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Two Hearts, One Culture: Is Dating Within Your Race the Key to a Successful Relationship?

Posted: 12/21/11 07:57 AM ET

The holidays have a way of putting a spotlight on one's love life. This year luckily (or unluckily) for me the attention has fallen on my sister and her new boyfriend, Ariel. I can recall as young girls my sister, Karla always said she would marry an Argentine soccer player -- turns out dreams do come true.

The probability of Karla actually ending up with a Latino seemed bleak after a series of serious relationships, all with gringos. That is, until she met Ariel, whom we all have agreed is the "one," as they say. The interesting ingredient this time around is their cultural connection. Could this be the key to their success as a couple?

Now of course there are other factors at play that make these two aisle-bound. A: Timing. Ariel and Karla share a desire for commitment and marriage at this stage in their lives. B: Compatibility. Culture aside these two have many common interests. C: Chemistry. Does that require an explanation?

While these factors bring these two together could sharing cultural traditions and similarities be the glue that keeps them together? Unlike in past relationships Karla can be more at ease knowing her partner Ariel doesn't bat an eye when he is served arroz con frijoles instead of candied yams for Thanksgiving. The familiar sound of the Spanish-speaking commentator screaming "GGGOOOOOLLL" fills her home just as it did when we were growing up. And perhaps most importantly she has a guaranteed partner in the preservation of her language and culture as they raise their family in the future.

Love has no guarantee however sharing a similar background does carry added benefits. After speaking with my guinea pigs/love birds I learned which factors are at play:

La Familia es Numero Uno

First and foremost, both definitively named similar family values as the #1 bonding benefit. The commitment and closeness each share with their family intensifies their bond as each partner earns points by cozying up to their respective families without extreme effort or complaint -- with each bond made theirs grows exponentially.

I personally experienced two serious relationships, both with gringos who were not close with their families. In fact, one lived on the opposite coast seeing them possibly one holiday a year. My weekly visits and necessity to celebrate every known holiday did seem to overwhelm my mate. I can recall one Mother's Day that reached Fools Rush In levels of discomfort. While my experience is certainly not true for all American families the familial ties do seem to be shorter amongst Latinos and immigrant families in general.

Habla EspaƱol

As much fun as it was to gossip about our boyfriends in Spanish as they sat at the very same table, it is even more fun to have someone get in on the action. Sure the language of love can be spoken by all -- that doesn't mean it'll get you through a dinner with my non-English speaking dad without an entire bottle of wine being consumed (solely by me) and perhaps a bit of disappointment at the end of the evening.

Meeting the parents is hard enough without having to climb the seemingly insurmountable obstacle of a parent who doesn't understand a word your boyfriend is saying. Ariel, the first Latino my sister or I have introduced, has eliminated this issue completely. Conversation flows freely putting us all at ease and off translator duties. Instead we listen to an incessant debate over the superiority of Maradona vs. Pele.

Latin Lovers Son Muy CariƱosos

One solid swirl around a salsa club dance floor and any woman could understand the appeal of a "latin lover." Everything from the language to their openly affectionate manner has a way of especially igniting a Latina's fire.

However the open affection does not just apply to the two of you in the relationship. You can expect to be hugged or touched when in the company of such passionate people. One of my ex's received a strong and (by his standards) excessively long hug from my mother and never got over it. I touched his father's arm once - I was reprimanded and also asked to refer to his parents as Dr. Joe and Dr. Jane, for seven years.

Of course the lack in similar cultural backgrounds cannot conclusively be the culprit in the demise of a relationship but it does seem to add the right spice. I think Ariel put it best when he said, "I believe that having similar backgrounds helps us to make our relationship stronger because it's not just a tango of two but a Latin dance of many."

In that case, can I get a caballero to the dance floor, por favor?!

 
 
 
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AntonioSaucedo
04:06 AM on 12/22/2011
Jesse:

What does really make two people fall in love? So many factors. According to your piece, in Karla and Ariel's case it was their similar cultural backgrounds. I'd be willing to bet that's not the only factor though. Probably not even the most important one.

And yes, you can get me on the dance floor anytime, but not to dance. I'm horrible at it.
01:21 PM on 12/22/2011
Antonio:

First of all I must say to jump right in there and call me "Jesse" is quite comfortable. (How Latin of you jk jk!!) hahahhahah

Second, seems you need to give my little tale a re-read as you will clearly find a paragraph where I list the factors that unite these lovers. (timing, chemistry, common interests...)

