For Assassination Joke, Huckabee Should Be Off TV

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Having joked less than a year ago about killing Mitt Romney (and his supporters), former Republican candidate for president, Mike Huckabee, has now made light of assassinating Sen. Barack Obama.

According to CNN, during his recent speech at the NRA convention in Louisville Kentucky, the former presidential candidate offered the following joke in response to a loud noise off stage:

"That was Barack Obama, he just tripped off a chair, he's getting ready to speak...Somebody aimed a gun at him and he dove for the floor." (from CNN PoliticalTicker.com)

As Huckabee transitions from presidential candidate to media pundit, his habit of joking about political assassination leads many Americans to question the place of violent rhetoric in the speech of high-profile political pundits, as well as the consequences that should result from it.

Legal vs. Civic Questions
Many would argue that joking about assassinating a Presidential candidate falls well within the realm of free speech and should not merit any particular consequences--legal, moral or otherwise. Indeed, past court rulings on the question of jokes about assassinating a sitting president suggest that it is very difficult to establish any kind of legal culpability in these instances. The question, it seems, falls down to two factors: (1) the often 'vituperative, abusive, and inexact,' nature of political rhetoric and (2) the legal difficulty of establishing intent to bring about actual harm in these instances (see Eugene Volokh, 'Jokes About Killing the President' Apr 27, 2005).

Legal questions, of course, are only one aspect of this issue. In addition to what is permissible by law, Americans are also deeply concerned with whether or not certain kinds of speech tend to undermine the necessary pragmatic nature of our civic process -- our ability to turn to the media and to each other to learn what we need to learn in order to achieve our common goals. When we turn away from legal questions and begin to examine the kinds of rhetoric that may undermine our deliberative democracy, we start to see that Americans are by-and-large opposed to violent jokes and speech tossed out by political pundits.

And yet despite this opposition on the basis of maintaining a healthy, civic process, violent-rhetoric from high-profile pundits continues largely unchecked.

In 2006, for example, Ann Coulter joked about the need for someone to assassinate Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens:

We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme brulee," Coulter said. "That's just a joke, for you in the media. (Coulter Jokes About Poisoning Supreme Court Justice, FOX News)

A trained Constitutional attorney, Coulter understood the legal precedents regarding jokes about political assassination -- meaning that she knew how to craft a joke about political assassination such that it would not land her in any kind of jeopardy. Nonetheless, it is clear that Coulter also knows that joking about assassinating a Supreme Court Justice would earn her a great deal of media coverage and have an impact on national debate on abortion.

In a political context where anti-abortion activists have assassinated medical practitioners on the excuse that they were stopping the doctors from performing further procedures, many interpreted Coulter's joke as having contributed to an atmosphere of violence and threat in American politics.

Citizen Outrage Ignored By Media Companies
Citizens' concerns over Coulter, however, were not in any way heeded by corporate media--both broadcast and publishing -- nor by political parties. Following her remarks, Coulter continued to earn huge book deals and continued to enjoy virtual open access to high-profile broadcast media.

What Coulter and Huckabee share in common is that they both used rhetoric that was legal, but nonetheless toxic to healthy political debate.

When a political pundit uses a high-profile political forum to joke about assassinating his or her political opposition, the result is that deliberative debate shuts down. Indeed, the response that violent rhetoric elicits in the minds of Americans is not the desire to censor speech in any way, but a call for violent-speech to be channeled towards entertainment where citizens are provided with the resources to make more informed choices about what they will and will not watch or hear.

In the meantime, Mike Huckabee's joke about an assassination attempt on Sen. Obama will lead to the same outcome as Coulter's joke about assassinating John Paul Stevens: disruption of deliberative debate followed by greater broadcast presence awarded to him by the media.

The outcome should be the opposite: media marginalization instead of aggrandizement.

For joking about the assassination of Sen. Obama, Mike Huckabee should be removed from the rosters of all the various cable and network stations on which he regularly appears.


 
 

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Huckabee spawned a cruel, sadistic teenager who hanged and tortured a pitiful starving stray dog while holding a respected leadership role and position of great trust over young Boy Scouts. Huckabee to me is one thing only: a man who should keep his head down, stay humble, spend even more time than most of us asking God's pardon and praying for understanding. He's anything but humble, and I don't like him.

Google for a picture of Mike Huckabee's psycho son. He'll give you nightmares.

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ex-Republican

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 05/20/2008

Put Huckabee in a padded cell with Hagee and Palfrey. First to see the rapture wins thorazine for life!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 05/20/2008

I despise President Bush, I mean I really hate him, but I would never make a joke like that. I have called him many, many names, and have even hinted that his parents were never married, or that his anccestry includes canines, but never a comment like Mike Huckabee's.

