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Pope on Gay Marriage: 'A Threat to Humanity'

Posted: 01/18/2012 1:52 pm

On Jan. 9, Pope Benedict XVI told a gathering of diplomats that family is only "based on the marriage of a man and a woman" and then went on to say that "policies which undermine the family threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself." (See report here) Why are so many Christian churches still offended by homosexuality? Of all of the "causes" that a religious group could choose to focus their attention (and wrath) upon, what is it about gays that bothers them so much? Why does this issue carry more weight for some people than the environment, terrorism, poverty, domestic violence, the national debt, or the myriad of other real issues facing our society? Today we better understand the complicated interplay of genetics, environment, biochemistry, and psychology that shapes all aspects of who we are. So why is someone's sexual orientation a moral issue at all?

The answer we often hear to these questions is that the Bible teaches that homosexuality is an abomination. But if we step back and understand that the purpose behind morality is to set forth the principles that govern how we live in harmony with others in our society, then we realize that the specifics of our moral laws will be dependent upon the times and cultures in which we live. If we look to Jesus' teaching about the most important commandments (to love God and to love our neighbor), we can find universal moral principles that are as applicable today as they were two thousand years ago. However, the context in which we live today is very different. (We don't stone unruly children to death, we do not own slaves, and women are not subservient to men). Therefore, we should expect the application of these moral principles to be different today than they were then. Are two people in a loving gay relationship causing moral harm to our society while those who angrily condemn them are helping?

A few years ago, radio pop-psychologist Dr. Laura Schlesinger, who is Jewish, spoke out against homosexuality, justifying her stance with teachings from the Bible. Although she has since recanted her comments, the following letter, which can be found online in various forms, written to her then is still applicable (and quite funny) to the debate we continue to hear today. In fact, we might as well change the salutation to Dear Pope Benedict.


Dear Dr. Laura:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to best follow them.

1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev.1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. What do I do about this?

2. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

3. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as allowed in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

4. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev.15: 19-24). The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there "degrees" of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16). Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
Sincerely, Your adoring fan"


As the letter above so humorously demonstrates, the Bible contains many moral teachings we no longer heed because the society in which we live today is different from the one in which the authors of these books lived. Is it not time to add the teachings against homosexuality to the list of outdated commandments?

 
 
 

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Diana Scrimger
12:37 AM on 01/29/2012
As they said on the show Buffy the Vampire Slayer. According to Giles the earth is doomed.
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Diana Scrimger
05:37 PM on 01/21/2012
The pope is correct!
11:42 AM on 01/20/2012
I think that the pope is the biggest threat to society.
08:00 PM on 01/20/2012
The biggest threat to society are clever people who make broad generalizations.
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11:35 PM on 01/20/2012
The biggest threat to humanity is over population, which the Catholic Church encourages.
thebigbike
ran away to be a cowboy
01:17 AM on 01/21/2012
Yup! like styatements that "policies which undermine the family threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself."
10:39 PM on 01/19/2012
The Pope’s whole quote, before the author added the preface “only” and cut out a necessary explanation read.”. Among these, pride of place goes to the family, based on the marriage of a man and a woman. This is not a simple social convention, but rather the fundamental cell of every society. Consequently, policies which undermine the family threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself. The family unit is fundamental for the educational process and for the development both of individuals and States; hence there is a need for policies which promote the family and aid social cohesion and dialogue.” I think the old guy was trying to be pro family.

But then all the parts he cut out would render the article’s rhetorical questions moot. (Already answered.)
The Pope DOES mention: terrorism, poverty, violence and a bunch of other serious issues. The author should have done a word search.

