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No, Natural Gas Is Not America's Future

Posted: 07/04/2012 1:36 pm

In Thomas Friedman's latest column, he praises Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts because he "took one for the country." Friedman sees that "America today is poised for a great renewal" if only it can get some "big, centrist, statesmanlike leadership."

Logically, there would be some renewable (energy) in America's renewal, right?

Wrong. Here's Friedman's vision for America:

Our newfound natural gas bounty can give us long-term access to cheap, cleaner energy and, combined with advances in robotics and software, is already bringing blue-collar manufacturing back to America. Web-enabled cellphones and tablets are creating vast new possibilities to bring high-quality, low-cost education to every community college and public school so people can afford to acquire the skills to learn 21st-century jobs. Cloud computing is giving anyone with a creative spark cheap, powerful tools to start a company with very little money. And dramatically low interest rates mean we can borrow to build new infrastructure -- and make money. [emphasis mine]

I'm generally a fan of Thomas Friedman. He's got an everyman way of writing about big issues, with a passion for practicality, especially when it comes to rebuilding America. But for a man who regularly talks of the opportunity of 21st technology, this is a very 20th century vision.

Here's an alternative:

The stodgy National Renewable Energy Laboratory says that renewable energy like wind and solar can meet at least 80% of our electricity needs by 2050. (Note: most forecasts of renewable energy generation by "reputable sources" lowball it, by a lot). This isn't just long-term energy, it's infinite. There are no refills on natural gas.

Two thirds of American states have the local resources to meet their entire electricity needs with renewable energy like wind, water, and solar. Within a decade, 100 million Americans in the largest metropolitan areas will be able to get cheaper electricity from solar on their rooftop than from their utility.

And what about the economy? Solar and wind create several times the jobs per megawatt of electricity capacity (Data below from Putting Renewables to Work published by UC Berkeley). Local ownership of distributed renewable energy resources can double and triple, respectively, the jobs and economic impact of our energy generation.

2012-07-04-REfossiljobsperMW.png

Big, centrist, statesmanlike leadership isn't found in last century's energy sources. We aren't going to frack our way to a cleaner, brighter future. We need a bold, 21st century vision for energy.

If President Obama wants to lead on energy, he should declare independence from a fossil fuel past and give Americans a vision for clean energy self-reliance.

 

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04:40 PM on 07/15/2012
Central energy generation is not the most efficient energy generation, as it requires extensive extraction, processing, and transportation infrastructure of the fuel (and corresponding environmental cost to ecosystem services), transmission infrastructure of the energy, energy lost in transmission and higher incremental cost of energy compared to renewable energy (which is essentially zero). Energy prices should be at least 30¢/kWh, as found in Denmark, to reduce the need to expand energy infrastructure, increase the number of local jobs (because renewable energy would be more competitive) and make it more profitable for builders to build upward rather than outward (through elimination of height and minimum setback restrictions, decrease impact fees to 0 for infill and increased for low-density land use) and base property taxes on the value of the land rather than the combination of land and building.
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BOBinPS
Really?
04:37 PM on 07/09/2012
I looked into solar panels about 5 years ago. With a 50% subsidy of initial costs, I would recover my investment in about 10 years. Not so bad. But the problem was that the lifespan of the panels was about 10 years. Replacement wouldn't qualify for a subsidy. I don't know what the current projected lifespan for panels is today, nor do I know if they are significantly more efficient, but it would have to be at least twice better than a few years ago to be cost effective. When I am convinced of cost saving, I will invest. Until then, natural gas seems the best alternative to coal and oil.
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Andy Hecker
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01:36 PM on 07/11/2012
A lot has changed in five years with regard to pricing. For example - earlier in the year I bought PV for $0.78 per watt. Yes, balance of system adds cost, but prices have been falling significantly. Most (all?) on the market have 20+ year warranties. But - they don't stop working after 25 years, they just drop to 80% of full production. We don't know how long the panels will continue to produce because the first panels made over 45 years ago are still producing.

Ignore panel efficiency - that's a red herring. If one has more roof space, they can use lower efficiency (and less expensive) thin film panels. If one has less roof space (or higher energy needs) they can opt for higher efficiency panels. Look around at all the trees and plants - they only use 1% of the energy falling on them - yet that 1% efficiency works just fine!

