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John McQuaid

Posted: May 29, 2010 01:56 PM

NRO and Mother Jones Get Hurricane Katrina Wrong

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The Deepwater Horizon disaster has put a renewed media and political focus on the significant government failures of Hurricane Katrina, including the collapsed, flawed floodwalls and levees that put most of New Orleans underwater. There's also an HBO drama now featuring John Goodman's impassioned, expletive-laden speeches on that man-made disaster. The New York Times Public Editor recently devoted part of a column to discussing the subject.

But for some reason, a selective amnesia still dominates on this topic. Take a look at this blogosphere exchange between NRO's Yuval Levin and MoJo's Kevin Drum:

Levin says, essentially, Katrina was an act of God for which no government could have been prepared, and, under the circumstances, things weren't so bad:

I think it's actually right to say that the BP oil spill is something like Obama's Katrina, but not in the sense in which most critics seem to mean it.


It's like Katrina in that many people's attitudes regarding the response to it reveal completely unreasonable expectations of government. The fact is, accidents (not to mention storms) happen. We can work to prepare for them, we can have various preventive rules and measures in place. We can build the capacity for response and recovery in advance. But these things happen, and sometimes they happen on a scale that is just too great to be easily addressed. It is totally unreasonable to expect the government to be able to easily address them--and the kind of government that would be capable of that is not the kind of government that we should want.


I, and many others, have written on this many times before, but here goes. After Hurricane Betsy flooded parts of New Orleans in 1965, the federal government set out to build a hurricane levee system around the city, its suburbs, and other areas of south Louisiana. The message to inhabitants was: America has an obligation to protect vulnerable areas from catastrophic flooding; now you'll be safe. But this system was poorly constructed, using out-of-date measurements and technology. And some of its levees and floodwalls were built with flawed designs: they could not do what they were specifically designed to do. During Katrina, those structures prematurely collapsed, opening gashes in the system that let Katrina's storm surge inundate vast areas. The design flaws, the work of a private firm and approved by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, were responsible for the vast majority of New Orleans flooding during the hurricane.


The notion that "these things happen" and there's nothing we can do about it beforehand overlooks the history and the facts of the flood. Now, perhaps there is an NRO-friendly argument to be made that, given the scale of the challenge, we never should have undertaken to protect New Orleans from hurricane floods. I don't agree, but such a point would at least indicate a basic familiarity with the subject matter. Instead, Levin simply treats the disaster as an abstract argument for the pointlessness of emergency preparedness, which is an odd argument indeed.

I expected better from Kevin Drum. Alas, his response also ignores the levees-falling-down issue:

As Levin says, Katrina would have been an immense disaster no matter what. But it was far worse than it had to be because a conservative administration, one that fundamentally disdained the mechanics of government for ideological reasons, decided that FEMA wasn't very important. Likewise, the BP blowout was made more likely because that same administration decided that government regulation of private industry wasn't very important and turned the relevant agency into a joke. If you believe that government is the problem, not the solution, and if you actually run the country that way for eight years, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. But we shouldn't pretend it's inevitable.

He's right that the deliberate weakening of government institutions contributed mightily to both disasters. But it's just wrong to say Katrina "would have been an immense disaster no matter what." If some engineer, back in the 1990s, under time, budgetary, or political pressures, had not made the mathematical errors that later caused the walls to fall down, most of New Orleans would have been spared.

I realize levees are a lot less attention-grabbing than "Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job" - or the exotic mechanics of top kills and junk shots, for that matter. But this is an important issue, a significant failure of American knowhow and accountability that has never really been addressed by the government. That oversight will almost certainly lead to more disasters. It's essential context for understanding Katrina, emergency management, and government dysfunction in general. Don't leave it out, blogosphere.

This post first appeared on my True/Slant blog.