The author and the editor would do well to have read the whole piece, there is a lot more to be offended by. Then maybe we would not need to pad his article with a cut and paste of a dusty old Dr. Laura piece.
01:49 PM on 01/20/2012
He may have been trying to be pro family, however he left out a whole bunch of (gay) families. Gay families do NOT threaten anyone else's family. To suggest otherwise is hubris.
04:51 PM on 01/20/2012
not hubris. A damnable lie.
08:02 PM on 01/20/2012
No matter how you slice it, nontraditional families are not the basis of society.
02:33 AM on 01/22/2012
MightyYowp, you really hit the nail on the head. Thank you for such a great, insightful response to this piece!
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JDuck
Until we know the equal we'll never feel the free.
09:20 PM on 01/19/2012
"As the letter above so humorously demonstrates, the Bible contains many moral teachings we no longer heed because the society in which we live today is different from the one in which the authors of these books lived. Is it not time to add the teachings against homosexuality to the list of outdated commandments?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIAXdP0ROrA

To answer your question; yes.
06:18 PM on 01/19/2012
That letter was a riot!
04:57 PM on 01/19/2012
If gay marriage is such a threat to humanity, then why did the Catholic church have over 100 litanies specifically for gay marriages as recently as the end of the 19th century - IN THE USA?
08:09 PM on 01/20/2012
Why do people purposefully distort history in order to pursue their own agenda?

This old story using a ham-handed interpretation of 'Ordo ad fratres faciendum' was debunked quite some time ago.

And yes, I know - Abrahma Lincoln was a homosexual too.
02:47 AM on 01/22/2012
Thank you for listing title of the misinterpreted piece. Sometimes same-sex marriage activists make the claim that the Catholic church went against marriage by supporting same-sex marriages in the past but they could never provide any further information. Now I know what they were attempting to refer to, and I will have a chance to be more well-informed.

Thanks again.
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οὐκ ἔστιν θεός
07:21 PM on 01/22/2012
Asmondius, you write, “This old story using a ham-handed interpretation of ‘Ordo ad fratres faciendum’ was debunked quite some time ago.”

Not so fast, please...

While “Ordo fratres faciendum” and “Θεσμός Ἀδελφοπόησις” are legitimately translated, “Rite of Brother-Making,” the latter is rooted in deeper Classical and ecclesiastical roots.

One of the earliest allusions to this phenomenon in Classical literature is found in the work of Μέστριος Πλούταρχος, titled: “Πελοπίδας.” He speaks of “the sacred band” (τὸν δ᾽ἱερὸν λόχον) of 150 male couples who were the best among specially trained and chosen soldiers who were bound together as “brothers” (ἀδελφοί) as well as “lovers and beloved.” (ἐραστῶν καὶ ἐρωμένων).

Continuing this ancient tradition throughout the centuries, male couples in many Greek-speaking Christian Churches avowed themselves to each other with holy communion (ἀχράντων μυστηρίων), a three-fold embrace in the name of God and St. John, the disciple that Jesus loved (τριπλό ἀσπασμό στο ὄνομα τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ τοῦ Aγίου Ιωάννη, ὁ μαθητὴς ἐκεῖνος ὃν ἠγάπα ὁ Ἰησοῦς) and kisses (φιλήματα). [1]
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[1] In “Ἀδελφοπόησις,” by Πατ. Ἐυαγγελος Μαντζυνέας, 1982.
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eliasasm
03:20 PM on 01/19/2012
"It must be said that genuine compassion is not like pity or a feeling that others are somehow lower than you. Rather, with genuine compassion you view others as more important than yourself".

Dalai Lama
01:14 PM on 01/19/2012
If there is one thing that has threatened humanity over the previous thousands of years it has been the Catholic Church.
08:11 PM on 01/20/2012
Introducing the hospital system, university system, the scientific method, and public education have certainly had very negative results.
thebigbike
ran away to be a cowboy
01:23 AM on 01/21/2012
but as far as "scientific method--- fighting kicking and screaming for centuries eppur si muove

public for catholics.....
02:48 AM on 01/22/2012
Well-said.
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Tuskin Roberts
12:30 PM on 01/19/2012
Why, you ask, is homosexuality considered a moral issue?

Because people hate what they don't understand, and religion thrives where knowledge is in short supply.
08:13 PM on 01/20/2012
Why do people who disagree with you become labelled as 'haters'?