Cost effective? Check out this report - especially page 9: http://www.ipcc.ch/docs/srren/presentations/bonn/Edenhofer.pdf
and notice that in 2005 solar was already cost effective in areas with higher electricity prices. But here's the bottom line for your cost effectiveness calculations - that 'cheap' fossil fueled power is MUCH more expensive than even the most expensive renewables - but the damage to air, water, and human lives (whether from cancer or war) is kept 'off the books' to make it LOOK cheaper.
Good luck.
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BOBinPS
Really?
05:48 PM on 07/11/2012
Thank you for the information. I agree with your comments about the value of renewables. Guess it is time to reevaluate.....
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Tulka2
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08:46 PM on 07/08/2012
You "generally like" Thomas Friedman...?!  Well, there's your first mistake.  Are you too young to remember how he thought W.'s war in Iraq would be good for energy, good for Israel and good for the world?  Friedman was one of the war's biggest cheerleaders and i, for one, will never forget it. 

I completely agree with the rest of your analysis except for the part where you skip what the waste disposal arm of the mafia are dumping down the wells to make fracking possible.   The frackers refuse to say what they are dumping down the wells.  Can we assume it's anything pure and clean? 
09:24 PM on 07/05/2012
Total rot. Without including the MASSIVE subisdies paid to wind power generation by carbon based energy taxes, the cost of wind power is still 32 times more expensive than the most expensive carbon based energy. Which means: take your electric bill and your water bill and multiply by 32. The true cost of wind power.

Of course, that is only for starters. As I say, that price still includes the massive subsidies from carbon energy that the renewable live off of like parasites. Once carbon goes away the wind power cost will go way up. Then there is the fact of huge maintenance costs like we have never seen in carbon energy. That will have to added to the tab. Then there is the fact that the capital plant of renewable does not last as long as traditional energy plants. That cost will have to be added.

I believe it is essential to our race that we move away from petroleum as our energy source. When we look at the facts objectively that leaves natural gas. Current sources of natural gas will last us at least a thousand years. Then we can start making natural gas out of coal, which will last us tens of thousands of years. By then we will surely figure out how to capture the suns energy in a way that works.

If your really for the environment, and not just advancing a self-serving agenda, you will back natural gas all the way.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
12:38 AM on 07/06/2012
Where do you get your numbers?

Maybe you meant 3.2? That's not far off.

Or, perhaps you're comparing the cost of buying a grandfathered coal plant versus building the same capacity in new wind power. An easy mistake to make if you're a hedge fund.
12:50 PM on 07/06/2012
total bunk. The fossil-fuel industry is by far the most subsidized industry in the US. Agriculture may be a close second. The true cost of coal, oil, natural gas is not borne out to the market either - when you take into account the externalities such as environmental damage and adverse health consequences, the true cost is enormous.

The reality is that fossil fuel sources are limited and not renewable, and their use contributes to global climate change (don't tell me you're going to deny that one too!) and global political turmoil. Where you get those statistics like "last one thousand years" is likely a suspect source of info and probably industry-sponsored. Many of those "infinite" sources are inaccessible with our current technology.

Get real. Renewable is the way to go. Let's invest in it before it's too late.
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paxatman
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03:08 PM on 07/06/2012
Well said.
F & F'd
12:42 PM on 07/07/2012
By far? Not even in the energy sector.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/07/news/economy/energy-subsidies/index.htm
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02:45 PM on 07/05/2012
John, you NAILED IT, as usual. You and I have been on the same track for the past few years (although in your earlier Grist years, not so much! ha!), and you are a fantastic writer and advocate - thanks for keeping the TRUTH out there, with all the backup we need.

Everyone across the political spectrum should be fighting for energy independence at an individual, microgrid and community level. Freedom from the unholy alliance of Big Energy and Big Government is the most critical challenge of our time, yet most people ignore it and count on the dubious behaviors of either tea party politicians (enslaved to Koch, Duke, etc.) or Gang Green Big Enviros (enslaved to Gore, Kennedy, Bryson, etc.) - all of whom want to expand Big Energy's chokehold over our wilderness, our wallets, our grid and our democracy. NO!

