Gloria Estefan: "Like Coming Home, But Not to the Old Cuba"

Posted September 6, 2007 | 02:16 PM (EST)



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Her story reads like the plot of an old Hollywood musical.

Her father, José Fajardo, was the bodyguard to the wife of Cuban president Batista -- but when Gloria was just 16 months old, Castro's revolution forced the family to flee its homeland. José joined the United States Army and served as an officer in Vietnam, where he was exposed to Agent Orange. When he was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, ten-year-old Gloria became his nurse and looked after her younger sister while her mother worked.

At 17, Gloria sang a few songs at a wedding. Though shy, she came to life on stage; soon she was the singer of that band, the Miami Sound Machine. She got more than a job. In the spring of 1978, she graduated summa cum laude from the University of Miami; a few months later, on her 22nd birthday, she married the band's leader, Emilio Estefan, Jr.

The Estefans' musical vision was something new: a blend of disco, salsa and pop. With success, Gloria got top billing, then sole billing. But at the peak, a dramatic reversal -- a bus crash left her critically injured. Rehabilitation took a year.

By the '90s, the world had caught on to the Latin sound, and it was clear that Gloria Estefan was its muse. Now, at 50, she's the most successful crossover performer in the history of Latin music. And, with 90 Millas, a CD inspired by the songs her parents loved, she's come full circle.

The Estefans wrote the songs. They assembled the greatest supporting cast imaginable, starting with the giants of old: Johnny Pacheco, Candido Camero, Papo Lucca, Nelson Gonzalez, Cachao, Paqutio D'Rivera, Generoso Jimenez and Alfredo "Chocolate" Armenteros. Then they gathered the best of the new breed: Carlos Santana, José Feliciano, Arturo Sandoval, Giovanni Hidalgo, La India and Sheila E. This result is the kind of historically authentic but technically contemporary CD you'd expect from Ry Cooder, the world music impresario who organized and produced Buena Vista Social Club.

"90 Millas" should thrill Cubans, here and on the island. It will surely delight old fans. And for listeners like me, who tended to think of Gloria Estefan primarily as a singer who makes hit after hit after hit, it's a pleasant surprise to discover that she's a serious artist. That belated appreciation made me extremely interested in talking to her about this music.

Jesse Kornbluth: I've read that "90 Millas" is the CD that you were "born to make." Why?

Gloria Estefan: My family was musical on both sides. My father's family had a famous flautist and a classical pianist. My mother won a contest to be Shirley Temple's double -- she was the diva of the family. At 8, I learned how to play guitar. I used to play songs from the '20s, '30s and '40s in the kitchen for my grandmother.

After my dad was a prisoner in Cuba for two years, we moved to Texas, where I was the only Hispanic in the class. I remember hearing "Ferry Cross the Mersey," by Gerry and the Pacemakers, and thinking, "That had bongos and maracas -- that was really a bolero." And The Beatles song, "Till There was You".....also Latin.

I wrote poetry, which got me into lyrics. Stevie Wonder, Carole King, Elton John pulled me into pop. I started singing with a band -- just for fun -- when I was 17. And pretty soon, I was thinking I could sing pop in English as well as Spanish. And as you know, we did that and broke through. But we waited until 1993 to release Mi Tierra -- we wanted my fans to be ready for the traditional Cuban music. And then we kept adding: more Cuban influences, more Latin America. And, underneath it all, African drums and rhythm.

The concept of "90 Millas" starts with the sound of the '40s. We invited 25 masters of Latin music -- giants on the cutting edge of creation, musicians who pushed it out to the world, young Cuban artists and Puerto Ricans who are huge -- so we could blend cultures and generations. So it is like coming home, but not exactly to the old Cuba.

Kornbluth: Why did it take two years?

Estefan: Emilio and I like projects to breathe and grow. We started with a concept -- write songs, make demos, then let the guest stars listen to them and then affect the writing process. For José Feliciano, I had written a chorus and a bit of a melody. He started playing the chorus and ad-libbing. I went, "This is the shit! Forget my melody!" Carlos Santana worked just the other way. He wanted me to record a polished take of my singing first, so his playing could recreate my emotion.

Kornbluth: How emotional was this CD to write?

Estefan: I got goose bumps. Like in "Esperando," which is addressed to Cubans on the island. Those of us in America, we're like the bogeyman, but I wanted Cubans at home to know: Whatever happened doesn't matter. The future is for us to heal. And also: Because we're here, we latch onto any part of our culture.

