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John Shore

Posted: November 29, 2010 05:40 AM

If you've committed an offense against your wife so egregious that she's now more likely than not to divorce you, do these things:

Let her be
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Respect her need to process this alone. If she wants your input, she'll ask for it. Otherwise, let her alone. She's imagining her life without you now. Let her do that, unencumbered by interference from you, the cause of her despair.
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01:33 PM on 12/22/2010
Reading this and similar texts humorlessly assuming male submission should be the norm, I often wonder why the rate of homosexual males is so low.
01:36 PM on 12/23/2010
Did you notice the lead in? It's about men who have done a woman totally wrong and she is about to divorce him. In that case - he should be submissive. Homosexuality is DNA encoded - not determined by if your wife divorces you or not.
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armedandliberal
Recovering Baptist
08:13 PM on 12/21/2010
#11 If ever you wanted to make a move on her sister now is the time, You have nothing to lose.
10:55 PM on 12/07/2010
Women need to get more empowered. Work itI
04:12 PM on 12/03/2010
This is moronic. It had to have been written by an angry jilted woman. Divorce is never all one-sided. I guarantee you if the woman thinks she's a saint and that the man's a devil, she's going to be wrong at least 50% of the time.

Better advice:
1) Can you save the marriage?
2) Do you want to?
3) What are you willing to do to save it.
4) If you don't want to save it, what do you need to do?
5) If you DO want to save it but probably can't, what do you need to do to move on?
6) If she's divorcing you, your obligation to do for her will be decided by the court, you don't need to flagellate yourself.
7) Nobody's perfect. She may CLAIM to be but unless you are an out-and-out crook and she's not, she's got some blame to
8) Even a friendly divorce is ugly. And an ugly one is bloody. Be ready.
9) Get a good, smart lawyer, not a cheap one.
10) You can't but try to keep the kids from becoming a battleground.
03:19 PM on 12/14/2010
PS: I've never been divorced, (and am not planning on it) but my wife and several of our sibs and relatives have, as well as friends. Done plenty of hand-holding, phone-commiserating, and strategy/tactical planning.
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atexasdem
Pointing out the foolishness of republican voters.
02:57 AM on 12/03/2010
My " Ten things to do if she's about to divorce you.
1) Clean out the bank account.
2) Try to get incriminating pictures or witnesses.
3) Turn everything into cash even if it means you take a hit and then immediatly, hide the cash.
4) Secretly hire a very good divorce lawyer without telling her.
5) Temporarily at least make as little money as you can.Quit your job. Reduce your income.
6) Try to find out if she has a secret bank account that she has hidden from you.
7) Sell anything you have of value then hide the money.
8) When she starts screaming and cursing at you, just smile.
9) When she starts screaming and cursing at you ask her if she could wait until later because there's a football game on you want to watch.
10) Did I mention cleaning out the bank account and hiding the money?
01:42 PM on 12/03/2010
11. Move to Arizona as their divorce laws are more favorable to men. Do not move to Washington state, they are the worst and they will even shaft you to pay for her attorney.
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livefortruth
There is only ONE truth.
09:30 AM on 12/05/2010
ac·ri·mo·ny   
[ak-ruh-moh-nee]
–noun
sharpness, harshness, or bitterness of nature, speech, disposition, etc.: The speaker attacked him with great acrimony.

I remember my attorney telling me, "the divorce will mirror the marriage".

—Antonyms
goodwill, civility, kindness, politeness.
04:41 PM on 12/06/2010
That's hilarious, but I can see how it's true!
04:24 PM on 12/01/2010
This means it's all the man's fault
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atexasdem
Pointing out the foolishness of republican voters.
12:33 PM on 12/08/2010
Everything's the man's fault. If you don't believe me ask my ex.
11:22 PM on 11/30/2010
I read this piece to apply to both members in a partnership whether man/woman, woman/woman or man/man. I also read this piece to appeal to partners who are truly in love and committed to saving a serious relationship from destruction due to an "offense so egregious" by one of those partners. The fact that the author wrote this from his own male perspective is a non-issue to me. Folks write what they know. The honest ones do, anyhow. I personally would and do write from a female perspective each and every time (it's simply the sturdiest place to put my foot when having to appeal to friends and strangers). That being said, I embrace the points made in this piece. Love is a force strong enough to erase the ego entirely, especially when that love is threatened. Pride and concern for "what people think of me" goes sailing out the window at the thought of something compromising this sacred thing I have with my husband. I adore this incredible man the same, magnificent, immeasurable way I adore my children. That being said, I would fight for the life of our union with as much strength and humility and time as it would take to fight for the life of one of my kids. It isn't "submissive" or "weak" to fight for our children. I don't find it demeaning in any way to fight for a partner who honors, protects and adores you.
08:35 PM on 12/01/2010
well put!
03:57 AM on 12/02/2010
I take your point but the problem here is half of the steps are totally counter productive to the objective of saving the relationship.
10:29 PM on 11/30/2010
ADVISE TIP # 11: Post these 10 advise tips on your refrigerator, learn them, momorize them backwards & forward, eat, sleep & breath them, all of them. This will let her know what a real weenie she married to begin with.

ADVISE TIP # 12: Forget advice tips 1-11
04:52 AM on 12/01/2010
No doubt.
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Endotoxin
Blast Corps
09:05 PM on 11/30/2010
The realistic edition (for Men):

1) Call your Lawyer. Immediately.

