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You Didn't Build That: Obama's Public Sector Gap

Posted: 07/27/2012 5:56 pm

The contrived controversy over President Obama's "you didn't build that" line raises a more profound question about his leadership that has been overlooked. That is the case for the public sector -- and if you're wondering, what case for the public sector? -- that is precisely what I'm addressing.

The "you didn't build that" imbroglio is a classic out-of-context sound bite for the Romney campaign. Obama was making a simple point: no one succeeds in modern society on their own. They got help from others, including public services like schools, infrastructure, government loans and regulations, and so on. He said it somewhat clumsily, and should have known it would be distorted as an attack on small business and entrepreneurs.

But the Obama sound bite suffers in part because it is a sound bite, not a full-blown speech or philosophical agenda for how and why the public sector is so crucial to the United States, both the health of the economy and the functioning of society. At some point in the last four years, I would have liked to see the president articulate a rationale for why the public sector is important, how it makes the private sector more vibrant, and, yes, why it should grow.

During the tough battles in Wisconsin and Ohio last year, among other places, where GOP governors were slashing budgets for public employees -- teachers, firefighters, etc. -- Obama was rather subdued. He made statements of support for the protestors, but they were pretty anodyne. ""I think it's very important for us to understand that public employees, they're our neighbors, they're our friends," he told a Wisconsin reporter. He has occasionally proposed legislation to help the individual states' capacity to retain public employees, but, again, without forcefully voicing a broad set of ideas to convince Americans that this is right and necessary.

The issue is crucial for two reasons. First is the obvious political meaning. The right wing depicts Obama as interested only in creating "new bureaucrats" while he disses the private job creators. The second is actually more important, because there is a fascinating debate brewing about the worrisome future of the middle class.

That is that 1-2 million jobs or so lost in the 2007-09 recession are simply not coming back. The Bush crash of 2008 led employers to lay off millions, but these corporations have been reluctant to rehire them. The long-feared ravages of automation finally seem to be taking their toll. Businesses find that they can get along without as many red-blooded workers. ATMs replace bank tellers; self-checkout replaces cashiers in supermarkets; automated responders on telephone services replace operators; and of course Internet commerce is supplanting in-person consumerism. This has been a process long to unfold (computer assisted manufacturing has been growing for 30 years), but the advent of the Internet's viability as a principal venue for transactions is probably the topper. Most of the jobs lost in this process came with solid middle class salaries. The disappearance of these jobs is causing severe economic hardship in the middle and lower-income brackets, where real income has declined for a decade.

It's not at all clear that these jobs will ever return to where they were in the 1990s, the last good period of job and income growth. More tax cuts and rhetoric about entrepreneurs won't do the trick. So what will fill this gap? The public sector.

Since the 1980s, federal employment has declined, and in recent years the states have shed hundreds of thousands of jobs. In an earlier gaffe, President Obama alluded to this, saying the private sector is doing "just fine" while the public sector is not. He probably should have stayed with the statistics: since it hit bottom right after his inauguration, the private economy has added four million jobs, and the public sector at all levels has lost 500,000 jobs. Federal employment under Obama has risen slightly, but 90 percent of those jobs are in defense, border security, and the like.

The state and municipal layoffs, which continue at a steady and troubling pace, have a multiplier effect throughout the country. If these laid-off workers are not spending on the ordinary things of life, local merchants feel the pinch. And anxiety about job losses leads the still-employed to tighten their belts.

Reversing this trend is no easy matter, of course. Thirty years of Reaganism have convinced most Americans that enlarging government is always a bad thing. But when asked if they want to improve schools, fix infrastructure, protect the environment, build mass transit, subsidize student loans, and other specific, sensible things, Americans tend to approve if they think it's affordable.

We see student performance in middle and high school declining, and one answer is lower teacher-to-student ratios. We recognize the need for more health care workers in an aging population. We hear incessantly of the need for infrastructure repairs. We know we need to do much more to prevent climate change. The needs are clearly, inarguably evident, and many of the solutions would optimally employ several millions in government service.