PS if we meet on the dance floor where people presumably go to dance what will we be doing? just askin' ;)
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AntonioSaucedo
07:29 PM on 12/22/2011
I guess we can always sing. I'm a bit better at that.
07:57 PM on 12/21/2011
(continued) I'm white. My fiance is from Ecuador. Our cultures are different, yes, but not once in our relationship has this caused a problem. I kiss her mom on the cheek just like I do my own mother. I hug her dad. Because I love her, I have zero reservations about adapting to her culture and traditions, nor does she falter when presented things unfamiliar to her. I watch novellas with her, and she listens to Led Zeppelin with me. We are happy, and for you to suggest that she'd be happier with a Latin man who would "ignite her fire" (as if I don't) speaks worlds about your bigotry.

You've misrepresented your culture, made ridiculous claims about mine, and done a disservice to social progress in general.
01:15 PM on 12/22/2011
Wow, Devin I've done nothing that you've claimed and it saddens me that you feel that way but I am glad to receive your comment. I think if you go back and re-read you will find these are personal accounts of my experience with one person and also on a couple which happens to be my sister. Also I say multiple times that these do not apply to all families.

I commend you and your family for having an open and loving nature where you can obviously grow through differences -- that has not always been my experience.

And for the record I'm sure you "ignite" your girl's fire my passionately ;) hahahhahahah
Happy holidays!
08:43 PM on 12/22/2011
Devin,
I agree with you, I have a similar experience, my girlfriend is from Honduras.

I don't go as far as watching a novela (not novella, a little spelling correction :) they are unwatchable for any man (latin or not, lol), but I watch soccer with her even though it isn't my favorite sport.

It's great you can share the same type of physical affection with her family as you do with yours, I think that's very important, regardless of the culture.

As you imply, the most important aspect of a relationship is closeness and communication, being open with one another, have a strong bond. If you feel that you don't "ignite her fire", best thing is to talk about it, not to hide your feelings. My friend Miguel always jokes to the girls, "once you go latino, that'll be your destino", but we can be as hot, regardless if you watch and enjoy novelas! lol

One thing that leaves me hanging a bit with your comment though, its the fact that Led Zeppelin is a British band, it doesn't entirely represent the "American culture", but I do get the point.

Now in regards to the article, I think it's quite funny and describes a relationship between two lovers, as the writer said, "of course there are other factors at play that make these two aisle-bound", so which ever way we think about it, love will always win :)
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SuperMex
06:57 PM on 12/21/2011
I am of the opinion that sh++ happens and somtimes you have no control over the matter. My wife is a Texan of Mexcian ancestry. I too am a Texan. I have a small family in the Lone Star state, but I can't say the same for my wife. Three of her six siblings are married to non-Latinos.

Half of our families children call themselves "brites." Brites: Part brown & part white.

So goes life.
07:08 PM on 12/21/2011
Totally SuperMex! I'm in full agreement!

Thanks for reading and happy holidays!
07:08 PM on 12/21/2011
PS I like the "brites" thing -- very cute!
05:08 PM on 12/21/2011
Hola Jessica! Your article really struck a chord with me. My husband and I, both half Latinos--he's Hawaiian/Mexican and I'm Chinese/Argentinean--dated outside before we met and it does make a huge difference. I think the more similarities you have, i.e. education, ethnicity, culture and in our case, the mixed race experience, the better. These shared similarities, coupled with love, serve to bond you to one another when life gets hard.
06:00 PM on 12/21/2011
Hola Beautifulday!

Thank you so much for your comment and for reading! I completely agree! The more you have in common -- the easier relationships are. Not love but relationships; the heart wants what it wants. But it doesn't always make a successful relationship.

