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Governor Rick Perry Please Lobby the Super Committee to End Permanent Energy Subsidies

Posted: 10/29/11 03:13 PM ET

In August, environmentalists Friends of the Earth and Public Citizen partnered with climate deniers at the Heritage Foundation to produce the non-partisan Green Scissors report which outlines wasteful government subsidies totaling $380 billion over the next five years.

Separately, in August, the twelve members of the Congressional "super committee" were announced. The super committee is charged with finding at least $1.2 trillion in deficit reduction measures over 10 years.

The super committee deadline: November 23rd.

Cutting $380 billion in permanent subsidies immediately for mature industries like coal, natural gas, oil, and ethanol -- immediately gets the super committee to 25 percent of its goal.

This past June, the Senate sent a strong signal to end the main corn ethanol tax credit, known as the VEETC, and the ethanol import tariff.

Subsidies are necessary in the incubation phase, but oil is a "mature" industry; and ethanol and solar are "proven and established" industries. As industries prove and establish themselves, and then mature, subsidies should be retired. So, now it is time to end permanent federal subsidies for oil drilling and phased out for solar and wind technologies.

Luckily Governor Rick Perry, and Congressman Ron Paul have stepped up to put the end of subsidies in the national conversation. Perry announced his energy plan on October 14, entitled: "Energizing American Jobs and Security." It called for an end to subsidies.

Perry's energy plan website states: "As part of a broader tax reform strategy, I will also ask Congress to eliminate direct subsidies and tax credits that distort the energy marketplace. My plan levels the playing field."

And, according to Ron Paul, "We should start by ending subsidies for oil companies. And we should never, ever go to war to protect our perceived oil interests. If oil were allowed to rise to its natural price, there would be tremendous market incentives to find alternate sources of energy. At the same time, I can't support government 'investment' in alternative sources either, for this is not investment at all."

And Mitt Romney agreed in the October 18 Republican debate that subsidies should be pulled back.

Newt Gingrich piled on in Iowa on October 24 saying, "I don't want to pick a fight with any of my good friends who are running, but I get a little weary of people who represent oil, which has consistently had tax subsidies for its entire history, explaining that they're really not sure about these subsidies. Notice it's always these subsidies. It's never the ones down there. I notice that when Senator [Tom] Coburn [R-OK] introduced a bill that was anti-ethanol, he didn't include subsidies for gas and oil, because as an Oklahoman, that would be suicidal. So I just think we ought to have a fair playing field."

Now, getting back to the Super Committee, I have taken a random sampling of votes over recent years of each committee member to see if each supports subsidies.

My scorecard revealed a random sampling of 34 votes, with 19 for subsidies. It means that much of the time, some interest group is pushing our government officials to underwrite an energy cost whether it is a fossil fuel, or renewable energy source.

But, the other point is that our legislators are spending thousands of hours debating whether to spend money to give an unfair advantage to one energy source over another. And the fight seems to be over renewable fuels versus fossil fuels.

Shouldn't scientists figure out which fuels are safest and then turn them over to the free marketplace to determine which ones are liked by consumers?

Now that Governor Perry has insisted on the end of energy subsidies, can he take the lead over the next few weeks to get the Super Committee to immediately extract $380 billion in wasteful permanent subsidies out of the budget? I hope so - and I am with him on that.

This is no longer a left wing, right wing argument. We don't need votes on issues that are on one side of the aisle or the other. We need votes like we had on ethanol subsidies in June. We want to ask -- "is this how we want to spend our tax dollars?"

The example is in fact, the Green Scissors report. It had groups that are polar opposites like Friends of The Earth, and the Heritage Foundation to come together to agree on the end of permanent subsidies.

Their interest is not in protecting interest groups -- rather it is protecting America's budget and environmental future. If you are a Tea Party fan, you should love the level playing field and reduced budget deficit. If you are an OccupyWallStreet person then you should be happy that the permanent subsidies set up for the 1 percent are going away so that the 99 percent can participate.

Plus, as Governor Perry and Newt Gingrich have said, we need to level the playing field. The right technologies and solutions to fuel our electricity and transportation needs will win a free market society.

So, it is my hope that Governor Perry, Governor Romney, Ron Paul and others who are pushing the debate to "end permanent subsidies" push it to the super committee now. It is $380 billion that can be put to better use.

 
In August, environmentalists Friends of the Earth and Public Citizen partnered with climate deniers at the Heritage Foundation to produce the non-partisan Green Scissors report which outlines wasteful...
In August, environmentalists Friends of the Earth and Public Citizen partnered with climate deniers at the Heritage Foundation to produce the non-partisan Green Scissors report which outlines wasteful...
 