The task, of course, is to convince the American people of this dovetailing of need and opportunity. But, so far, the Democratic Party and the Democratic president in particular have not stepped up. Theodore Roosevelt used to say the presidency was above all the "bully pulpit" -- by which he meant the president was uniquely provided with a platform to convey ideas and shape public opinion. And this qualifies as a Big Idea: a permanent expansion of the public sector at all levels to creatively and efficiently tackle the daunting problems we've allowed to fester, while, at the same time, filling the middle class job gap. Obama has given some great speeches on race, on America and the Arab world, at the Nobel awards, and elsewhere. It's time to apply his speechifying and his political skills to a manifesto for the public sector.

 
 
 
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08:33 PM on 08/06/2012
the mainstream media is accusing obama's critics of "twisting and taking out of context" his words. this is hardly true when you watch the entire speech. the thing he misses, and it is hard to believe he doesn't understand or his supporters don't understand, that when he said someone else built it, not the small business owners, whose taxes does he think built the roads and the infrastructure. he and others say "someone else". i say bolshevik!
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Tracy Amos
06:14 PM on 07/30/2012
Read the article. Obama does not value the Public Sector he is all about Big Government. So it really doesn't matter what he said (that/those) he believes it. He is appealing to the "takers" who don't believe that you need to EARN a living. Those who think "rich" is an evil word. Stop depending on the government to take care of you and improve your life. Romney 2012.
01:12 PM on 07/30/2012
I love how you totally re-worded what you assume B.O. was trying to say. If he meant to say what you are saying for him, he would have just said it. Well John you are wrong. You see we Americans are not stupid we actually do have brains. What B.O. was really trying to do was say what he thought would appeal to his audience at the moment, for votes. That's what he does and who he is. He makes things up as he goes along and tries to cover his tracks of where he has been. He has even made up fictional characters in some of his speeches and claimed his father served in WWII when he was less than 10 years of age. He is a fraud, a fake, and certainly has not a clue how to run the country. Obviously you are a liberal blind sheep that follows. John, get out of your text book world and join the rest of us in the REAL WORLD. By the way John.....I BUILT MY COMPANY!!
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MikeW CA
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08:34 PM on 07/29/2012
Clearly, the President should have said "those" instead of "that". But if we're going to make a simple grammatical slip an important electoral issue, there is truly little hope for this country.
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RButler
I've always wanted to have everything I wanted
05:40 AM on 07/30/2012
It's being done deliberately. They know better but sure don't act better.
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creek73
11:22 PM on 07/30/2012
An election year is a dangerous time for simple slips.
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MikeW CA
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09:19 AM on 07/31/2012
Boy, I'll bet Mitt would agree with that right about now.
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MikeW CA
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08:26 PM on 07/29/2012
Quick question to all the angry small business owners standing on the risers behind Mitt:

How many of your customers earn over $250k per year? That's right, your _customers_.

We all love low taxes, but we may be losing sight of the forest for the trees. Your tax rate only matters to the extent that you have taxable income. I'm not talking about "fairness" or "economic justice" here. I'm talking about your bottom line and mine. If you don't have customers who can afford to buy what you're selling, you'll make less money, even if your tax rate is lower.
I don't own my own business, but I am fortunate enough to have a job. The products my company makes mostly cost less than 20 bucks, and even a wealthy household only needs so many of them.
The 1% simply can't buy enough of what we're selling to keep me and my co-workers on the job.

However useless, lazy, or unproductive you may think middle class workers are, and public sector ones in particular, for most businesses, those workers are the customers, and if they are busted down into poverty, they aren't buying, and our businesses aren't making a profit even to get taxed.
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RButler
I've always wanted to have everything I wanted
05:46 AM on 07/30/2012
I fanned you after reading the first question. Beautiful. That's the whole thing in a nutshell. This business of 'job creators' is nonsense. If you cut their taxes to zero, they still wouldn't hire new employees if there weren't more customers, like the ones at your workplace. Can the GOP be that stupid and if they are being dishonest in repeating that phrase, I don't know which is worse or more dangerous? I guess it doesn't matter cause they're doing it anyway.
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Allene Stucki
06:07 PM on 07/29/2012
The whole "out of context" thing is complete nonsense. The context is worse than the extract. The whole thing was only 3 or 4 sentences, go read it IN context! There is no question but that he meant that government, or society built the business, not the small businessman.
01:31 AM on 07/30/2012
Business wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for the government. If business wants to prove they did it all by themselves they can give up
Limited Liability and the Corporate tax rate. That would really be getting government out of the way.
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creek73
11:24 PM on 07/30/2012
And exactly >who< do you think comprises the government?
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Earl Gray
Lighting up straw men everywhere
01:40 AM on 07/30/2012
You’re 100% right. These things MUST be taken in context.

