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When It Comes to Greenland's Glaciers, Precedence Doesn't Matter

Posted: 08/03/2012 4:42 pm

Much to-do has been made this week about surface melt in Greenland. For anyone who hasn't been following the story, NASA released findings that shows surface melt has been observed on more than 97 percent of the Greenland ice sheet this summer a rate unprecedented in the era of satellite observation.

The subsequent media uproar has centered mainly on the revelation that this year's melt is not an isolated occurrence. The deep interior of Greenland is high enough in elevation to normally stay frozen year-round, but ice cores show us that extreme melt events do happen from time to time. This year's extreme melt episode is noteworthy for being the first such in nearly 125 years, as well as the first to be observed by satellites.

Climate naysayers, as one might expect, have been critical of NASA's use of the word "unprecedented." The fact that this has happened many times in the past only confirms their belief that there's nothing to be concerned about.

Climate activists, meanwhile, have expressed frustration with NASA for calculating a historical trend over a time span that poorly frames recent observations. It has been perceived by some to be a deliberate and overly conservative hedge to avoid calling a spade a spade.

Lost in the fray is the simple salient fact that Greenland is losing more and more of its ice to the sea every year. These latest findings, unprecedented or not, don't change the fact that this melt season is one more in a longstanding trend of increasingly higher melt seasons.

It is also worth noting that surface melt constitutes approximately half of Greenland's total contribution to sea-level rise. The other half of the equation comes via discharge from outlet glaciers. In other words, last week's findings are in fact only part of the story of ice mass loss and global sea level rise.

Through the last century, the ice sheets were considered fairly stable -- losses and gains were fairly close enough to offset each other. It was thought that a lot of time -- on the order of centuries -- was needed to for an ice sheet to undergo significant growth or loss. Since the late '90s, many Greenlandic outlet glaciers have been accelerating, some dramatically so. Antarctic glaciers have been accelerating as well, pushing the southern continent from what used to be a net gain in ice to a net loss. The rapidity of change -- on the order of decades -- has garnered considerable attention.

Currently, Greenland and Antarctica contribute approximately 1.3 millimeters to sea level rise each year, but this rate is increasing. Under the current rates of acceleration for ice sheet loss, we could expect 56 centimeters of sea level rise by 2100, from the ice sheets alone. Whether this month's extreme melt event was truly unprecedented, or part of a larger cycle, is not really the point. There exists many years of data, from multiple sources of sea level rise, to justify concern. We need not glom onto (nor dismiss) one extraordinary number to come to that conclusion.

 
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Much to-do has been made this week about surface melt in Greenland. For anyone who hasn't been following the story, NASA released findings that shows surface melt has been observed on more than 97 per...
Much to-do has been made this week about surface melt in Greenland. For anyone who hasn't been following the story, NASA released findings that shows surface melt has been observed on more than 97 per...
 
 
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05:14 PM on 08/06/2012
http://www.phys.huji.ac.il/~shaviv/Ice-ages/GSAToday.pdf

Solar increase precedes temperature increases.

Cosmic Rays increase precedes temperature increases.
11:30 PM on 08/05/2012
I'm guessing this means global warming is real :/ very scary indeed - Kenneth Fingerman
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05:15 PM on 08/06/2012
http://larouchepac.com/mastering-nature

Weather Report
July 21st, 2012 • 1:00 AM

Today, another lesson on the global warming scare. We look at Greenland's Petermann Glacier, the American Drought, the reconstruction of our planet's temperature record, the galaxy, the Sun and its solar flare of the past week. Don't panic. Read Shaviv & Veizer's paper.
11:08 PM on 08/05/2012
Yes, but you deliver only half the story. The other half is the RATE at which change is occurring, that excessive rate is driven by man's excessive usage of fossil fuels. Climage change that is evident now has been exacerbated by man's dependence on fossil fuels, now that's the rest of the story.
06:08 PM on 08/04/2012
The real key development in Greenland has been the lengthening of the melt season. It is starting earlier and lasting later than just a few years ago. The Arctic gets about 2 million sq. kilometers less ice coverage each winter than it did 30 years ago. The winter maximum is declining. As the Arctic ocean warms up, then someday the Arctic will be ice free year round. How long will that take? Maybe one or two hundred years. Imagine that -- an Arctic ocean with no ice at all, even in winter.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:46 AM on 08/06/2012
The Arctic Ocean is never likely to be ice-free year-round. In summer yes, but when the sun sets, the ocean surface will always freeze - not a great depth, but you cannot sustain liquid water in the polar winter.
01:43 PM on 08/06/2012
That's of very little help to the people living at the beach today who will need 60m long breating tubes to stay in their homes in the future.

:-)
06:04 PM on 08/04/2012
Well said. Scientists tend to be specialists, and so tend to only comment on what they study. Normally this is good. However, when trying to tell people what is going to happen in the Arctic, all the interrelated disciplines need to understand the feedbacks and their consequences. The declining albedo, melting permafrost, dissolving clathrates, and warming oceans are all having accelerating impacts. Not only is the warming accelerating, the acceleration of that warming is itself accelerating.
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03:16 PM on 08/04/2012
Was Erik the Red so prescient when he named Greenland that he anticipated climate change?
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01:04 AM on 08/05/2012
His marketing scheme was a little ahead of its time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland#Etymology
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:47 AM on 08/06/2012
In the summer there were grassy fringes then just as there are today.
02:17 PM on 08/04/2012
"It has been perceived by some to be a deliberate and overly conservative hedge to avoid calling a spade a spade." While you've got that spade out, be sure to get up to Alaska where they're still digging their way out of last winter and spring's record snowfalls. And the Coast Range mountains, such as Washington State's Mount Baker, have been seeing-record breaking glacier incrementation for years. Every warmist scare ever headlined by the mainstream dogmatists has been followed by a "since such and such a year" in the fine print. In this case I believe the year is 1897.
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05:02 PM on 08/04/2012
There is a reason it is called global climate change.

Local weather does not prove nor disprove 'global climate change'

But keep trying and maybe some scientists will ask for your advice!
08:56 PM on 08/04/2012
So the entire states of Alaska and Washington are "local," but Greenland is proof of global climate change. Scientists do not get to trump and discard the rules of logic.
11:25 PM on 08/04/2012
Qualifications please? You have a PhD in what area of climate science? What? No PhD in anything?
12:16 PM on 08/04/2012
There is an important fact that Mr. Plummer omitted due to space. Ice behaves like a polycrystalline metal near its melting point. This is why IPCC AR4 did not include ice sheet collapse in predicting sea level rise. This makes the behavior of ice sheets too unpredictable. AR4 stated as such.
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03:15 AM on 08/04/2012
Exactly my thoughts. More evidence of melting volumes of ice, leads one to conclude we are getting warmer. What else is there to conclude? I'll guess this whole thing will have to play itself out in the wait and see what happens mind set. Man is a stubborn beast.
02:19 PM on 08/04/2012
And nature is a fickle mother.