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Romney May Have Paid No Federal Income Tax From 1999 to 2001

Posted: 07/24/2012 8:00 am

Bloomberg Business News and the Washington Post are guessing that Romney may have paid near zero federal taxes in 2009 due to losses on his investments resulting from the financial crisis. They probably have the right idea, just the wrong year.

It is true that Romney suffered capital losses on his investments in 2009 that might act to shield much of his income in that year from taxes, but he would have to be a complete idiot to allow his tax planners to file a return showing no income taxes paid just as he was gearing up for a presidential run. But, then again, we are talking about someone who waited until 2010 to close his wife's Swiss bank account.

Much more likely to this writer is that Romney probably does have one or more years in his recent history where he paid near zero taxes, but the year in question is probably not 2009. Much more likely candidates are the tax years 1999 to 2001 when he supposedly left his high paying job at Bain and accepted a smaller $275,000 salary to head the winter Olympics in Salt Lake City. It is reported that once the Olympics showed a profit, Romney ended up donating his salary to charities, thus further lowering his reported income for tax purposes.

His lower salary and loss of some board member compensation would mean less current income to shelter from 1999 to 2001. But, his tax shelters would have lost none of their potency. He was already utilizing IRAs and 401(k)s to shelter much of his investment income, possibly worth as much as $100 million today, from taxes. He was already making use of numerous off-shore tax havens in the Cayman Islands and other foreign locations and admits to having had a Swiss bank account in his wife's name. He admits that he had a trust established for his children to shelter as much as $100 million more of his wealth from taxation. And much of his income came from Bain Capital private equity investment funds located offshore so much of their profits could be deferred for ten years or limited to a maximum tax rate of 15 percent, a special tax provision only available to private equity and hedge fund managers.

Also, the leveraged buyout business took a big hit in 1999 and 2000 as the country entered a recession so he likely had significant capital losses to deduct. This was followed in 2001 by the dotcom collapse. As a large wealthy investor it is likely he was being put into numerous IPO's available only to the well-connected and many of these high-tech investments most likely soured in 2001 leading to further tax deductible capital losses.

Some may argue that someone who donates his salary to charity or has investment losses deserves to pay no taxes. But, they are missing the point. Romney's vast personal fortune of between $100 million and $200 million at the time was accreting at some 20 percent per year so how should he able to avoid paying taxes on the $20 to $40 million of dividends and interest income and profits and capital gains he must have been receiving on his investments? Donating a $275,000 salary to charity is chump change compared with avoiding taxation on tens of millions of profits each year.

Of course, some will argue that this is all just speculation. What else are concerned citizens to do when a candidate for president, running on a platform of being business smart and the man to fix the economy, refuses to tell us how he made his money and whether he paid his fair share of taxes along the way?

Some may argue that this is all legal. That our laws allow for the wealthiest to accumulate $400 million plus fortunes and pay little to no taxes. But, that is exactly the point. Who do you think is writing our tax laws? It is the wealthiest of our country that are lobbying our government for tax breaks and making large campaign contributions to elected officials to ensure these tax breaks not only continue, but are amplified and extended. And who is their boy, Mitt Romney.


John R. Talbott is a best-selling author and economic consultant to families whose books predicted the housing crash and the economic crisis. You can read more about his books, the accuracy of his predictions and his financial consulting activities at StopTheLying.com

 
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eltearpdx
Que sera sera
08:06 PM on 07/31/2012
It is what we don't know that can really hurt us.

I'd prefer to see the facts, if Willard Mitt Romney would ever release his tax records. Y'all know he's really only just shared a single year, right? 2010 is still missing some key info on foreign holdings, and he's promised to let us see 2011's return. Sometime.

Gee must be pretty complicated if your accountants can't get 'er done yet.

Meanwhile, legislation is in the works to make sure we get to see 10 years of all presidential candidate's tax forms AND the disclosure of foreign accounts. Hint: it is not the Republicans who think this is a reasonable idea.
07:59 AM on 07/26/2012
If one conducts a poll using these Huff posts it is time for Romney to throw in the towel.
07:56 AM on 07/26/2012
Many Americans are tired of the black guy and want him gone thus it seems Romney is the teflon man and nothing sticks to him. About the same happened in 08 when the nation was tired of republican leadership and the black man was the messiah.
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SPQR1775
07:48 AM on 07/26/2012
Mitt is the best candidate that the GOPT could have elected. In moving the goal post they selected a tax cheat and a registered lobbyist. Romney DID NOT save the Olympics. The Bush administration used him as a Mormon face to save Utah. He then register as a Lobbyist; took bribes as they were already doing and then he lobbied the Goverment for BAIL OUT MONEY for the Olympics. YES, the guy is worst than Palin and she wasn't qualified either. LMFAO, YES! Vote NO!!!! on the Myth!
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BloodyBuddyBoyd
06:30 AM on 07/26/2012
Even without ever seeing another tax document other than those already released, the man should have been eliminated already based on what we do know.