Does the farmer "create" the crop, or does the farmer, working in concert with "society" (through its collective effort we call "government") and nature (to provide the earth, seed, sun and water) "create" the crop?

The farmer does SELECT good seed and a piece of earth conducive to growing, but he does not CREATE them.

He may irrigate otherwise parched soil or fertilize weak soil. He may even select a seed that has been commercially developed and not even found in "nature". He may grow his crop in glass buildings that concentrate the sun and retain its warmth. But that doesn't make him the "sole creator" of the crop.

Who built the dam that makes that irrigation possible?

Who did the basic science that the seed company used to develop their pest or drought resistant seed?

Who built and maintains the roads that bring in the seed, the fertilizer and even the glass for the greenhouse - and provides the ability to distribute that finished product to a wide enough market that the farmer can grow enough crops to earn a living?

And who guaranteed the loans and supported the market prices so he could shed enough of the risk inherent in farming to justify even trying?

Finally, if this farmer IS growing a crop to feed more than his own family, where is his market, if not the rest of "society"?

So, you're right. Context is very important.
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had410
Sorry GOP/ Gary Johnson 2012
11:17 AM on 07/30/2012
I didn't read all of your nonsense, but if the farmer did not select the seed and plant it, there would be no food. Knowing that fact, I would have to say that HE did create the food.
06:21 PM on 07/30/2012
Who built the road-building machinery, the shovels and tools the workers use, the fuel and systems to provide the fuel to run the road-building equipment, the materials used to actually lay the road-bed and surface, the food the workers eat, the clothes the workers wear, the workers themselves (often construction companies on government contract)? Private businesses. What does government provide, money? Oh, from taxes. And what is the source of most taxes? The private sector. So YOU'RE right. Context is VERY important.
12:43 PM on 07/29/2012
The comment was a slam on the efforts and intelligence of those that dare to create and prosper without grants or set asides. If you read the rambling statement it is simply an off prompter over excited read of the crowd that lured this communist mentored President to speak from his heart. When he realized he had went too far he tried to reel it back but his statement just muddled even more.

He is politically toast and that is the read from Carville. If you get Media Matters out of the mix you might only lose by 2%. With those woozie headed clowns calling the tune it is a 5% thumping with coat-tails in the Senate!!!!
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MikeW CA
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08:29 PM on 07/29/2012
The attempts to spin the President's comment about roads and bridges into an attack on those
"that dare to create and prosper" is an insult to the intelligence of everyone who cares about the future of the country and spends the slightest effort thinking about it.
07:02 AM on 07/30/2012
Read it or better yet view the tape and the crowd. His rhetorical ability off prompter is really very poor. Why insult anyones intelligence or hard work ethic ot make a point? Because you are pumping up class envy creating strife and hate to suit your political aims. Theses people need encouragement not a bunch of "I will help you by sending checks". Wake up!!!
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RButler
I've always wanted to have everything I wanted
05:52 AM on 07/30/2012
You are so dense. He wasn't talking about grants or set asides. He was talking about infrastructure, schools, laws and such that allow business to have an environment to start and grow.
07:02 AM on 07/30/2012
Naw, he was talking about making the under achievers all around him feel better about not working hard or being very smart!!!
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Erin Go Bragh.
09:11 AM on 07/29/2012
If Obama's "you didn't build that," gaffe was taken out of context, why was it delivered in such a pugnacious, mocking way? There was a glimmer of Chi street jive in there, too. No, the context taken was correct, especially as Obama was trying to cover his screw up by changing to the roads & bridges stuff. Obama's surliness provoked the right response in business men and women.
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10:02 AM on 07/29/2012
It's easy to see why the United States Air Force is nothing more than a shell of what it use to be ... it lacks character and discipline and a focus towards the future.
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Erin Go Bragh.
08:27 AM on 07/30/2012
Must be a bunch of democrats enlisted causing the downward spiral, just like Obama's massive cuts in defense causing the nation's downward spiral regarding safety of its citizens.
02:29 PM on 07/29/2012
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Erin Go Bragh.
08:28 AM on 07/30/2012
Chucklin'.......... typical demmie, stuck for an answer.
07:45 AM on 07/29/2012
Your not smarter, you did not work harder and you did not build that are part of a speech that was not taking out of context. The speech was to tell the people that private companies are not the builders but the federal government is the builders. It is what Obama believes. He believe the federal government should control all business. He thinks government hand out and spending is the answer to everything and private business is the problem. He does not seem to understand that the government can only get money in to ways. One is to print it the other is to steal it by raising taxes. When America can no longer borrow how high will taxes have to go? Growing government on the backs of the small business community will bankrupty small business and America. Printing more money will raise the price until the old cannot buy what they need to live. Government is the problem not the solution.
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mjswoosh
08:45 AM on 07/29/2012
You have it half right: "The government/corporate cabal that controls the monetary system is the problem, not the solution." Fixed.

