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When Faith Trumps Reason: the Curse of Scientific Illiteracy

Posted: 05/26/10 11:44 AM ET

The State Board of Education (SBOE) in Texas has jumped into the abyss of the absurd, modifying school textbooks with an ideology so extreme as to be nearly beyond comprehension to any rational mind. Just as the twisted metal of a fatal plane crash is the focus of investigation to determine what went wrong, so too must the carnage from the SBOE be examined to understand how reason died in the fiery wreckage of conservative extremism.

With extensive news coverage of the SBOE many Americans now know the basic story. The SBOE adopted a curriculum for social sciences and history that questions the separation of church and state in the erroneous belief that we are a Christian nation. Conservatives on the board were successful in relabeling the United States a "constitutional republic" instead of a democracy; emphasizing the Christian influence on our founders, and rejecting the widely accepted classification of historic periods of BCE (before current era) and CE (current era) in favor of the old style of BC (before Christ) and AD (anno domini - year of our Lord).

The New Deal was removed from a timeline of significant historical events, because Franklin D. Roosevelt's efforts were socialistic. Reagan's invasion of Granada in 1983 was described instead as a "rescue." Reagan himself is lauded only in terms of his "role in restoring national confidence, such as Reagonomics and Peace with Strength." No mention of Iran-Contra. Nixon is noted only for his "role in normalizing relations with China and the policy of détente." Watergate never happened. Illustrations to teach women how to do self-breast exams were removed. A picture of a business woman holding a briefcase was pulled and replaced with a mother baking a cake.

The SBOE tried but failed to exclude Thomas Jefferson from our history books because of his liberal views on government and religion. In arguing to delete Cesar Chavez, Irma Rangel (first Hispanic woman elected to the state legislature) and Thurgood Marshall from our history, Texas Governor Rick Perry said in place of references to these figures from our past we should instead add language to reveal "the motivational role of the Bible and the Christian faith played in the settling of the original colonies."

While garnering most of the attention, these theocratic distortions of history are not isolated acts of insanity. In earlier rounds of editing in May 2009, the SBOE adopted badly watered down language on evolution that gives equivalency to Darwin's theory and Intelligent Design as "two sides" of the story to be evaluated equally. That is because "evolution is hooey" according to Board member Don McLeroy. This is the same Board member who proudly noted that he evaluates textbooks by determining "how they cover Christianity and Israel. Then I see how they treat Ronald Reagan - he needs to get credit for saving the world from communism and for the good economy over the last twenty years because he lowered taxes." This would explain another of his agenda items: to rehabilitate Joseph McCarthy.

How did we arrive at this tragic point where reason and fact are buried so completely by an avalanche of utter nonsense? The answer lies in the sad observation that religion has corrupted our political discourse, and a growing number of Americans can no longer distinguish between faith, fiction and fact, a consequence of scientific illiteracy that seems to grow worse with each generation. The problem is not only that facts from science are ignored, but so too is the method by which scientists search for objective truth. With little understanding of how scientists tease truth from the natural world, how data are gathered and analyzed, or how hypotheses are supported or disproven, the public has few tools to evaluate the validity of competing claims - in any area of public discourse not just those relating strictly to issues of science. Consequently, faith and belief have come to substitute for objective truth and verifiable facts are no more influential than the musings of any madman.

When science or at least the logic used in science is rejected anybody can claim anything. Proof is only demanded if a claim is unaligned with ideology (evolution, climate change, Obama's place of birth), but the idea of providing proof for claims consistent with conservative ideals is rejected as liberal elitism (we are a Christian nation, guns make us safer, missile defense works, god exists).

