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Jeff Danziger

Jeff Danziger

Posted: May 26, 2010 04:42 PM

Jet v. Donkey Bomb

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01:02 PM on 06/08/2010
Israel transfers about 15,000 tons of supplies and humanitarian aid every week to the people of Gaza.Lawyers representing the family of Gilad Shalit, the kidnapped Israeli soldier held in isolation, had asked the protestors to take aid for him, they refused.
Israel offered the ship to dock in Ashdod port and they would transfer the aid to Gaza. This offer was made again and again - they refused.Israel has said that it will deliver any humanitarian aid that was in the boats to Gaza, as it does daily. Israel left Gaza in hopes of peace in 2005 and in return received more than 10,000 rockets and terrorist attacks. Israel has sought peace and compromise with its neighbors for all of its 62 years and it will continue to do so.
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jasongrundy
Integrity is how you behave when no one is looking
11:38 AM on 05/27/2010
How about a cartoon of "how bush would respond" to the gulf oil leak?
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01:36 PM on 05/27/2010
Bomb dolphins?
03:25 AM on 05/28/2010
That would have been Cheney's idea .......... fanned
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Richard Pearce
Atheistic-agnostic Canadian polymath
02:41 PM on 05/27/2010
A better one on the subject is easier to describe.

A cartoon of the Gulf, with the oil slick, but the source of the slick is a giant teabag with the slogan 'government bad, private enterprise good' on its tag.
11:25 AM on 05/27/2010
Here we go again! Israel gives and gives and provides for the residents in Gaza:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/137726
and gets bashed. Where's PETA about the donkey?
Danzinger, you distorted the facts of the day - in direct violation of your journalistic ethics pledge.

The linked article mentions that Gaza has a new Olympic swimming pool and fancy restaurants that journalists DON'T report about - also a direct violation of the journalistic ethics code.
But here's the report on it from the Maan News Agency:
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=285242
and the supplies:
scroll down here: http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/mideastdispatches/archives/000973.html
and the restaurant: http://www.rootsclub.ps/index.php

Many prominent Western news media are deliberately misleading global audiences and systematically creating the false impression that people are somehow starving in Gaza, and that it is all Israel’s fault. It's time to wake up... and live up to the code.
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Cynthia Rays
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12:16 PM on 05/27/2010
"Israel gives and gives". What is this, the mom trying to make you feel guilty? What are they giving? Read" Haaretz", they are taking land, taking lives, and taking opportunities. Israel bombed the water treatment plant and sewage treatment plant in Gaza.
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12:26 PM on 05/27/2010
Indeed I love the way that it gives the impression that all the aid actually comes from Israeli sources rather than the reality which is that it comes from other bodies outside Israel but the Israelis force them to ship all the goods through Israel.
At the same time of course stopping a totally random selection of those goods like shoes and spices, a list that constantly changes forcing many items to either be stored in Israeli warehouses at great expense some of them spoiling in the process and banning the export of goods from Gaza to ensure that the population remain dependent on foreign aid.
The Israeli authorities specifically state that they try to maintain the food entering at just above starvation levels for the population. They do actually state that in their own websites, it's not a secret. The fact that the Gaza population manage to smuggle some goods in doesn't mean that the Israelis are 'providing' any manna to them, in fact they provide next to nothing they allow the bare minimum to pass through them in.
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Json
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11:09 AM on 05/27/2010
The problem with this cartoon is that it really requires some context.
Like the simple "donkey bomb" was loaded with 400lbs of explosives.
Or that the Israeli strike on Gaza was to destroy tunnels that Hamas uses to smuggle weapons and that no one was killed by the strike.
Or that the Gaza strike wasn't in retaliation for just this donkey attack. There have been mortars and rockets coming in from Gaza almost every day this week.
Tony Andrews
Ὁ βίος βραχύς, ἡ δὲ τέχν
02:41 PM on 05/27/2010
The attack was in direct response to the "donkey bomb" (which detonated inside Gaza) a a few mortars that landed in Israeli territory - doing NO damage.