Hint: The Federal Reserve is a private corporation, not a government entity.
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10:06 AM on 07/29/2012
Pardon me, but if "private" industry did everything the government did, they'd be nickel and dimeing you to death ... they don't create anything without a price tag attached and public utilities like water, gas, electricity, roads, sewers, flood control and so forth are cash registers that never stop milking the public dry.
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Alux
Pull the Wool Over Your Own Eyes!
12:26 AM on 07/29/2012
Tirman should stick to what he knows - international stuff.

The RNC is having lots of fun crushing the "out of context" meme with this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwWW2DQS_DU
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mjswoosh
08:06 AM on 07/29/2012
lol Way to prove Tirman right. FAIL.
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Alux
Pull the Wool Over Your Own Eyes!
02:45 PM on 07/29/2012
None is so blind as he who will not see.
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MikeW CA
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08:37 PM on 07/29/2012
Sorry, but printing the words to the left of the picture actually doesn't make it sound worse to me.
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Alux
Pull the Wool Over Your Own Eyes!
01:18 AM on 07/30/2012
Lots of Germans likes what Hitler was saying the the 20s and 30s too.  That didn't mean what he was saying was good.
Rollin McKim
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11:44 PM on 07/28/2012
The mess Obama is in with this speech.........He Didn't Build That.

The opposition has taken it and skewered it, out of context.

But........Had Obama never said it, we wouldn't be having this discussion, would we?

Point made? I doubt it.
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MikeW CA
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08:39 PM on 07/29/2012
No, point not made very well. The President should have said "those" rather than "that". But there are more important issues in the election than nitpicking his grammar. The main points of the speech are perfectly valid.
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StillAmused
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11:20 PM on 07/28/2012
I'm really offended by this particular barb of the media's barbed-wire fence around reality.

I recently watched the cute-as-a-button S.E. Cupp, resident "conservative" on MSNBC's "The Cycle", flash her Orphan Annies and swear that she had meticulously reviewed Obama's statement — honest, she did... several times — and concluded that Obama had, indeed, denied entrepreneurs credit for their successes.

It wasn't one of those obligatory throw-away lines we've come to expect from right wing voices... oh, no. The little lady was virtually afire with indignation, all but pounding the desk, and her dizzying performance was enabled by a "news" establishment which has itself thrown up its hands in surrender to the Frank Luntz school of thought-and-word-bending.

... which has led me to question when predictable partisan bias gives way to a form of permanent mental illness. The entire "You didn't build that" contortion isn't open to debate among sentient beings who enjoy at least a high-school-level familiarity with the English language. It's the insulting work product of the kind of tedious media dweebs who attach themselves to right-wing campaign organizations and exchange high-fives, every time they find a video clip they can down-edit and misrepresent.

We've come to expect blatant, forehead-slapping dishonesty from the Romney campaign and its associated billion-dollar "social welfare organizations".