Imagine a Christian and a goldsmith standing around a five-foot-tall Star of David that the artisan just completed on commission from a local temple. The goldsmith notes correctly that the structure is made of solid gold that he himself shaped into the symbol of Judaism. This is a fact not open to debate or modification by ideology. Gold is gold. But the Christian claims that god would never allow any symbol other than a cross to be made of gold, so therefore the Star of David must instead be made of wood painted the color of gold. The Christian simply created a new reality by fiat, offering no proof of his claim. So to counter this nonsense the Goldsmith in exasperation takes a few scrapings from the structure and sends them to a lab for analysis. The results are conclusive - the star is made of pure gold atoms. But the result is immediately rejected by the Christian on the basis that scientists are biased, labs are unreliable, and in fact we do not really know anything about atoms because we cannot see them with our own eyes. No matter how much evidence to the contrary is offered, the Christian will believe the structure to be wooden, and no amount of data will persuade him otherwise.

Without science reality is an option to be rejected whenever the real world gives us inconvenient truths. In this frightening environment in which fiction becomes fact, the conclusions from years of careful research, scrutinized by competing scientists and published in peer reviewed journals now carry no more weight with the public than the random thoughts of a bloated pundit. Talking heads with no training now have the same authority as highly qualified experts. So global warming is dismissed as a liberal hoax in spite of a preponderance of scientific evidence to the contrary. Climate and weather are mistakenly thought to be the same. A recent article in Science documenting reptile extinctions due to climate change is ignored by the press. When presented with evidence, skeptics selectively demand more "proof" without understanding what that concept means in scientific inquiry.

Yet when we are not discussing climate change, the public demands no proof at all before reaching a firm conclusion, the flipside consequence of misunderstanding the scientific method. Vaccines offer an unfortunate case history. We believe, with no evidence other than from a small study never replicated, that vaccines cause autism. Because of medical illiteracy and misplaced religious zeal, some parents are, in a display of dangerous ignorance, forcing school boards across the country to accept students with no vaccination history. Rush Limbaugh exhorts his listeners to eschew the H1N1 vaccine. All this when in reality vaccines are one of the greatest achievements of modern medicine, saving hundreds of millions of lives and improving the quality of life for countless others.

False conclusions about vaccines are only the tip of the iceberg. In any society dominated by religion and religious morality, as we now are, technology often proceeds at a pace greater than society's ability to address the associated moral dilemmas. The issue of stem cell research offers a prime example. Religious bias and scientific illiteracy combined to restrict a technology with extraordinary potential for good, with little associated risk. Under George Bush we lost eight years for nothing. With no distinction between fact and fiction the public is unable to filter exaggerated claims by environmental groups (Alar in apples) from legitimate concerns (loss of biological diversity). People opposed to irradiated food ignore the existence of more than 50 known strains of E. coli that can cause bloody diarrhea, kidney failure, and death. This is a typical case of poor risk-benefit analysis. People are duped by claims of harmful emissions from cell phones. Life-saving diagnostic x-rays are neglected from fear of radiation, and vulnerable people are persuaded to rely on crystals and astrology for guidance.

And we still debate evolution (but never the Theory of Relativity). Evolution is one of the most successful, thoroughly documented scientific discoveries in human history. We can see evolution in a Petri dish. Evolution has been validated across multiple fields of anthropology, geology, genetics, embryology, bacteriology, virology, and biogeography. However, more than 75 years after the trial of State of Tennessee v John Scopes and despite incredible advances in biology, many public school boards strive to eliminate the teaching of evolution from the curriculum. SBOE succeeded. If a scientific discovery as important, mainstream, and established as evolution can be a source of controversy for school curricula, society is extraordinarily vulnerable to a general decline in all areas of public debate. Without a shared reality we have no basis for discussion. What's next, removing Thomas Jefferson from our history books because he promoted the scientific method or argued that religion should play no role in government?

Teaching evolution is equal to teaching that the Earth is a sphere or that the sun is the center of our solar system or that atoms are the basic building blocks of matter or that DNA is genetic material. All are established facts. Some may still believe that the sun revolves around the Earth as the Bible claims, but including such an idea in a school curriculum is unacceptable. Teaching creation according to Genesis also would require the science curriculum in public schools to include the notion that a great fish swallowed Jonah, that Joshua made the sun stand still, that Noah, at the advanced age of 600 years old, put a breeding pair of every animal species on a boat, and that the Earth was created in six days, along with a host of other literal interpretations of the Bible.

