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James Moore

Posted: March 16, 2010 06:36 PM

On the Matter of Karl Rove's Father

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In his book and the various interviews and speeches surrounding publication, Karl Rove has made a point of attacking information Wayne Slater and I reported and published regarding Rove's background and the formative years of his political belief system. The topic he has seemed most prickly about deals with his father's sexual orientation. As is his practice, Rove ignores facts to practice skilled denial.

Louis Rove's personal life was nobody's business until his adopted son decided to make gay rights a wedge issue in the campaigns of George W. Bush. Rove, who recently pleaded for privacy during divorce from his wife Darby, pushed policies in campaigns that were designed to interfere in the private lives of gays, lesbians, and transgender people. Rove has no right to demand privacy when he refuses to respect it in the lives of other individuals and families. His relationship with his father is context for his politics and interest in his father is a consequence of those politics.

When he was interviewed by Matt Lauer on The Today Show, Rove said he had no idea if his father was gay. If this is the case, Karl was one of the few people who knew Louis Rove that was not aware of his sexual orientation. In our book, The Architect: Karl Rove and the Dream of Absolute Power, (I disagreed with the publisher's hyperbolic subtitle), I interviewed several people in Palm Springs, California about Louis Rove and his politically ambitious son. Joseph Koons, who was Louis Rove's best friend for 13 years, told me, "Louie didn't hide the fact that he was gay. But he didn't play it up either. We had lots of gay and straight friends. I was never the effeminate type and neither was Louie. We didn't play it up that way, either. But he was gay. And so am I."

Although Joe Koons, a retired insurance company executive, was the only one of Louis Rove's gay friends to go on the record for our book, two other neighbors were quoted and confirmed that Rove had lived openly as a gay man. Koons took Rove to numerous social gatherings with other older gay men but Louis preferred to spend his time at home in his Palm Springs neighborhood. Koons said he was not romantically involved with Louis but was as "close as a brother" and that Karl was completely aware of his father's sexual orientation.

During an interview for our first book on Rove, Bush's Brain: How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush Presidential, we asked the president's political guru about the causes for the breakup of his parent's marriage and what might have driven his mother, Reba Wood Rove, to commit suicide. At the time, we were not aware of Louis Rove's sexual orientation and were simply asking Karl to speculate because he remembered so vividly his father coming home on Christmas Eve, an ensuing argument, and then the end of the marriage without any real explanation from his mother. An astute observer even at 19 when the marriage failed, Rove continues to claim 40 years later that he had no clue then or now that his dad way gay. When I went to Palm Springs in 2005 prior to the publication of The Architect, one of Louis Rove's neighbors literally laughed when I told him Karl claimed he didn't know what happened to his parents' marriage.

"He [Karl] was obviously hurt by the divorce. It's just absurd when he says, 'I had no idea what the problems were with my parents and their marriage.' He knew damned good and well what was going on. His father had decided to come out of the closet."

In fact, according to Louis Rove's best friend Joe Koons, Rove not only knew his father's sexual orientation but also was comfortable with it and had accepted his father's honesty.

"I don't recall that there was any great tension over it," Koons told me during the 2005 interview. "I don't know how much impact that plays in the family and when they did find out about it. Karl is certainly not dumb. I am sure he knows more than anyone about his father's position. The times I spent with Karl and Louie were wonderful and Karl was always just very, very nice."

Karl, in fact, according to Koons and Louis Rove's neighbors, was a frequent visitor to Palm Springs beginning in the 80s and vacationed almost annually with his father in Santa Fe, New Mexico. It would have been difficult for Rove to not know this fundamental fact about his father.

Rove does get one thing correct in his book. He said that we wrote his father, "after living openly as a gay man," died quietly at home while his son was in the midst of launching the anti-gay issues campaign that was to lead to the re-election of George W. Bush." In his TV interviews, Rove twisted this around to make it sound like we were portraying him as a man who had denied his father, which was not the case. The chapter in our book regarding Louis and Karl Rove repeatedly makes it clear that Bush's Brain honored and loved Louis and was present for a private memorial service.