Please keep reading and congratulations on your wonderful relationship!
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BlairCase
05:02 PM on 12/21/2011
La Familia also was once Numero Uno for us gringoes. We grew up thinking of first, second and third cousins as part of the immediate family. But our parents wanted us to "get ahead," so they sent us to college. We rearded them upon graduation by moving away in search of the best paying jobs and career advancement. Now the younger generation of cousins see each other once a year, usually at Chrisrmas time. I see the same thing happening to Hispanic American families as they work their way up the economic ladder. Hispanics divorce rates are already slightly higher than non-Hispanic white birth rates.
03:55 PM on 12/22/2011
This ubiquitous claim that Latin people have stronger family values than white people is particularly insipid. The people who usually repeat it seem to think that self-appointed degrees in sociology are enough to justify it. I'd like to see some hard evidence from studies performed by qualified professionals that support this assertion, but nobody seems to have any.
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BlairCase
04:47 PM on 12/21/2011
Most dictionaries list "gringo" as "offensive" or "disparaging." I'm suprised Huffington Post would permit its use. On the Texas/Mexico border, "Anglo" is the term most commonly used to avoid having to say "non-Hispanic white." I suppose the author dissaproves of any marriage that doesn't work to perserve language and culture. At least, she doesn't the headline writer's blunder by confusing ethnicity with race.
05:16 PM on 12/21/2011
In NYC-Anglo is completly unacceptable!
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BlairCase
05:33 PM on 12/21/2011
Technically, "Anglo" refers to the Anglo-Saxons, the Germanic tribe that overran and occupied England. (Most non-Hispanic white Americans are of Geman or Irish descent.) However, Merriam Webster, along with most other dictionaries, includes the following defnition of "Anglo:" a "white inhabitant of the United States of non-Hispanic descent." So, it's not incorrect to describe non-Hispanic whites as "Anglos." (I realize it seems odd to refer to Al Pacino as an "Anglo.") However, I prefer "Anglo" to "non-Hispanic white," even though I'm primarily of Scots-Irish descent. Who wants to be defined as what they are not?
06:07 PM on 12/21/2011
I chose the title as such in order to insight the discourse that we're having now. But the topic is lighthearted and based on my personal experience. It's certainly not a political statement. The term "gringo" was never been used in a derogatory manner and if I had a nickel for every time I read an article that used an offensive term for a Latino I would be made of money. That doesnt make it it right or wrong. Its simply a commonly used term used in jest (in my experience) and the article is intended to have a comedic angle.

I hope you will keep reading and thank you for your comment!
03:57 PM on 12/22/2011
I think you mean "incite," not "insight." You're a professional writer?
06:02 PM on 12/22/2011
You got me, "DevinRiley!" LOL. You are absolutely right. I will quit writing immediately.

Thank you for reading and for your comment!

Best,
Jessica
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Count of Anjou
Fiscal Conservative & Taoist
02:27 PM on 12/21/2011
Hey, Jessica, LATINO is NOT a race, it is an ethnic group.
06:08 PM on 12/21/2011
I know. But it got you to read didn't it ;)

Thanks for your comment!
07:25 PM on 12/21/2011
If the only way you can get people to read your article is to make yourself sound ignorant (which I suspect you didn't do intentionally, as you claim), then perhaps you should consider a new profession.
02:23 PM on 12/21/2011
I have to observe that if your fathers mother had felt the same way as you, you would NOT be with us at all. Also why doesn't your father spricht Deutsch? I guess that assimilation is only good for those who are not Hispanic, not the other way around.
06:11 PM on 12/21/2011
My grandfather came to Ecuador around the time of the second world war. he met an Ecuadorian woman and had my father along with four other children. he was raised in ecuador away from german culture and influences. it would have been my grandfather's duty to preserve the language and culture but he did not.

one of my uncle's however did move to germany and lived there for many years after joining the military. His daughters-- my two cousins still live there and embrace their german upbringing and culture.

thank you for your interest and thank you for reading!
07:23 PM on 12/21/2011
Your grandfather was lucky since he would have been arrested during WWII had he not married a citizen of Ecuador since all German nationals were arrested and interned. Many of them were shipped to the US camps.
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cmr86
Reality. Progressively-based.
12:12 PM on 12/21/2011
Well, isn't this article insular and completely insulting.
12:27 PM on 12/21/2011
the way I see it, race or ethnicity shouldn't matter. Not even language. I'm hispanic [Mexican] and I've brought home a moroccan guy [that spoke very little English] to meet my family. I have never been involved with another hispanic, let alone another Mexican--and it has nothing to do with race or preference. I just happen to fall for people who are different, who speak another language or grew up in a different culture. I personally feel that if my family can't accept someone because they are not hispanic or don't speak spanish [or english] then that is too freakin bad, they will get over it.
01:07 PM on 12/21/2011
Thank you so much for your comment and for reading my article. I agree wholeheartedly with your comment! I myself have only once dated a Latino (Mexican) who was lovely-- you might want to give it a try. ;)