Scientific illiteracy is now pervasive and in this expanding environment of ignorance we breed nightmare scenarios like the SBOE. By severing all ties to objective truth, the SBOE is unfettered from the annoying constraint of reality. Anything goes. Anything is true as long as you believe it to be so. Global warming is a joke, evolution a liberal conceit, Thomas Jefferson a communist. No boundaries exist, only the limits of our own wild imaginations. We have no means to reign in the SBOE when their claims, no matter how outrageous, go unchallenged, because fact and fiction carry equal weight. The Star of David is made of wood because we say it is, gold atoms be damned.

Steeped in the wasteland of scientific illiteracy we descend ever further toward a theocracy, in danger of becoming the Iran of the West, or a bad copy of the former Soviet Union. Under the communist dictatorship children were taught that Stalin was a hero and that capitalism was a great evil, or that Russia invented the telephone and airplane, with no regard to the truth. We are about to make the same mistake in twisting history to indoctrinate our children. The SBOE seeks to perpetuate that cycle of ignorance by corrupting the education of our children, impairing their ability to think logically, and brainwashing them with medieval myths. The SBOE is a cabal of Christian soldiers hell bent on launching a new Crusade. Our children deserve better. Our only hope for the future is to stop the zealots before we lose another generation. The upcoming election in November could not be more critical.

Local politics is not glamorous but has never been more important. What happens to the SBOE impacts the entire country. Fortunately for us in Texas, and for the nation, we have two candidates for the SBOE, Rebecca Bell-Meterau and Judy Jennings, who would restore sanity to the school board and integrity to the textbook selection process. With their election we can reclaim our right to have reason and truth serve as the foundation for public discourse. We can reclaim history as an objective view of the past, not a sanitized fantasy that would do an Imam proud. We can restore our reliance on science to help us understand the physical and natural world. We can, if we muster the will, witness the triumph of fact and reason over faith and fantasy.


Jeff Schweitzer is a scientist, former White House senior policy analyst and author of, Beyond Cosmic Dice: Moral Life in a Random World (Jacquie Jordan, Inc)(http://www.tinyurl.com/CosmicDice). Follow Jeff Schweitzer on Facebook.

 
 
 

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jack27
Freethinker
09:29 AM on 07/24/2010
Fine piece of writing, Dr. Schweitzer. At no time in our history has such clear thinking been so needed.
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dugmaze
Any man's death diminishes me
09:11 AM on 06/13/2010
"Under George Bush we lost eight years for nothing."

Yet you rely in the science of this time period for your proof that vaccines can't cause autism. Do you ignore the letters sent by scientists that were fired from the CDC concerning study safety? Do you ignore James Hansen when he tried to speak out against the consservative push to suppress science at NASA? Do you ignore the firing of NOAA?

But you blindly trust the same far right conservative, anti-science corporatists for vaccine safety? NIce.
06:29 AM on 06/03/2010
This is fun. I am just watching and taking it all in. We need to share more open thoughts and ideas with one another in order to balance the horrible damage that has been perpetrated against humanity in the name of religion since our species began. Some of these comments are well thought out and so interesting. I actually think that being open and honest about our lack of belief in religion and a god figure gives permission for folks to break away form the ridiculous traditions of the past and actually think beyond the indoctrination of our ancestors. Well done..
02:13 PM on 06/03/2010
I find it interesting that the atheists here do not have any counter arguments to my points yet will continue to hold onto their unobjective beliefs..(watch).

And I find it interesting when people blame religion for the atrocities that man chooses to make himself. If Christians decide to kill in the "name" of their religion.. they are not following Christian teachings.. it is not the fault of Christianity but the fault of the individual who is NOT following Jesus' teachings. And those "religions" (cults) that do promote violence... those were created by men and have NOTHING to do with Christianity.