The attack targetted a training area and Gaza airport (why? it is so destroyed as to be unusable already) and was not aimed at any tunnels.

No one was killed. 15 people were injured.
02:12 AM on 05/28/2010
Neither the donkey or the mortars did no harm, you goat.
BUT THEY WERE MEANT TO.
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Richard Pearce
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02:48 PM on 05/27/2010
I notice you didn't mention the Israeli fire that those rockets and mortars are a response to.

2 invasions

Farmers and children being used as target practice,

And of course the continuing long slow starvation of the Gazans.

http://www.pchrgaza.org/portal/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6702:weekly-report-on-israeli-human-rights-violations-in-the-occupied-palestinian-territory-20-26-may-2010&catid=84:weekly-2009&Itemid=183

(and if you like, you can go back, week by week, to before the first rockets flew out of Gaza, and see what fire was coming in)
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10:17 AM on 05/27/2010
nice cartoon

here's a couple of HP topics due this weekend I'm waiting for -

1- 'the Berlin Airlift to Gaza' /Freedom Flotilla- arriving off Gaza this weekend. The IDF says it will turn it away like they turned away Chomsky

2- The Fixer Rahm Emmanuel trying to reconcile Netanyahu and Obama this weekend. I'm sure we're all waiting with anxiously for this fixer to get us foursquare behind the Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestine again, as well as the coming attack on Iran, after all the misunderstandings of the last few months
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10:48 AM on 05/27/2010
The Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestine? umm...the Palestinian economy is booming, their population is increasing rapidly...that is not exactly " ethnic cleansing"...perhaps you should learn the term you are using before ignortantly throwing it around. If you think its a " freedom flotilla" going to Gaza, you are naive beyond belief...I bet you also think Hamas is a liberal freedoming loving movement that sings kumbaya and listens to Phish songs, right?
10:59 AM on 05/27/2010
Please Jeremy, do you feel petty for the Palestinians? Is the economy in great shape? You are just trowing spin to a fundamental question, the freedom of people irrespective of their economical status. Please stop the BS.
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lthuedk 1
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11:13 AM on 05/27/2010
Read the Goldstone report and quiet yourself down. Make no mistake: It is ethnic cleansing and apartheid by any measure.

The right wing zealots of the Likud are on trial. It's time to realize the face of theofascism and do something about it. And no, I'm not an anti-Semite and support Israel.

This is a matter for the Israelis to hammer out if, and only if, theirs is a true democracy and not a theocracy overrun by madness. The Liberal voices of Israel are already being oppressed by Netanyahu's right wing machine, moving the nation in the direction of permanent dictatorship.
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09:48 AM on 05/27/2010
Can we have a cartoon of "You mess with the bull, you get the horns"?
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09:57 AM on 05/27/2010
With a picture of a matador being prodded into the ring at the end of IDF spears to make it a serious analogy?
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CigarGod
What is your process?
10:00 AM on 05/27/2010
That would not justify Israeli's position any more than the donkey/f-16.
09:43 AM on 05/27/2010
This is always the argument that's made, but always wrong in its conclusion. The problem is, what is a "proportional response"? When you're attacked by those with lesser weaponry, how does one respond? Just sit and take it. We see how that went with our response to 9/11, and although many question Iraq (as do I), nobody questioned bombing Afghanistan for housing Al Qaeda camps.

Unless you'd like Israel to start loading their own camels or donkeys with bombs, when they get attacked, they will defend themselves, as well they should.
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09:59 AM on 05/27/2010
You start by not ignoring the initial attack which in this case would be the blockade on Gaza.

