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John Shore

Christian vs. Non-Christian: Who Gets into Heaven? (VIDEO)

Posted: 02/21/11 06:42 PM ET

The argument upon which Christians most commonly rely by way of "proving" that only Christians can get into heaven is John 14:6, where Jesus says, "No one comes to the Father except through me."

But do those words really mean what Christians want them to?

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The argument upon which Christians most commonly rely by way of "proving" that only Christians can get into heaven is John 14:6, where Jesus says, "No one comes to the Father except through me." But ...
The argument upon which Christians most commonly rely by way of "proving" that only Christians can get into heaven is John 14:6, where Jesus says, "No one comes to the Father except through me." But ...
 
 
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10:52 PM on 04/20/2011
John,

woot! Sounds like Calvinism :3 Or, as I can parse it: we don't have a right to life, we don't know what is going to happen to us. We can, however, learn how the world works and use that to make our way through life.
01:45 PM on 03/31/2011
People are falling for this bad doctrine, clearly a twist . It's what people want to hear so they just except it. Sadly I do agree with a lot of his criticisms of so called "Christians".
Still it is heaven or hell, a pretty important thing so I would look into it a bit more then just accepting this blog's view of doctrine because it feels right,fits with the world's current view.
There are a lot of people who claim to be Christians who are not ,doesn't change the truth. It's even mentioned in the bible that people will call him Lord but they knew him not. Doesn't change the truth. You really shouldn't base your doctrine on one verse that is how they get twisted. What does the bible say over all? Isn't it important enough to at least research yourself?
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brandonslayton
11:39 AM on 03/01/2011
I love this! very good!
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kyosaku
Nothis non carborundum
10:57 AM on 03/01/2011
"It costs so much to be a full human being, that there are very few who have the enlightenment or the courage to pay the price...

One has to abandon altogether the search for security, and reach out to the risk fo living with both arms.

One has to embrace the world like a lover, and yet demand no easy return of love.

One has to accept pain as a condition of existence.

One has to court doubt and darkness as the cost of knowing.

One needs a will, stubborn in conflict, but apt always to the total acceptance of every consequence of living and dying."

From "The Shoes Of The Fisherman," by Morris West

I think Christ was one of those "full human beings." One phrase, taken out of the context of what is in the Bible; and in the writings that were not included; and the in context of HIs life, language and culture, has become mythical and should be taken with some doubt and a critical mind.
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ninetailedfox
banning people.....so childish
09:45 AM on 03/01/2011
As much as christians try to put window dressing on their religion (not liberal enough, try this sect) It comes across as off-putting. People keep talking about tolerance and diversity and pluralism, but for all the talk, I dont see christians backing off of non christians, In fact, I see a lot more mix and match christians that think, rather wrongly, that its ok for them to take the beliefs of others and incorporate them into their own practices. As another blogger said, if christianity cannot stand on its own, it is destined to fall, not only do I agree, I think its time for the old christian tree, and all branches of it, to fall with it. No more prasing christian leaders, no more giving christians recognition for good deeds, because the majority of christians make the whole thing look bad. Real bad.
02:22 AM on 03/01/2011
nobody. Instead of discriminating based on your ridiculous beliefs on the origins of humans and the universe, try to make a difference in your everyday lives. We only live on through our personal relationship and our children. There is no heaven or hell, it's all just hype. Make a difference in your environment.
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kyosaku
Nothis non carborundum
10:59 AM on 03/01/2011
On a really good day this is heaven. On a bad day...well
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Ira Meyers
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06:42 PM on 02/28/2011
I believe that when I die, my soul will go to a garage in New Jersey. It makes the same sense. In the mean time I will live my life loving my friends and family, and doing what I can to make this a better world.
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anastasiabeaverhousen
Time wounds all heels
08:42 PM on 02/28/2011
Fanned. If you look at the video and then look at the posts below, it's just so telling. The posters like the dear newyorker shown below are just like the character in the video - deer in the headlights...........
New Yorker
Roman Catholic, Anti-DEATH, Combat Vet, Sinner
08:28 AM on 02/28/2011
God wishes All Mankind to be saved, but we have the choice, and our Free Will God will recognize and honor. So choose God or evil, Water or Fire, as the quote I just posted (Luke 22 thru 29 Chapter 13) explains, NOT EVERYONE will be saved. God is our just judge, seek the Divine Mercy of Jesus, and be saved, or be Judged for your sins. You each get to choose where you end up next, Water or Fire !
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
05:35 PM on 02/28/2011
"Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies."





— Thomas Jefferson
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Packattack
09:58 PM on 02/28/2011
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
-- Susan B Anthony
New Yorker
Roman Catholic, Anti-DEATH, Combat Vet, Sinner
08:24 AM on 02/28/2011
He passed through towns and villages, teaching as he went and making His way to Jerusalem. Someone asked him, " Lord, will only a few people be saved ?" He answered them, "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for MANY I tell you, will attempt to enter but will not be string enough. After the master of the house has arisen and locked the door, then will you stand outside knockig and saying, 'Lord, open the door for us.' He will say to them in reply, 'I do not know where you are from.' And you will say, 'We ate and drank in your company and you taught in our streets.' Then he will say to you, 'I do not know where you are from. Depart from me all you evildoers!' And there will be wailing and grinding of teeth when you see Abraham, Issac, and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God and you yourselves cast out.
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
05:37 PM on 02/28/2011
"The Christian God is a being of terrific character — cruel, vindictive, capricious, and unjust."







