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Time to Choose Sides in the Occupy Movement

Posted: 10/26/11 12:31 PM ET

Overnight, the police in both Oakland and Atlanta forcibly tried to shut down the Occupy movements in those cities.

The reaction of Oakland police was extreme, firing beanbag rounds and flash canisters into the crowd and launching tear gas at them and driving them from a park they had occupied for two weeks. Atlanta's finest were more peaceful as they just arrested all fifty people occupying a park in downtown Atlanta and handcuffed them and carried them off to jail, but the result was the same, a metropolitan police force at the direction of its mayor attacked its own citizens for peacefully assembling and protesting its government. If this had happened in China or Syria, our state department would be filing letters of protest as we speak.

Some rogue elements in the Oakland crowd did not act perfectly as they were evicted. We are not all saints. There are reports of some flipping off police in Oakland and one report of someone throwing paint on the police. But, in Atlanta, everyone behaved beautifully but the result was the same.

The powers that be, the banks, the big corporations and our two terribly corrupted and bribed political parties, are beginning to feel the heat of this movement that refuses to be labeled or controlled. Unlike the Tea Party that wanted to work within the Republican Party to accomplish reform, the Occupy folks have made it clear they want to operate outside the two political parties. This is a threat to both political parties.

We have lived for thirty years now with banks and big corporations exercising an inordinate amount of power in our economic lives and using their vast economic might to capture our politicians, rewrite our laws and the rules we live by and do possibly permanent damage to our democracy. The current global economic crisis is a direct result of this power surge into politics and governing by these banks and corporations and their removal of regulations meant to protect the country and its people from their greed and recklessness, something not lost on the Occupiers. But now, the stakes have been raised. If these powerful banks and corporations and corrupt political parties and local and federal governments are going to use physical force to try to control the people, it is time each of us made a decision as to what side of this fight we wish to be on.

After Mayor Daley had his police attack demonstrators at the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago, many naïve Americans assumed that if the police reacted violently they must have had good reason, they must have been provoked. Today, the question remains, have we learned from our past? Do we now understand that there is no place in America for its police forces to use violence against its own citizens exercising their rights of free assembly and free speech?

You don't have to agree with everything the Occupy movement stands for to lend your support. But we must put an end to this police-instigated violence. Speak out against it. Tell your friends you think it is wrong. Write your mayor and your congressman. And if you are still too afraid to join the movement, at least get out of your recliner and come down to your local Occupy movement to see what all the fuss is about. You need to see for yourself what democracy of and by the people looks like. I can assure you the corporate-owned media, dependent on banks and corporations as their advertising sponsors, are not going to televise a fair picture of what is happening into your living room. As they say, the revolution will not be televised. You need to get involved. To date the protesters have been working selflessly for you and your family, it is time you returned the favor.

John R. Talbott is a best selling author and economic consultant to families. You can read more about how he will work One on One with you on your financial situation at www.stopthelying.com.

 
 
 
 
 
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09:20 AM on 10/27/2011
I choose to agree with the message, but will never say I am one of them. They are to embarrassing and disrespectful. If they acted like the TP, then I would at least respect them.
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ydrittmann
Vitter patronizes women.
02:31 PM on 10/27/2011
So they should carry guns and hold signs depicting the President as a monkey?
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batguano
As Long As Grass Grow, Wind Blow & The Sky Is Blue
09:12 AM on 10/27/2011
Hired goons have done the bidding of rich & powerful throughout history, busting heads, killing, & arresting anyone with integrity & courage challenging the Plutocracy/Oligarchy; times have changed, but not necessarily the role of the goon & those who direct them; enforcement serves the ruling elite primarily, not the people. George Santayana taught us: “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”. Fill-in your own example of historical time & place; the first American Depression & voices against larceny of the banks & foreclosures (thefts) of that time are representative in our time.

The new CBO report shows the 1% increased their wealth 275% over past 30 years, & with it ability to buy more elections, legislators & legislation to further empower/enrich themselves. OWS is a threat to that reality & the rich will use their bought & paid for legislators, mayors, media to try to silence the hundreds of thousands of voices raised to say “we’re mad as hell & we aren’t going to take this anymore”.

The very foundations of Democracy & our Republic are threatened by increased wealth & power in fewer & fewer hands; those whose moral compass has ceased to function; we must end that threat!

Zuccotti Park is epicenter of the OWS Earthquake; if suppression & attacks on others is allowed to succeed, the Plutocracy may act in NYC; we must see that does not happen! Remember Oakland!

THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!

OWS!
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supersajin
Ron Paul Democrat
09:06 AM on 10/27/2011
The author clearly understand the movement. It is time America to choose sides. Who are you with the people (not corporate personhood) or the corporations (who control washington)?

