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There Is a Man in the Women's Bathroom!

Posted: 02/15/2012 6:44 pm

By Lisa Dazols

2012-02-14-image-20111005at210852.jpgAfter six months of travel in Asia, I've gotten used to people trying to kick me out of the women's restroom thinking that I am a man. After I explain to the startled women that there is no need to be alarmed, they usually respond apologetically, and I'm left to pee in peace. But there are also times when I'm met with genuine hostility. It's amazing how much you can understand when people are talking about you without understanding a single word. My worst incident? Getting forcibly ejected from a roadside toilet by a group of angry women and having to hold my pee in for the next seven hours on the bus ride from Udaipur to Delhi.

To avoid this harrowing ordeal, I try my best to avoid using the toilet altogether until we're back in the safety of our hostel. But when you have a small bladder like mine (not to mention occasional traveler's diarrhea), sometimes you just gotta go.

2012-02-14-image-20111210at151637.jpgSo, I've adopted a method for mitigating conflict. Before I enter a restroom, I take off my jacket and thrust out my chest to make my womanly parts as obvious as possible. I try to look as unthreatening as I can, holding my palms up and saying hello to anyone in the restroom so that they can hear my feminine voice. When all that fails, I avoid all eye contact and just dart into a stall and do my business as quickly as possible.

Most of the time, I don't blame the other women for their confusion. I understand that their actions are out of fear that a man has intruded their private space. In most Asian countries, women dress conservatively and rarely wear their hair short. There certainly are very few androgynous-looking women walking around in men's clothing.

Traveling through India, however, has left me feeling as if I am having to spend all day dealing with the restroom conflict. In India's conservative culture, there's a clear segregation between women and men in nearly all aspects of society. In a positive light, this is a way to protect women from the chaos and crowds of India. Beginning at the airport, there are lines separating women and men to board the plane. There are lines split by gender to enter the mall, movie theater, and even the Taj Mahal. The metro in Delhi has its own entrance and car for women. Trains and buses also have reserved seats and spaces for women.

2012-02-14-image-20111220at191450.jpgAll of this means hell for someone like me. I'm constantly getting harassed by security guards trying to get me to go to the men's line. At times, the stares have been so intense that I've considered just giving up and getting into the men's line. But because you are scanned and patted down in all these lines, I also fear their reaction once they discover that I'm a woman. In my desperation, I considered wearing something more girly (a local Indian suggested that I start wearing earrings), but honestly, I'm just too far gone for that. I've really felt for my transgender friends when I think of how much harder this must be for them.

Now, there are some advantages to being perceived as a man. In dodgy situations, Jenni and I have felt safer when others assume we're a straight couple. Men keep their distance from us, and we blend in with everyone else.

All of this gender confusion yielded some unexpected benefits when we visited Jama Masjid, India's largest mosque. I paid for our tickets and walked through the entrance with Jenni. She was immediately stopped by a security guard who handed her the most unattractive mumu to cover her body from head to toe before entering the mosque (see the picture at the left). I, on the other hand, passed through without issue. For once in India, I caught a break!


This piece originally appeared on OutAndAround.com.

 

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By Lisa Dazols After six months of travel in Asia, I've gotten used to people trying to kick me out of the women's restroom thinking that I am a man. After I explain to the startled women that there ...
By Lisa Dazols After six months of travel in Asia, I've gotten used to people trying to kick me out of the women's restroom thinking that I am a man. After I explain to the startled women that there ...
 
 
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03:39 PM on 03/06/2012
It can have benefits.
My ex used to get bus and train tickets for the student rates because everyone thought she was a 14 year old boy.
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Shannon Barber
Gay, atheist, liberal and proud of it.
02:30 AM on 02/24/2012
oh, how I identify with this! I am lucky,since I am not as thin as I once was, my face is more effeminate and my boobs are bigger.But I still have to MAKE SURE that I don't alarm anyone in public restrooms. I can't imagine this in another country. Its bad enough in the US.
12:28 AM on 02/17/2012
In the past 3 years I've been at the college I go to; I didn't realize how many types of lesbian womyn we have on campus: butches, dykes, females stud's (boi's..??) etc..and from a distance you would think they are boys right away...the way these masculine-like womyn walk, dress and behave like boys do (kind of..??) If I saw any of these ladies in the bathroom; I, too, would think they were boys at 1st...then I realize she has boobs; oops!!
03:37 PM on 03/06/2012
they don't behave like boys do.

