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Mississippi: 'Limbaugh Effect' Softens Blow For Hillary Clinton


Hillary Clinton suffered a huge defeat last night in Mississippi, and now faces an insurmountable pledged delegate lead by Barack Obama. But what most pundits missed was the fact that Obama's victory would have been even more overwhelming in Mississippi (and he might have won the popular vote in Texas) if not for the "Limbaugh effect": Republicans voting in the Democratic primary in order to undermine Barack Obama and help John McCain.

Approximately 25% of Clinton's voters in Mississippi were Republicans voting for a candidate they hate in order to try to undermine Barack Obama. Obama's 61-37 margin of victory in Mississippi would have been around 70-30 without Clinton's Republican voters, and Obama would have easily expanded his delegate win there from 19-14 to 24-9.

In the voting during January and February, Republicans were an average of 3.8% of the voters in the Democratic Primary, and they heavily supported Obama. But for the primaries in March, in Texas, Ohio, and Mississippi, Republicans have been 8% of the voters in the Democratic primary, and now they heavily support Hillary Clinton. This is definite proof of the "Limbaugh effect" coming through. Overall, 1.36% of the voters in the January and February primaries were Republicans who marked their ballot for Clinton; yet, 5.67% of the voters in the March primaries were Republicans voting for Clinton. Barack Obama's Republican numbers in the March primary showed only a modest increase, probably from moderate Republicans who shifted their support to Obama once John McCain's campaign was assured of victory.

In Ohio and Texas, 9% of the voters were Republicans, and they split almost evenly between Obama and Clinton. These votes, more than doubling the percentage of Republican voters in earlier primaries, gave Hillary Clinton a big advantage since Obama typically won more than twice as many voters as she did in previous primaries. In other words, about 3% of the voters in Ohio and Texas were Republicans newly voting for Hillary Clinton out of purely tactical reasons, to try to ruin the Democratic race.

The "HillPublicans" (insincere Republicans voting for Hillary) became a much larger force in the Mississippi election. Fully 9% of the people voting in the Democratic primary were Republicans voting for Clinton. That means that almost one-quarter of Clinton's votes in Mississippi came from Republicans, nearly all of whom hate Clinton but wanted to distort the results of the Democratic primary. By contrast, Obama's Republican vote, at 3%, was similar to his historical average throughout the primaries.

The exit polls in Mississippi proved that these "HillPublicans" are not sudden converts to the Clinton campaign. As this diary noted, 70% of those who have a strongly favorable opinion of McCain picked Clinton. In addition, 6% of the voters in the primary voted for Clinton and said they would be dissatisified if she won the nomination; only 1% of the primary voters went for Obama and said they would be dissatisfied if he won.

According to a Pew Research Poll in February, substantially more Republicans would support Obama (8%) rather than Clinton (5%) against McCain, so we know this voting is tactical.

Hillary Clinton's loss in Mississippi would have been far more dramatic if not for the concerted efforts of Republicans to save her campaign and damage Barack Obama. Of course, some Clinton supporters might claim that these numbers simply reverse what was happening earlier in the primary, when Obama had the support of Republicans and independents. However, this is highly doubtful. Obama's support came from moderates who are likely to switch parties in the fall. The votes he got came consistently during the early primaries when the Republican nomination was a hotly contested battle. It is unlikely that many Limbaugh supporters were voting for Obama back when they were so busy trying to deny McCain the nomination.

The "HillPublicans" had a dramatic effect on the analysis as well as the results. Pat Buchanan declared during the MSNBC coverage of the Mississippi vote, "Apparently Clinton's voters don't like Obama." That's probably because more than one-quarter of Clinton's voters were Republicans, and nearly all of them were voting in an effort to hurt Obama.

Rarely in American politics have so many people ever intentionally voted for a candidate they hate so much. Approximately 40,000 Republicans in Mississippi decided to vote for Hillary Clinton in order to help her destroy the Democratic Party this year with a divided convention. Hillary Clinton's "big wins" in March failed to help her close the delegate gap, and she cannot possibly win the pledged delegate race against Obama. The only hope for Hillary Clinton is that Republican voters will help her reduce the gap against Obama, and that the superdelegates will somehow be convinced to obey the will of Rush Limbaugh and his acolytes by stealing the election from the legitimate voters.

Crossposted at ObamaPolitics.

Note: I'm the author of a new book, Barack Obama: This Improbable Quest, but I'm not part of the Obama campaign.

Hillary Clinton suffered a huge defeat last night in Mississippi, and now faces an insurmountable pledged delegate lead by Barack Obama. But what most pundits missed was the fact that Obama's victory ...
Hillary Clinton suffered a huge defeat last night in Mississippi, and now faces an insurmountable pledged delegate lead by Barack Obama. But what most pundits missed was the fact that Obama's victory ...
 