Within days or weeks each and every one of you may have to make this decision...choose wisely!!
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sonoflars
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional
08:48 AM on 10/27/2011
Movements are predictable. They begin when a group within a society is being treated unjustly. What a movement does is advocate for justice. Think back to the suffragist movement that got women the right to vote or the civil rights movement. It's about advocacy and tactics. If we ignore a movement, the movement will escalate the tactics until justice is achieved. The most extreme example is the Palestinian movement which continues to escalate their tactics. Here's my bottom line. We are going to have either an evolutionary change to a political and economic system that works for people again or we are going to have change resulting from a revolution. There isn't a third option. Remember, we have 300 million guns in America. This isn't going to stay non-violent for long.
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rothomaha
The Truth will out
07:42 AM on 10/27/2011
The problem is that the police represent the muscle which protects the status quo which, in turn, is represented by the banks and the corporations. The middlemen are the politicians who have been so bought out by the former two that they no longer represent the people who elect them. Hence, the confrontation is not between the police and the demonstrators, but between the haves and the have-nots with the cops representing the "haves". There will be no peace to be had by appealing to the politicians, because they are a part of the problem, rather than arbiters of a solution. OWS may not be the organization to put an end to all of this corruption, but sooner or later there will be an end, and the longer it takes for it to arrive the uglier it will be. Centuries of corruption and oppression of the working classes have a way of generating quite a reaction - the Bastille, the Russian wine cellar, and the Shah, for example. Not always how we want it to end, but when control is lost there is no predicting it. But the monied class will NEVER negotiate in good faith, so it is inevitable.
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batguano
As Long As Grass Grow, Wind Blow & The Sky Is Blue
09:18 AM on 10/27/2011
On the money! I've been trying to say much the samere who protects who, but it has been erased by "the guardians". F&F
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rothomaha
The Truth will out
04:00 PM on 10/27/2011
Thanks - I was speaking for all of like mind!
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Robert Frank
My last name is FRANK so thats what I am..
07:15 AM on 10/27/2011
unfortunately where I live the people are too stupid to protest anything...I'm sure you can guess its an overwhelmingly republican/conservative and bible-thumping state
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NCScientist
St. Ronnie raised taxes eleven times...
09:16 AM on 10/27/2011
That doesn't mean they won't be swept up in the tide of history though. :)
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Anym
Obama is GoldmanSachs
12:42 AM on 10/27/2011
You can't be neutral on a moving train.
11:47 PM on 10/26/2011
I chose sides as soon as they came on the scene after Obama set the scene. When are people going to wake up and see that if Obama accuses someone of a bad action or word, he is the one that is guilty of the abuse. I'm having a very difficult time watching this administration just roll all over every thing that is right and replace it with
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Shauni Waterdragon
Squeak now or forever hold your peas.
08:57 PM on 10/26/2011
"As they say, the revolution will not be televised."

I finally understand exactly what that means because here it is. Power to the People! We are the 99%!
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ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
06:56 PM on 10/26/2011
Vagrancy is a crime, subject to arrest and prosecution. If you think this helps OWS you are wrong.

I was born in 1950, protested Vietnam. Disorder hurt our cause, turned adults against us. Chicago in '68, even Kent and Jackson State: voters sided with police, and will again. A promise of "law and order" elected Nixon. Disorder allowed Hitler to take power. Most voters prefer a police state to disorder.

Yes this will radicalize the youth, it did to us Boomers, but they are a minority of voters. There are likely twice as many voters over 40 as under. They have kids, jobs, mortgages. They don't want to destroy the system, they rely on it. Expect voters to support the police, not OWS.
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usna73
We are all in this together
07:51 PM on 10/26/2011
I fear that you are correct. There must be a strong non-violent movement led by a group of major politicians who will stake their careers on it, maybe even their lives. Or, Pres. Obama has to risk his 2012 campaign to the effort. I vividly remember 1968. My parents were life long Democrats who supported RFK in his bid for the nomination before his horrible murder. My folks and I were horrified by some of the actions by the far left, knowing that it would cause the backlash which you refer to.

It is with great irony that I note that Nixon claimed that he "had a secret plan to end the war in Vietnam and of course, he was elected, not once but twice. I think he even fooled my folks, though I can't believe that they would have voted for him. I'm sure they didn't.

We are real trouble and we need a cohesive movement to turn things around. Leadership must emerge to give the OWS real credibility.
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satanlite
Liberal blogger
08:41 PM on 10/26/2011
It's not about being arrested. Never has been. It's about the way the arrests are done - INFLICTING AN ATTACK, then the arrest. They can walk right up to OWS protestors and arrest them without violence. The police are ASSAULTING THEM then arresting. Even if your world is one messed up neocon nightmare you may still have enough humanity left to see that can't be tolerated in a civil society.
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ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
10:43 PM on 10/26/2011
Except the majority of people will just know that OWS created a riot in Oakland. They don't have time to learn more about it. But no OWS, no riot, so it makes it pretty simple for them: Do you support riots? No, end of discussion.