Mitt had the US taxpayers pay $77,000 for upkeep costs/depreciation on his wife's dancing horse! Stars and garters! What does it take raise a little outrage amongst the cloth coat Republicans?

Romney grins and jokes about the wife's horse like it is an amusing little hobby or pastime. An adorable affectation and endearing side of the little lady's nurturing side giving hugs to her pony.

That you and I are paying for to the tune of $77,000 a year. How could anyone, seriously, vote to elect such a cretin to the office of President of the United States?
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sidesjw
TRUST US MITT
05:51 AM on 07/26/2012
I watched Fox and Friends and then went to Wendesday Revival Services and heard nothing about this. It must either be insignificant or an outright lie. I'll let you know what I am told to think about this Sunday after lunch.
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Qballe
Socially Liberal,Gun owning Carnivore
07:06 AM on 07/26/2012
love it! F&F
02:32 AM on 07/26/2012
Aw, c'mon, folks. Mitt's a "job creator". You can't be expecting him to pay taxes like the little people. If he has to pay 10 or 15 percent in taxes how in the world do you expect him to go on creating all those jobs. After all there are thousands of Chinese coolies depending on him. Give the poor guy a break!
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Sam Bark
It's a MAD world after all...
01:47 AM on 07/26/2012
Mr. Talbott - and why this is relevant to the presidency election or selection? on theother hand since the community organizer run to Senate and Presidency, he became a millionaire..... I wonder how, NOT from buliding a business or running a venture.....
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eva belle
Kolob a-calling
03:01 AM on 07/26/2012
At the very least, he never hurt anybody while raking in his millions.
07:16 AM on 07/26/2012
Primarily, he wrote books and many were sold...you got a problem with that? Have you discovered that President Obama is stashing his book proceeds somewhere foreign and away from US tax laws?
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AVE8R
Dream beyond the barriers...
01:37 AM on 07/26/2012
Behind every great fortune there is a crime - BALZAC - This quote appears in Book I of The Godfather. What crimes is Romney hiding?
10:33 PM on 07/25/2012
Romney the closest you will get to the WH is as ia tourist.

Our banks here are not good enough for Mr. Romney the business man that lies.
03:12 AM on 07/26/2012
how come our banks aren't good enough for Pelosi, Debbie W. Shultz, and Valerie Jarrett?
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pmoschetta
Where are the Jobs, Speaker Boehner?
07:57 AM on 07/26/2012
How come what Pelosi, Wasserman-Shultz and Jarrett matter, ibbi7146?

They aren't running for president. But using your logic, we could ask the same question to Boehner, McConnell and Cantor
All three have foreign investments as well
10:28 PM on 07/25/2012
Mitt Romney who prefers to be called to be CHA CHING with all his knowledge of offshore banking and skirting tax laws the only way you and your Wife will see the WH is as tourist
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eva belle
Kolob a-calling
03:02 AM on 07/26/2012
His foreign bank accounts frankly have more foreign policy cred than he does.
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UpBone
Mr. 101
10:24 PM on 07/25/2012
He'd prefer you go with whats in his heart, not his tax returns...
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eva belle
Kolob a-calling
03:02 AM on 07/26/2012
Problem is it's hard to tell what's in his heart, because the contents keep changing, through his words, depending on what he is trying to sell you. NOT FIT FOR THE PRESIDENCY!
10:01 PM on 07/25/2012
Ann Romney tells the American people we are stupid and would not inderstand the tax returns
10:00 PM on 07/25/2012
I lost money but paid taxes

Romney must release 12 years of tax returns
03:13 AM on 07/26/2012
obama must release his sealed records
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Qballe
Socially Liberal,Gun owning Carnivore
07:10 AM on 07/26/2012
name a single Pres or Pres. Candidate that EVER released college transcripts.

this ideas is simply the re-birth of the post- birther nonsense.
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tomcat21
09:44 PM on 07/25/2012
I wish I didn't have to pay any federal income taxes...