 

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QuintinJordon
The only constant in the universe - Change
12:05 PM on 06/03/2010
The author is correct. New Orleans ordeal can be blamed on the lack of government funding what they said they would fund. This occurred under Democrats and Republicans, it just happened on G.W. Bush's watch.

One can blame his slow respond, I have no illusions about that. However, can we not blame the Gulf Spill on the same government for dragging their feet on energy policies? The government and oil is so entwined, its sickening.

We are at fault as well. Have we really pushed for alternative fuels, or simple given lip service?

All are guilty. Throw away the key on mankind, and give it back to the other species.
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waldopepper
I'd tell you all about me if you were my friend.
04:11 AM on 06/02/2010
Please be more clear in the future. When I read NRO. I think National Reconnaissance Office. Not National Revue Online.

http://www.nro.gov/
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Puller58
Man of Mystery
01:29 PM on 06/01/2010
All well and good, but the track record for governmental infrastructure after the 1930s isn't reassuring.
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Bienville
Make levees, not war
01:38 PM on 06/02/2010
This sort of foolish statement fulfills the anti-govenment fantasy of some pretty delusional people.

Almost every paved road in the country was built since the '30s, by government. Also, almost every sewer and water treatment plant, almost every water pipe, and sewer pipe, and drainage pipe, by government. And, almost every major bridge, canal, dam and lock, built by government.
11:15 AM on 06/01/2010
We also need to consider that the cable news media is accountable for this devastating event. During the last election, oil drilling was central issue in the campaign, yet not one of the major news networks did a substantive or investigative report on oil drilling. Rather, they engaged in their usual practice, opinion mongering. Hold them accountable - part of the blame belongs with an apathetic press corp. - read this great blog on this issue, it is called, CNN: refracted culpability -
http://anelegantfeast.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/cnn/
10:26 AM on 06/01/2010
The problem of massive government and private corruption which is so much a part of our culture has greatly enhanced this disaster in the gulf if only because compromised regulators didn't even require minimal safety measures to be in place and greedy BP happily went along. The other problem is the incompetence of the Army Corps of Engineers which is legendary and which put New Orleans at great risk but we shouldn't ignore the corruption of the politicians that represent Louisiana as well. Of course Obama is not responsible for this disaster but it is his apparent indifference and weakness that is fueling the increasing disenchantment with him. People want strong leadership in a crisis and they feel they are not getting it from the president.
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jcwtts1
Elections have consequences
10:24 AM on 06/01/2010
Mother Jones got the natural disaster (as fact instead of nomenclature) wrong. But they are right about the two parties and the politics of this. David Vitter is up for re-election. He is going to win. Personal love of prostitutes aside, he is going to win after having done nothing for LA for the last two years. Why hasn't he? Because voting for the stim bill which could have easily included a massive upgrade for the levees, would also have helped the President. That is why Jindal was against the largest works bill in history too. Instead of being against the government when you don't need it and for the government when you do, also known as hypocrisy, how about doing the right thing for the country and also for your constituents in advance of the wet a s s hour?
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jcwtts1
Elections have consequences
10:23 AM on 06/01/2010
The leeves failed but I don't blame the federal government completely. The government of Louisiana had 40 years to undertake a fix for the badly designed levees. They didn't. At least not in a significant way. For example, right now, the repairs from the ACE are substandard according to people like Harry Shearer, and other NOLA activists. The problem is that the people who supposedly know these areas best refuse to appropriate the money for the fixes. Government is complicated. At various times the congressional delegation from LA has had a chance to get the money, get the changes in law that are necessary to force the ACE to do what you want. Best practices rather than cheapest solution. But they won't work across party lines. They play politics with their own state, and their own people.

BP is the same thing. Why isn't Vitter writing a bill to raise the liability? Why aren't the senators from AL, GA, FL, MS, TX, all republicans, jumping on board with him to find a response to the absurdly low fines and caps on damages BP enjoys? Because they are republicans and if they vote for this it will help the president. Think about how insane that is as a political strategy.
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Bienville
Make levees, not war
02:03 PM on 06/02/2010
How exactly would the State or City government have used those 40 years to reconstruct Federal property? Do you know what's wrong with the levees? How could that be the fault of anyone but the Federal government?