Lastly, I want to say bluntly I don't give a damn about Louis or Karl Rove's personal lives. But when Karl decided that the private and personal lives of other consenting adults needed to be corrected to suit the moral imperatives of his party's political desires, well, then Karl turned his family into a part of the narrative. As he promotes his revisionist paperweight around the country, he is allowed to take an aggrieved stand of someone whose privacy has been invaded by amoral journalists. What about the lives harmed or ruined by the sexual politics of Rove's mean-spirited campaigning? How is that measured?

Originally, I had told friends I did not want to be drawn into discussions about Rove's book. I've come to resent the poisonous nature of the discourse in our national politics. The notion, however, that silence is consent is more than a little unsettling. Rove started his political ascension with lies and he has now published a book that is filled with a new set of lies that attempt to convince the entirety of America that during the Bush administration everybody got everything wrong; except for Karl and President Bush. This, too, is another Rove lie. And it's criminal for myself or anyone else to allow his lies to continue to live.

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10:47 PM on 03/18/2010
This explains a lot.
01:26 AM on 03/18/2010
We already knew how manipulative and maniacal Rove was, but if he was accepting of his gay father, his actions display an incredible condescension toward the religious fundamentalists that he was trying use for his wedge issues.
07:38 PM on 03/17/2010
Rove is a war criminal.
11:17 PM on 03/18/2010
let's never forget that!
06:32 PM on 03/17/2010
Karl Rove is a small man with a tiny brain and no morals. He would throw anyone under the bus to make himself look good. He and the Vp should have been kicked to the curb for treason when they revealed Valerie P's name to the news just to discredit someone who disagreed with them and was right -- they were wrong, criminally so and thousands have died so they could make $$$ from the wars they began. They can claim they thought Saddam had WMD -- they didn't want to know any differently and never entertained the idea that everyone else could be right and them wrong -- if that was the case there was no call to invade and THAT was not what they wanted.
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littlepuffycloud
I propose a toast to my self control...
05:52 PM on 03/17/2010
Wonder what I did to PO the Moods this time. I can't a thing through.
05:35 PM on 03/17/2010
I just have to say that this matters not at all. What is sad is when a "journalist" or "newsman" tries to interview Rove, and Rove shreds them. Happened to Brokaw this past Sunday. Rove is smarter than any of those guys, probably by a factor of ten. It is really embarrasing.
04:50 PM on 03/17/2010
Rove, like all so called Christian Conservatives practice "Double Standard" policy. Do as I say, not as I do.
There's nothing private about Rove's character assassinations of John McCain and others during Bush's campaigns. Rove is a confused puppy and only when he sits alone on his front porch will he be cushioned by his hypocritical ways.
02:54 PM on 03/17/2010
Conservatism was founded to destroy the enlightenment of the people and conserve the monarchy and their serfs.

Public lies and hypocrisy

are how people prove they are conservatives.

Haven't ya noticed?
10:29 PM on 03/18/2010
I have.
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DakotaMinnesota
Read About Smedley Butler.
02:21 PM on 03/17/2010
I don't suppose the Christians will stop trying to legislate about people's personal preferences now, will they?
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01:37 PM on 03/17/2010
what point does it prove to out a dead man? how does this help people on your side at all? the article comes off as mean spirited and has little point to it. who cares anything about karl rove's dead father? im sure karl does, im sure his family does, but this article belongs in the national enquirer. this is not news, not even good analysis.
lightnessandjoy
Is micro-bio a new disease?
01:59 PM on 03/17/2010
No, this article is absolutely necessary. Hypocrisy cannot be allowed to hide and liars and cheats like Karl Rove who use sexual orientation as a political weapon need to hauled out of their own little closets The article is not about Rove's father, it is about Karl Rove and everything that is wrong and dishonest about one of the nastiest politicians America has ever produced.
lightnessandjoy
Is micro-bio a new disease?
02:01 PM on 03/17/2010
PS This article did not "out" anyone. It clearly points out that Rove senior was open about his own sexuality.
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wallyone
12:12 PM on 03/17/2010
Who is/was worse, Lee Atwater or Karl Rove? Tough choice.
12:38 PM on 03/17/2010
They both were/are terrific at what they do. If they were Democrats, they would be idolized by many posters here. No different than Carville, Begala etc. they did their job, did it well and WON!!
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PunKinPai
Tact is just not saying true stuff. I’ll pass.
12:51 PM on 03/17/2010
Comparing Begala and Carville to Atwater and Rove is ridiculous. And you know it.
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Poiks
01:29 PM on 03/17/2010
"I'm looking at all of these Robert and adding them up. I add up to a Republican Senate and Republican House. You may end up with a different math but you are entitled to your math and I'm entitled to THE math. "