Kornbluth: I can't tell: Is this a political record?

Estefan: Yes and no. Politics is life, so yes. But it's not specific. Saying that 90 miles haven't divided us sends a message about freedom for Cuba -- and for everyone.

Kornbluth: You were too young to remember life in Cuba. What do you know?

Estefan: My father rarely spoke of life before. About prison, he just said, "That man is a genius at PR." Castro would come to the jail in the middle of the night and ask the prisoners, "What are you doing here? Don't you see we're trying to do the right thing?"

The reason I'm not more political is because I have music. And from a young age, I needed it. After prison, my father came to America, joined the Army, fought in Vietnam -- and was exposed to Agent Orange. He died a slow, horrible death. Music was my escape.

Kornbluth: You announced that your 2004 tour was your last. But aren't you tempted to tour with this music?

Estefan: The 2004 tour hasn't ended! I still have to finish Latin America and Europe.

Kornbluth: Celia Cruz died before you recorded "90 Millas". Do you wish you'd started this project earlier so she could have been involved?

Estefan: We were good friends. Emilio did her first video; we wrote a song for her. I would have loved to have had her on this CD. But she was there. I felt her. That's the beauty of a legacy.

Kornbluth: How do we hear her in you?

Estefan: Celia was economical and tasty in her choices. And in the pocket like you wouldn't believe?

Kornbluth: "In the pocket"?

Estefan: It's a rhythm, from son music. To have it is to be locked in, like a tuned engine. Once you're in the pocket, you're free. That's why, for most of these songs, I sang and I sang until I had the emotion, then... one take.

Kornbluth: You do a duet with La India. I noticed, on your website, she's described as the heiress to Celia Cruz. That's very generous. Couldn't you just as legitimately claim that title -- especially after this CD?

Estefan: You can't give yourself a title! That's crazy! If I ever start talking like that, please put me out of my misery. I don't care if I'm 80, with my butt to my ankles, put me down.

Kornbluth: You were the first pop singer to perform for a Pope.

Estefan: And a woman at that. Apparently Pope John Paul II and his boys -- is that what you call them? -- loved one of my songs and thought I was putting spiritual messages in my music. I'm not religious as such. Dogma and I don't get along. They knew all that, but the Pope was celebrating 50 years as a priest, and he asked for me. Quite an audience -- bishops, cardinals, a handful of nuns -- and me, covered from neck to ankles.

Kornbluth: Would you like to be the first pop singer to perform in Cuba when Castro and his boys go?

Estefan: One of them. I know the list is huge. And it would be hard to pull off -- I'd have a lump as big as a tostone [fried green plantain] in my throat. But oh my God, what a dream -- it would be the height of my personal and professional career.

Kornbluth: I can understand having that as a target. The irony, for me, is that this is the most universal CD you've made. If I'm right about that, then "90 Millas" is yet another crossover for you -- into World Music.

Estefan: I can see that. The core is African rhythm -- half the world's music comes from that. The difference between our music and American blues: Cubans may have been slaves, but in Cuba, slaves became part of the family. They could buy their freedom. And these are island people. Island people are happier.

But, you know, in the '80s, when we released "Conga," wasn't that World Music? Everywhere we went, people got it. And why? The drums. So maybe all music is World Music, and the only question is: Do you like it?

Crossposted on HeadButler.com

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- marquis See Profile I'm a Fan of marquis

boitexas (See profile | I'm a fan of boitexas)
It reminds me of the nonsense here about reparations for slavery. Not gonna happen!

That comment reminds me of the Oxford Dictionary's definition of the word FART=To emit an evil wind from the anus. Clearly your mouth is where your...oh never mind...you would'nt get it .

Just a little historical perspective:
When the Carribean Plantocrats finally gave up slavery they were given 20 mill in compensation. Not a bad days pay for no work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 09/07/2007
- Greathornedlizard See Profile I'm a Fan of Greathornedlizard

She's not even a good musician! They had a good run but now they mail it in..
As for her insane politics, the people she represents had made themselves impossible at home in Cuba, they were run out and they went to Florida where they proceeded to make themselves impossible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 09/06/2007
- Scarabus See Profile I'm a Fan of Scarabus

Wow! Such hostility in these comments! What's the backstory that explains it? Can someone point the way to a source that explains the context?