On the whole, religion promotes peace. There are obvious exceptions but that doesn't justify eliminating religion all together. To suggest that is extremely biased against something that they personally don't want to accept... that they are created beings and not in control.
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Anna Nicole Dahmer
Lie like that & you won't go to heaven
07:37 PM on 06/03/2010
i find it interesting that you are always accusing athiests for not having counter arguments, yet you have yet to answer for your statement that:
" the overwhelming majority of historians believe that jesus existed"

i've asked you once and now twice. prove it..
rather bold of you to be so condeming of others for not answering your points, when you obviously won't verify your FALSE statement.

and i find this statement of your ridiculous:
"And I find it interesting when people blame religion for the atrocities that man chooses to make himself."

as this is a practice you engage in every day with islam. don't deny it. i have the proof.

see, no one wants to debate someone so "willfully ignorant" and "obviously deceitful".
07:06 AM on 06/05/2010
I assume that as a Christian you believe that the Bible is the word of God.The Bible has many passages that urge men to kill in the name of God. If there was a God......Why then are there so many questions left open to humanity? God should be absolute and without question. No one should have ever suffered under the word of god or because of the religious teachings.. No one should ever wonder why we are here because all those answers should be obvious and understandable to every man. If god is true, the horrible history of oppression ,torture and genocide would never have happened.Therefore I know there is no God. I do understand why people need to hand over a portion of their life to a mysterious force when they are weak or in distress though. If religion gets you through the day, then I want you to have the comfort that your superstitions provide. Just do not impose it on the rest of us by influencing governments and army's against one another. Pay your taxes like everyone else and do not adjust our text books to reflect your beliefs so that the next generation is held hostage by this nonsense.
Do you really need religion to be kind to your fellow humans? Look inside yourself and be confident that you can be the person you know you want to be without religion.
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Anna Nicole Dahmer
Lie like that & you won't go to heaven
07:42 PM on 06/03/2010
i agree, this is fun. fanned.
07:38 PM on 05/31/2010
Hi, bsmithslo! You seem to say that this phrase in the Declaration of Independence is a religious absolute - "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal."

The original draft by Jefferson read “sacred and undeniable,” and was changed to its current reading on a suggestion by Benjamin Franklin.

Jefferson’s original wording could have painted the picture that the equality of humankind and the main idea behind our republic are rooted in religion. The idea of “self-evident truths” is grounded in the analytic empiricism of Franklin’s friend David Hume.

Franklin boldly scratched out the word “sacred” and wrote “self-evident” http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/images/declarationdraft_large.jpg

When he did that he pulled the Declaration and our nation away from world of religion and directed it to the world of analytic empiricism and rationalism of the Enlightenment.
05:03 PM on 05/31/2010
Hi, bsmithslo! I tried to ask you a question about something you said earlier, but I guess it just got lost in all the other comments. I said, "Hi, I'm going to be a high school junior in the fall. I love this kind of stuff - philosophy and religion! I just took a semester class in a survey of philosophy. I liked reading about Locke, Berkley and Hume. How is that one guy's understanding of Hume is wrong?" I think his name is Jeff Schweitzer.
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Jeff Schweitzer
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10:33 PM on 05/31/2010
I doubt it seriously; I have studied Hume and read virtually everything he has written; perhaps your interpretation of his work is wrong. Mine is based on the man's actual words.
10:42 AM on 06/01/2010
Hi, Jeff Schweitzer!

Please don't think that I believe you misunderstand Hume. I was asking bsmithslo to explain why "he" thinks you misunderstand Hume - he makes a claim against you but doesn't back it up. I really believe that Hume's analytical empiricism had a huge effect on Benjamin Franklin, who in turn, had such a huge effect on Thomas Jefferson that Jefferson changed the wording of the Declaration of Independence from "We hold these truths to be sacred and undeniable, that all men are created equal..." to "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal..."

bsmithslo seems to say that the "all men are created equal" phrase is a religious statement "an absolute." But I think Hume and other Enlightenment philosophers had more of a "say" in the Declaration than the Bible, or religious thinking did.

