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Give 'Em Hell

Posted: 05/27/11 11:23 AM ET

Taking the concept of hell out of Christianity is like taking the brandy out of eggnog. What remains is still sweet, substantive and majorly satisfying, for sure. But without that zingy, burning undertone, that certain dangerous something that tends to make people a little crazy, it's also a whole lot less fun.

Not that we Christians think of hell as "fun," of course. Especially not hell in the afterlife. But it'd be extremely disingenuous of us not to admit that here, in this life, hell provides us with all the justification we could possibly need (not, let's admit, that we need much) for being about as rude, intrusive, self-righteous and judgmental as we could possibly want to be.

And trying to pretend like being that way isn't at least a little fun is like trying to pretend that Bran Flakes are Sugar Frosted Flakes. Front fail.

Without rudeness, intrusiveness, self-righteousness and judgmentalism we would, for instance, have no gossip. So, I mean, you know: right there. That's what gossip is.

Can you imagine a world with no celebrity magazines? No TMZ? No talk shows? Even fewer soap operas? No reality shows?!

That's right: if it wasn't for Satan, we'd have no "Dancing with the Stars."

But you knew that.

I think we all know that.

The point is: our acceptance of the reality of hell means that we Christians get to -- that we're morally obliged to -- tell everyone who is not Christian how mind-bogglingly, ferociously, dangerously, insipidly, pitiably, absurdly wrong they are about pretty much every last thing in life that's of any critical value whatsoever.

Because if you're wrong about God, then there's not a whole lot left for you to be right about, is there? Being wrong about God means being wrong about the origin, nature and purpose of virtually everything. A person wrong about God is like a fish wrong about water: something's outlandishly awry -- and bound to get worse.

If you're a Christian, the doctrine of hell being a real place fully empowers you to tell complete strangers on the street (not to mention your neighbors, co-workers and shamefully errant family members) how much better, purer and more correct their lives would be, if only they would stop thinking and believing whatever nonsense they do, and start thinking and believing all the excellent stuff that you do.

Remain themselves? Bad.

Model themselves after you? Perfect!

My God (so to speak). It's all I can do at this very moment not to run next door and enjoin my neighbor to cook my awesome recipe for bow-tie noodles with asparagus and feta cheese.

It's the paprika that makes it special.

Is telling someone how lame their life is and how much better it would be if they thought and believed just what you do so rude that Donald Trump wouldn't do it? Well, no: Donald Trump would sneeze in your cocktail just to see that look on your face. But it is rude; it's phenomenally rude. Unless you're a Christian, that is. Then telling someone they're dead wrong about everything, and that they urgently need to become someone radically different than the person they are, is the opposite of rude, see. Then that's a loving thing to scream at them through a bullhorn.

And what makes it not just repelling obnoxious but loving for a Christian to try to convert others to Christianity?

Hell.

It's the hell that makes it special.

Without hell, there'd be nothing to save anyone from.

Without hell, the sole recommendation of Christianity would be the love of God proved through the atoning sacrifice of Christ on the cross.

Without hell, we could only point upward to the love of Christ, instead of downward to the wrath of God.

Without hell, Christians would be constrained and honored to have their relationships with others defined and informed by nothing so much as love, compassion, charity and altruism.

Without hell in the afterlife, Christianity would be all about this life: how to live, how to love, how to be with God.

Concerning themselves not a whit about the next life would free Christians to concern themselves solely with this life.

Also, without hell the Christian issue of universalism would vaporize. The real traction of the idea of heaven being exclusively for Christians lies in the attending conviction that everyone who dies not Christian is condemned to hell. Remove hell from the picture, and the Christian loses his reason for believing that God couldn't be just as pleased with a person of any other religion (or, gasp, no religion at all) as he is with Christians.

Isn't that a terrible thing to contemplate?

Thank goodness the concept of hell can in no way be challenged or undermined by reconsidering our interpretations of its biblical references, or by wondering what possible vested interest anyone who's ever had any power in Christianity might have in promulgating some of the oppressive, tyrannous, iron-fisted ideas about it that we've come to accept as true.

If we started down the road of questioning the validity of hell, who knows what kind of world we might end up with?

