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John Zogby

John Zogby

Posted: August 5, 2008 04:00 PM

The Way We'll Be I: The New Retail Politics


I love the term "retail politics," both for the history it conjures up (the bad old days when "retail" literally meant buying votes) and for the great campaigners it brings to mind -- legendary flesh-pressers like Teddy Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Ronald Reagan, and even Bill Clinton.

But there's a new world of retail politics out there today, one where voters and consumers converge. Indeed, so powerful is this correlation between where Americans shop and how we vote that I have begun to wonder if old paradigms like Red States and Blue States have become obsolete and if the more revealing "precincts" in our lives are actually the stores we frequent - the places, that is, where we the people vote every day with our hard-earned dollars.

I first looked at this relationship between store and voter preferences in an extensive poll right after the 2004 presidential election.

Table I*:

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*Figures represent percentages of customers who said they would choose the store as their favorite if they could only choose one. Wal-Mart figures signify those who identified as shopping there at least once a week. Kaufmann's was taken over by Macy's in 2006.

2004 was the Armageddon election, the one in which we Americans seemed to be glaring at each other over an unbridgable cultural divide. And the figures in Table I jump right out and slap you in the face. John Kerry's preferred retail customers/voters dig in at Massachusetts' home-based Filene's. Understood. But from there, his base rode their shopping carts and carried their bags through the elitist, upscale, even snooty section of America represented by Bloomingdale's, Macy's, and Neiman-Marcus. This Democrat's base was not William Jennings Bryan's populist America, nor Franklin Roosevelt's coalition. The Democratic Party's world in 2004 was grounded in the haute couture and fashion sense of Rodeo Drive and South Beach's Collins Avenue.

George W. Bush, the guy that Americans wanted to share a beer with, was heavily represented by the downscale, bargain-shopping American voter who walks the aisles and stands in line at Sears, J.C. Penney, and Kohl's. And the middle section of the voting spectrum was dominated by two of the fastest growing retail stores in the U.S. - Target and Marshall's. Our post-election poll revealed that this retail/voting convergence was not simply a choice between two distinct personalities and leadership styles. It was clearly ideological, too. Kerry voters/shoppers were liberal in their ideology and generally extravagant in their consumption. Bush's voters were more conservative, both in the policies they favored and in the prices and styles they shopped for.

The next table is based on our June 2008 survey. (Note that this time we added fast-growing Costco to the mix.)

Table II
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By and large most of the stores maintained their 2004 political and ideological tilt. However, "centrist" Marshall's and Target customers as of now appear to strongly favor the Democratic candidate for President Barack Obama - by 31 points and 25 points respectively. Meanwhile, the "left" spectrum stores - Filene's, Bloomingdale's, Macy's, and Neiman-Marcus - now grant wider margins favoring the Democratic candidate, while the "right" spectrum stores - Boscov's, Sears, and Kohl's - give Republican candidate John McCain smaller margins than they gave Bush four years ago. Conservative values stalwarts, the "weekly Wal-Mart shoppers", are only 14 points more likely to support McCain than Obama, in sharp contrast with Bush's 25-point margin over Kerry in 2004.

What do we learn from all this?

* Watching consumers who prefer major retailers can also reveal ideological political preferences. For those of us who are interested in measuring the voting habits of large swathes of Americans, examining the correlation between retail preferences and voting preferences can be very enlightening.

* One good way to get a handle on shifts in the electorate is to track retail customers. When customers of several of the leading and most popular shopping chains shift so dramatically from Republican or centrist to Democrat, something big could be happening -- one more indication that the vital center has moved away from the Republicans and a further and highly unique measure of how much work John McCain and the Republican National Committee has before them.

* I have never been a subscriber to one dimensional maxims like "it's the economy, stupid" because values matter a lot in voter choices. But in an election like this year's when the economic health of the nation and tens of millions of individuals is paramount, the new politics of retail helps us find a link between real economic concerns on the ground and how people may vote.