Keep saying what you are saying, people are gathering steam behind you, and we are seeing the light, literally and figuratively. Energy democracy is the only future, we need to bring it about sooner rather than later. First steps, restoring PACE financing and establishing a generous feed in tariff for PV systems under 100kW. Everything else will fall into place...
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12:51 PM on 07/05/2012
If you want to know what future is ...Follow the Koch Bros. Money...
12:36 PM on 07/05/2012
Here one interesting statistics How frequently “Alternative energy”, “Renewable energy”, “Green energy”, “Bioenergy”, “Biofuel”, “Clean energy”, “Solar energy”, “Solar panel” appeared in books, articles, patents (1995 – 2011 years)
http://africabusiness.com/2012/03/25/statistics/
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Roosevelt Democrat
11:53 AM on 07/05/2012
It was never portrayed as the future. It's called a bridge fuel to the future so we can work out all the kinks in solar & wind and other green sources of energy.

Do you understand how quickly a natural gas generating facility can respond to supply the grid with electricity when unexpected energy demands occur?

Try that with solar cells or wind? Think of all the excess infrastructure you have to have to meet these peaks!

Thomas Friedman believes in it. President Obama believes in it. What more conformation do you need?
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Andy Hecker
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11:46 PM on 07/11/2012
"Think of all the excess infrastructure you have to have..."

I'm thinking of it...it's dark...tiny...YES! Thank you - it's ZERO! LOL

Wind is already being used as baseload power on this planet. All nations with modern electric grids have controllers that constantly adjust for load changes and generation changes - and they can even handle the nuclear power plants that drop off-line due to a flood and don't come back for 16 months. :)

We cannot call natural gas a bridge fuel unless we know where we're going. Without a plan it's yet another bridge to nowhere.

Here's a plan - a 2.6 times larger US economy powered by no oil, coal, or nuclear and much less gas, with a five trillion dollar savings. With no new technology and no action by people in DC. We can do this - we just need to lace our boots and get walking!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Kq89M0t18
10:23 AM on 07/05/2012
Once again, until the economics of "green technology" make sense, we will not widely implement them on a wide scale.
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02:51 PM on 07/05/2012
Rooftop solar is already cheaper than daytime gas in CA. It costs ~17 cents/kWh to produce clean, high-value power right where it is needed in California. SCE is paying $1.88/kWh on the spot market because their filthy nuke plant broke down, and that's not counting the transmission costs or profit margins.

What we need are policies that make dirty, centralized, wilderness-killing, transmission-intensive power cost what it really costs, so that we can make an accurate comparison. At the moment, 90% of the true costs of ALL Big Energy (including Big Solar and Big Wind) are being socialized onto the planet, taxpayers and ratepayers to artificially create "low prices" but it's a sickening market distortion that enforces the status quo.

So, instead of fighting against the people who get it right, why don't you start fighting for policies that favor economically and environmentally preferable models, that favor jobs, democracy, reliability and energy independence (from Big Energy and Big Government)?
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10:19 AM on 07/05/2012
Your jobs chart is misleading because renewable energy is mostly small scale projects that are cost inefficient; whereas, fossil fuel energy has an installed infrastructure that employs economies of scale. Creating jobs this way does so in a very narrow perspective. Instead, we need big renewable projects that can replace power plants cost effectively. Utility companies have tremendous investments in infrastructure that they are obligated by their shareholders to maximize returns. To offset this fiduciary requirement, the government needs to buy up coal plants and scrap them allowing energy companies to make new investments.

If you want environmental Justice, you need to vote for Rocky in November.
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02:55 PM on 07/05/2012
You are ignoring both the multiplier effect of monies poured into local economies via local, well-paid jobs and payments to families and small businesses who do the heavy lifting of revolutionizing our energy grid through efficiency upgrades and rooftop solar. That will more than offset any "inefficiencies," which, not surprisingly, are almost entirely found at the permitting and interconnection levels, not the straight installation levels. If the local building agencies and the utilities would stop killing rooftop solar with endless delays and fees, we would all have a shot at energy independence.