 
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03:04 PM on 11/08/2011
A lot of posters here on going down the path that we've been on, arguing about which energy source should be subsidised and for how long. Of course every subsidy has a constituency and a political network in D.C. and once established, they become permanant. As Ron Paul points out, oil subsidies include the cost of military interventions and occupations on the other side of the planet. We cannot measure what the natural price of oil is here or anywhere else on the globe. This is a huge distortion of market forces paid for by debt and inflation. We really won't know how alternative energy sources compete in the market until this mother of all subsidies is eliminated. Instead of arguing about which subsidy we need, let's eliminate all subsidies/corporate welfare including the military ones.
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William S. Becker
12:26 PM on 11/03/2011
Two common energy themes among politicians are that "everything should be on the table" and "we should level the playing field". Given the urgency of making the transition to clean energy, both statements are wrong. Rather than good policy, they are statements designed to avoid hard choices. Some forms of energy -- those that cause most greenhouse gas pollution -- should be taken off the table as rapidly as possible. We don't need to subsidize all forms of energy equally: we need to tilt the playing field in favor of clean, low-carbon, sustainable energy resources to move them into the economy as quickly as possible. Whether our priority is national security, reducing the trade deficit, getting off foreign oil, cleaning the air, stabilizing the climate or creating viable new and competitive industries, it's clearly in the national interest to expedite the development and market penetration of sustainable energy technologies. I agree that energy subsidies should be temporary. The clock should have run out long ago for fossil and nuclear energy. As for renewable energy technologies, they should be weaned from taxpayer subsidies, too, once those subsidies have been sufficient in size and duration to help them help them reach market viability.
05:35 PM on 11/01/2011
Every time I read a piece on energy subsidies I post this information from EIA (not the CATO institute). It came out in June or July of this year.

Ethanol is the largest single recipient of federal subsidies and it is a tax incentive, not R&D.
Renewables also receive production tax credits and loan guarantees¬. On tax subsidies, in 2010, renewables received over $8.2B, coal, oil gas, nuclear combined received $4.1B, efficiency $4 B. Of the $8B for renewables¬, $5.7 B went to ethanol, only $1.5B to a production tax credit. Over the history of the DOE, nuclear is the largest recipient of R&D funds BY FAR, followed by coal and efficiency¬, renewables then oil and gas at a very distant last.

Federal subsidies per unit of energy produced ($ per megawatt hour):

Gas $0.64
Coal $0.64
Nuclear $3.14
Geothermal $12.85
Wind $56.29
Solar $775.64
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Jigar Shah
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11:19 PM on 11/01/2011
As you can read it depends on who is asking. Have you read the GreenScissors report or just the ones you like?
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2011/08/01/01greenwire-energy-subsidy-battle-reignites-as-debt-deal-p-79083.html
12:38 AM on 11/02/2011
This story in the NYT only reports accusations by environmentalists, it does not report on the content of the work in question.

The only thing in the story that raises an issue about the integrity of the information other than some quotes from advocates and implied bias because of the party if the requesters of the EIA analysis (these types of requests routinely come to EIA from both parties in Congress), is this unsupported sentence -- "But the terms of that report and the current GOP-requested sequel included only energy-specific benefits with a measurable budget impact, which excludes many of the oil and gas tax benefits unsuccessfully targeted this year by President Obama and many in his party."

The NYT does not provide supporting information for that claim, does not source the claim, does not interview anyone at EIA, and offers no evidence that the reporter actually read the study.

I, unlike the Times' reporter, have actually read the EIA report and you might benefit from doing so yourself, rather than relying on news stories as your source of information -- a highly questionable avenue for someone who claims to be a visionary.

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01:00 AM on 11/02/2011
I am not surprised given how you describe yourself, that you believe the GreenScissors report (funded entirely by advocates), over EIA, an independent unbiased, highly regarded agency in the federal government, managed by the Obama administration right now I might add. Please stop relying on advocacy pieces and read some real analysis.
05:30 PM on 11/01/2011
Nuclear and ethanol are the largest recipients of federal subsidies
11:59 PM on 10/31/2011
Ending all fossil fuel subsides! Now there's a concept! :)
10:40 AM on 10/31/2011
Please provide us with details of what subsidies the oil and gas industry actually receives. Though - a tax deduction for cash expenditures related tot he cost of operations is not a subsidy, except in the eyes of a progressive who believes that the oil industry is not entitled to any deduction for the cost of operations.
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Jigar Shah
Visionary on accelerating Climate Change Solutions
02:10 PM on 10/31/2011
Here is a detailed list confirmed by Cato, Heritage Foundation, and Heartland Institute:
http://greenscissors.com/news/green-scissors-2011/
05:16 PM on 10/31/2011
page 9 of the PDF -

The domestic manufacturing deduction applies to all manufacturing companies domestic operations - this deduction was added during the bush administration shortly after 9/11 to help spur the economy. This has the effect of simply lowering the corporate tax rate from 35% to approx 33%.
The percentage depletion in excess of basis for non-integrated oil companies is a non cash expense that probably should be eliminated.

