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Dear Michele Bachmann: Gay Rights Are Not "Frivolous"

Posted: 08/11/11 02:06 PM ET

When asked about gay rights in an interview with New Hampshire's Concord Monitor, presidential candidate Michele Bachmann refused to answer. "I'm not involved in light, frivolous matters," she said. "I'm not involved in fringe or side issues. I'm involved in serious issues."

Waterlogged in said seriousness up to her glassy eyeballs, Bachmann is also filled with a hubris that goes through the roof, adopting a novel way of campaigning: answering only questions she feels like answering, as if her past record doesn't exist. She first debuted this modus operandi while being interviewed by the likes of Chris Matthews, who became so visibly aggravated with her non-answers he asked if she had been hypnotized. Repeating this technique with every interviewer, she just bulldozes through her vapid prepared remarks, her eyes ever more glazed until resembling a resident of Village Of The Damned.

For someone not involved in "fringe" issues like gay rights, she sure has spent a great deal of her political career obsessed with said fringe issues, including leading the charge for a constitutional amendment banning marriage equality in Minnesota. She has made inflammatory anti-gay statements at every available opportunity, including whoppers like "It's part of Satan I think to say that this is "gay." It's anything but gay," and "If you're involved in the gay and lesbian lifestyle, it's bondage. It is personal bondage, personal despair and personal enslavement."

In 2009, Bachmann helped raise funds for You Can Run But You Cannot Hide International, a Christian youth ministry in her district founded by Bradlee Dean, an anti-gay, Obama hating preacher so extreme his invocation at the Minnesota legislature embarrassed even Republicans. Dean makes Rev. Jeremiah Wright look like Julie Andrews.

Bachmann and her husband, Dr. Marcus Bachmann, own the clinic Bachmann and Associates, a Christian counseling service that offers "Biblical world-view counselors," who "reach out and try to bring the medicine of the Gospel to come and heal people." The clinic offers "reparative therapy" for gays, a widely discredited technique whereby the patient attempts to "pray away the gay," among other therapies. Proponents of these techniques have carted out a few testimonials from satisfied customers who claim to no longer be gay through the power of Christ, but most experts agree that they have merely changed their behavior, not their actual orientation. Michele refuses to answer questions about this, saying (and I'm paraphrasing), "I am running for president, my husband is not, our business is not, and I will be happy to answer questions that won't remind you of my record as one of the most virulent homophobes on the planet."

She attends church services where preachers make anti-gay sermons, and speaks to anti-gay broadcasters with a long history of idiotic rhetoric. And she practically wet herself to be the first to sign anti-gay pledges proffered by the Iowa Family Council and National Organization for Marriage, vowing to appoint conservative anti-gay justices and basically do everything possible to ruin the lives of gay people.

At some point, Bachmann is going to have to realize that she is the one who can run but can't hide from her record, no matter how hard she tries to maintain a Stepford Wife persona who only answers what she wants. And here it's her anti-gay views themselves, as well as those of the right wing hate groups she endorses, that are the very issues that have become "fringe," not the other way around. The vast majority of Americans approve of gay equality, with a slight majority endorsing marriage equality. It is Bachmann who is on the fringe, and she is in for a rude awakening when she realizes it, if she ever does, which is doubtful. She doesn't realize much, except the right wing nonsense she and her followers espouse.

And any gay person would be happy to clue Bachmann in that their rights as citizens, and their lives, are not "frivolous" or "side" issues. She insults millions of Americans and their families with statements like these, proving that not only is she willfully ignorant of the lives and needs of Americans, she doesn't even represent mainstream Christians, most of whom are not gay-hating nutbags.

It is Bachmann's own presidential campaign, and entire political career, that is frivolous.

 

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Ms NYC
Republicans for Voldemort
02:20 PM on 08/15/2011
What was it Jon Stewart said about her Newsweek cover? Something like, we don't need an ugly picture of her when it's her words that show the ugly inside her.
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indigotrustee
GOP The Party Of Greedy Old People.
11:35 PM on 08/14/2011
Gay marriage should not be a Federal issue, it should be a state issue.
Why can't Bachmann mind her own business?
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AdamWest1313
Hardcore Agnostic
01:37 AM on 08/15/2011
No, it shouldn't. If it is a state issue, then what happens when a homosexual married couple moves to a different state, one that does not recognize their marriage? What happens if they are to divorce in said state?