* The implications for campaign strategies are huge. Micro-targeting - the technology and practice of collecting retail, attitudinal, and behavioral details on individual voters and campaigning directly to the person - has been alive and growing for years. But looking at retail stores can be revolutionary. To be sure, stores will frown on rallies in their parking lots or any other political spectacle, but John and Cindy and Barack and Michele need to shop. The Obamas know that well-timed trips to Marshall's and Target (especially in battleground areas like Scranton, Boulder, Fort Lauderdale, and Akron) can only be a plus. It couldn't possibly hurt to show up buying a new Stairmaster or lawnmower at Sears. Similarly, the McCains need to look at Marshall's and Target, but the Republican standard-bearer is under-performing at Sears, Kohl's and J.C. Penney. Where else to buy a hammer or some deck furniture? Costco shopping sends a very special message of concern to all value (and values) shoppers who are hard hit.

* It's not all about Wal-Mart all the time, where incidentally George W. Bush's 25-point advantage is now down to a 14-point lead for McCain.

* The new retail politics also presents opportunities for aligning political messaging with the messages chains are using to draw customers. Marshall's "real value at low prices" might line up well with McCain's supposed edge in experience and his clear deficit to date in fund-raising. On the other hand, Marshall's "thrill of the find shopping experience" and "inspiring spirit" seem to fit Obama to a tee. Target always features its community service and keen environmental sensibilities - perfect themes for Obama to align with his special appeal to young voters. But McCain's maverick streak and military heroism just seems so perfectly consistent with Target's "bulls-eye." Sears has attempted to sell nostalgia for a simpler America. Nostalgia is a powerful change message for either party.

Retail politics has been an essential ingredient of who we Americans are since Old Hickory and Old Tippecanoe. But the new politics of retail truly looks as if it can become a real characteristic of the way we'll be.

John Zogby is president and CEO of Zogby International, a polling company. He is author of The Way We'll Be: The Zogby Report on the Transformation of the American Dream, published by Random House, which goes on sale on August 12.

I love the term "retail politics," both for the history it conjures up (the bad old days when "retail" literally meant buying votes) and for the great campaigners it brings to mind -- legendary flesh-...
I love the term "retail politics," both for the history it conjures up (the bad old days when "retail" literally meant buying votes) and for the great campaigners it brings to mind -- legendary flesh-...
 
 
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06:59 PM on 08/06/2008
"What can we learn from this?"

Uh, that where I shop speaks less to how I vote than it does how many of these stores are actually in my area?

Seriously, all I can learn from this is that I probably would love Costco, given the opportunity. Or possibly that I'm surrounded by Republicans because my town lacks a Bloomie's?
01:42 PM on 08/06/2008
Very, very, very interesting data. I wonder if they've refined the data yet to include what people buy as well as where they buy it. Companies like Kroger have done that for years, and it helps them in targeted marketing of products to those most likely to buy them.

Politicians are indeed products, and their campaigns are more like marketing campaigns than like messengers trying to spread their messages. The data shown here are marketing data, and may end up being quite useful to politicians on all sides - especially if the politicians do more data mining to target their potential customers (us) even better.
darcy
I'm the one on the left
11:44 AM on 08/06/2008
In 2000 pollsters were saying that people who went to church once a week or more were overwhelmingly likely to vote Republican. That makes more sense to me than this article. If more Target shoppers now say they'll vote Democratic, that's probably because people who used to shop at Bloomie's are now shopping at Target, not that the normal Target demographic has become more liberal.

The problem for Democrats in this country is that white men tend to vote Republican so they won't feel like woosies, and white men are the largest voting bloc, I think. If more women took the trouble to vote, we wouldn't constantly be stuck with these damn conservatives.
10:28 AM on 08/06/2008
What I notice about this article is that when Zogby gives advice on how to win more votes, it's for Mc Cain. This election season has completely changed my opinion of this pollster. Last night he was on John Elliot talking about how close the race was and how O was losing ground.
10:25 AM on 08/06/2008
Three points:
(1) I don't know if Zogby has unintentionally offered proof that polls are nonsense,
(2) Obama has clearly succeeded in mixing up the shopping preference status quo of the Bush years
(3) someone else pointed out that this poll omits online shoppers (and warehouse store bargain hunters like Costco members).
07:33 AM on 08/06/2008
I never go to any shop. I use the internet to order, and they bring it to my door. How would I vote? Some day when U.S. has a true two-party system, each with clear platform, then I will vote until then, forget it. There is no two-party system or democracy in the country where the majority are ignorant of the issues facing the country and are easily persuaded by the biased mass media.
08:48 AM on 08/06/2008
Yet the problem begins at the very local level where the apathetic, such as yourself, take no part in the process. If you don't like the way things are, then become a citizen, rather than a tenant.
09:41 AM on 08/06/2008
Hmmm... It is amusing how YOU are calling other people ignorant.
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07:20 AM on 08/06/2008
Curious... I wonder if it has anything to do with targeted social commentary in the advertising? People seem to like fitting stereotypes these days, and they go where they think people like them will be in majority. Perhaps there is some way to see who and how the stores are attracting their customers within their ads, rather than just who happens through the door.
03:42 AM on 08/06/2008
I seriously have no clue as to what this article is saying.