Seeing it passively and uncritically "re-tweeted" by what passes for the news media is simply inexcusable.
Rollin McKim
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11:47 PM on 07/28/2012
"If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."

Pretty flipping clear to me. I get that about all the other stuff, context, infrastructure, etc.

But I also get that sentence.
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mjswoosh
08:10 AM on 07/29/2012
*SIGH* He was thinking/emoting out of order. The "...you didn't build that..." portion of the sentence was referencing his EARLIER statements about infrastructure, NOT the portion about the business itself. He was clearly talking off the cuff with a prepared thought pattern not off teleprompter. Even the smartest people sometimes double-back over their words and thoughts in similar fashion when they speak. This is much ado about nothing. But, what's worse is when people like you come on forums like this with an obvious agenda and somehow defend the criticism which is very obviously political and quite simply based on a bald faced lie about the President's statements.
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10:19 AM on 07/29/2012
No business is built without getting a free handout from the public. Roads for example. Many cities will put in traffic lights to control traffic flow in and out of a shopping complex. In fact they design the traffic signals system around the complex ... the owners don't pay for that - the public does. Same with water [increased water pressure for the facility], sewer [connected to existing sewage lines], electricity [upgraded power stations already servicing the area] and so forth. The owners pay for the connection to already established services paid for by the public.

If anyone believes a business is self sustaining, the think how much more it would cost if an owner had to run his water, sewage, electrical needs to the main facilities and design their own traffic signaling system around their complex?
09:54 PM on 07/28/2012
Fact is no one person is successful on their own. Hell even Jesus had 12 disciples to him out.
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10:21 AM on 07/29/2012
Amen, Brother!
02:41 PM on 08/08/2012
But yet it was still he, the individual, that made the sacrifice.
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Sam Damon
Do or do not, there is no try.
08:42 PM on 07/28/2012
How anyone can say that comment has been taken out of context is beyond belief. Talk to any small business person and see if they think he was taken out of context.
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mjswoosh
08:12 AM on 07/29/2012
I currently own 2 businesses in the IT sector, was a millionaire by age 30 and am going to graduate school soon in a completely different field. I can see quite clearly that his statements are being taken out of context. This is purely political and silly nonsense.
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10:24 AM on 07/29/2012
Too bad there aren't enough business people speaking up with you to add more clarity a business depends on the public in more ways than just purchasing wares.
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susiewatusi
Dancing around words daily...
06:29 PM on 07/28/2012
Here. Here is how simple it is. You know that cave man who actually got a fire to ignite by himself. OK. Now what about that guy who invented the wheel. OK. Now, everyone else had help because without those things, the rest of it all probably was impossible (until someone else would have come along and accomplished those very initial, very instrumental developments). But if you can't lay claim to having been responsible for on of those very initial, very instrumental developments, like fire and the wheel, for example, then you simple cannot say you did it on your own. That is what progresses us forward is when we develop stuff that builds into different and better stuff. See, how simple the president's idea was? See how stupid it looks when you try to make it something it is not? It is absurd that anyone can take a sentence out of an entire text of words, send that redacted message out and ANYONE would believe it? What fools do these people pander to?
04:25 AM on 07/29/2012
LOL your examples are horrible examples, because I am pretty sure that the cave man who "created" fire and the guy who invented the wheel were not part of the public sector. Regardless, if we all have the benefits of the national interstates, public schools, etc., then those who succeed while others fail deserve some credit for their success. There are reasons that there are tens of thousands of kids who play Pop Warner football, but very few of them manage to get to the NFL.
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susiewatusi
Dancing around words daily...
11:02 AM on 07/29/2012
There is a purpose for the phrase "let's not reinvent the wheel" and a reason why it is still a common business adage. Yes, indeed the public sector IS suppose to do those things you itemize! That's the point... perhaps you missed that in the president's comments with all the hooplah made over the 4 words that were taken out of the rest of the speech. Yes, the wheel analogy is about as base as you can get, but really, Pop Warner football? Not really a very good example since Pop Warner is a private entity and not all kids get to play for various reasons like skill and finances. But I GET YOUR point and yes, success if to be given credit and I do believe that if you had read the rest of the speech you would find that the president intended that point also.