~Karl Rove, October 24, 2006. Two weeks later, the Democrats took both houses of Congress.
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cloudmaker
01:18 PM on 03/17/2010
The answer to that is simple. Lee Atwater repented of his truly evil ways, rueful that he had done so much damage to so many people. He also admitted it was out of sheer hate. Rove is still a hater, and I doubt if there will ever be any similar deathbed confessions out of him.
10:32 PM on 03/18/2010
Really?
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legalgirl
Just a legal girl on a mission for the truth
11:55 AM on 03/17/2010
Where are the indictments? Remember Gov. Don Siegelman? Remember the fired judges? Remember, remember, remember . . . crimes don't go away. "The truth will out." It's only a matter of time, and no matter what happens, Rove's ultimate sentence is that he must live with himself.
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12:24 PM on 03/17/2010
Legalgirl,
Rove didnt have the authority to fire those AG's (they werent judges, at least that's my understanding). So he cant be thrown in jail for an act he couldnt have committed. Wanting them to be fired is not a crime. Also, Bush fired 9 attorney generals, why no problem when Clinton fired all of them in 1993?
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DakotaMinnesota
Read About Smedley Butler.
01:46 PM on 03/17/2010
Your username is characteristic of the sickening headgames you right wingers like to play.

Read about Hubert H. Humphrey's 1948 DNC speech and learn about what the GOP is now.

Though you probably already know about all this and are willfully appearing ignorant because you know how much it distresses knowledgeable people who actually want to live their lives ethically.

If the GOP is still so "humanitarian," then what's with this bigoted stance towards gays?
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01:30 PM on 03/17/2010
legal-
I like that. ...Remember,remember, remember.

The new mantra, coined by President Ronald Reagan, and repeated endlessly, "I don't recall'.
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blisster
Need more micro-bio fuel for my mitochondria
11:40 AM on 03/17/2010
Bush's brain a bane on the American political enviroment.

Loathsome falls precipitously short of how I feel about this bundle of crass sinew.
11:36 AM on 03/17/2010
You're a petty man. Plus For 8 years many here, including Lawrence O'Donnell, wrote that Rove was about to be indicted and convicted. They were wrong. Rove is free. Where are the retractions or apologies?
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SF TKF
Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
11:56 AM on 03/17/2010
For what? For hoping that justice would be done?
12:11 PM on 03/17/2010
For giving false information. Justice WAS done. He is a free man. Just because the left whines, no illegalities. meanwhile Gitmo is still open. It's the right thing.
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12:25 PM on 03/17/2010
For what? How about false accusations designed to assassinate a man's character. Claiming someone is criminal through the national press, when he isnt, is slander and libel (depending on wether spoken or written).
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tbone99
cruisin' duality
11:12 AM on 03/17/2010
This just goes to show to that gay rights is just a wedge issue used to manipulate the Christian Right by the GOP . Rove could care less about hating gays - but like any politician he'll say anything for votes.

Its like Obama campaigning on a public option and health reform and then after we vote him in, delivering us to medical insurance corporations on a silver platter, all the while railing against their greed and ruthlessness.
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12:33 PM on 03/17/2010
i agree with your Obama analysis. I just dont think rove "hates" gays. Did he use gay rights/marriage as an issue in states to increase conservative turnout (which would increase the Bush vote)? Sure he did.

It was a smart, brillant, and calculating move. That's why he's the best in the business. the libs always say bush was a stupid alcoholic hick, who couldnt speak, and probably had chew in his back pocket. But for some reason Bush won every major political battle he has ever had. Against the smart progressives like Ann Richards, Al Gore, and John Kerry. Bush got his agenda though congress with smaller majorities than Obama has. Why?

Karl Rove. That's why he is the best in the business. Like Brett "the Hitman" Hart. He is the best there is, the best there was, and the best there is ever going to be.
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unitron
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01:29 PM on 03/17/2010
Better than Lee Atwater?
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DakotaMinnesota
Read About Smedley Butler.
01:54 PM on 03/17/2010
He doesn't hate gays??

Doesn't that make him your enemy then?