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What Makes a Good Man? A Conversation With Mark Shriver

Posted: 06/15/2012 6:32 pm

In honor of Father's Day, actress Jennifer Garner spoke to Mark Shriver, senior vice president of Save the Children in Washington D.C. and author of the new memoir A Good Man: Rediscovering My Father, Sargent Shriver, about parenting and advocacy -- and how both make our world a better place.

Jennifer: You've called your book A Good Man, and I'm curious why you used that phrase for your father instead of a great man?

Mark: The great man is recognized for his achievements in the newspaper, on TV, at fancy galas. The good man can be great in that arena, too, but even greater at home, on the sidewalk, at the diner, with his grandkids, at the supermarket, at church -- wherever human interaction requires integrity and compassion. Dad was good because he excelled in the smaller, unseen corners of life. He insisted on greatness in every facet of the daily grind. There are a lot of so-called great men who aren't good human beings. Paradoxically, it's harder to be good than it is to be great.

Jennifer: Your dad wrote you letters almost every day -- what did that mean to you growing up?

Mark: He would often write and clip newspaper articles for my attention -- it could be a baseball box score or an editorial -- or a note with a book attached to it. Sometimes his letters discussed the previous night's dinner conversation, or sometimes they were updates on my mother's or sibling's activities. For me, it was a sign of his consistent unconditional love and interest in me. I just knew he cared and was thinking of me every day.

Have you noticed anything that you are doing with your family that is something your parents did or shared with you growing up -- like my dad's note writing?

Jennifer: My mother is a big believer in being responsible for your own happiness. She always talked about finding joy in small moments and insisted that we stop and take in the beauty of an ordinary day. When I stop the car to make my kids really see a sunset, I hear my mother's voice and smile.

What did you take away from your dad's life about what it means to be a father?

Mark: While writing this book, I thought a lot about my father's quiet acts of kindness and his patience -- and the unconditional love he showed us even when we made mistakes. I have tried to emulate those qualities but it's a daily struggle for me. I wasn't expecting any of these insights, any of these gifts, when I sat down to write about him -- I had no idea what I was doing but I am grateful for the entire experience.

What did you learn from your dad and mom that you found gave you particular way of seeing the world or a feeling of what you should be doing with your life?

Jennifer: My parents started with very little and were the only ones in their families to graduate from college. As parents, they focused on education, but did not stop at academics -- they made sure that we knew music, saw art and theatre and traveled -- even though it meant budgeting like crazy.

So much of your father's (and mother's) life was about service to others who were less fortunate, who lived with challenges; what kind of impact did that have on you?

Mark: He was the most outwardly focused person I have ever met. I don't recall him ever worrying about his legacy -- he was proud of his achievements, from serving on the Chicago School Board, to creating the Peace Corps, to leading the War on Poverty, to helping my mother grow Special Olympics, but he talked about the past only as a way to challenge us all to do more for the poor and the forgotten in the future. He was other-focused, not I-focused, and that is the message he gave in a speech to Yale's graduating class of 1994 -- break your mirrors, don't be so self-absorbed. That's the way he lived his life and that's how he challenged not only my immediate family but all those he encountered as well.

On a more personal level, reading and rereading Dad's words about helping others has inspired me to speak more forcefully about the childhood poverty crisis in this country. In the past, I had been more circumspect when discussing the fact that almost 25 percent of children in America live in poverty. Now, in my work for Save the Children, I tell it like it is: It's a disgrace and our elected officials, who often claim that our kids are our most important priority, are not putting our money where their mouths are. I hope more citizens will hold our elected officials responsible for their role in this crisis.

You do a lot of advocacy work for children in this country, particularly in the area of poverty; do you feel your parents were an influence in that choice? What do your children think of what you do or how do you talk to them about the work?

Jennifer: My parents are still an enormous influence in my life. I am lucky to have had an attentive, curious and loving dad and heart-smart, down to earth, gifted mother. They changed the outlooks of their own lives and have never forgotten the people and organizations that helped them dream bigger than their circumstances should have allowed.

I am proud to be a part of an organization that gives kids growing up poor in America the same boost my parents received. With our birth to five home visits and in school literacy programs, Save the Children is changing the future for thousands of kids and teaching them to dream big.

Our kids came to me with a portion of their earnings from a recent lemonade stand and asked me to send it to Save the Children to help kids who don't have books in their homes. They know that I am never sorry to leave when I have a trip to see our programs and I am proud that they are eager to be a part of it.

Happy father's day to my dad, Bill Garner. I love you.

And to the world's best -- Happy Father's Day, Ben.

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Photo: ©2010 David BurnettContact Press Images/ Nov 19: Jennifer Garner travels with Save the Children (Mark Shriver/Dir.) to West Virginia where she helps inaugurate a reading plan for young children. Home visit: the MAYES Family in Gallipois Ferry WVASchool visit at Ashton Elementary School, Ashton WVA
 
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In honor of Father's Day, actress Jennifer Garner spoke to Mark Shriver, senior vice president of Save the Children in Washington D.C. and author of the new memoir A Good Man: Rediscovering My Father,...
In honor of Father's Day, actress Jennifer Garner spoke to Mark Shriver, senior vice president of Save the Children in Washington D.C. and author of the new memoir A Good Man: Rediscovering My Father,...
 