Your model presupposes that generation monopolies are good for the grid, good for the planet and/or good for the economy, but they aren't. Quite the opposite. We don't want utilities to make more investments in the status quo. We want them to join us in the 21st century, where the internet, PCs and cellphones are the model, not the IBM mainframe, the card catalog and Ma Bell phone leases! That means transforming their business models into load balancers, backup generation, storage and microgrid operators, not generation monopolies.
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Michael D Ballantine
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04:01 PM on 07/05/2012
I'm not ignoring the value of small business jobs to do installation.  That has been the industry's siren call to not penalize the Chinese.  I'm trying to look at the big picture and long-term.  The US cannot make its own solar panels as long as the Chinese are dumping.  The objective of a mercantilist is to keep your economy in thrall so it can never develop economies of scale.  No one is happy with the rare-earth metals situation where China now produces 96% of rare-earths and charges whatever it wants for them.  They will do the same with solar and renewable energy equipment.  We need an American manufacturer to make sure that in time of international strife, America can support its own economy.
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Laurent Wagner
10:13 AM on 07/05/2012
The U.S. could stop shale gas production.

The U.S. produces 5 trillion cubic feet of shale gas (115 million tons of oil equivalent) per year.

Using solar water heaters, using solar steam generators, using biomass boilers, using ice storage air-conditioning systems, using LED bulbs … the U.S could save more than 5 trillion cubic feet of natural gas per year.

P.S.
The U.S. could produce over one billion tons of biomass a year (300 milion tons of oil equivalent) by 2030, according to a report from the Department of Energy.
10:04 AM on 07/05/2012
Wind and solar power are dependent on money from the public exchequer, and natural gas royalties fatten that exchequer. So they are complementary, not opposed.
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Andy Hecker
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10:11 PM on 07/05/2012
Interesting comment. How do you think the $11 or so billion in tax breaks and incentives to oil, coal, and gas might tilt the playing field? It's pretty amazing that land based wind can compete in that lopsided environment in spite of the tiny incentives wind power gets....
http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/
11:54 AM on 07/07/2012
What is the relative subsidy per unit of energy delivered? That is a better measure of how the playing field is skewed. Since the amount on energy generated is tiny, you could argue that giving 11 billion to wind power generators and they could pay people to use their power. Statistics is the art of making numbers paint the picture you want. The analgous argument is that new yorkers pay more federal taxes (and get more federal "subsidies") then the people of Idaho and that is unfair. You could remove all oil and gas subsidies and solar and wind would still not be cost competitive at this time.
Domestic natural gas is a bridge fuel it needs to be used and taxed to fund our transition.
IWantTofu
Evolution. Now a political position.
09:41 AM on 07/05/2012
You are not going to replace cheap energy with more expensive energy. Renewable resources will always be there, sun,, wind, etc. Let's use up the cheap fuel, when they run low in supply, the price will go up, and we can then develop alternatives. We used to use firewood for heat. When petroleum based products became cheaper, we switched. We used to use natural gas for street lamps and we switched to electricity. Outside the energy space, we used to use horses to pull plows for agriculture.

When people are talking about running out of fuel, they really mean running out of cheap fuel.
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Andy Hecker
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10:14 PM on 07/05/2012
The 'cheap' fossil fuels we use only appear inexpensive because the emissions and pollution are off the books, as are many of the subsidies and tax breaks, as are the cost of military forces to maintain stable regions and open shipping.
"Cheap" is nothing more than smoke and mirrors.
http://priceofoil.org/thepriceofoil/
09:18 AM on 07/05/2012
So sorry, old boy, but until alternatives provide a better, cheaper solution than carbon based energy, they will not be embraced.
09:06 AM on 07/05/2012
"The stodgy National Renewable Energy Laboratory says that renewable energy like wind and solar can meet at least 80% of our electricity needs by 2050." That is the stupidest statement I've read in a long time. At absolute best, wind and solar will provide 20% of our energy needs, that's it. Wind and solar power have an achilles heel, they are not constant sources of energy. For that, you need fossil fuels, nuclear or hydro. Unless you are willing to do without power when the wind isn't blowing or the sun isn't shining OR willing to use batteries to store the power which is extremely dirty, solar and wind are great.