 
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Leefeller
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03:01 PM on 03/14/2008
Am I the only one that sees the picture above as having a dual meaning?
01:26 PM on 03/14/2008
This is EXACTLY why I hate the idea of open primaries. Want to vote for a Democrat in the primary, become a Democrat publicly. Want to be an independant or Republican? Fine, just don't try to influence MY party.

It's total crap to say that people are "disenfranchised" by not being able to vote for a party primary they don't belong to. Join a party, or wait for the general election.

And if hillary wants all that Republican support, maybe she should switch parties declare herself to be a moderate Republican.
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05:34 PM on 03/17/2008
I agree but perhaps primary should be open to independents... that is a question that should be studied..

But what the republican are doing is stealing delegates from Obama because they feel much more assured the will be Clinton, and at the same time they are increasing Clinton's popular vote making it appear superficially that she has more support than she actually does... this further argues for Clinton to drop out because the reality of her winning in the general election is skewed toward unreality by the neo-con and other McCain supporters voting for the weaker general election candidate... and perhaps the Clintons have worked this system with the republicans who want to see Bush policies continued by the next president, so given a McCain-Clinton match-up, they get their wish. And perhaps this collusion is in place since her husband and the rest of her campaign who have said previously that delegates are what counts, now say popular vote counts and that included the republicans who are attempting to choose the Democratic nominee... if the Clintons were decent folks she would drop out now and stop this aggressive, sleazy attempt at theft in collusion, active or passive, with neo-cons.
10:54 AM on 03/14/2008
Republicans are the party of Hate. It is there driving force, it is the force that bands them together. Rush does not talk about consertaive ideas and plans, he talks about hatred for the Evil crazy liberals. They hate American schools, proffesors, climataologist, sceintist, media, TV, hollywood.

Rush limbagh spews out more anti AMerican crap than any terrist ever has. He collect listeners like a mob or a possie. He plays on ignorant and the uninformed and appeals to the worst in people. Rush is a problem for America we need to get past.
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10:33 AM on 03/14/2008
Well then Limbaugh is an idiot because his "air heads" voted for the wrong person Obama will wipe the floor with McCain, so the but what do you expect from Limbaugh and his band of lemmings.
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09:52 AM on 03/14/2008
Does anyone know if they allow crossover voting in Pennsylvania or any of the other remaining primaries?
10:16 AM on 03/14/2008
I just called to check. In PA, only registered Dems and Repubs can vote, and they can only vote for candidates within their respective parties. Crossover voting isn't allowed. Independents can't vote at all.
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11:19 AM on 03/14/2008
THANK YOU for getting the anwer!!!
09:26 AM on 03/14/2008
I don't understand why this is allowed. Why would the parties agree to allow non-party members to vote in their primaries?
01:14 PM on 03/14/2008
Because sometimes Repubs and Independents might like a democratic candidate better -- which happened a lot with Obama. (For instance, Obama got a lot of Repub. votes in Iowa, New Hampshire and the other early primaries). However, the crossover is subject to abuse, like what is going on now when the Repub. nominee is already decided but the Democrat is not.
01:31 PM on 03/14/2008
Its called open primaries. people want to classify themselves as one party, or say that they are INDEPENDANT, but then claim they are "disenfranchised" by not being able to influence a group to whom they refuse to join.

California had it. I'm back in Nebraska and just one of the reasons I am happier now is that this state doesn't.

Join a group or stay out of their business!
03:26 PM on 03/13/2008
The Democrats have turned out what amounts to two-thirds or sometimes three-fourths of the electorate in races where both parties fielded a candidate and therefore the prospects for Democratic success are greatly enhanced. Against such a juggernaut, the Republicans are desperately looking for a gigantic wedge to drive into the Democratic monolith. Sensing the inevitibility of Barack Obama as the nominee, they have looked to the simplest and hitherto most effective wedge against the Democrats. Their decision is to wedge race and gender. With such a measly hand to play and a candidate who is somewhat already damaged goods, these huge wedges would have to come their way to begin to give the Republicans any possibility of success.

The Democrats will likely counter the gender wedge simply by nominating a female Vice-President. The wedge of race will always be a possibility to Republican instincts as long as Barack Oboma is the candidate. The great problem with this poorly thoughtout scenario is that Barack comes to the voter not as a Black but as a fully rounded candidate who defies categorization and racial typing. His appeal to white voters will only improve as the general election begins.

