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John Woods

Posted: September 30, 2010 12:29 PM

On Tuesday, Colton Tooley -- a sophomore at the University of Texas at Austin -- came on to our campus with an AK-47 and took his own life on the top floor of the library.

This horrific incident has been misclassified by the media as a school shooting. The perpetrator and victim, a single individual, apparently worked to avoid inflicting physical harm on fellow students. At one point, he even apologized to a student he inadvertently jostled as he made his way up the stairs in Perry-Castaneda Library. Colton reserved the violence for himself.

The University of Texas bore witness not to a shooting, but to an extremely public and immensely painful suicide.

Yet the most stunning aspect of the discourse over Tuesday's tragedy is the lack of any meaningful discussion of suicide. Yet National Suicide Prevention Awareness Week is only a few days past, and UT chose to observe Suicide Prevention Week last week.

We fixate on school shootings because they are rare -- but we fail to give similar attention to suicide because it is so incredibly common on college campuses.

Suicide is a much greater threat to persons of college age than homicide. UT, for example, has seen only two homicides perpetrated over the last thirty years. Contrast that statistic to the six suicides over the last twelve months. Tellingly, even the two murders -- which were perpetrated by a single individual -- ended in suicide. Typically, UT experiences only three or four per year.

Yet the bulk of the discussion centered on whether or not we should arm students to protect against school shootings. This is a complete non-sequitur given the nature of Tuesday's tragedy. "Quick! Shoot him! Before he kills himself!" Is this really our best plan?

In a strange coincidence -- strangely ironic, perhaps -- a talk was scheduled for UT campus the same day on this very topic. The speaker was John Lott, the author of "More Guns, Less Crime."

I suggest modifying Lott's title: "More Guns, More Suicides." Fully half of all firearms deaths in the U.S. are suicides, and 80 to 90 percent of suicide attempts with firearms are successful. Compare this to drug overdose, which is only successful 30 to 40 percent of the time.

Campus gun bans are believed to play some role. Firearms are responsible for far more suicides among college-age non-students than among college-age students -- a fact which is partially attributed to the lack of handguns on college campuses (some of which is admittedly cultural rather than legal). Indeed, social scientists use suicide rates as a proxy for household handgun ownership rates, because the correlation is so very strong.

Instead of pushing for barely trained students to carry guns, let's talk about how we can keep firearms out of the hands of those who are struggling. Let's talk about getting them access to counseling.

I submit that arming oneself is about restoring a feeling of control in an uncontrollable world. We felt out of control on Tuesday, and it was painful. We want that control back. But is arming oneself truly going to give us control, or just the illusion of control?

We can at least admit that more guns could not have saved Colton Tooley's life that day. So let's have an honest conversation about suicide.

 

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11:46 AM on 10/06/2010
He brought a AK_47 to school and the weapon was discharged with a death as the result? then this is usually classified as a school shooting, is it not? Your political correctness is being used to crontrol a message you are trying to change. Disturb Yes, other students in danger, absolutely! fore knowledge of his intent? Doubtful!

No matter how you spin it, if you were anywhere on the campus of UT on the day of the shooting You were exposed to a potential shooting and possibly a witness to your own MURDER.
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RevJimIII
Open Carry Oklahoma!!
07:30 PM on 10/06/2010
Sounds like a good reason for law abiding citizens to carry firearms in self defense, so you can give a report to law enforcement when they come to remove the body of the assailant instead of them investigating a murder.
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healthanalyst
Banned from commenting, so?
01:34 PM on 10/04/2010
UT will never allow guns. Not after Whitman. Neither will most campuses, as much as a bunch of idiots want it.

Arming campus cops is a better solution.

As far as mental health help, its expensive, it is time consuming, and bluntly, if you're a head case, you should be sent home for health reasons. Happens all the time. UT has a mental health center, mainly grad students. Pretty useless.