For the record, I was born and grew up in Miami. When I was in high school, one of my good friends left school to return to Cuba to fight with Castro. Another good friend had supported Battista and fled Castro with his family. Though I don't pretend to understand the complexities of the politics of those born in Cuba or borne of persons from Cuba and now living in the U.S., I have at least experienced those complexities through my friends.

But really, folks, Estefan is talking about reaching out, overcoming differences, embracing cultural diversity. Does formerly African blood flow in her veins? Not having checked her DNA, I don't know. I imagine she herself doesn't know. But who cares?

The question is irrelevant. In the interview Estafan emphasizes her pride in recognizing and later embracing African percussive rhythms in the music she loves and creates, rhythms that help define a cultural heritage she wants to affirm and to share. That's what matters.

Surely it ought to be about finding ways to understand and reconcile differences, not about finding reasons to hate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 09/06/2007
- larry278 See Profile I'm a Fan of larry278

Buenas suerte, Gloria, y paz.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 09/06/2007
- RAMHaiti See Profile I'm a Fan of RAMHaiti


Toured Cuba twice with my band. The Cubans in Cuba are warm and generous. Many many Haitians in Cuba. Where there's sugarcane, you'll find haitians. The government felt a little creepy. Always looking around to see who's listening in. When the haitians would come visit us in our hotel, the military guys would show up.
Played with Celia Cruz in Port-au-Prince. Played with the Buena Vista folks in Petionville.
I'm not sure what to think about the Miami Cubans. First of all there's Krome Detention Center which is where the haitian refugees get sent. The cubans go to family or friends. Presidential elections get pretty strange down in Florida and I can't help but wonder if Miami Cubans aren't some how involved.... Good luck with the album.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 09/06/2007
- steamboat See Profile I'm a Fan of steamboat

So the Haitians do the hard labor in the sugarcane fields for very little wages. hmmm, sounds like exploitation of labor to me !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 09/11/2007
- freespeach See Profile I'm a Fan of freespeach

So her family were Batista loyalists. I'm not surprised given her anti-Castro efforts in the past.

I agree with Paco216 that Castro is not perfect. Though his people do have healthcare, and he has not started any immoral wars for oil lately...but he does have a secret service that Bush seems to be working hard to re-create here.

In any case, Estevan with her dad as a bodyguard for the wife of the corrupt dictator Batista is clearly a good little Republican supporting Miami Cuban.
All of the meddling and various trade embargoes against Cuba by the US has created hardship for the weakest Cubans, the elderly and children. From Reagan to W Bush, the Republicans have counted on Miami Cubans for their vote, and have not been disappointed.
And Republicans have payed back this support by dicking Cuba around at every turn, causing average Cubans to suffer for our efforts.

Don't count me as one of Gloria's fans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 09/06/2007
- steamboat See Profile I'm a Fan of steamboat

He hasn't ! You mean those weren't Cuban troops in Angola in the late '70's and '80's? He also sent troops to keep a ruthless communist dictator in power in Ethiopia. However, that regime has thankfully been over-thrown. Hey, as they say, the people in the end spoke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 09/11/2007
- Fletch17C See Profile I'm a Fan of Fletch17C

Paco, Estefan's involvement in the Elian situation really bothered me too. She and Garcia seemed to be telling Elian's father that he could only have his son back if he agreed to renounce Cuba and defect to the US, which pretty much amounts to political hostage taking.

I also thought she was a Bush supporter, but I'd like for someone check me on that. I can't remember where I'd heard it, so it's possible it may not be true. Anyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 09/06/2007
- boitexas See Profile I'm a Fan of boitexas

I heard a sample of her new CD on XM radio. It sounded wonderful. Can't wait to go buy it.

Whatever the revolution was or was not about in 1959 - people in Cuba today are poor, with limited options for the kind of life and freedoms we take for granted.

It is unfair to lay this bs at Gloria Estefan's feet.

It reminds me of the nonsense here about reparations for slavery. Not gonna happen!

As for the musica ! Sigue cantando Gloria !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 09/06/2007
- Nommo See Profile I'm a Fan of Nommo

Besides, that 'pocket'--she has never been there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 09/06/2007
- Paco216 See Profile I'm a Fan of Paco216

You can praise Estefan all you want but the fact remains she was actively involved in efforts to keep Elian Gonzalez in this country ILLEGALLY!

Until, and unless, she and Andy Garcia apologize I would never purchase or view any of their products.