Just make it legal federally and everyone can mind their own business.
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Rogr1667
You're not the boss of me
02:30 AM on 08/15/2011
Your stance against Bachmann is logical, but your opinion on gay-marriage being a state issue isn't.
Civil rights should never-ever-ever be left up to the majority of each state.
Imagine all the people who wouldn't have many or no rights at all had it been that way.
The issue of gay-marriage is no differant from interracial marriage , racial equality, women's rights, et al .
Majority rule isn't supposed to be part of the American way of life. It's unconstitutional.
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sf1000000
Screw being nice its highly overrated
11:31 PM on 08/14/2011
The reason MB and RP are so centered on gay rights is because they cannot do anything about the bigger problems we have in this country. They have no ideas, NONE. Perry knows that his "miracle" in Texas is all smoke and mirrors, and will never stand up to the public light that media is going to shine on it. MB, has never had an idea in her empty head since..day 1. The light bulb bill Michele? I bet if we shined a bright light in you left ear, it would pass right through that empty think you call a head. These 2 people have nothing to offer. Not an idea, plan nor can they speak intelligently about any of the important issues. They are nothing but 1 lined comments made to continue to stir the pot. As long as they continue the big LIE they dont have to explain it. but like musical chairs the music does stop and then they both will turn into nothing more than smoke that disappears when you open a window. Palin is smart enough to stay on the side lines, she is to busy collecting money..
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sf1000000
Screw being nice its highly overrated
11:14 PM on 08/14/2011
Frankly, to hell with heterosexuals, I am tired of pay taxes for THEIR Special rights. Mrs Bachmann said this am on Meet the Press, that the gay issue was a defining moment in our country at this time.
Mrs Bachman, stuff it..and have a BLESSED DAY
03:03 PM on 08/14/2011
Glassy-eyed people who feel they need to inject their religious based perspective into governing our country should be kept far, FAR away from public office. Mrs Bachmann is a perfect example -- she has no command of facts -- frequently misrepresents information, and yet feels perfectly qualified to run our country.

Her avoidance to answer simple questions on "Meet the Press" this morning was a perfect example, when confronted with her past record of being a rabidly anti-gay politician who ties all her hatred back to her religion -- she refused to answer a single question. She wouldn't even admit that she doesn't consider LGBT people with children a valid family. The concept of people like her running our country is truly terrifying. When did we become such a nation of bigots, intolerant sheep and homophobes?

I'm not a huge fan of Obama, but lemme tell ya - I'd vote for him in a second over someone who can't even answer a single question and likes to legalize hatred against whatever group her "higher power" tells her to this week.
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RyansBeard
Architecture student, aka future waiter
02:08 PM on 08/14/2011
To Lauren Holt,
Since you try to adhere so well to the Bible, I hope that you follow these rules as well:
Don't wear clothes of more than one fabric. (Leviticus)
When a woman has a discharge, and the discharge in her body is bloody, she shall be in her menstrual impurity for seven days, and whoever touches her shall be unclean until the evening. (Leviticus) It also goes on to say that if a menstruating woman touches any object it will be unclean until the evening and no one else may touch, lest they become unclean.

So I sincerely hope that when your time of the month comes, you stay isolated in the corner of your room for seven days. For the Bible tells you so.
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bluntobject
Gandhi didn't like your attitude either!
04:14 PM on 08/14/2011
Let me start by saying I actually get a kick out of reading Laureen's posts. Shouting: This Gay man loves you Laureen  but hates your sin of Hating gay people!!!! {{{{{BIG SMOOCHES!!!}}}}..lol. Bless her, she is trying to understand all these crazy gay folks wanting our trivial rights and all. My guess is that Laureen's time of the month stopped occurring many moons ago, and she is now plagued with bitterness over Gay marriages which may be much happier than her own. These feelings could stem from the lack of romance in her life, though she will come back and say it's all right there in her Bible and that's the basis for her reasoning. An excessive number of cigarettes, too much coffee and frequent intrusive thoughts of the 2nd Coming may now occupy most if not all of Laureen's time. She clearly worries about "things", and has notions about "stuff". Be kind to her. :)
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Pax333
12:30 AM on 08/15/2011
Hope her children aren't disobedient during that time as she won't be able to get them stoned down at the gates to the city. A woman's work is never done.
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SickOfGOPCrapola
Three R's: Recovering Reagan Republican
02:02 PM on 08/14/2011
I find it sad that under our current system, I am required to spend untold hours and thousands of dollars to ensure that I am not a legal stranger to my husband while my brother and his attorney wife were automatically granted those rights in a ceremony that lasted all of 45 seconds in a Judge's chambers. My brother and sister-in-law are not married in any church. Their marriage is recognized by the government and that is what we are demanding.

I couldn't care less about being married in a church. All I want is the same rights and recognition that are conferred on others in a ceremony that takes less than a minute to perform.

Too many on the far right are confusing civil marriage with religious marriage. Historically, marriage was a contract between two families for sharing assets and responsibilites. It wasn't until religions realized that there was money to be made in the marriage business that it became divinely inspired by God.
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Angie Tyne 1
I want my disagree button!!
08:30 PM on 08/15/2011
You are absolutely right.