Sure, I'm only sixteen, only had a one semester class in philosophy at school and am born-again. But that doesn't mean I swallow everything I hear "hook, line and sinker." I know I am not like most kids. My teachers usually can't stand me because I question almost everything they say. My pastor really doesn't like me all that much, either. I really don't care just as long as they're fair. My family likes me and I like myself, too. All I am asking Mr. Schweitzer is that you try to keep an open mind about me. Thanks!
01:59 PM on 05/31/2010
"..modifying school textbooks with an ideology so extreme as to be nearly beyond comprehension to any rational mind."

This is what I find so interesting (telling) about Atheists.. clearly, science is your "god".. it is what you worship and put your faith in (instead of a Supreme Being). You have chosen to believe that science will give you (or has) all the answers. But what is so glaringly ironic is the fact that science itself argues AGAINST our very existence. Our existence (the birth of existence) is illogical and goes against all (rational) theories of science. And this fact is so completely ignored by the scientific (Atheist) community.

Christian thought IS a more "complete and unified" body of thought than science. Christianity covers ALL the answers. It doesn't leave that ultimate question unanswered. But the "logical" science minded person says... "where's the proof??". Implying that without proof, discarding the theory is justified. Do scientific methods of research support that action? I don't think so. Doesn't it have to be DISPROVEN before it is discarded? Anyone who makes the claim that God (a Supreme Being) doesn't exist is showing their bias... and also their hypocrisy... using science to argue against God while science hasn't disproved Him is hypocrisy. ESPECIALLY when science.. your "god".. doesn't even come close to explaining the foundation of EVERYTHING... and again... argues AGAINST it. cont..
02:04 PM on 05/31/2010
There are many things present in our lives and existence that go against logical explanation... things that cannot be "tested" or "proven" but we KNOW they exist. And there are so many things left unanswered... it isn't reasonable or rational to emphatically reject the existence of a Creator... to me, it's arrogant and irrational.. an egotistical state of denial.

As long as there is no answer to how it all began... not even a logical reasonable THEORY as to how it all began... leaving out the
possibility of a Creator / Supreme Being is what would be a dis-service to our children.

And on another note.. you said that science is always "correcting" itself... "the difference between religion and science is that science, over time, is self-correcting, as new data become available, old theses are challenged and new ones offered for consideration. Science is dynamic by definition, changing as understanding grows."

So, that makes evolution a THEORY right? Open for correction. So, to insist that we eliminate other (prominent) THEORIES is extremely agenda biased and unfair. cont..
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Jeff Schweitzer
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10:47 PM on 05/31/2010
Yeah, like the Theory of Relativity. Theory does not mean untested; it means a comprehensive unifying idea tying together in a coherent pattern disparate ideas across multiple disciplines. Evolution does just that with converging evidence from embryology, genetics, cell physiology, geology, virology, microbiology, and archeology. The theory of evolution is like the theory of relativity. Claiming equivalency to other "theories" like Intelligent Design is preciscely like insisting that we teach in schools the earth might be flat because the idea the earth is a sphere is only a "theory." In fact, how do you know the earth is a sphere? Have you seen it from space yourself? So why not insiste that we teach "flat earth theory" to our school children? After all, it all just theory, and therefore every theory is equal in validity. So let's go flat earthers!
09:20 PM on 06/01/2010
"There are many things present in our lives and existence that go against logical explanation... things that cannot be "tested" or "proven" but we KNOW they exist."

Democritus theorized about atoms 2500 years ago. Nobody really managed to test or prove their existence until the 1900s.

In the meantime, people might have said that the question was unanswerable. They'd have been wrong. The whole point of science is to answer the questions that people think can't be answered. It's been going on for quite some time now...
02:12 PM on 05/31/2010
That science always "corrects" itself but God never does.. should be a clue. Christians can attest to God never failing us. That is what makes millions upon millions of intelligent people hold onto their faith amidst those "logical" thinkers who like to exploit the "talking snake" (etc) stories. There are many who do not take those stories literally but it's a little harder to attack those people huh?

