew that the disease ran in families. Though I kept telling myself I was immune (God knows that therapists can be the most pig-headed people when our own mental health is questioned), still there were those doubts. Plus, I found I was often irritable, angry, preoccupied, and withdrawn. But that couldn't be depression, could it?

I convinced myself that my irritability and anger were justified. "Who wouldn't be upset with what I have to put up with?" I would call out to anyone who would listen. "I'm stressed out at work, the kids seem to go out of their way to get on my last remaining nerve, and my wife is going through menopause!"

Carlin received the brunt of my anger, which she fought to deflect. But what did she expect? If she'd just be nicer, more loving, more interested in sex, everything would be okay. It never occurred to me that my constant anger made it nearly impossible for her to be nicer, more loving, or more interested in sex.

More and more often I found I was having fantasies of running away from it all. I'd see myself getting in my car and just driving into the sunset. Other times I saw myself with another woman, someone who was kinder and gentler and understood me -- someone like Carlin used to be. Those thoughts excited and scared me. I knew we couldn't go on like this, but I had no idea what to do.

Finally, Carlin made the decision for me. "Look," she told me directly, "we're both miserable. If our marriage is going to survive, you've got to see someone." Reluctantly, I made an appointment with the doctor she had seen. He did a complete evaluation and I was sure he would say I was a normal guy who had to deal with a lot of stress in his life. Instead, he told me I was suffering from depression and would benefit from treatment. I was shocked. I thanked him and was about to leave when he said something that hit me between the eyes, "You need to be aware, Mr. Diamond, that men often experience depression differently than women, and highly successful and intellectual men, in particular, often deny that they are depressed."

When I returned home Carlin was anxious to hear the results. I told her what the doctor had said and she seemed relieved. I told her I wanted a second opinion. She blew up. "You want a second opinion? I'll give you a second opinion! You're depressed and you need treatment just like I did. It helped me and it will help you."

She turned and walked out of the room.

I didn't want to believe I was depressed. It just didn't fit with my view of myself. And it didn't fit with what I knew were the symptoms of depression. My mood wasn't depressed most of the time. I hadn't lost interest in my work or activities I loved. I slept fine and my energy was OK. I didn't feel worthless and I didn't think of killing myself.

I did decide to see another doctor. Even though I liked this one much better than the first, she told me essentially the same thing as the first one. She also explained that men who are depressed are often hypersensitive, irritable, and angry. She gave me the book, An Unquiet Mind, by world-renowned psychologist, Kay Redfield Jamison. In that book, Jamison described depression in a way that cut to my core:

You're irritable and paranoid and humorless and lifeless and critical and demanding, and no reassurance is ever enough. You're frightened, and you're frightening, and 'you're not at all like yourself but will be soon,' but you know you won't.

I could no longer deny the truth. I was dealing with depression. I agreed to begin therapy as well as try medications. I found that my life turned around. I wasn't so hypersensitive. Little things didn't bother me as much. I wasn't so reactive and I felt less irritable. As Carlin described it, "You used to look at me in a way that chilled me. Your eyes were narrow and beady. Now when you look at me I feel your love. It's wonderful."

Things have continued to improve for us. I know there are millions of other men out there who are depressed, but don't know it. I developed a questionnaire that seemed to get at the irritability that is at the core of the kind of depression that many men experience. If there is anyone who would like to take it you can do so at www.IMSquiz.com.

 
 
 

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02:38 PM on 04/18/2012
But what if you're a woman and your depression manifests itself this way -- the anger, the irritability, the impatience? Is that normal? Or usual? Should I receive different treatment (treatment in the sense of therapy + meds) than what's typically prescribed for a woman?
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Jed Diamond
author, MenAlive: Stop Killer Stress
09:54 AM on 04/10/2012
I appreciate your feedback. One of the problems in treating depression is getting clear about what it is. In his excellent book, The Noonday Demon: An Atlas of Depression (yes, It's quite comprehensive, author Andrew Solomon says, "Depression is a flaw in love. To be creatures who love, we must be creatures who can despair at what we lose, and depression is the mechanism of that despair." What do you think? Is there a relation between depression and loss of love? Could it be that we need more nurture, care, and friendship, rather than pills?
08:22 PM on 04/08/2012
I have read many of the comments on this subject. It only goes to show that the ignorance about depression and mental illness overall is still out there.

There is something called the blues which many people go through at difficult times of their lives.

Then there are those that are living with a far deeper chemical issue that makes survival impossible. I saw a response on here that asked what did people do before medications existed for depression. I think I am comfortable saying there was a high incidence of suicide.