Even if you can't respect the man, you MUST respect the office. Barak Obama is a sitting Senator of the United States of America, and as such deserves respect. Mike Huckabee should be ashamed of himself. (of course he is kind of a true nut-job, so who knows if he really gets why this was sooooo bad.)

R's just can't bring the funny. They try, but they always sound mean.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 05/20/2008

well shmuck's comment has disappeared from the the main stream media in less then 3 days. Now, what would have happened if Obama had made an assignation joke about McCain? No really, what would have happened?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 05/20/2008

It's nice to finally see Huckabee's true colors.

It's telling that Huckabee made another assasination joke a year prior re: Romney. Not so much of an aberration now, is it? I don't even think the NRA liked it when he made those remarks about Obama. It played into stereotypes that they don't like about themselves.

I agree with the person who said Huckabee should be banished from all cable and networks. What would he do without them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 05/20/2008

I think Hucks true colors are that he was not really joking, but was probably a freudian slip. Remember when another religious, right wing, wacko on the lunatic fringe called for the assassination of Hugo Chavez and Pat Robertson was serious!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 05/20/2008

To the Rev. Huckabee via Ring Lardner, with American history in mind:

"Shut up," he explained.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 05/20/2008

What is even more alarming is that Huckabee is still being spoken of as a possible VP candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 05/20/2008

Because of the history of this Bush Republican crime family, I am very concerned for Obama. The remark made by gun-toting Huckabee should not be taken lightly. All of these neo-con so called Christians apologize after they get out the message of how they truly feel. In their perverted way of interpreting the words of Christ, they seem to find justification in anything that they do or say. I pray the Lord to send His Holy Angels to surround and protect our nominee, Obama and his family.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 05/20/2008

If Obama were a "full" white man, Uncle Huckabee would have at least been detained by the law enforcement community for questioning!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 05/20/2008

I'm white,blue collar,with half a brain and half a soul.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 05/20/2008

I'm still not sure Sen Barack has what it takes. He seems to be. All the other alternative candidates are so scary, I'd vote for Oprah or Letterman. The Way this country works, behind the scenes,behind the media output, is appalling. If and when he gets the nonmination,he will need coverage from the government,from the kitchen government. No its no joke. Its not about race or gender, its about who gets the money. Most of the money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 AM on 05/20/2008

And a red poster with the words "stop him Now" doesn't belong here either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 05/20/2008

This is not a joke. The feelings among many of us is that given the way extremists have conducted themselves, and with the implicit approval of certain members of our government, it is very likely that someone or some organization will attempt to "stop" Obama the way they stopped Martin Luther King.
It was already mentioned that it would happen in West Virginia if he went there. The scary part is that it wouldn't be of any surprise if some deranged person or persons actually tried, and it wouldn't be of any surprise if such an event also murdered democarcy along with it. This nation would never recover.
Already a billionaire offered a million dollars for a video of Obama's wife denoucing whites, how much would be offered to "stop" Obama? The problem is that for every black supporting obama, there are two whites also supporting him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 05/20/2008

I know its not a joke. I've seen what happens to the unfavored. My comment was to the columnist,not the situation. The reality needs to be faced on. the threats are real and history has shown us they can carry through. But this columnists comments were merely attention getting and out of reality. the violent rhetoric comes from many seemingly innocuous places,not this poor man's lack of sense of humor.(elected poor man). It's our lack that lets this go on. We vote for expedient solution,rather than solution. the comment was only to the columnist,for throwing gasoline on a spark,hoping to ignite to a pulitzer. oldwiseone no disrespect to the real world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 05/20/2008

The problem isn't politicians making bad or inappropriate jokes. Thats a given. The problem lies with columnists like you,who make a big jump from bad joke to violent rhetoric. From now on you and your ilk, should continue the rhythmic pushing and pulling of you pens,to yourselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 05/19/2008

The Wright snippets played in the MSM for weeks and will play for many more.
The Huckabee idiocy got a few hours of airtime and poof- GONE. What does that tell you about who plays what and who hushes what?
And Huckabee wants to be vice president after a gaffe like that. What a gift of gaffe for the Dems.
The fact that murmurs were the only responses from the NRA members was noteable.
Sorry Mr. Huckleberry Hound, you may have barked the wrong bark.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 05/19/2008

Yes I tried to contact MSNBC to tell them this. Huckabee was on MTP on Sun and I was outraged!

I will boycott NBC and MTP until they stop putting him on TV.

He is a disgrace to our political process.
There is no room for a "joke" like this.