Republicans have little history of being able to wedge black voters.
01:24 AM on 03/14/2008
Ummm...sorry. It was the Democrats who inserted both race and gender into the Democratic primary.
09:21 AM on 03/14/2008
Yeah, they nominated a women and and African-American. Shame on them. The only race- and gender-free primary would apparently be one with only white males in it. D'oh!
03:05 PM on 03/13/2008
Let's see when Obama was getting 2 to 1 Republican votes up until MI, it was because he is a unity candidate. But when Hillary gets Republican votes, it's because they want to stop Obama. Riiiight.
03:34 PM on 03/13/2008
There is a difference here. When Obama was getting Republican votes, there was still a Republican campaign going on. The Republicans were voting for candidates they liked. Now the Republicans have a nominee and many of them are voting because they wish to cause mischief. Every right-wing commentator out there is egging on Republicans to vote for Hillary because they know it will cause the most damage to the Democrats because it will perpetuate this whole mess. If you can't recognize this difference, then you need some assistance.
05:05 PM on 03/13/2008
Thanks, erikh. Your points are accurate and illuminating.
03:48 PM on 03/13/2008
Actually, as the author points out, a large number of the Republicans voting for Hillary (in Texas and Miss.) favored McCain, whereas fewer who voted for Obama do. And about the same percentage of republicans who voted for Hillary stated that they'd not be satisfied if she won the election.

You can study the exit polls and see for yourself.
02:50 PM on 03/13/2008
I'm a lifelong Republican, and I voted for Hillary. It wasn't just an insincere tactical calculation. I could vote for her, depending on how things morph going into the general election.


The biggest problem for Dems isn't that Hillary and Obama are tearing each other down. The biggest problem is that traditionally the nominees slant a little more extremist in the primaries and then move back toward the center for the general election. If this primary keeps going on and on, neither Obama nor Hillary will have time to maneuver back to the center.


I don't like McCain. He's the embodiment of almost everything that's wrong with the Republican party. I respect him on several issues, but I can say the same thing about Hillary.


To me, the only big thing stopping me from voting for a Dem at this point is the war in Iraq. We need to bring it to a responsible conclusion. We can't just yank out troops out and leave a gaping hole there for extremists and sectarians to fill. Doing so would hurt our image even further around the world, and we would soon be forced to re-invade to try to put a lid on all the problems.


If Dems would simply run on balancing the budget and on ending the war responsibly, I would vote for them in a second. Neither will do that. But at least I believe that Hillary could be a competent President. Obama is just a joke. If I want to hear a sermon I'll go to church. Obama offers hope, but I don't want to just hope the President will be able to do something. I want someone that I can be confident in their ability to implement reform. Nothing about Obama's experience, his policy positions, or his speeches convince me that he can possibly do that.


He practically admits it. His slogan is "Yes we can". That's all well and good if you have 80+% approval for your policies. But on the major issues of our time, the country is much more divided than that. There simply won't be a WE to do anything unless he can bridge the gaps. And there is a major, major disconnect between his rhetoric of unity and his policies of the same old tired socialism. If he thinks he can talk his way past all the details, he would be the most incompetent leader possible. People aren't just going to lay down for him. And with Republicans in the minority, they'll be spoiling for a fight, not looking to join the new empty suit on his crusade.
09:33 AM on 03/14/2008
Why do you think the Republicans, who are already playing out an obstructionist game plan, would unite under Hillary and allow her to get things done? I think if we want a president who can implement some changes, we shouldn't start with a president who will ellicit knee jerk negative responses from Republicans from the get go.
09:50 AM on 03/14/2008
Of course a republican would favor Clinton she has voted with them often enough ! In 2000 the supremes "selected" a moron for president , a guy who had never even travelled outside the US and could not tell the difference between Iran and Iraq on the map, thats what I call buying a pig in a poke ! After 7+ years of incompetent. corrupt, deceitful government the people need hope and Obama gives us the hope that we have not seen since the Kennedy brothers !
02:47 PM on 03/13/2008
Limbaugh and the Clintons are jaded corporatists and probably combine their interests more often than we know. I remember that Rush was squabbling with the Christian right during Clinton's trial in the Senate arguing that it was wise to keep him in because the baggage that he represented was a political asset for Republicans. somehow Rush and Bill Clinton have always been chums.
09:36 AM on 03/14/2008
Didn't the Clintons meet with Richard Mellon Scaife last year sometime? I believe they left a New York City lunch practically arm in arm.
11:51 AM on 03/15/2008
They met in April. Apparently they are now good friends. Interesting timing, what with Hillary running for president.
02:34 PM on 03/13/2008
The Limbaughs of the world know that Hillary has about as much chance as a bat out of hell of winning the Democratic nomination and so why risk so much for such a disappointment. Sure they want to keep her in a while to give McCain a handicap that he obviously needs. Do they want to indulge their appetite for Machivellian hubris? Why sure! Their candidate has won a boring race by a group of very lackluster candidates, and what else is there to do to ensure their own relevance. That's what its all about. Does anyone seriously think that McCain with all the handicaps in the world can win in November. Nein. Then what is afoot. Limbaugh and his cohorts are trying to disguise the relults that show the Republicans have slud into irrelevance. They can diss the totals showing McCain receiving a fourth of fifth of the Democratic turnout by saying that large numbers of the true blue goppers have voted Democratic. It is one more coverup for a party in disarray.