2) Arrange to sleep over at a friend/relatives place. Make long-term arrangements just in case.

3) Notify your job (if possible) you may need to take a few days off to handle personal issues.

4) If you were smart enough to get one, re-evaluate your pre-nuptial agreement. Review it with your Lawyer and make any revisions if need be.

5) Pending you do not separate indefinitely, make sure all of YOUR paperwork is in order. From this point forward you will be filing taxes separately.

6) If applicable, ask around and find out the local average child support rate in respect to the cost of living where you live as well as the area where your estranged wife's family lives in case she relocates. Contact your tax preparer/accountant and prepare a budget plan so that you can begin re-adjusting your spending habits and lifestyle. If you married a gold digger, think about transferring some of your savings into the hands of a relative to avoid getting cleaned out.

All in all, hopefully this will be just a phase...But in this day in age, prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

If you get over this hill, become best friends with your Lawyer. If he helps negotiate a better alimony/child-support rate that doesn't leave you eating bread crumbs, treat him for a beer afterwards.

Good luck!
04:37 PM on 11/30/2010
I have this article to thank for wasting a few minutes of my life. Why take the time to write an article to help men whom have done something horribly wrong in their marriage? Two wrongs don't make a right. If one spouse falls in a marriage, it doesn't give the other spouse the green light to do whatever they want. Bribing a spouse not to file for divorce by allowing dominating behavior is probably as healthy as the divorce itself; which is likely to come anyway.
04:53 AM on 12/01/2010
Word.
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Mark128
09:14 AM on 12/03/2010
Troo
04:00 PM on 11/30/2010
This is clearly only a list of ways to completely submit yourself and never stand up for yourself again. It should really be titled "how to give her complete control".

Let's also not forget this "egregious offense" a lot of times may only be an offense to her. So now they're asking you to admit that it was YOUR fault, and to then hand over complete control over everything to her if you want to stick around.
04:22 PM on 11/30/2010
i was thinking the same thing
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Cimms
Escaped from NC.
07:37 PM on 11/30/2010
Exactly. Do these steps or get a divorce? Give me the divorce.
02:34 PM on 11/30/2010
Remain submissive? That's why she's divorcing you! Hide all your money and go get a mean lawyer. Immediately.
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Cimms
Escaped from NC.
07:38 PM on 11/30/2010
Bingo. Though if you plan on being naughty, the money should already be hidden.
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Harvee Wallbanger
Republicans... I got no use for you.
02:10 PM on 11/30/2010
1. Cancel the credit cards. She'll run 'em up if she gets half a chance.

2. Move money to your own account. Do it before she does. But leave her half.

3. Lawyer up. Get the best attorney your can afford. One with a track record of fighting for men's rights.

4. Take your children and move into your own place. You have exactly the same rights to the children as she does. There is no custody agreement at this point. If you enroll them in a new school and get them settled in, odds are that the judge will keep the status quo during the custody hearing. This depends alot on what the children want too if older. Of course you let mom see them. But if its before you have a custody agreement and the children are young, make sure you supervise the visits to prevent her from kidnapping them. If she comes to your place to visit them, make sure you relock all the windows after she leaves.

Do it to get custody of the children. If you just want to hurt her or if you really don't want custody, then just leave and visit the children as much as she'll let you.

In short, do unto her before she does unto you.
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Reyeshawk13
Nothing to see here.
02:20 PM on 11/30/2010
Had a woman in our store the other day say, as she pulled out cash after her card was declined, "I left him a dollar in the account. Couldn't get that out."
05:17 PM on 11/30/2010
My apologies. Sounds like you have a bitch of an exwife. Personally, I am not a bitch. Some women aren't. To others: Don't assume she's a bitch til you have proof. Be as civil as possible. ESPECIALLY if you have kids and even if she IS a bitch.
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baxtron
tek phlarpt
02:09 PM on 11/30/2010
10 things to do if you are miserable but have a cute little dude for a son and can't bear to lose him.
joefoss
They'll never take my panache!
12:47 PM on 11/30/2010
Wow!
=What is this, "Marriage Counseling for Wimps"?
But, don't worry, if you're picking up signals that she wants a divorce, it's way too late for flowers & candy--or, even, "listening"--anyway.
=Women are great at concealing their intentions, especially from their husbands. So, by the time you start getting hints about an impending break-up, it's likely that she's already: a) hired a lawyer, b) cleaned out your "joint" bank accounts, and c) let her parents know that it's time to turn the "spare bedroom" back into "her" room (stuffed animals optional).
=And, that's another thing: be prepared to find out (when it's too late) that everyone knew about this before you--not just her half-dozen BFF's, but every one in her yoga class, most of the women in the P.T.A. and even the mailman.
=Incredible you say? "We're still having sex, for God's sake!" As if. Almost every guy I know who's been through getting "dumped" by the wife told me the same thing: the sex, in fact, was getting better just before the bombshell hit. What better way to keep you off-balance, and unawares?
=Of course, perhaps, it's just nothing; or, if it is something, it will pass. But, you'd be a fool not to
do some "damage control" just in case.
=Suggestion #1: Get to the Safe Deposit Box (if she hasn't already) and take out your essential papers--remember, it's difficult to fly even within the United States these days wihtout a passport!