However, all other expenses listed in the schedule related to the oil and gas industry are normal operating costs and should be deductible. To claim that a tax deduction for operating costs - out of pocket expenditures are a subsidy is quite a misrepresentation of the facts.
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AtlanticEastWest
"We have met the enemy and he is us."
09:20 AM on 10/31/2011
I am always amazed that there are subsidies for oil and gas, what arguments do the proponents of these subsidies have in their favor does anyone know them ?
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Sunwyn Ravenwood
Farewell my friends, time to go...
06:27 AM on 10/31/2011
Here are a few other ideas to put before the Supercommittee:

Get rid of all agriculture subsidies.

Transfer Food and Food Safety programs from the Dept. of Agriculture to the Dept. of HHS and abolish the Dept. of Agriculture.

Transfer the Student Loan Program to the Dept. of Labor and abolish the Dept. of Education.

Sell the TVA and the 4 Power Administrations.

Turn over all National Forests and BLM lands to the states where they are located.

Turn over all Indian Reservations to the Native Tribes and abolish the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

Close down all our bases overseas except for a few weather stations and refueling stations for ships and planes. Bring home all our troops from Afghanistan, Germany, Italy, Japan, Korea and the more than 100 other countries where they are stationed.

Cut the Pentagon budget by 10% a year until it reaches $360 billion and cap it at that amount.
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situationcritical
SuperMegaUltraUberLiberal
04:12 AM on 10/31/2011
Rick Perry can't even speak in whole sentences, and you want him to do what? Good luck with that.
11:45 PM on 10/30/2011
We aren't spending our tax dollars. We're spending our great, great grandchildrens' tax dollars.
BlackbirdHighway
Brawndo's got electrolites!
08:59 PM on 10/30/2011
As electric cars catch over the next few years we are going to see a big push to get rid of oil subsidies. When you no longer need to visit a gas station you get really very annoyed that politicians want to give your tax dollars to oil companies.
11:45 PM on 10/30/2011
You'll still need oil subsidies, because most electricity is generated by oil (or coal).
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Joffan
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.
05:22 AM on 11/01/2011
Most by coal. Some by gas. Very little by oil.
04:19 PM on 10/30/2011
What planet does Shah come from? Does he sincerely believe that Rick Perry would eliminate government subsidies for oil and natural gas companies? What is the source of Texas' fabulous economic miracle? Who pays Perry's campaign bills?

Rick Perry is a puppet to the Koch Brothers. Texans love their oil companies, even though fracking is sucking up their limited water supply. So asking Rick Perry to end subsidies to oil companies is to say the least rather naïve.
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Kris79
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06:45 PM on 10/30/2011
I absolutely agree.
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Jigar Shah
Visionary on accelerating Climate Change Solutions
09:51 AM on 11/01/2011
I also agree, that is why I am pushing him. he is the one who said it in his Energy Plan. I am just challenging him to put his time where his mouth is.
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Kris79
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02:57 PM on 10/30/2011
I like this part of the statement-"We should start by ending subsidies for oil companies. And we should never, ever go to war to protect our perceived oil interests. If oil were allowed to rise to its natural price, there would be tremendous market incentives to find alternate sources of energy."

But the federal govt does a lot of good research...the DoD does amazing research. Basic scientific research (finding new markers, new and better understanding of mechanisms of disease processes) conducted at Universities is funded by the federal govt.

Pharmaceutical companies take that knowledge and screen a bunch compounds they made to determine if it may be effective in treating a condition. To get a drug to market takes at least 10 years and God knows how many dollars to bring a drug to market and 1 out 10 never see the light of day. The FDA also ensures that the drug is actually safe and better than older treatments if there is a comparison. Nothing is perfect I believe that research is very important and we all have a stake in finding treatments and cures for diseases because they can strike anyone at any time.

But the Koch brothers should lead the way in the true "unfettered capitalism" the they are asking for in society. It would be painful but would accelerate the increase in demand for renewable energy. Oil is our insulin and we are all Type I diabetics who have to have it.
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Mr Hankey
Kucinich / Sanders (Democratic Socialist)
12:34 PM on 10/30/2011
Bernie Sanders has already been saying this for over a year. Glad everyone is finally catching up.
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Kris79
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03:08 PM on 10/30/2011
I think we should let Sanders and Paul run the country...they both have good ideas and they would keep each other in check!
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
05:14 AM on 10/31/2011
Sanders might so OK, but if we look back to 1933, there is a very prescient historical warning about allowing a weird little man with vociferous supporters and inexplicable popular to run a country.
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BeerLover
Carpe Diem!
11:42 AM on 10/30/2011
Cut farm subsidies. Especially those giving farmers money chemicals to poison our food system.

I know we all have to keep DuPont and Alcoa in business....but it's time to get rid of the poison factor in our food chain.

Buy local or grow your own.