 
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04:06 PM on 06/18/2012
Misleading title. The article states that Mark Shriver is the one whose father sent letters and notes to him daily, not Jennifer's.
03:35 PM on 06/18/2012
"What Garner's Dad Did for Her Daily" And yet another Huffpost gem. I can sympathize with poor Jennifer and her "daily." Women, in general, have monthlys. It must be very difficult having a daily. Thank goodness she had daddy to help her.
02:07 PM on 06/18/2012
I am looking forward to reading 'A Good Man'. Mr. Shriver was a trailer blazer and seemed to be charming, humble, super intelligent and most importantly a great father. In looking at the pictures in the book, you can tell he had great pride and love towards his children and wife just by his smiling face! I am always impressed when a man is an extraordinary, patient, plugged in father. Very special.
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BARBARAALA
IF ONLY CLOSED MINDS CAME WITH CLOSED MOUTHS.
05:04 PM on 06/17/2012
I never had perfect parents, especially my Father, He was an alcoholic until the last 11 years of his life and he tried his best to make up for the other years. My 6 siblings and I loved him, laughed at him and with him and we all aspired to be be as funny as he was and like him in his great ways.He died at 76 in 1985 and we all still miss him.
04:06 PM on 06/17/2012
I am sick of questions like, "what makes a good man?" Well, what makes a good human being?

I'm a father. Every day I remind my children that, sooner or later, the world will break them. Then we smoke a cigarette together before the bus arrives.

The worst thing our culture promotes is the illusion that things are swell. Grimms Fairy Tales is better for children than Curious George. In the real world, after all, that monkey would be dead.
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OSullivan
03:34 PM on 06/17/2012
What makes a good woman?
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10:36 AM on 06/19/2012
Nature. They are automatically good no matter how they turn about to be, what they do or what they say.
03:30 PM on 06/17/2012
What Makes a Good Man?

Personal honor.

A willingness to sacrifice everything that your children can get a good start.

Love.
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01:39 PM on 06/17/2012
Pretty rude for the interviewer to make this a focus on her life instead of the life of the person she was supposed to be interviewing. By the end, Mark Shriver's story essentially became an afterthought.
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07:35 PM on 06/18/2012
It's a 'conversation,' not an interview.
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tazmodious
Left Hand of Darkness
12:50 AM on 06/21/2012
Uh huh. OK, it was a "conversation."
09:15 AM on 06/17/2012
Every Father's Day morning, I drink three martinis and look at Goya's "Saturn Eating His Children." Keeps me sane for the rest of the year.
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13champlain
It is all good....range rover all wood
01:30 PM on 06/17/2012
awesome
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BARBARAALA
IF ONLY CLOSED MINDS CAME WITH CLOSED MOUTHS.
04:54 PM on 06/17/2012
Hoot!
08:34 AM on 06/17/2012
Great advice from a member of our country's most dysfunctional family.
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Hakulanni
As an Independent, I despise both parties equally!
09:44 AM on 06/17/2012
You had to vomit in the space, didn't you? Your teeth will rot from your bulimic politics...
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glockman
12:13 PM on 06/17/2012
I guess you've never really studied the history of the Kennedy family. You most likely simply buy into the well known Camelot version of events.
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Snmartinez
11:15 PM on 06/16/2012
I can't help but wonder how children of lesbian couples feel like during father's day or when they read comments like the ones here.. Do they feel like they're missing out on something?
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The Sullyman
07:54 AM on 06/17/2012
I don't know do the Iranians feel like something is missing on the 4th of July? Point is people make their own social norms.
09:08 AM on 06/17/2012
Not any more than all the unmarried people feel during all the ads and holidays that assume every adult is mated.
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Lolly55
10:43 PM on 06/16/2012
I couldn't find any place else to comment...my profile picture honors my father who was a WV Supreme Court Justice...I only wanted to comment on my profile but it was unavailable...he taught me everything about my political beliefs and being a Democrat...sorry to comment in the wrong place, but I wanted to honor my father and the picture I posted on my profile...
10:44 AM on 06/17/2012
glad you found a way to say what you felt. It is only the hate filled comments like "Cullenthebrave" wrote above that is unwarranted AND unwanted!
Take care Lolly55...
10:02 PM on 06/16/2012
Nice sentiments, those Kennedy's area always fascinating.

Curious about the ending.

Why differentiate between one's father and one's husband, I wonder? There is nothing to compare. One was her father. One was her children's father. Her children's father cannot be 'the best father' to her, bc he is not her father. He can be 'the best husband who is also a father'.

But why compare?

Each human being is so unique and each relationship rich with individuality. Comparisons take away from both and reveal someone who is unable to love unconditionally.

But perhaps that is just a moment in time, a mispoken cliche. A well-intended shout-out.

Happy Father' Day to all fathers and future fathers and those who use fathering as a verb to mentor children in healthy ways, like teachers and pastors.
05:21 PM on 06/17/2012
Maybe she meant world's best man, the interview is after all about what makes a good man and she probably ended it with the world's best meaning world's best man. Even if she meant world's best father I think she knows him more than anyone else does and sees him being a father everyday and thinks that he is being the best parent he can be. to their children and knows how hard he works to provide for his family and for them to be proud of him.
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09:19 PM on 06/16/2012
Thumbs up to Father's.