I just shop for prices. Sometimes Wall-Mart, sometimes Stater Bros.

That has nothing to do with my vote.
Grunty1
Micro-bio this
11:00 AM on 08/06/2008
It is trying to say only rich people vote Democratic and that average people vote Republican.

Over all, a pile of crap.
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alieninvader
12:54 AM on 08/06/2008
What happened with Marshalls? Did their clothes get better?
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alieninvader
12:45 AM on 08/06/2008
Colorado is a battleground state, but Boulder is not a battleground area. It is pure democratic. Okay, maybe that's nitpicking, but it's not the only problem I have with the study. Aren't we missing one huge figure? How has overall market share changed for each of these stores? You can't draw any sort of conclusions without knowing how many people have shifted from Bloomingdale's to Target (for example).
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Skepticat
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10:57 PM on 08/05/2008
Interesting study
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Lemeritus
Been there, done that, lived to tell
08:51 PM on 08/05/2008
Fascinating study Mr. Zogby. But I can't help wondering why this isn't the B-side of your more startling recent poll as reported in McClatchy:

"Barack Obama has lost ground among some of his strongest bases of support, including young people, women, Democrats and independents, according to a new ATV/Zogby poll.

"Zogby called the results of his poll a 'notable turnaround' from a July survey he did that showed Obama leading by 46-36.

"His findings:

"-Among voters aged 18-29, Obama lost 16 percent and McCain gained 20. Obama still leads, 49-38;

"-Among women, McCain gained 10 percentage points. Obama now leads 43-38;

"-Among independents, Obama lost an 11 point lead. They're now tied;

"-Among Democrats, Obama's support dropped from 83 percent to 74 percent;

"-Among Catholics, Obama lost the 11 point lead he had in July and now trails McCain by 15.

"Zogby said Obama also lost ground among minorities.

"'The McCain camp seems to have turned lemons into lemonade. Huge crowds and mostly favorable press reviews of Obama's overseas trip have been trumped by McCain's attacks on Obama. Loss of support for Obama among young voters may also be due to his perceived reversals on issues they care about, such as the war and government eavesdropping.'"

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/46457.html
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JNail
07:30 PM on 08/05/2008
John, thanks for the great post. very interesting shifts in buying and voting patterns.
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2sleepy
07:16 PM on 08/05/2008
I think this is interesting, I get alot of positive remarks about my ever present Obama button in Target and Costco, but I get dirty looks in Kohl's...as far as Walmart, I just drive by as quickly as I can so I can't make any observations about the demographics but from the looks of the cars with expired registrations in the parking lot, I would venture a guess that alot of Walmart shoppers don't vote
07:11 PM on 08/05/2008
How funny. The ones getting screwed by the GOP vote for it the most... makes you want to ask how negative the IQ of Americans with low income really is? -125-ish?
11:32 PM on 08/05/2008
umm...low income does not necessarily mean low IQ. Of course you already knew that, I'm sure.

What about the people who are avoiding all of these stores because they just don't have the money to spend for anything over and above the necessities? (Maybe somebody should poll people coming out of the thrift stores, or food banks. )

Poor people vote too.

And Obama's "problem" among low-income white voters doesn't exist. They prefer him over McCain.
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HHarvey
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09:49 AM on 08/06/2008
And Obama's "problem" among low-income white voters doesn't exist. They prefer him over McCain.

Well, that would depend on where they live. Demographics is huge and I wonder if Mr. Zogby included that in this study.
11:33 AM on 08/06/2008
Those who benefit the most by welfare, food stamps, social welfare programs and a steady diet of government benefits are those who will always vote democrat. However, they have to swallow the humiliation that while they accept your generous programs for the poor, you consider them stupid and ignorant. Your comment being a fine example of that attitude.