Can't stand the heat, go to a lesser school. After your first job or so, nobody cares where you went to school. Neither is your GPA an issue.
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RevJimIII
Open Carry Oklahoma!!
11:24 PM on 10/05/2010
"Arming campus cops is a better solution."

--So they can show up after the fact as well?
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healthanalyst
Banned from commenting, so?
02:31 AM on 10/06/2010
Want a bunch of civilians busting caps all over the place and missing? Never have anybody a concealed weapon been a help anywhere. Its cops. You pull a gun you're a target. He has his gun out. You have to get yours. Toast time.
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12:32 AM on 10/04/2010
Maybe he was planning on "suicide by cop". It's gotta be hard to kill yourself.
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Bob Kellerman
Let's have more sanity toward each other
07:07 PM on 10/03/2010
ONLY IN TEXAS
Would there be suggestions to arm students in case of a sniper on campus.

I am afraid that too many people of color and Gays would get mowed down, if those armed students "carried" while out for a few beers.
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RevJimIII
Open Carry Oklahoma!!
11:24 PM on 10/05/2010
Gee, no assumptions here....
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gregrocker
What has the Right ever been right about?
04:31 PM on 10/03/2010
Not surprising Texans would miss the point. They are considered worldwide the stupidest people on earth.
08:48 PM on 10/03/2010
Not possible. All these comments can't come form Texas.
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notdarkyet
End the Drug War.
03:40 PM on 10/03/2010
I read an interesting article the other day that baby boomers are raising the suicide rate in their age group. Apparently as they age and deal with more debilitating illness they decide for this option. I think many things contribute to suicide: disease, despair, depression, hopelessness and lack of any kind of support systems. In Arizona the mental health system was slashed dramatically as the budget deficit increased. At a time when more and more Americans are finding themselves vulnerable the systems to help them are taken away.
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12:09 AM on 10/04/2010
If somebody decides to commit suicide they should do it in the least messiest way possible.
Somebody is going to have to clean up what you've left behind. Give it some thought, it will be
your final act.
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notdarkyet
End the Drug War.
12:35 AM on 10/04/2010
I agree. My mothers father shot his brains out with a rifle and she is the one that had to clean it off the walls.
03:57 AM on 10/03/2010
If someone has decided to end his own life, I have to assume he knows more about whether or not that is the right choice than I do.
08:54 AM on 10/03/2010
This post and that of DCmykl are fundamentally flawed. Yes, there are situations where suicide may be no one else's business, such as when the person is in interminable physical pain or certain, immediate death. But that isn't how most suicides occur. They are the result of a mental illness in which the person comes to see no other way to stop mental anguish other than to end their life. Counseling and drugs can change the outcome. As the victim of a suicide (my mother) and someone who has suffered from clinical depression, I have experienced the irrationality of the most common types of suicidal thought and can see how it can be treated.
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ConfuciusSay-
Aglets: their purpose is sinister.
09:40 AM on 10/03/2010
That is only correct if both people are rational.
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DCmykl
A long seemingly endless edge
01:50 AM on 10/03/2010
I'm sure this is going to cause a lot of people to go balistic, but I really do think deciding to "check out" is an individual choice every person has a right to make. Obviously there are lots of qualifiers such as no one should ever be driven to commit suicide because of bullying, poverty, inability to receive medical care, etc., and the means one selects can't place others at risk, but the decision is ultimately no one's business but the individual involved.
08:54 AM on 10/03/2010
This post and that of LiberalEastTexan (I'm a liberal central Texan) are fundamentally flawed. Yes, there are situations where suicide may be no one else's business, such as when the person is in interminable physical pain or certain, immediate death. But that isn't how most suicides occur. They are the result of a mental illness in which the person comes to see no other way to stop mental anguish other than to end their life. Counseling and drugs can change the outcome. As the victim of a suicide (my mother) and someone who has suffered from clinical depression, I have experienced the irrationality of the most common types of suicidal thought and can see how it can be treated.
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ConfuciusSay-
Aglets: their purpose is sinister.
09:45 AM on 10/03/2010
If a person is not suffering from mental illness, and is not subject to a lethal impulse, but is reaching a conclusion based on a rational approach, I would cautiously support suicide as a right. Since it's fatal, it shouldn't be undertaken lightly.
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realitytrumpsbull
two 'alves of coconut!
12:55 AM on 10/03/2010
I think a good answer here would be simply to have a banner, and an '800' number, prominently posted at the main office of most/all colleges and universities. " Feel like you've about had it? Class pressures getting to you? Don't do anything stupid! Call us instead!" Something along those lines. There's nothing about the educational process that's worth killing yourself(or anyone else) over. They're just books. They're not evil. Maybe some of your classmates or instructors might be evil, or at least seem that way, but really, we're talking about the process of trying to assimilate information and succeed in the education process at the post-12th-grade level. 

