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Joanne Bamberger

Joanne Bamberger

Posted: May 27, 2009 03:45 PM

Sonia Sotomayor and Elle Woods Have a Lot in Common


"Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see."

That's what Supreme Court nominee and federal court judge Sonia Sotomayor has said in the past about how individual experience comes into play when deciding cases and looking at the law.

Many conservatives are afraid of that approach and are going to try to convince America that no judge should be appointed to the Supreme Court who doesn't decide cases merely by applying the law to the facts of a case in a vacuum.

But which facts? How do we know which ones are the important ones in any case? The right ones? The ones that will sway a case from one outcome to another? As someone who practiced law for about 15 years, I know that sometimes those questions are easier than others.

You can't decide a case without looking at all the facts, even the ones that don't seem important at first blush. I learned that the hard way as a young lawyer. That's where digging a little deeper and calling on the things we've learned in life help us out as lawyers in a way that all those law school classes don't.

At the risk of being called too flip in this analogy, I'd like to invoke my favorite movie lawyer Elle Woods from Legally Blonde. (If you're short on time, pick up the video at about 4:30).

As a recovering litigator, I love a good cross-examination! I'm not talking about the unlikely witness stand confession -- Elle's personal expertise that the rules of hair care are are simple and finite are what turned the tide in that case. Without knowing those facts, she would not have been able to make the connection and prove that the witness was lying. Yet her male bosses scoffed at her, thinking she was headed down a pointless tangent as she questioned the witness.

I know this was just a movie, but the example happens in real life cases every day -- lawyers and judges find ways to apply the things they've learned in their own lives -- to sift through facts to figure out what's relevant and what isn't. Sometimes that's easy and sometimes it takes something more than an Ivy League law degree and years on the bench to put the pieces together to see the whole picture.

Does anyone really doubt that the outcome of the Lilly Ledbetter case would have been different if the majority of Supreme Court justices had faced the kind of discrimination Ledbetter or their colleague Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg had? Ginsburg, as is evident from her dissent, saw the facts of the discrimination a lot differently than her male counterparts.

Facts are never just black and white. They look a lot different depending on the lens through which they are viewed. For some men, there's no relevance to how women have been treated differently than men by companies who find loopholes in existing laws. But to a woman who has lived or observed that experience, there's a very real and significant difference.

When the GOP goes on the attack on Sotomayor's nomination, as they surely will, and try to frame her as an activist judge or someone who can't focus just on the facts and the law, keep reminding yourself about Elle Woods.

If she hadn't been a Cosmo girl, her client would have ended up in jail for life for a murder she didn't commit. I'm not saying that we should ask if Sonia Sotomayor was ever a Cosmo girl, but sometimes there are important things our life experiences teach us that get us to the right outcome. That's not activism. That's real life.

Joanne Bamberger is the founder and editor-in-chief of the political blog, PunditMom. She is also a Contributing Editor at BlogHer. She is a political and social media analyst whose commentary has appeared on CNN, Fox News, BBC Radio, Al Jazeera English and more.

"Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see." That's what Supreme Court nominee and federal court judge Sonia Sotomayor has said in the past about how individual experience comes...
"Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see." That's what Supreme Court nominee and federal court judge Sonia Sotomayor has said in the past about how individual experience comes...
 
 
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04:03 AM on 05/30/2009
I'm sorry, but this article isn't doing Sotomayor any favors...
The author has not listed even one smidgeon of evidence that Sotomayor has any qualities that we might like aside from the fact that she is a woman.
I would never hire this author (Joanne Bamberger) as my lawyer... She would probably want to show clips from 'Steel Magnolias' to the jury in hopes of swaying them from giving me the death sentence...

The article is presented as a defense of Sotomayor but I think it's working more for the prosecution.
10:21 AM on 05/28/2009
I would argue that Justice Ginsburg's personal experience was completely irrelevant to the Ledbetter Case.