They behave like butch women/bois do.
03:15 PM on 02/16/2012
Haha, oh boy (no pun intended)! For the washroom lines, should have just gone to the mens side, it probably would have been virtually empty!
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Sistagirl Young
03:11 PM on 02/16/2012
When I was employed with the U.S. Postal Service I encountered a Lesbian in the ladies room. At a cursory glance...wow. She had short hair and like I said it was a cursory glance. I was so happy when she said somethin' like how ya doin' Sista?' But I remember when I had my hair cut in a Quo Vadis and had on a baseball cap. I was in a liquor store and the guy behind the counter goes "may I help you sir?" I was most indignant. I asked my friend did I look like a man? He said "Excuse me do I know you sir?" I only did two years with time off for good behavior." I'm just kiddin'. He said the guy just saw the cap and...I even had on earrings. Funny after I got over my pique. But hey, my niece is always tellin' me how much I look like her Dad. I don't confuse folk now that I am wearin' a natural. Life.
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VirginiaJeff
Waiting for the "Jennifer Government" movie
03:04 PM on 02/16/2012
One of the reasons Americans have a reputation as arrogant, is our refusal to adapt to different customs when abroad. I expect that kind of inflexibility from rightwingers, not progressives.
03:34 PM on 02/16/2012
You would hate it where I live. There are so many women in ninja outfits who refuse "to adapt to different customs when abroad".
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VirginiaJeff
Waiting for the "Jennifer Government" movie
04:14 PM on 02/16/2012
Why would I hate it? Would I mistake them for being in the wrong bathroom, then have to listen to them lecture me about assumptions? I don't think so.  I said "adapt" to customs, not completely convert.
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Amminadab
None of this is real
04:23 PM on 02/16/2012
Women in ninja outfits?

That is very close to the line.
12:06 AM on 02/17/2012
So if an American refused to stone a gay man to death in the Middle East would that be arrogance too?
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VirginiaJeff
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07:32 AM on 02/17/2012
Of course! And, of course, you're suggesting that Americans should ignore custom and run through the Taj Mahal in muddy boots. (Isn't absurd hyperbole great?)
02:54 PM on 02/16/2012
I just don't get it. Your a women that want's to be treated as one when you go to a public bathroom, but you dress like a boy and wear your hair like a boy? I guarantee you this would not be an issue if you grew your hair out a bit or wore a pair of "girl" jeans and maybe a nice top. Can't Jenni give you a makeover? Or, in your relationship are you supposed to represent the "boy" half?
03:53 PM on 02/16/2012
"Can't Jenni give you a makeover?" How embarrassing. Maybe you could at least progress past fifth grade grammar if you're going to spew that grow "your hair out a bit," girl jeans, "nice top," gender stereotype junk that has gotten this country out of competition in our evolving world.

Maybe it is the right thing to be more gracious when conforming to your host country's customs, but that should be the point here, not continuing to push the progressive members of our society--who have always been the ones keeping the US competitive internationally, and here I am not just speaking of social progressives, but of pioneers in science and culture--to conform with those who can barely contribute in a positive way to our youth.
08:01 AM on 02/17/2012
I don't think it is embarrassing for one girl to ask another for a makeover, they seem to do that all the time. I am not sure what you mean by fifth grade grammar, but sometimes simple statements are the best to get a point across. Hey, she can do what she wants, but don't complain about things you have control over. She doesn't necessarily look like a man, she just makes decisions that lend to that interpretation.

I think you are right here, she did nothing to grasp the cultural customs found in the countries she visited and made it a difficult trip for everyone based on the decisions she made. Jenni should actually be a bit embarrased by her.

Are you saying that the reason for US competitiveness internationally is because of the efforts of androgynous people? Ones that don't respect differing cultures enough to prevent such misunderstandings with regard to gender at public toilets? What?
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07:02 PM on 02/16/2012
I like my hear long and I'm not going to cut it just because long hair is traditionally "feminine". I still expect to be treated like a man, and will enforce that.
08:03 AM on 02/17/2012
Yes, but if you looked like a girl...that's an entirely different story. You couldn't blame others for thinking you were a girl if you looked like one and then had long hair to boot, now could you? That is your decision.