— Thomas Jefferson
08:46 PM on 02/28/2011
Jeremiah Chapter 17 verse 5- Cursed is the man who trusts in human beings. I love all
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kyosaku
Nothis non carborundum
11:01 AM on 03/01/2011
He diced with the devil on Job's steadfastness, and let a man's life be destroyed just to win a bet. I do not like this god either.
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Packattack
10:05 PM on 02/28/2011
As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?
-- John Adams
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Talossa
Liberal. Pro-Israel. Recovering atheist.
12:09 AM on 02/28/2011
A very nice film!

I'm not a huge fan of Paul, but Paul put it best: "He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant--not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life." (2 Cor. 3:6)
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aero56
05:46 PM on 02/27/2011
Here is one that christians don't like to read about. Christ died for the sins of ALL MANKIND. The Bible also states that every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord. That pretty much sums it up for me. EVERYONE will confess that Jesus is Lord. So, if every one confesses, then Christ has fulfilled his misson, and that is that God WILLS all mankind to be saved.
05:48 PM on 02/27/2011
Why would God have condemned Humanity in the first place?

What you wrote makes no sense.
New Yorker
Roman Catholic, Anti-DEATH, Combat Vet, Sinner
08:08 AM on 02/28/2011
JohnnyKay why are you here ? Do you not know the story of creation, the fall of Adam & Eve ? God gave Man a great gift, Free Will because God wishes us to choose Him. That is not a gift God can dismiss, our choices matter to God. When Adam & Eve rejected God and ate the forbidden fruit, they made a terrible choice that offended the Infinite, and mankind and all creation had to Die from that moment on. The ONLY way that "Infinite" sin (Choice) could be undone (Atoned For) was by the sinner, Man, and the 'man' had to be something no man ever is, Infinite, and Innocent. Jesus was God and Man, and He was pure, free from any blemish of sin, the only possible sacrifice that could mend the broken relationship with God. God so loved YOU and the rest of the world that He sent His Only Begotten Son to earth, from heaven and asked Him to Die horribly, just to save mankind from the consequences of that Infinite sin of Adam & Eve. Nothing less would suffice. How we use our Free Will matters. It is why you must choose Fire or Water, and will one day receive what you have chosen with your life. Which will it be ?
08:59 PM on 02/28/2011
God did not condemned humanity, humanity chose, for themselves good or bad, humanity did that all by themselves.
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gal416
is a Bible verse † † †
11:46 PM on 02/27/2011
Yes, Christ died for all mankind but not all of mankind will take advantage of the gift of salvation.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

"EVERYONE will confess that Jesus is Lord."
The Bible is talking about the day of judgement when everyone stands before God and gives an account of their lives. Those who have accepted Jesus as their Savior and Lord will receive their rewards. Those who have rejected Jesus in their life will not be so blessed.

Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

What does it mean to say that Jesus is Lord? It means that Jesus directs your life 24 hours a day. How many people are willing to say, in truth, that Jesus is the Lord of their life? Right now, in this life, only those who truly believe.
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aero56
05:28 AM on 02/28/2011
What God, WILLS, WISHES, or whatever He wants, WILL be done. Yes, we are all sinners, and we all die. Read the verse again. The wages of sin is death. God's gift is eternal life through Jesus. Where does it say that is only for those who are "saved"? Christ died for the sins of all men. "For the Son of man is come to seek and save that which was lost".....we are all lost. "The Lord is not willing that ANY should perish, but that all should come to repentance." "I came not to judge the world but to SAVE the world"....

Is it difficult for you to believe that all the inhabitants of the earth will eventually learn righteousness and all be saved?
New Yorker
Roman Catholic, Anti-DEATH, Combat Vet, Sinner
09:01 AM on 02/27/2011
Pray to God for the Grace to choose wisely. The just judge is Christ, regardless of whether or not you believe in Him. When you die, you will either have Trusted completely in Jesus, who's Divine
10:03 AM on 02/27/2011
Prayer is affirmation of the inevitable but the "Christ" is not a person but a Consciousness that must be awakened within each of us, just as Jesus 'christed' himself by laying down his life for Jesus Barabbas, his bother James' title meaning 'Son Of The Father' as the original Gospel of Matthew stated plainly, not the gospel we see in the New Testament.

"christ" is not the judge, we are as soon as we approach the Light and review our lives against the backdrop of overwhelming, unconditional love that determines the Dimension of Thought you inhabit until you're reincarnated in our Spiritual Journey toward Completion. Perfection is completed in the Mind of God alone, which you cannot know until we're all there.

Not one without the rest.

What is Divinity? To acknowledge God within us even when we acknowledge little else beyond our compulsion to sefllessness.
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Packattack
10:21 PM on 02/28/2011
The priests used to say that faith can move mountains, and nobody believed them. Today the scientists say that they can level mountains, and nobody doubts them.
-- Joseph Campbell
11:37 PM on 02/26/2011
If Jesus did not come to be the only way to God, then he needn't have come at all.
10:05 AM on 02/27/2011
He said he came to save the Jews.

Paul dreamed up a new relgion that supplanted Jesus's Teachings, Secret and otherwise, to create the monstrosity in existence for its own aggrandizement and that of its henchmen.
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methodman
06:56 PM on 02/26/2011
God I get to spend eternity with Casey Anthony, Keven and Elizabeth Schatz, Fred Phelps, Samuel Fu-Tzan Chi, Anthony Hopkins, Brian Randone and BTK Killer and Charlie Manson who recently became a Chriistian. What a group of wonderful people who deserve grace. Remember Melissa Huckabee she like Kind hearted Grace getting Dennis Raider quoted "I don't expect you to forgive me but I know God will. Priceless. I am doing everything in my power to stay out of Evangelical Republican Baptist Heaven.
06:34 PM on 02/26/2011
Who gets into heaven? We'll never know. If it's all of these christian nutjobs who think they're the elect, I want no part of it.