And in defense of those who do take those stories literally.. in the MIRACULOUS and unexplainable universe that we live in.. with all of the unanswered questions that permeate our everyday lives... how can you justify dismissing those stories... how can you say that ANYTHING is impossible?? You can't. It's just blatant arrogance and egotistical pride prevailing (over TRUE objective reasoning) …. Characteristics that I have found to ALWAYS be present in the non believer.
05:31 PM on 05/31/2010
Sometimes "correction" means making just a little adjustment, right? My mom is always decorating and dad gets volunteered to help her. Move it this way. No back over that way. Better him than me! LOL

Sometimes "correction" means a total overhaul. Like when a person repents, they choose to go the right direction because they were on a wrong path. Right?

Genesis 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

God made the wrong choice and repented making people, that's why God killed everyone in the big flood. Even God can repent and self-correct. That's cool!
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Anna Nicole Dahmer
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05:36 PM on 05/31/2010
kams, you say "Christianity covers ALL the answers".

i disagree, chirsitianity does not cover all the answers, and christians themselves can't even agree on the simplest of subjects, other than, "jesus saves".
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
03:28 AM on 05/31/2010
Part of the problem with religion is that humans must have some concept of God, who is infinitely more than we can grasp. The closes definition of God that humans can grasp is that God is the ultimate and fundamental truth of the creation. This does not give Him a human personality, and it makes it hard for humans to believe that God knows or cares about them. Therein lies the rub--we need to believe that God does care for us. I do believe in God, but I recognize that my faith is irrational and unproveable.
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UnderTheHedgeWeGo
Show me some evidence.
12:21 PM on 05/31/2010
I don't. And, yes, it is irrational and unprovable.
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02:33 PM on 05/30/2010
**Junk food faith for a fat head nation**
The US a nation overwhelmingly god-fearing overwhelmingly rejects science. Millions lack an intelligence sufficiently educated and critical to reject the unctuous Fundie Fare they stuff into their brains.
True believers across the US demand that scientific knowledge should be dictated by some ideology rooted in 16th century Protestantism, or 13th century Catholicism, or 12th century Islam.
For these 21st century iPad consumers and Twitter users, technology is Cargo Cult -- magic devices created by the ancestors and delivered by ghosts to an Apple Store.
As consolation, the US is the grossest outlier among developed nations in its affinity for religious enthusiasms and in its failure to accept now elementary basic truths like evolution via natural selection.*
Consumption of junk food faith leads directly to intellectual blockage, gastric self-righteousness, and boundless ego inflation.
Surely fundie prayers have been answered: Super size me Jesus!
bipolar2
*Note: Live Science web site shows that Turkey is the only country out of 34 listed whose anti-evolution ideology is up to US standards. http://www.livescience.com Search term: chart acceptance evolution
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whirlpool
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01:27 PM on 05/30/2010
In our Saturday local paper there is always a column written by some religious figure in town. This week it was by a self-proclaimed scientist who holds an educational position in a local Catholic parish. He was proclaiming that Christian thought is a more "complete and unified" body of thought than science. “By comparison, scientific thought is a grab bag with a few proven theories with large gaps filled by partially proved hypothesis…While this head start (2,000 years) gives Christian thought an advantage over scientific thought, it does not explain the degree by which it is more complete and unified.” I probably won't post my response to him because it wouldn't make it past the censor. But I just couldn't resist making your day.
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Jeff Schweitzer
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03:24 PM on 05/30/2010
Wow. Whenever I think it can't get any crazier, I'm proven wrong. Of course religion is a more complete and unified body of thought -- it is one simple thought: god knows all but works in mysterious ways. Who needs more than that catch-all that explains nothing?
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bsmithslo
11:39 AM on 05/30/2010
I just love the fact that Liberals can't seem to recognize the irony of their position. The material placed in textbooks has been a political football from the beginning. It has been the left that has been shaping the history books for years. Much of what goes into shaping history is subjective (not so much about determining facts but rather selecting between facts). Determining what role Ronald Reagan or Christianity played in U.S. history is not at all like making determinations between gold and wood. The fact that the author makes no distinction between subjective determinations and objective ones is telling. It is just one more example of the Liberal belief that while there is no one objective morality there is one objective universal reality that must be determined by them alone through science alone (unless of course the science conflicts with deeply held beliefs; which Liberals have as well by the way).
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01:13 PM on 05/30/2010
Recognising the information science provides is not a liberal or conservative issue.
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bsmithslo
02:49 PM on 05/30/2010
Many people seem to think that science itself is not under the influence of politics. It is.