The NRCC Campaign chair challenged the Republicans in Illinois to win by saying that the loss of Hastert's seat was the end of the GOP.. Now they are trying to claim the Democratic victories as a way of distracting from their humiliating defeat in Illinois. Indeed they want a continued bloodfest in the Democratic race to bloody Barack enough that his coattails may be shortened a bit.

Will it work? Like most poorly thought out deserate ploys, it will likely backfire as Senator Obama demonstrates to his supporters glee that he has swamped the Clinbaugh coalition. Many of the Rush advised Republicans may in the finale of this memorable election, like the Conformist forget to reregister Republican.
11:48 AM on 03/13/2008
And they're ruthless and underhanded, yet some still want a third term out of them. Why oh why???
10:46 AM on 03/13/2008
It is incredible how naive Democrats are, particularly those that write articles and comment on this blog. Let me offer an alternative perspective on what the Republicans, through their spokespeople, are doing in regard to the Democratic nominating process.

In the beginning when it became evident that Obama had some traction, universally the vast rightwing conspiracy of journalists and media personalities came out with glowing commentaries on Obama. Why? Possibly because of a never sated enmity for all things Clinton....or quite possibly the RNC as directed by Karl Rove felt that liberal sentiment might allow Obama to triumph over Hillary but in a general election Obama is a much more vulnerable candidate than Hillary. The list of conservative mouthpieces supporting Obama is eye opening and in need of serious scrutiny. They helped promote the Obama campaign ceaselessly, piling on all of the criticisms about Hillary and Bill that emerged on the way. This was not due to some sudden emergence of a conservative conscience, compelling them to do the right thing. They felt the republican, who ever he turned out to be, could beat Obama. Maybe as a function of race. Maybe inexperience. Maybe there is some entirely disqualifying issue that will emerge in the general election.

Now that the Democrats are intractably tied to Obama as he is more than likely the designated candidate, these very same RW mouthpieces have begun to recognize the emptyness of the Obama rhetoric, or the missteps he has made, or his inexperience and they have swung to support Hillary. Why? It is to the benefit of the Republicans to promote and extend this divisive campaign for as long as possible. Both Hillary and Barack will emerge damaged goods. That is why the RW spokespeople have come out for Hillary at this point. That is why Limbaugh recommended that the Republicans go out and vote for Hillary. Not because they are afraid of Obama. No, not a chance. Extending the primary season for the Dems serves the Republicans purpose. And they have decided that an Obama Candidate in the end also serves the Republican purpose.

No wonder the Democrats consistently take their own lemonade and pee in it. I fear we are lining up for another disappointing National election and this one means more than ever.
09:41 AM on 03/14/2008
Isn't that exactly what this article is about?
10:19 AM on 03/14/2008
Some of your points are legitimate and have been argued before. By Nov it will not only be about the economy but the Iraq occupation as well and there is very little difference between Clinton and Mc Crazy when those votes were counted. I believe the repigs fear Obama and the voters he has brought into the process not to mention the independents that do not want another 4 years of endless costly war and lies !
10:45 AM on 03/13/2008
And, if you look at the exit polls from Texas, you see that 52% of the voters thought Obama was more electable in November and only 40% thought Hillary was. That tells you something too.
10:28 AM on 03/13/2008
Since people seem to enjoy being politically incorrect, how about these politically incorrect truths about voters:

Democratic Coalition: 90% of Blacks, 75% of Jews, 60% of Hispanics, 60% of Asians, 40% of Whites
Republican Coalition: 60% of Whites, 40% of Hispanics, 40% of Asians, 25% of Jews, 10% of Blacks


Traditionally republicans win they can push their share of the white vote up above 60%. Democrats win if they can keep their share of the white vote from falling into the 30s. If Obama looses because of his race, it will look like a traditional 'white-flight' Democratic loss. However, Hillary is offering the uniqe chance to hold on to the white vote and loose by driving the black vote under 90% instead.