I have lived (I refuse to say suffered) with mental illness all of my life. It is extremely difficult to do. I am in the black hole right now. Am trying to get in to see someone as perhaps the meds I am on are no longer working.

During the holidays, I get really down. I don't go running to a doctor to change meds then. I know that the holidays are a tough time and that my blues are normal.

Bottom line is, no one is exactly like someone else. Depression is not the same in anyone. But to make blanket statements that all you need is a positive attitude and everything will be okay is extremely out of line. People who are depressed who don't want to be on meds will read or hear those statements and just try and change their thinking. That response could kill them.
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Jed Diamond
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08:52 PM on 04/08/2012
I agree that each of us have to find what works. I've used medications and found them helpful and stopped and used other approaches. Bottom line, we need to know we're not alone and find the support that works for us.
10:23 PM on 04/08/2012
The article and your comment reminded me of experiences I have had with depression. I've had all the meds and other treatments and I am better, though not great. As with you, I've heard many people suggest that I need to change my routine and choose to be more positive. As a result, with those I don't see often, I've learned to put on a happy face for them for a couple of hours and have become pretty good at it although I will feel pretty exhausted afterward. With close family and friends I've been open about things. Life goes on and I am up to getting through the day but not as well as some people........those dreaded happy ones. Best wishes to you!
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06:37 PM on 04/08/2012
I think alot of depression comes from the genes in your family. My Grandfather hung himself. My father killed himself and my mother spent many days in bed depressed. So yeah I've suffered from depression and I got help and feel much better now. My sister has suffered from depression for many years.
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Jed Diamond
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08:54 PM on 04/08/2012
There certainly is a genetic component and it can run in families, as it has in yours, and also in mine. Other issues such as early trauma (both big and small) can impact whether and how severe our depression is.
05:31 PM on 04/08/2012
Sounds juist like the Obama adm.
08:38 PM on 04/08/2012
Can you please clarify how this statement is applicable to this article?
05:31 PM on 04/08/2012
I'm depressed and don't care
04:06 PM on 04/08/2012
The wife gave him a great second opinion.

Tomario
04:00 PM on 04/08/2012
A pill can't be the best option. What did people do when there was no pill to take?
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Jed Diamond
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08:55 PM on 04/08/2012
Before meds, some people got through depression using other methods. Some died. Its good now that we have options. For some meds can be lifesavers. For others, they interfere with getting to the root of the problem.
03:07 PM on 04/08/2012
If you are sick, you can take a drug to get better - it's the same with depression...it's a sickness and can be helped with drugs. My husband wasn't bad, just really irritable all the time - with me and with our children. I told him it would not continue this way and he agreed to get help. It's made a world of difference..don't wait - go see someone!
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Jed Diamond
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08:56 PM on 04/08/2012
Good recommendation. For many men, depression manifests itself as irritability, anger, and "acting out." Reaching out can be lifesaving and often it takes the loving push from a woman to get us moving in the right direction.
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02:45 PM on 04/08/2012
After years on SSRIs, I've come to realize that the real reason for depression is that life basically sucks. When you know what you have to do to end the suffering, things are a lot simpler.
02:08 PM on 04/08/2012
Depression could be a side effect of a dynamic in one's life that isn't working. Family addiction and dysfunction in many forms is at the root of a lot of people's mental illnesses. We do not have to be the addicted one to suffer consequences of a family member's addiction or dysfunction. The dynamic is passed down through generations. We can learn to deal with these dysfunctions and addictions through a variety of 12 step programs if other therapies are not helping or aren't helping enough.
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02:04 PM on 04/08/2012
This article described my Dad (RIP, Dad) perfectly...unfortunately, he never did get help.

I'm susceptible to depression as well, though I'm trying to fight it via exercise and positive thinking techniques because I really don't want to go on meds if I can avoid it. But I know others who swear by their anti depressants, so I don't pass judgement on those who do take a prescription.