Finally to uncover the relationship her family had with Batista suddenly makes everything clear. Castro may not be te best person in the world but Batista was a horrible SOB. If her father had any ethics at all he would have resigned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 09/06/2007
- SEQUOIABISON See Profile I'm a Fan of SEQUOIABISON

If I recall correctly she made a mandatory appearance in front of the house where Elian Gonzalez was staying.
After all this was happening in her neighborhood.

I do remember her simply telling her fellow Cuban Americans to stay calm and obey the law.
Nothing more then that, she did not voice an opinion for either side.

Castigating her for what the generation before her did is unfair.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 09/11/2007
- commonsenselives See Profile I'm a Fan of commonsenselives

"Castigating her for what the generation before her did is unfair."

My thoughts exactly. What is up with these Pro-Castro comments. Batiste was a "horrible SOB", but at least there was such a thing as a middle class when he was in power. Now it has all but dissapeared. And in case it escaped anyone elses attention, Castro is a horrible SOB too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 09/11/2007
- marquis See Profile I'm a Fan of marquis

I'm so sick of "white" Cubans talking about freedom, when the revolution was about correcting the racsim that they practised against the darker skinned-African- Cuban.
All the wailing from the Miami Cuban exile about the homeland, is the loss of Centuries of skin privelege. Batista was a thug and a bedfellow of the mob.

White Cubans are confused, lost and full of misdirected rage, just like the Dixiecrat just waiting...waiting...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 09/06/2007
- Veronica See Profile I'm a Fan of Veronica

Thank you! The Miami Cuban exile community consists of some of the most insufferable people on the face of the earth. I think some time in Darfur would give them some perspective, don't you? Fun game--if you want to see one of their heads explode, tell 'em you enjoyed "The Motorcycle Diaries." They become positively unhinged if you mention Che Guevara. I think it hits a nerve with them that an Argentinian was able to get through to the peasants their boy Batista shit on. Who knows, those people are nuts. Two words: Elian Gonzalez. *shudder* Yeah, this interview with the daughter of a Batista family bodyguard is positively heartwarming!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 AM on 09/08/2007
- commonsenselives See Profile I'm a Fan of commonsenselives

You call "Miami Cubans" insufferable but you wish they would go to Darfur?

Who, exactly, is being insufferable?

And then you take shots at Gloria for her FATHER'S occupation?

Kind of judgemental, yeah?

This article is about her music and what has inspired her as an artist. She is a wonderful performer and song writer who manages to be inspired by a country whose government shunned her. What is wrong with that?

Her previous albumn "Mi Tierra" was banned by Castro even though its message was positive and beautiful. He's divided his country almost as badly as Bush has divided this one.

My grandmother was born in Cuba and I believe her when she tells me that things under Bastiste were not perfect but they were much more secure and prosperous. The revolution ruined a lot of lives, and that is why Castro is hated. That and his being a selfish bastard. That too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 09/11/2007
- carpinter See Profile I'm a Fan of carpinter

For evidence of racism against darker skinned Afro-Cubans, go to the current Cuban government web site at http://www.cubagob.cu/ingles/default.htm and click on the "Government" tab and then in the left sidebar "Council of Ministers" and then click on "Members" and you will see only two (2) dark skins among the 50 top national leaders pictured there. Is this an improvement over Batista, who himself was not white?

From page 4 of Frank Argote-Freyre's biography, "Fulgencio Batista: From Revolutionary to Strongman" (brackets in original text) --> "His friends called him el indio [the Indian], and his enemies called him el negro [black man]," recalled his eldest son years later. . . When he first saw Batista, U.S. Military Attaché T.N. Gimperling believed he was achinado, meaning part Chinese, Indian, and Afro-Cuban.

Castro's revolution booted this black and red blood out of the President's chair and restored white guys to power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 09/07/2007
- steamboat See Profile I'm a Fan of steamboat

I ask four simple questions:

Why are all those rafts, intertubes, boats full of people coming to Florida and not in the other direction?

Why aren't the Cuban people allowed to chit-chat on computers and speak out like we do?

When Fidel use to give those four hour speeches of his, his parliament flunkies and generals would stand behind you. How come you only saw three black faces if everything is so equal?

Finally, why was it so awful that Elian Gonzales was in America and his dad wanted him home? Even though his mom gave up her life so he could have a better life. Everybody cried, "send him home, send him home". Yet, Madonna cuts a deal with big $$$ to get a child from Malawi and even though the boy's dad wants him home, nobody is saying a word. Why the double-standard?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 09/11/2007
- uheardme See Profile I'm a Fan of uheardme

Amen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 AM on 09/07/2007
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