Because people opposed to free speech commonly objectify their opponents.
10:47 AM on 01/19/2012
Here's a real quote from Benedict, in the same speech about tolerance and dignity.

"In other parts of the world, we see policies aimed at marginalizing the role of religion in the life of society, as if it were a cause of intolerance rather than a valued contribution to education in respect for human dignity, justice and peace. In the past year religiously motivated terrorism has also reaped numerous victims, especially in Asia and in Africa; for this reason, as I stated in Assisi, religious leaders need to repeat firmly and forcefully that “this is not the true nature of religion. It is the antithesis of religion and contributes to its destruction”.[4] Religion cannot be employed as a pretext for setting aside the rules of justice and of law for the sake of the intended “good”.
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jollywhitegiant
Please, think responsibly.
09:24 AM on 01/19/2012
A History Lesson:

The reason why homosexuality is framed as a current, modern, moral idea is correctly stated as the Church's inability to separate historical culture from modern culture. When we frame morality as an endeavor to mitigate suffering and promote happiness, we see the connection. In ancient times, homosexuality, while not posing a primary threat of suffering on anyone, posed a secondary and long-term element of suffering in the community. Ancient peoples lived for having male children: without male children, there was a direct threat to the inheritance of property and the well-being of the wives and daughters, as property was passed primarily through the males.

Since homosexuality did not produce children, it was seen as a societal and cultural threat to the "family" (used synonymously with 'society').

Now look at this situation in modern terms. Inheritance and wealth pass freely between genders. Our survival is not contingent on having children, and there is a present notion among many people that having children is just not what they want to do. Therefore, homosexuality offers no dire threat to the community of larger society.

In other words, what worked in ancient times does not, and cannot, work now.
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DakkonA
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02:16 PM on 01/19/2012
Exactly. The tales of the old testament are of a tribe and culture that struggled to maintain its own identity, to propagate, to spread. From the point of view of the elders, hasrhly punishing same-sex relations as you have described here, as well as incursions of other cultures (e.g. the religions and ways of other neighboring tribes) were very important to this process.
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french queen13
my beloved is mine and I am his
10:48 PM on 01/19/2012
Not to mention that cutting down the breeding of a species with seven billion members would be a good idea!
08:55 PM on 01/20/2012
Isn't that what abortion is for?

One million per year in the USA - not a bad culling, eh?
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08:52 AM on 01/19/2012
I wonder if that letter had anything to do with Dr. Laura's decision to drop the God talk and just go secular (not that it changed her views on individual issues).
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Redhunteur
If I damn yer POV will u turn the other cheek?
08:46 AM on 01/19/2012
The catholic church is a threat to humanity and history proves it.

Strange... I don't recall gay marriage ever burning a single person at the stake.
chesscub
Mind of a computer, body of a walrus
09:44 AM on 01/19/2012
Well, some of us are flaming.

The Catholic Church is organized crime.
08:40 PM on 01/20/2012
I don't recall homosexual marriage feeding, clothing, and caring for millions.
thebigbike
ran away to be a cowboy
01:26 AM on 01/21/2012
(Germany and France and Italy, 1940---)
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Redhunteur
If I damn yer POV will u turn the other cheek?
09:16 AM on 01/21/2012
Perhaps they didn't feel like lying to people to get their money to pay for it first. Well, second. Right after they build an an opulant castle filled with expensive furniture and expensive art.

You deflection doesn't make up for the untold widescale damage it has caused though. Nothing short of dictators and invaders have even come close.

On the other hand, gay marriage will affect you just as much as your straight neighbours do or some straight folks across town.
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AskMrBill
Go ahead, ask me.
08:29 AM on 01/19/2012
When we make anything a "moral" issue, the position our society holds on the issue is relevant. In other words, it can be molded to fit each society differently depending upon circumstances and popular opinion, to name two. However, if you frame something to be "ethical", that means the position transcends generations, circumstances, and borders. So, the question should be asked, "Is homosexuality a moral or ethical issue?"