Also, I think it would be important to go through the authors examples and determine which things can be objectively determined by science and which cannot. Most cannot.
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Jeff Schweitzer
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03:26 PM on 05/30/2010
Stating that the U.S. is a Christian nation is very much as black and white like the distinctions between wood and gold. Every founding document excludes god; the constitution has not one single reference to god of any kind. The writings, letters and works of our founding fathers make it unambiguously clear, with explicit statements, that the country was not founded on Christian principles. Wood and gold -- no matter how much you want to obscure the issue with subjectivity, where none exists.
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bsmithslo
04:39 PM on 05/30/2010
Here's a little gem from the changes made. Please tell me how you can relate to this statement in the context of wood and gold. Is this too "Christian" for you?

"Examine the reasons the Founding Fathers protected religious freedom in America and guaranteed free exercise by saying that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, and compare and contrast this to the phrase 'separation of church and state'."
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
03:41 PM on 05/28/2010
I'm not sure it's really an assault on science. Science just looks like an easy target to the jesus taliban, and with the wind of superstition at your back, they can convince their foolish adherents that they've beaten it.

These guys are actually against all forms of enquiry and thought. They can all draw a cartoon of a dinosaur with a saddle, and snigger amongst themselves about the youth of the grand canyon,
but they can't even begin to make a soundbite attack on careful historical or legal work.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
03:23 PM on 05/28/2010
No objection with your arguments there, but when texas helps itself to a giant portion of stupid, who loses? Surely, it's mostly texas.

I appreciate that the textbook market is affected by Texas, but with online publishing you can easily have a texas edition and a real-world edition without incurring too great a cost. Smart kids and teachers in texas can even choose to browse the real-world edition. Smart teachers can also teach critical skills by getting their classes to find and correct the errors in the official textbooks.

The most interesting aspect to me is that the self-proclaimed `libertarians' are prescribing truth from the curriculum. Something of a conflict for the christian jihadis, non?
02:50 PM on 05/28/2010
Well said. There was a book I read a while ago entitled "Idiot America: How Stupidity Became in Virtue in the Land of the Free" by Charles Pierce. It opens with a description of the Creation Museum, in Kentucky (complete with saddles on dinosaurs). The author asks, how can it be that America does not laugh at a fictional museum? Perhaps the best answer is that, traditionally, we think we shouldn't criticize one's beliefs. If I tell you I have a unicorn in my backyard, you'd probably question it. But if I tell you someone parted the Red Sea, you's call that freedom of religion.
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Jeff Schweitzer
Scientist; Fmr. White House Senior Policy Analyst
05:30 PM on 05/28/2010
Don't forget virgin birth, ressurection, talking snakes, living in a whale, 600 year old men...
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01:39 PM on 05/30/2010
Of course some of us with a literary bent find these stories to be interesting fictional literature in the realm of mythology and metaphor. Some of them even have deep symbolic meaning that repeat over and over again is mythology and storytelling--hence the development of literary theory and literary archetypes. (See Foulke and Smith -- An Anatomy of Literature.)
02:04 AM on 05/28/2010
Good article. I don't know, I've had some theories as to why this is occurring. It can't all be placed at the feet of scientists as "bad communication" though. More and more is done in outreach then ever before, yet the problem is worse now than it was.