Negotiations might help as well of course but that's another route the Israeli State run from at every opportunity.
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10:10 AM on 05/27/2010
The problem with your reasoning is, the rockets and bombs didn't begin because of the blockade..the blockade was begun in response to rocket attacks and the like. When Hamas learns to put their own people ahead of their own idealogical pursuits of grandiose designs, than real peace will come. Egypt understands this as well, with their own blockade..they see the threat Hamas poses and has posed to the region.
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Cynthia Rays
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12:11 PM on 05/27/2010
" nobody questioned bombing Afghanistan for housing Al Qaeda camps". where do you get that? Obviously the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are not working. We are killing hundreds of civilians. Now we asre killing them in Pakistan. Our economy is shot. How about if Israel stopped the blockade of Gaza and allowed Palestinians in the West Bank and Israel to have the same rights as Israelis? Where did Lieberman come from? yet he has the right to discuss "transfer".
09:35 AM on 05/27/2010
Great cartoon even if I'm pro Israel. But does the carrier, whether a Donkey, aircraft or a Human matter if all goes well for the intention it was set up for? Think about this donkey wandering into a Israeli village, probably what it was suppose to happen. Who would come out and be excited about the animal but CHILDREN. If it went off would it have been so funny or are they Jews so it doesn't matter.
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10:25 AM on 05/27/2010
Exactly. At the end of the day, the Israeli planes target a Hamas base and the Palestinian mortars targeted civilians. The morality of an action is judged by the intention, not the results.
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01:39 PM on 05/27/2010
If you carry out an action intending a specific result and it goes awry then you can say that you didn't intend to do that. If you then repeat the same action with the same results hundreds of times you don't get to carry on using the same excuse as the results become predictable.
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Richard Pearce
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02:54 PM on 05/27/2010
Well, actually, the Palestinian mortars and rockets target Israeli military bases (you do know there are a lot of them all over the Negev) but their misses are portrayed as deliberate attacks on civilians, while when Israel hits civilians it is always portrayed as a miss during an attack on a legitimate target.
02:20 AM on 05/27/2010
The Palestinians have a WMD conundrum ......... Where's My Donkey ?
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Kamen Gullberg
04:56 AM on 05/27/2010
That's actually funnier then the cartoon, good one.
02:08 AM on 05/29/2010
I agree...very funny. Leaves the cartoon for dead...rather like the poor donkey.
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RobertFromMN
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02:02 AM on 05/27/2010
Lesson one: Set realistic goals.
Never mind the Israelis and the Palestinians. Someone save that poor donkey!
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Richard Pearce
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01:43 AM on 05/27/2010
Another cartoon that tells the story a little better.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Israeli_Apartheid_Week_2009_poster.jpg
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01:34 AM on 05/27/2010
"Either mankind will put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind."
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persianadvocate
12:06 AM on 05/27/2010
The desperation of an occupied people. That's a tragedy weaved into poetry by Jeff Danziger right here.
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ipolitics123
What an excellent day for an exorcism.
10:39 PM on 05/26/2010
Just curious: Does the author of this cartoon think that people killed by a "donkey bomb" are any less dead than people killed by a missile?
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skialethia
αω vs military might
11:35 PM on 05/26/2010
When people are fighting for their freedom they will use whatever they can get their hands on to be free. Israel is suppressing the rights of Palestinians with 500 lb bombs and killing civilians indiscriminately.
10:25 AM on 05/27/2010
And you know the IDF is killing civilians indiscriminately, how? Do you think, if a person carrying a bomb into the middle of a crowded market place, that he/it kills indiscriminately?
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11:46 PM on 05/26/2010
Because he is a child.
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skialethia
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12:11 AM on 05/27/2010
Look who's talking!
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Carl Caroli
Give peace a chance
08:00 PM on 05/26/2010
Mankind is incapable of peace. Evolution dictates that we will ultimately destroy ourselves unless we force a social evolution and outlaw war. I'm not holding my breath.
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SonOfUgh
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08:39 PM on 05/26/2010
War was outlawed. Someone forgot to tell Cheney.
10:29 AM on 05/27/2010
How did Cheney get into this string???
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waldopepper
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12:07 AM on 05/27/2010
If that attitude prevailed then we would still be living in trees. "Man will never fly." - etc. I admit it is hard and so far I would say that it is impossible. Yet the goal of peace remains a fight that is worthy. If we agree with the premise that it is impossible. Then we might as well sit in a corner and give up on all our goals.

Worse still this attitude may actually promote a war. "There will always be war. Lets have one."