All that mattered was the law as congress wrote it, whether or not that law was constitutional and whether or not it was applied properly in the that case. Whether or not Justice Ginsburg's previous employers were nice enough to her is completely irrelevant.
12:08 PM on 05/28/2009
It wasn't a matter of whether they were nice to her, it was a matter of whether they treated her the same way her male counterparts were treated.

Laws can be written that appear to be constitutional until they are applied to you. Learning years after the fact that every man doing the same job as a woman was paid more money doesn't make it less unfair than learning it the day after it happens.
12:16 PM on 05/28/2009
Whether or not she was treated the same way as male counterparts was also irrelevant to the Ledbetter case. Her personal experience wasn't at issue. It was Ledbetter's experience and the law that mattered.
09:07 AM on 05/28/2009
I Love Elle Woods - - whenever I feel like a lift I watch both the legally blonde movies again.
Great stuff ammonium thyglocalate forever!
05:48 PM on 05/27/2009
PLEASE READ. What Sotomayor was talking about in her Berkeley speech is the importance of diversity in our judges. This speech is a call for all types of judges, white males included but also others, because, in her words, personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see.

She said, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived her life, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF DECIDING SEX OR RACIAL DISCRIMINATION CASES. Just like in deciding an antitrust case, a judge who only had the experience of being a big corporate CEO might look at the case differently than a judge who only had the experience of being a small business owner.

Now you can agree or disagree with her sentiment that having judges with varying personal experiences makes the judicial system better. But calling her a racist because of it is completely and utterly INACCURATE. Once again I fear the conservative bigots will win on spinning this one.
05:29 PM on 05/27/2009
Along the lines of life experiences, I went through a jury selection for a case about a bar room brawl which had occurred in a small Alaskan village. When I looked around at the other potential jurors, I knew that they [mostly white, from Fairbanks, as am I] would not have a good feel for the context of the fight. When I said as much, that I didn't think bringing Eskimo villagers to a large, mostly white community to stand trial was fair to them, I was thanked and excused. Don't want the jurors actually being familiar with the life of the accused, do we?

btw, I also figured that my Alaskan bar experience was a little richer than most the potential jurors there, too, but that's another story...
05:01 PM on 05/27/2009
Ms. Bamberger, I liked your article and I liked both Elle Woods movies.

There's a lot to be said for vantage points. Try finding your shoes under the bed if you're standing in the kitchen. It's a lot easier if you're knelt down beside the bed.

Respectfully
Little Brother
04:51 PM on 05/27/2009
I thought Elle Woods was Tiger Wood's wife!
04:24 PM on 05/27/2009
Wow, so well put. I love the movie "Legally Blonde" and I agree with you completely. Your life experiences dictate the way that you react in any situation. One hundred people can attend a concert. They can each tell you a different variation on the event. No one is wrong and no one is right. They are all relaying the experience based on the parts that had meaning to them. The Constitution is the one constant in the judicial system. However, a judge from the inner city who has dealt with violence and death from guns on the streets, may see the Second Amendment in a different light from a judge who enjoys hunting for sport. One is not more right or more wrong. They are seeing things through their own experiences. That is why diversity is so important, and the willingness to listen and see things through others eyes matters in this country.
04:20 PM on 05/27/2009
Of course all the best use life experiences - they know they are deciding the fates of everyone in America. Women are often more willing to use what they know. Reminds me of a story told by Mary Grace Ketner called Clever Manka - the story of a common woman whose cleverness and ability to solve problems helped her marry a King. Using common sense, she helped someone win a case and the King said she would have to go back to her father - he couldn't have someone living under his roof who went against him. She asked if she could take the one thing she couldn't live without and he relented. She waited until he was asleep and when he awoke he was at her father's - because he was the thing she loved the most and couldn't live without. He changed his mind and true to all tales - lived happily ever after with her often being called in when he needed someone to help him decide something.
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I connect the most dissimilar things
04:04 PM on 05/27/2009
Cool connection!