If he's going to appear on TV he should appear in white robes w pointy hat, in uniform, in other words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 05/19/2008

Another soi disant "christian". It amazes me how christians can act like they have the monopoly on God on Sundays, but other days they can do and say what they want. The feeble attempt of a apology is not sincere. No reason to apologize if he kept his mouth shut. I really at one time thought Mike was at least a viable Republican candidate, but now, he has allowed his carnal ways to take precedence. God forbid anything happen, an apology doesn't do anything. For a supposedly christian, we are about healing and estoring, not tearing down, not ridicuking a fellow believer. Mike needs to be ashame of himself. Considering the history of Black men and women who rose to power and the results, this just incites racism. Obama has proved himself worthy, regardless of what anyone thinks and I hope he does become president. Mike shame on you. If anyone has his offcial website, i would be interested in posting my opinion

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 05/19/2008

I was disappointed with Huckabee, At one point during the primaries he seemed to display some measure of intelligence and integrity.
But put him before an audience that he imagined would be racist and trigger-happy, he uttered an ugly, pandering 'joke' that fell flat.
Serves him right, so now he knows that not all gun owners are racist, ignorant hicks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 05/19/2008

Mike Huckabee is Judas reincarnated!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 05/19/2008

Mike Huckabee is Judas reincarnated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 05/19/2008

What swill! Hillary's campaign was -- until recent days -- straight out of the Republican play book. She agreed that Michigan and Florida were off the table, but then piously argued that they should count. When asked whether Obama is a Muslim, her response started out noble but took a sharp turn into political hackery -- "He's a Christian," she replied just before adding the "sly", "as far as I know."

Her strong sense of entitlement (and that of some of her supporters) has been terribly off-putting -- and, as she comes upon the realization that she will not win, she has transferred that sense of entitlement from her party's nomination as presidential candidate to her appointment as vice-presidential candidate.

She has lied outright and outrageously about being under fire -- as though protective mother (her best feature, IMHO) would have brought Chelsea into danger. Later, she said she "mis-spoke" because she was tired -- raising doubts about her ability to do well with that 3 AM phone call and jumping in the face of the facts. One doesn't add a detailed story when mis-speaking. And one doesn't mis-speak the same way on three separate occasions -- including one occasion at 9:30 AM. Perhaps it's vocabulary. Perhaps she thinks to mis-speak is to prevaricate.

Sorry. Hillary's campaign will NOT morph itself into a tale of triumph -- except in her own mind and in the minds of the most avid, non-discerning, and hard-core supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 05/19/2008

I condemn Huckabee for his "joke." And who will join me in condemning those who made plays, wrote books, and produced movies about assassinating G.W. Bush?


*crickets*

Well, at least you're consistent!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 05/19/2008

Who wrote books, plays and movies about that?

I have not heard of any, myself.

Must be the circles you run in..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 05/19/2008

The DNC should demand the Justice Department arrest Huckabee for signaling a threat to assassinate Obama before a group that attracts mercs and other violent types. They should bring the case to the Grand Jury and attempt to indict him. If a Grand Jury indicts him, he should be tried. There are laws against threatening a federal official (Obama is a Senator) and federal candidate for office. The Grand Jury and jury can determine whether there is probable cause to believe a crime has been committed and if so, whether Huckabee committed a crime. When Huckabee's statements are considered together with Bush's Knesset speech and McCain's ratification of Bush's Knesset speech, they are, in a coordinated manner, accusing Obama of treason and signaling that he be assassinated. There are enough examples of poltiical assassination in US history, especially during primary season when it's easier to pull off than after there is a candidate or the candidate is elected President, that the Justice Department has reason to act now, despite Huckabee's so-called apology.



Huckabee may also have violated the Patriot Act by making a terroristic threat against a sitting US Senator and Presidential candidate. It may be he should simply be arrested and put in jail with no rights as a possible terrorist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 05/19/2008

Huckabee shouldn't be removed from anything. He didn't threaten to shoot Obama. He made a misguided attempt at a joke regarding a gun at an NRA convention. He apologized. What else can he do?



Doesd anyone really doubt that one of the possibilities motivating Senator Clinton to stay in the race is that Obama might be assassinated? I lived through the Evers-Kennedy-Malcolm X-King-Kennedy assassinations and was present at two of them. I think and fear everyday about such a fate befalling Senator Obama. Huckabee apparently doesn't. God bless him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 05/19/2008

What else can he do? He can retire. In case you hadn't noticed this wasn't the first time Governor Huckabee has made an "assasination joke." It's bad enough for a regular joe to do something like that but for a political figure it's unconsionable and reprehensible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 05/19/2008

I'll bet that the Rev. Wright doesn't bother you at all does he?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 05/20/2008

It's also criminal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 05/19/2008

That's christian compassion speaking out again... you know we took away the popes army for a reason!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 05/19/2008
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