This is the third in a series of posts I'm doing about hell. The first is "What Francis Chan (And His Ilk) Get So Terribly Wrong About Hell." The second is "Is Hell Real? What Are We, Six?"

 
 
 

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iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
03:27 PM on 06/05/2011
Yet on the other side of the equation, knowing all the prohibitions about lying and how Our Creator hates it, would it be right to switch over to Satan's side to try to get people to do right? John 8:44 Does Our Creator want to be thought of as an evil God who will burn a human forever without letting them die just because he or she did not want to accept Jesus as his first and only spirit begotten son who came to earth to fulfill a special purpose and the only way to achieve forgiveness from even the original sin penalty? To see if the Scriptures really do teach a "hot hell" or not check them all out at the link below, print out the list, look them all up and ask on each one; Could God be trying to tell me in this verse that hell is a hot place where people burn and do not die? Mark each one, "yes" or "no" and come to your own right and honest conclusion.

http://www.truechristianityevangelism.org/hell.html
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researcher
11:55 AM on 06/05/2011
the eternal hell does not exist has never existed and will never exist. but: always a but: something best called hades or mental pain can and does exist. it is not punishment but a self inflicted form of mental punishment for past life deeds and mode of being in the world.

a total life review where a soul experiences not only their past life but the feelings of those they have harmed or hurt. this is a form of personal hell, a self inflicted hell of sorts. we have all done some level of harm to others often not even realizing this harm to others as we cannot feel their pain.

without this karmaic effect the soul would never progress. it is the law of cause and effect or what we sow we reap. fear sells and much of religion and indeed politics is fear. love is difficult fear is an easy sell.if americans have nothing else they have fear.

we used to look for commies under our beds now it is terrorists and socialists. what would the collection plate be without fear. as the good ministers say go home and pray to god how much you should give. that works every time not based on love but fear.
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04:52 PM on 05/31/2011
As I read more and more of these good intentioned bloggers, I see an obvious pattern that forces me to post a comment or two. There is this all out assault on traditional Christianity and its believers. Some of these bloggers are doing their part to "convert" Christianity to a milder, gentler and always loving shadow of what it’s supposed to be. The Jesus spoke of Hell more than He did about heaven, but some of these bloggers want to convince others that, "there is no hell". Some claim that Jesus has changed his mind about immorality (gay or heterosexual), because, "He loves all his children whether they are sodomites, drug pusher, pedophiles, murderers, mechanophiles or not. Some bloggers in their posts seem to imply that, 'It will be the Church that suffers unless it yields to the world's demands!" My position has always been this: no one is begging anyone to come to Jesus and no one is forcing it down a person's throat. This isn't a conversion game. The only on that is going to suffer are those fools who get caught up in the eloquent and persuasive words of the "good intentioned" blogger. AS it is written, "for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go by in it (Matthew7:13). I say, stick, with traditions and the Bible and not philosophy and speculation.
04:05 PM on 05/31/2011
Hi John

All religious thought can be classified into two distinct mutually exclusive classes – Monotheism
and Monism.

The school of Monotheism teaches that there is One God, the creator of all things including man.
However, man having sinned is separated from God, and, God provides a unique Way of Salvation to man for restore his/her relationship back to God. Without this salvation, man is doomed to eternal
separation from God in a place of great torment.

The school of Monism teaches that there is only one reality or thing or substance; everything else
is ‘maya’ or illusion. If we call this ‘one thing’ God, then man becomes God since there cannot be
God and man (two things or dualism).

So in the school of monism, we become God! The cycle of birth or reincarnat­ion is the
process/vehicle through which man unites into 'god'. In India monotheism developed under early
Christiani­ty as Saivism and Vaishnavism. Monism developed after the 8th c AD as a philosophy called Advaita. Advaita corrupted the monotheistic faith of the Hindus and led them into confusion of
pantheism. Advaita also robbed many like the VHP of logical thinking based on facts since everything else outside of this ‘one thing’ was maya.

So John, are you a monotheist or a monist? One cannot be both :-). This would help many understand where you are coming from.

Alex.
01:10 PM on 05/31/2011
You know you cannot be a reader of teh BIble or considered a serious student of it and deny the reality of hell. God saw fit to teach on it, so its one things we have to know about and understand, God can and will use any teaching in his word to draw people to him, even the reality of hell.