Good luck to anyone who is going through this.
05:06 PM on 04/08/2012
Not to bother you but I also have fought with depression most of my life. Mainly because life has been difficult for me. I just wanted you to know that when I took prozac, I only had to take it for less than six months. It broke the cycle of being depressed and did so for many years. I knew when I was not reacting to anything, I quit. The doctor said I just knew I did not need them any longer. This is only me and I should, could, would never tell another what it will be for them. I hope the best for you for I know suffering.
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Jed Diamond
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09:00 PM on 04/08/2012
I've definitely found that understanding how many men's experience of depression differs from women's can help guide our path in getting the help we need. Too many men don't get help because we resist and those around us don't recognize or respond compassionately to our feelings of hopelessness.
12:55 PM on 04/08/2012
There are certainly some people who have a chemical imbalance that causes depression but they are in the minority. We have become a society that wants a pll to cure everything. We as a society are totally overmedicated.You lose your job your spouse your house of course you will be depressed but popping a pill will not get any of it back. Getting out there and taking chances and doing things will get you there. Doctors and pharmecutecal companies would like everyone to be on some kind of medication thats what keeps them rich.
03:47 PM on 04/08/2012
Thank you for your comment. I can't agree more. Sometimes the challenges we face are there for a reason usually to help us grow or evolve. A pill dulls the mind
05:13 PM on 04/08/2012
Chemical imbalance long term is not that common. Overwhelming sadness is real and dangerous. When you write about a society wanting a pill for everything makes me think you have never suffered with depression. Many will not even tell others because others do not understand and it can carry the stigma of weakness, being a whiner or a cry baby. I watched Oprah on her show and she did not have a clue why people have depression. She is one of the lucky ones but her actions may have made people not understand it. I love Oprah BUT....
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12:22 PM on 04/08/2012
For those who would find solace in this article I say good for you. If it works for you fine-whatever works. However, I believe that much of what I have seen over the years of interacting with people showed me that a person has to learn to Carry Their Own Water. Granted, it's not easy to do for most and nearly impossible for some. But, I've had friends that would call their "therapist" over every little thing-work themselves into a state of anxiety by never even attempting to learn how to relax-and especially remaining cool under fire. It takes time and that is for sure, but in my view, once a person has reached middle age and beyond and have seen therapists for a majority of their life and still depend on them-than it's as bad a problem as being hooked in the medication they give that person in my view. My concerns are for the younger generation of today that are coming back from a war-those who suffer from PTSD-note that it means Stress Disorder and Not Depression. That is what I consider real and a problem that Really needs to be addressed today in serious way. Again, I'm not putting down or demeaning people who really believe they cannot function if they don't see a "therapist"-All I'm suggesting is that a crutch like that lasting long will do one No Good-unless he or she learns to Carry Their Own Water.
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09:06 PM on 04/08/2012
I'm with you on both counts. We all need to be responsible for our own lives and "carry our own water." Sometimes we need some help and support to do that. For me, medications were helpful for a time, so was psychotherapy. But fortunately I had a doctor who very much supported my efforts to get off meds as soon as I could and to develop my own healing efforts to deal with the stresses of life. I, too, am concerned with stress and those who suffer from PTSD. Fortunately there are new techniques using such energy psychology techniques as Emotional Freedom Techniques or EFT and have proven to be effective.
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09:55 PM on 04/08/2012
Excellent post and congratulations to you! You were indeed fortunate that you found a therapist that supported your efforts to get off the meds as soon as you could. I am also glad that you are aware and support the many people who have PTSD-especially our Veterans returning home from a long war-or anyone who suffers from it for that matter. Thank you for sharing the new techniques on EFT in dealing with PTSD. The more we all know about combating PTSD-the better off we all are as a society.
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Joyce A King
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11:00 AM on 04/08/2012
After my Mom passed last year, I thought I was just grieving. It wasn't until I read an article about depression that I realized I was suffering from it. It's been almost a year with her gone, and I'm still not dealing very well with it. I have good days and bad days, but I refuse to let it beat me. My sister told me to see a doctor and get some pills, they worked great for her. I do not want to rely on a pill for my well-being. I know for some people they are life savers, but I don't want to depend on pills. I know I need to see a therapist, talk through my grief, and I will, eventually. This article might help all the people out there like me, who never even realized it was depression they were experiencing. I am glad you wrote it. It shows me that depression can strike anyone, not just people who are going through hardships. But the real healing starts with us. We have to want to change it, and be willing to work for that, instead of choosing to wallow in it and blame our failures on it.
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invmartyc
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12:35 PM on 04/08/2012
Joyce, I have been the same way over the lose of my wife nearly two years ago. We were together for 36 years and she suddenly died of cancer. The last two years have been rough, with crushing lows. It is hard to tell someoe how to fix things because you are the only one who can. Will medications and a therepist make things better? I cannot say yes or no, but one I can say, they can't hurt!

Good luck, make your mother proud, live life and be happy, it is what she would have wanted.
04:04 PM on 04/08/2012
Meds do hurt..research them if you don't believe me.
Kali03
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05:43 AM on 04/09/2012
@invmartyc--I'm so sorry for your loss, sir. I hope that your loving memories bring you comfort, and that as time goes by your suffering eases.

Namaste~~
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Jed Diamond
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09:09 PM on 04/08/2012
We all go through grief when we experience a loss and it can move into depression for those who are susceptible. Its good to reach out for help and work through the issues, whether with a therapist or with friends and family. I'm glad you're doing the work you need to do.