People sometimes feel various pressures, because of different 'stuff'. One thing that's become apparent over the years, is that politics is apparently prevalent on campus, anymore. And, with students from all over the world, you can probably get a pretty interesting mix of people and  views. 

 Another article tells about how Tooley is involved/interested in the gun control debate. But, that doesn't explain how he came to be wearing a ski mask, and firing a Kalashnikov on a college campus.

What was his aim, in committing this act? Why did he do it? Why did he throw his life away? Was he doing OK in his schoolwork, was he getting along with other people? Did he 'get religion'? Did he have any kind of history, of mental illness, prescription drugs, street drugs? Did he listen to lots of rap music? We'll never know.
11:04 PM on 10/02/2010
Two homicides in the past 30 years that led to a suicide? I can think of at least three UT students who were murdered between 2003 and 2006. None of those ended with the killer committing suicide.
12:26 PM on 10/01/2010
Considering the suicide rates in Japan, Russia and other countries with strict gun control--the title of Lott's book is fine. Remember the suicide rate in Japan is HIGHER than the COMBINED rates of murder and suicide in the U S
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GritsJr
12:40 PM on 10/01/2010
Just curious what your primary source for those statistics is.
12:49 PM on 10/01/2010
Joshua Horwitz--I believe you have already been provided those stats on your own blog, if not--google is your friende
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Dimensio
I just don't know what went wrong!
02:38 PM on 10/01/2010
Data corroborating grossmont328's statement may be found here, Mr. Horwitz.  The suicide rate of Japan, at 24.4 occurrences per 100,000 citizens, is higher than rate of suicide in the United States at incidents per 100,000 citizens combined with the rate of homicide in the United States at less than 6 occurrences per 100,000 citizens.



As you can see, Mr. Josh Horwitz, grossmont328's statement is supported by data and he did not, as you accuse, Mr. Horwitz, "make it up".
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ConfuciusSay-
Aglets: their purpose is sinister.
02:24 PM on 10/02/2010
It's not a fair comparison to look at suicide rates between different societies to draw conclusions about a single method.

Let me try to explain:
In Jamaica, the suicide rate is substantially less than in Trinidad. Both are Caribbean nations, facing similar problems. However the Trinidadian population is a little more than half South Asian, while the Jamaican population is much more homogenously black. The suicide rate differential between the two countries is explained by a substantially higher rate in the South Asian population. Suicide is part of the South Asian culture, and is not viewed with the same negativity as in Western society. Comparing hanging, shooting, poisoning etc will demonstrate higher numbers for every method in Trinidad.

Where a clear divergence occurs is in the ingestion of specific agricultural poisons. The rural S. A. population in Trinidad uses that method preferentially because it is easily available, and as it is highly effective, impulse suiciders don't get a second chance.