The mistake is believing that you can force people to change by making life uncomfortable. That's just what bin Laden thought, but in fact he got a regressive reaction that killed him and will destroy his movement. Force never wins. People are not cowed by protests, they react against them. You make them sit in traffic jams, they will hate your movement forever. Bullying doesn't work.
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lenguss
06:35 PM on 10/26/2011
You're right. Its time to choose sides and I am totally against these freaks with their varying signs, lack of baths, urinating in the streets and generally acting like the pigs they are in front of TV and Democrats who have the judgement of mice.
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07:45 PM on 10/26/2011
See that you have bought the media meme hook line and sinker....
08:32 AM on 10/27/2011
Wait! The media is left-wing and loves the Occupy movement. But even they have to tell some of the truth. The Occupy movement is violent in that it takes over space that is for everyone to use, creates filth, and forces the police to monitor it and denies anyone else the right to be peaceful themselves. The Occupy Oakland protestors wanted to be arrested, violated the law, and their "peaceful" protest was designed to force police action. They succeeded in creating violence rather than just going home, taking a bath, and coming back the next day.
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satanlite
Liberal blogger
08:42 PM on 10/26/2011
Nice lil' corporate charly.
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drbob601
Soylent Green is People
06:20 PM on 10/26/2011
"“The Money Powers prey upon the nation in times of Peace and Conspire against it in times of Adversity; it is more Despotic than Monarchy, more Insolent than Autocracy, more Selfish than Bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes…I see in the near future a Crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to Tremble for the Safety of my Country. Corporations have been enthroned. An Era of Corruption will follow and the Money Power of the country will endeavor to Prolong it's Reign by working upon the Prejudices of People until the Wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."

- Abraham LincolnCorporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money powers of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few, and the Republic is destroyed. “

Abraham Lincoln
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Ellamenta
Oh no! My microbio has gone viral!
05:39 PM on 10/26/2011
Thank you for saying this. Please keep on saying it. We don't want another Kent State.
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Dredd
Our government is a wartocracy.
05:36 PM on 10/26/2011
The violence will stop when the plutocrats order it to be stopped but not before that.

They rule.

That is life in a plutocracy where their plutonomy money talks and "bullsh*t" walks.

http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2011/09/homeland-big-brother-plutonomy.html
04:42 PM on 10/26/2011
If you lived in a country in which you had no solution other than protesting outside of the system it would be one thing. Protests like this in China are brave. In the US it makes you seem like a child who is throwing a tantrum. There are ways to spread awareness without breaking laws and throwing rocks at police officers when you are relieving yourselves on their cars. Then when you get arrested playing the victim. Such actions don't win you support. They entrench your own side and make them even more delusional because they make the mistake of trusting you. You want to change things in this country? The tools are right in front of you. You don't need to occupy public space and break laws. So why is that what is being done here?
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mc1135
05:48 PM on 10/26/2011
If the "tools" were right in front of us, why would people be protesting in the first place? Also, how can you say occupying public space is breaking the law when the 1st amendment guarantees this right? You do realize that no city ordinance can trump a Constitutional right don't you? Not every protestor is a law breaker.... How would YOU like to be characterized as such when YOU choose to protest something legitimately? You sound someone who enjoys slavery.
10:09 AM on 10/27/2011
They are protesting because they became infatuated with the Arab Spring (which is politically unapplicable to the USA) and want to have their own electronic media revolution and peer accolades.

They didn't come up with this -- Canadian based, anti consumerist and anti American Adbusters did and is still calling the strategic shots.

LOL

They don't have the wherewithal to pull it off.

The danger is that co-opters -- notably the unions -- have the ability to escalate violence.
10:48 AM on 10/27/2011
Re-read the constitution/first amendment for content and context..

Federal CONGRESS cannot legislate STATE law.
06:19 PM on 10/26/2011
Brother, you have no grasp of our Constitution.
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satanlite
Liberal blogger
08:43 PM on 10/26/2011
The constitution only matters when it's working for them.
09:43 PM on 10/26/2011
Sorry, you don't have a grasp either. You do have a right to assemble/protest. But that does not mean you have the right at anytime any public place you want to. Can you protest in the White House. I don't think you'll get that far if you try. How about a government building when it is closed. Can you protest in there. No.
If the park is closed, the police can order you to leave. Disobeying the police will lawfully get you arrested.