- Marriage at its core is a contract that defines property rights and has not changed in this over time. Who can marry has varied wildly over time. It did not originate w/any one religion and in fact the RCC didn't mandate it until the 1500s as a way to combat the Protestant reformation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage#Europe
http://marriage.about.com/cs/generalhistory/a/marriagehistory.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage

- Biblical marriage chart: http://i.imgur.com/4BWCh.jpg
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Atwill
Christian puppets scare me
08:41 AM on 08/16/2011
I agree. 100%
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MichaelRCooke
A cartoonist and webmaster.
12:54 PM on 08/14/2011
It wasn't that long ago the US military found itself without enough competent military translators because they kept being dishonorably discharged for being Gay. That's leaving alone the obscenity of a legal second class American citizen in the 21st century.
05:59 PM on 08/12/2011
Her husband's rights aren't important?

Pray away the gay? OMG how much more transparent must it be?
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RainbowPhoenix
My God loves me the way he made me.
08:30 PM on 08/11/2011
You left out the part where the first pledge she signed claimed that blacks were better off under slavery.
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RainbowPhoenix
My God loves me the way he made me.
08:26 PM on 08/11/2011
She's working overtime to surpass Christine O'Donnel.
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sf1000000
Screw being nice its highly overrated
11:17 PM on 08/14/2011
well she is there...
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alafonse
It's definitely a crap-shoot.
06:52 PM on 08/11/2011
Stepford....she really does leave that impression. One has to wonder, what's under the hood of that facade?
05:46 PM on 08/11/2011
I don't like & wouldn't vote for her, should she become the nominee (don't believe that's going to happen), & I'm a Republican. I am w/her on no "marriage equality" for gays/lesbians. Obama has abrogated the Defense Of Marriage Act, extreme liberal that he is.....
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Janicot
Been to paradise, never been to me...
06:42 PM on 08/11/2011
I think you'd better look up the definition of "abrogate", or stop using words you don't understand. DOMA is still on the books and still being enforced. The Justice Dept. declining to vouch for its constitutionality in federal courts any longer does not mean it is no longer law.
06:54 PM on 08/11/2011
Can you educate huffpost readers about the specific reasons you agree with Michelle Bachmann regarding no marriage equality for gays and lesbians? Do you know anyone who is gay or lesbian? Do you have any friendships with gay or lesbian couples?

Dick Cheney on gay marriage: “Lynne and I have a gay daughter, so it’s an issue our family is very familiar with,” Cheney told an audience that included his daughter. “With the respect to the question of relationships, my general view is freedom means freedom for everyone. ... People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to." Barry Goldwater on gay rights: "Everyone knows that gays have served honorably in the military since at least the time of Julius Caesar. You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight."

Would you classify staunch Conservatives like Dick Cheney and Barry Goldwarter as "extreme liberals?" What thoughts do you have about Republicans like Cheney and Goldwater who have similar views to President Obama about issues related to rights for gays and lesbians?
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bluntobject
Gandhi didn't like your attitude either!
02:39 AM on 08/12/2011
That's pure bigotry talking man. Laureen is beyond help..lol All good points you make, btw. f.fv.
04:55 PM on 08/12/2011
It's quite simple, rawbdawgg: marriage is between a man & a woman, Marriage is an institution created by God in Genesis, & it wasn't between 2 persons of the same sex.

As of matter of fact, I do have a few friends & some acquaintances who are gay/lesbian. We can/do enjoy each other's company w/o getting into the polemics of gay "marriage" & the fact that the Creator never designed 2 of the same sex to be together. He, in fact, condemns such behavior, later on in Genesis. I simply cannot support something for those who are of a different persuasion that God created & never intended them to have--marriage.

Why would you expect Cheney to have a different attitude if he has a lesbian daughter? He & Goldwater are conservatives, just not on this issue, as am I. Gays can enter into any kind of relationship they want to other than the 1 God made for man & woman--marriage is reserved for them until God changes His mind & institutes marriage for homosexuals.

I see 0 reason why gays can't serve in military. Do not support any kind of job, education, housing, medical care, or civil rights discrimination/denials against gays, with the exception of adopting children; I disagree that they should be allowed to do so.

0-bama is a liberal. Enough said
Bellla
Trans & Proud
05:17 PM on 08/11/2011
I wouldn't put her in charge of a kennel, much less our nation.
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sf1000000
Screw being nice its highly overrated
11:20 PM on 08/14/2011
a Kennel? HELL no, I love animals to much...let's send her to Mars so she can "Spearhead" the spread of the Christian message...
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bluntobject
Gandhi didn't like your attitude either!
07:47 PM on 08/15/2011
ROFL! You're funny as He_ll....where Laureen thinks were all headed.
04:24 PM on 08/11/2011
What kind of income taxes do the Bachmann's pay on all their government provided money?
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TXanimal
Somewhere between Occam's Razor & Murphy's Law
11:04 AM on 08/15/2011
According to her, that's none of our business. *sigh*
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bluntobject
Gandhi didn't like your attitude either!
07:48 PM on 08/15/2011
Why NONE, of course. Republicans don't like to pay and often don't pay taxes.