It is much more fair to compare different states within the US to each other. This has already been done, and the evidence of lower suicide rates in gun restricted territories is quite clear.
05:06 PM on 10/02/2010
But you said it yourself, it's other factors, such as cultural differences, that account for differences in suicide rates, not guns.
01:42 AM on 10/03/2010
Confuciussay--as you say correlation and causation are different things and I have a problem with restricting Constitutionally protected rights in order to be politically "correct
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molonlabe
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09:28 AM on 10/01/2010
"We can at least admit that more guns could not have saved Colton Tooley's life that day. So let's have an honest conversation about suicide."

Part of having an honest discussion about suicide is also acknowledging the fact that on the flip side, less guns does not equal less suicides/crime. Japan has over double the per capita suicide rate of the US, yet civilian ownership of firearms is virtually banned there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

While the author doesn't come out and blatantly demonize guns and gun owners, I get the feeling that there is some anti-gun sentiment in his post.

I submit that suicide is more a cultural, social, and socio-economic problem than it has anything to do with guns.
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GritsJr
12:19 PM on 10/01/2010
John acknowledges the cultural factors related to suicide in this blog. In regards to Japan, however, the question is what would their suicide rate look like if firearm proliferation was widespread in that country and suicide attempts were lethal 90% of the time?

And what would our suicide rate look like if guns were not so easily accessible, even by people who are clearly suicidal?
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molonlabe
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12:34 PM on 10/01/2010
I see lots of "what if's?", but no discerable refutation of the fact that despite a ban on civilian ownership of guns, Japan as a suicide rate of over 2x that of the US.

You can't hide the social, socio-economic, and cultural factors exacerbating suicide rates by pushing a rather transparent anti-gun agenda, Josh. That's blatantly disingenuous.
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ConfuciusSay-
Aglets: their purpose is sinister.
02:45 PM on 10/02/2010
Your questions are the right ones.

Only people with a specific agenda could object to rational questioning.
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Esmeralda Williamson-Noble
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08:51 AM on 10/01/2010
My son jumped to his death from the floor of Bobst, NYU's main library on Nov. 3, 2009.,
I have since been active in the area of suicide awareness and prevention. On September 18, I held the first "Get Your Wellness On" - Suicide Awareness & Prevention Fair in Washington Square Park, Manhattan. Well over a 1000 people attended the free programs that included: yoga, QiGong, guided meditation, alternative healing, hula hooping as a fun way to clear the mind and de-stress, music and more. One woman on her way to kill herself by jumping in the river, happened upon us and stopped and... she is alive.
I am proposing Community Love, a scaled down but more frequent version of the fair, and have written to Mayor Bloomberg asking for a meeting to present my idea and hopefully get support.
You too can help.
Esmeralda
Founder
Get Your Wellness On
www.foreverinvictus.com
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GritsJr
12:03 PM on 10/01/2010
So sorry for your loss. Thanks for your work to prevent others from experiencing the same tragedy.
12:27 PM on 10/01/2010
that idea I like
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LouGots
05:58 AM on 10/01/2010
Suicide is a terrible act of aggression against one's survivors, and a spiritual sin of despair--giving up on God's grace and mercy.

From out of the heart of the gun-culture, I have to face the reality that we accept a certain facilitation of suicide as an unintended consequence of the RKBA. It is something we say, "yes," to Admitted.
ydrittmann
Vitter patronizes women.
09:21 PM on 10/03/2010
A suicidal person cannot think straight enough to have committed a spiritual sin. Their survivors may take it as aggression, but many times they believe they are doing the loved ones a favor by getting out of the way. There is no rational thinking going on. If you say these things to a depressed person who is contemplating suicide, they will politely excuse themselves and kill themselves in the next room.
12:56 AM on 10/01/2010
Mr. Woods --

Do you believe we all have the right to life? Do you understand that my right to defend my own life IS AN INTEGRAL PART of my right to life? Though it is painfully unfortunate when a person decides to opt out of his/her right to life, I feel you are very misguided to suggest the answer is that, in a crisis, those of us who CHOOSE LIFE should be (legislatively) debilitated of our own self-defense.