But certainly the only thing that will guide you is your heart. But it is sometimes interesting to explore relationships within these contexts, no? If at least to "give 'em something to talk about."
11:20 AM on 12/21/2011
i date a woman, not her family.
01:10 PM on 12/21/2011
Thank you for your comment Jack and for taking a sec to read my playful story. I think you've got the right attitude here ;)

Please keep reading and happy holidays!
mira chancleta
C'mon, there's NO "La Tino" race
11:19 AM on 12/21/2011
Wow!
It is unbelievable that we are still being subjected to articles about "latinos as a race".
And of all places, but in reference to the South American country with the highest percentage of European-descended people.
Seriously, shocking!
A suggestion for Ms. Hippe,
If you can stop yourself long enough from asking Ariel where his donkey is, and instead ask him about his family, I will bet he is 1, perhaps 2 generations away from family in Italy, Spain, Germany, France, Sweden, England, Ireland...to name a few of the homelands of MOST Argentinians.
Please WIKI this NOW! Before you put your cloven hoof in your mouth at the Christmas dinner table...just a suggestion.
01:03 PM on 12/21/2011
I am a Latina and I do not find myself offended by the word "race." Perhaps you can explain why Yes, Ariel indeed has family that are from Russia ( one generation) and my father is half German. Ariel considers himself Latino first and foremost as he was born and raised in Argentina. I know all of Ariel's family, personally and I think we're all in agreement that certain cultural bonds are certainly at play between lovers.

I don't understand the donkey comment but I believe that is what is insulting but I will WIKI this NOW as well. ;)

Thank you for reading! The piece is is based on my personal experience and observation -- its certainly not a political statement nor should it be considered as such.
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Count of Anjou
Fiscal Conservative & Taoist
02:38 PM on 12/21/2011
I think you missed mira's point. Latinos/Latinas can be of any color, including white, because they are NOT a race of people, they are, in fact, an ethnic group (European, for instance).
mira chancleta
C'mon, there's NO "La Tino" race
04:39 PM on 12/21/2011
Jessica,

First of all, I did not insert the words"dating within your race" into your title. And I don't take offense at the sight of the word either.

Having established that fact, now let's go to the next "academic" hurdle...

"Race", "Culture" & "Ethnicity" are NOT synonymous nor interchangeable terms historically, socially, sociologically or anthropologically.

Where one person's "culture" begins and another person's "ethnicity" ends is anybody's guess, BUT "race" is a fairly agreed upon concept on a global scale for most people, no matter how many (in the States) will claim it is just a "social construct". And typically, this "race" denial claim is made from behind the gates of coincidentally all-white community.

Having many friends of various racial backgrounds from many Latin American contexts, they (and I) are all a bit weary of hearing about the fictional "latino race", which has never existed in the history of man.

Having written, lectured and authored articles on the dynamic of race in the Western Hemisphere, I am more than a bit "aware" of all the pot-holes in the cosmic road to "latino" race nirvana and I try not to look the other way, when I see someone skipping down the road as they smile into the sunlight, so they don't go "boom" in their glee.

Your article is commendable, but we can all learn more from a treatise where the vocabulary is specific and not open to the interpretation of lesser, not-so-informed minds,

Thanks...
11:17 AM on 12/21/2011
Dating within..look at Appalachia..
mira chancleta
C'mon, there's NO "La Tino" race
04:10 PM on 12/21/2011
..and look deeper into those rusting trailers,
but first get past the Pit Bulls.
06:18 PM on 12/21/2011
Hahahah thank you, Pedro. I will certainly look into this.

Thanks for reading!
11:09 AM on 12/21/2011
This is interesting. I obviously agree that compatibility of values is what really draws people to each other and makes or breaks relationships, but race is probably not the best guide for choosing a mate. Ethnicity certainly plays a role and class...but gringos can certainly embrace all things Latino and Latinos can also embrace all things gringo...so it's really just about finding a mix of values that you agree on and embracing those together...no matter your race.
01:08 PM on 12/21/2011
Hello Chantilly!
Thank you for your lovely comment and for taking a moment to read my article.

I think you hit the nail right on the head! You can find balance between cultures and even grow exponentially by sharing all the things that make you both unique.

Please keep reading and happy holidays!