I am not saying she needs to adhere to all "stereotypes" but by doing certain things differently would sure help how others perceive her.
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Vintage59
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02:25 PM on 02/16/2012
It's always interesting to compare which human societies are more evolved than others. It's never a surprise to learn that more crowded areas care less about personal freedom and more about conforming.
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gerald4
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12:44 PM on 02/16/2012
"When in Rome, act as the Romans."

When you are in any foreign nation, do not offend their citizens by cross dressing as if you were in the USA where cross dressing is (more or less) tolerated.
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SecularJoe
If a belief gives you comfort then it is suspect
01:39 PM on 02/16/2012
She's not cross dressing. She's wearing blue jeans for crying out loud. When westerners travel they wear their western clothes. Why should she be any different?
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07:03 PM on 02/16/2012
"Cross-dressing"? Really? Girls can't wear jeans now?
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DrHopeful
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12:21 PM on 02/16/2012
There may be a change coming. I've used co-ed restrooms, in a monastery in Switzerland, at a university in Canada, for examples. There are also simple devices that enable women to pee standing up, helpful in the field or outdoors.
08:20 AM on 02/21/2012
Westminster College in Salt Lake City also has co-ed bathrooms and I loved it. My partner is also androgynous and often mistaken for a man, so this made life very easy for us - at least for the 2 days we were there for a conference.
03:43 PM on 03/06/2012
Agree. There is absolutely no reason for restrooms separated by gender. They should all be gender neutral.
11:46 AM on 02/16/2012
I'm sorry. I don't feel bad for you.
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TXanimal
Somewhere between Occam's Razor & Murphy's Law
11:10 AM on 02/16/2012
I had security called on me in the Omaha and DFW airports. In both cases, I had long hair, was wearing a girly-colored fitted shirt and earrings, and STILL got accused of being a man in a woman's bathroom. I'm a bodybuilder, so I guess they couldn't see past the arms.

The security guard in Omaha came in the bathroom, looked around and asked me if I'd seen a guy in there. I said it was probably me she was looking for me...she rolled her eyes and shared her disbelief at "people's ignorance". The security guard in Dallas responded much the same way, and actually chastized the "rat" for wasting her time.

Other times I've been confronted, a quizzical look is often enough to make people realize their mistake. To one particularly confrontational lady, I let my snarkasm get the better of me: "Ma'am, there's a line for the restroom. Do you honestly think I saw all these ladies waiting in line and assumed it was the men's room?". She didn't appreciate the giggles from the other waiting ladies, but at that point, I didn't care.

These days, I just don't care. Say what you want, think what you want, I'll let you know you're wrong...tactfully, of course :)
10:47 AM on 02/16/2012
Well you could always just cave and use the men's bathroom!
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08:46 AM on 02/16/2012
I would never tell you to change, nor should you ever change who you are. Be you and the world will get used to women who prefer not dress in flowers and have long hair. However, I presume the consequence of looking like a man is that people will react to you accordingly. Its an interesting observation, to see that you would get such a strong reaction from women, but in cultures where gender is so clearly defined, I understand their reactions. Muslim women, for instance, use the restroom not only to relieve themselves, but since they are only in the company of women, they may remove their hijabs to brush their hair or take care of other feminine needs, like talking with their friends about their men! Its not just using a stall, its a time to be in the privacy of other women, out of sight of men.
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Tony Sez
07:42 AM on 02/16/2012
There is another point about keeping the percieved man out of the women's restroom: physical safety for the women. And yet another: to protect women from the leering male gaze. Both real issues, I'm sad to say.
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PMJ79
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09:37 AM on 02/16/2012
Can you blame them for keeping what they think is a man out of the women's bathrooms? They have valid reasons for doing so.
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Erin84
11:44 AM on 02/16/2012
No actually, not real issues, but feel free to keep pretending.
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Tony Sez
08:04 AM on 02/17/2012
Erin, Perhaps you should accquaint yourself with the statistics of violence against women committed by men. It may surprise you to learn that many, many women are attacked by men! If you watch television, read a newspaper, or get your news online you may find several stories about it, daily. If you watch crime dramas--you will even find the subject dealt with there. Believe it or not, men can be dangerous to the health and well-being of women!! This may come as a shock to you, but the world has concluded that men can be dangerous to the health and well-being of women by accosting, harrassing, injuring, and raping them. They deal with the potential threat men pose to them constantly. So, someone who appears to be a man in a women-only space is rightly considered a DANGER to them and they respond accordingly. Wouldn't you? And the good men who intercept an apparant man in a women-only space respond accordingly. Wouldn't you?