The repairs are substandard according to the Corps themselves. It is they that have labelled their proposal the "not technically superior solution." What could sound more substandard than that?
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jabailo
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12:14 AM on 06/01/2010
Why should a Federal Government be there to provide protection for people who live in what can best be deemed "vacation spots". Most telling was the 60 Minutes episode where a father takes his son around, post flood, to a landmark sign. It shows the height of the flood waters -- thirity years ago!

He then goes on to say how great it is to be living right near the beach and having such a great lifestyle...until the next flood hit. Unlike any rational person who would simply move to higher ground, he believed it was his chosen right to live in a disaster area and have the rest of us pay for his paradise.

In that sense, these yokels are no different from "Big Banks" or TAARP recipients. These grasshoppers want a party life...and they want us ants to pay for it!
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Michael Gene Sullivan
09:55 PM on 05/31/2010
It's not about big government or small, it's about the purpose of government. The Conservative movement sees the business of government as advancing the protections and promoting the interests of Business - as a sort of Chamber of Commerce with an army, whereas Progressives see the government as a service organization which uses our tax dollars to provide services to the citizens. The Conservative movement wants deregulation to free business to make the greatest possible profit, in the belief that we will all indirectly benefit if corporations succeed. Progressives feel government is the collective will of the citizens, that citizens should be the direct beneficiaries of all government programs, and that corporations should, at best, be secondary beneficiaries. The last thirty years have been an experiment in putting the needs of business first, and we are now reaping the whirlwind of that experiment. We are are no longer equipped structurally to prevent man-made disasters, deal with emergencies in the moment, or help our own citizens in need. But is there any doubt that, had this been a large corporation that needed immediate, emergency aid "our" government would have at least had a mechanism to address the crisis? Whether the government needs to be bigger or smaller is secondary to the need for the government to do it's job - to act in the best interest of the People, not in the interests of those who profit from it's inaction.
03:50 PM on 06/01/2010
Hi All,
Re the role of government: In a capitalist society, the role of govt, is to serve the interest of the capitalist class as a whole--in other words, the govt's role is to keep THEIR system (the collective interests of the richest class) intact. It is not a system for "the people" or the lower classes. In fact, the machinery of government, the courts, police, army, etc. are used to keep the lower classes in their subordinate place.
Of course, it is in the interest of the richest class to prevent its cities from floods and massive pollution. However, corruption and misuse of funds for imperialist war, etc. get in the way of efficiency. The lower middle class resents the dominace of the big capitalists and their system, hence we have Tea Party slogans against all government and taxes, etc. There are no significant differences between Republicans and Democrates on these points--just differences in rhetoric and phony appeals to different interest groups.
Jim Kawasaki
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Norman Rogers
http://www.anamericanlion.com/
04:35 PM on 05/31/2010
Well, what do you expect from a bunch of liberals? Science? Reason? Math?

All you ever get is snark. Well, snark won't put food on the table, sir.
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Bienville
Make levees, not war
06:08 PM on 06/02/2010
I'm pretty clear on the Science, Reason, and Math.

To what snark do you refer? I find Mr. McQuaid's piece to be completely accurate and rational.
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bimplebean
04:28 PM on 05/31/2010
My favorite quote from that piece: " If you believe that government is the problem, not the solution, and if you actually run the country that way for eight years, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy."