I think a lot comes down to a lack of intellectual courage, or the willingness to face that what we know or want to believe may be wrong. Scientists have to do that often, and in the past others had to do it more as well. Now we can carefully select nearly all our media and fact sources without having to wade through those we don't like. There are even others that will do that last one for us and helpfully tell us when we should scoff. Given this, many naturally decide to feel comfortable in a little self-confirming reality bubble. Religion was very good at that, but political ideologies work just as well. Even pseudoscience groups can do it. There are examples with many ideologies, but the SBOE is perhaps one of the most nakedly obvious examples right now.

As to literacy, we need to start with basics of hypothesis testing, and follow it up with teaching about logical fallacies. While facts are critical, the mental tools to test test and question reality are more vital. If there is a way to instill an excitement for having ones preconceptions broken down and reformed by new data, that might also help.
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Jeff Schweitzer
Scientist; Fmr. White House Senior Policy Analyst
10:04 AM on 05/28/2010
I agree; the most important point is that we need to teach people to think critically and to evaluate logically.
12:29 PM on 05/30/2010
I found something you said that I agree with, so I wanted to go ahead and do so. More logic and science at early grade levels!
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
03:22 AM on 05/31/2010
The scientific method requires humility enough to admit that you may be wrong, and courage enough to see things differently. Many people lack both.
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Uncle Bob
Darwin loves you.
01:08 AM on 05/28/2010
It really comes down to this: reality.

I with we could all get under the same tent, but as this current political/religious confrontation is proving, there is a lot of debate on where reality begins and where reality ends. Its seems to be very debatable depending on your religions/political leanings.

Which is quite mind boggling to me, but I can't say I'm surprised.....I've conversed with the religious before. Don't be fooled by all the "moderates" posing near by...they'll side with the crazy fundies faster than you can blink.....or at least, keep silent.

Same thing.
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Jeff Schweitzer
Scientist; Fmr. White House Senior Policy Analyst
10:06 AM on 05/28/2010
That is one fundamental problem with religion; reality has no role, and with no ties to objective truth, anything goes.
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whirlpool
founder walnut tree congregation
12:03 PM on 05/28/2010
This is too much of a generalization. I know of pastors and churches where there is a great deal of critical thinking and scholarship including Biblical scholarship. There is also study of other religions and traditions. Certainly it is not true that "anything goes" in these groups. Some of these groups deal with the "reality" of poverty and social justice every single day. But your point is valid for some denominations.
12:17 PM on 05/30/2010
Your statement is blatantly false and unscientific. Your dogmatic inclination to assume that the worst forms of religion are "representative" is just silly. There is a wide universe of religious phenomena; I would suggest treating them as bearing only family resemblances amongst each other. Your desire to boil it all down to one easily-disparaged thing is very similar to the irrationality of the worst religious people.
12:20 PM on 05/30/2010
I'm a "moderate" who resents you saying that I would ever side with fundies, and I'm not keeping silent. I'm speaking up against the Texas school board, against gay-bashers and authoritarians, and also against you.
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Uncle Bob
Darwin loves you.
01:08 PM on 05/30/2010
I'm not sure how that counters what I said....?

I didn't accuse all religious people as being fundies, I said all religious beliefs are at least somewhat out of touch with reality. (actually, I didn't even say that, but I'll simplify the argument and give it as a conclusion)

I'm not claiming to "own" reality, but I don't see how a religious belief can HELP someone better understand reality, since they inherently make claims that are counter, or at least, irrelevant to the observed reality.

It's just a matter of degree.
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Jeff Schweitzer
Scientist; Fmr. White House Senior Policy Analyst
03:32 PM on 05/30/2010
Fine, and I wish there were more of you; but who is to say your views are representative? The success of the SBOE would indicate otherwise.