That's *exactly* what BushCo did.
05:08 PM on 05/31/2010
But Bush made the goverment even bigger.
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robadeaux
Your labels have expired....
08:11 PM on 05/31/2010
And he filled it with the most incompetent people he could find
03:00 PM on 05/31/2010
Expecting the government or BP for that matter to be able to stop the oil spill is like expecting President Bush to stop Katrina before it hit New Orleans. Even thought the oil spill resulted from human error, the aftermath is the result of natural forces that neither the government nor BP can control or contain. We've never had to deal with a disaster like this, and both BP and the government are making it up as they go. That's understandable. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

People watch TV shows that are, even with today's technology, mostly science fiction, and they believe that we have the capability to control everything and that everything can be fixed. That just isn't the case. We are still pretty helpless when it comes to natural disasters, even and especially those that occur because of human error.
05:09 PM on 05/31/2010
Dead on, the problem is that the goverment and BP should of been on the job stopping the spill hitting the beaches.
01:36 PM on 06/02/2010
"of" is not a verb.
07:56 AM on 06/01/2010
We are NOT 'pretty helpless' when it comes to natural disasters.

If the levees had been built properly, NOLA would have survived fairly well...

If the oil companies had been required to have a reasonable plan to prevent this disaster, and if the government had followed up to make sure it was in place, then the spill might not have even occurred.

It is true, however, that there occurs in every disaster, that moment beyond recovery, where it is simply too late to save the situation. That's where we are now.

But you are right, neither the government nor BP can now be expected to execute magic and make the problem go away.
01:43 PM on 05/31/2010
The blame game over New Orleans is going to be preplayed across the globe as cities around the world have been planned since antiquity without a thorough understanding of how the landscape changes over time. That was understandable in the days before modern understanding of earth processes, but here we are, well into the age when we know that land forms sink, deltas need sediment, channelization and flood control will eventually be overwhelmed, and climate changes and whether man made or not, there are still processes such as volcanoe and perhaps closer than we want to think, the ulitmate game changer in the form of cosmic events such as asteroid impacts. Instead of arguing who's at fault we should be building future cities that integrate geologic, climatic and even astronomical understanding while addressing the human instinct for an appreciation for nature. It can be done, but as with all great changes it may seem to slow and will surely be too slow if it is not also tied to education.
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Bienville
Make levees, not war
02:06 PM on 06/02/2010
What sort of role does astronomy play?
01:24 PM on 05/31/2010
I agree with you to a degree, but I still hope Obama and the Democrats take the same hit for this that Bush was hammered with after Katrina. Obama is certainly no less responsible for the continued devastation than Bush was for the post-Katrina problems.
leftcoastindy
Where did I put my MOJO
02:07 PM on 05/31/2010
I can think of dozens of things Bush could and should have done. Name at least one thing Obama should have done. To be compared to Bush, you need to name at least 3 or 4 things he should have done.
03:10 PM on 05/31/2010
Obama has accepted responsibility for his part in this disaster. I do not believe that Bush ever did so in the case of Katrina. If Bush had ever said, "I screwed up, and the government should have responded sooner. I'm sorry." I think that people would have forgiven him. I would have. But, he blamed everyone else. Republicans blamed Clinton, poor people who didn't evacuate, people who were stuck in the Civic Center, people who built their homes in the wrong places. They blamed everyone but themselves and the Bush administration. "Mistakes were made" is not the same thing as saying that "the buck stops with me."

As to Obama's being responsible for the continued devastation, that's absurd. BP, which is losing tons of money over this disaster, can't fix it. The military can't fix it. We don't have the science and technology to fix a deep oil leak from a blown-up oil rig that shouldn't have been drilling in the deep Gulf in the first place. That is the unpleasant fact that no one wants to admit.
garystartswithg
el sueno de la razon produce republicans
01:14 PM on 05/31/2010
didn't the army corp of engineers get a little spanking in court as they were the ones essentially found negligent?
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Bienville
Make levees, not war
06:13 PM on 06/02/2010
The Corps is immune to prosecution for failure of its flood control structures.

A small group won a judgement from the Corps for the way a navigation canal they built compromised a drainage structure. Some believe the judgement will be overturned on appeal. I hope not.