Jon Raymond

Jon Raymond

Posted: October 8, 2008 08:53 AM

Knowing What You Don't Know

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Tom Brokaw asked the candidates their last town hall debate question from Peggy in Amherst, New Hampshire "What don't you know and how will you learn it?" This reminded me of a famous Donald Rumsfeld quote that is now considered poetry according to Slate.com:

The Unknown
As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don't know
We don't know.

--Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing

I've always liked this quote, despite my opinion of Rumsfeld as something of an antichrist. Ironically, it makes a lot of sense. You can't know what you don't know. You can't know about things you have yet to discover. You can't know what the future holds, though you might conjecture on it, and if you're psychic you might venture a guess. The question is a loaded one. It should have been, "What do you feel unknowledgeable about?"

Let's see. The future?

Would you answer that question in, say, a job interview? It's one of those typical job interview gotcha questions (along with, "What have you read lately?"). But in job interviews it's usually more like, "Tell us about one of your failures." or "Tell us about your weaknesses." Answer those and you lost the job. Your answer has to be, "I haven't had any real failures. I always succeed. I don't have any weaknesses in my job."

McCain and Obama know how to handle the tough job interview questions. They basically said they don't know what they'll have to face in the future, but they'll deal with it.

Obama went on to talk about the things he does know.

I know that I wouldn't be standing here if it weren't for the fact that this country gave me opportunity. I came from very modest means.... And the question in this election is: are we going to pass on that same American dream to the next generation?

Kind of a positive twist on the question, don't you think? The known knowns?

McCain was more of a Rumsfeld type, getting down to the known unknowns,  The "dark times" ahead?:

I know what it's like in dark times. I know what it's like to have to fight to keep one's hope going through difficult times. I know what it's like to rely on others for support and courage and love in tough times.

I know what it's like to have your comrades reach out to you and your neighbors and your fellow citizens and pick you up and put you back in the fight....

As if we didn't know that.

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Tom Brokaw asked the candidates their last town hall debate question from Peggy in Amherst, New Hampshire "What don't you know and how will you learn it?" This reminded me of a famous Donal...
Tom Brokaw asked the candidates their last town hall debate question from Peggy in Amherst, New Hampshire "What don't you know and how will you learn it?" This reminded me of a famous Donal...
 
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- mjc I'm a Fan of mjc 9 fans permalink

HuffPo doesn't like to address questions about Obama's birth, his citizenship status, or any other detail about the man such as his association the New Party, a group associated with the Democratic Socialists of America when he did his community organizing. Those are, however, valid questions with unknown answers which the Obama campaign has turned down. The other unknown is why the Republicans haven't tried to exploit those unknowns, YET. Is the mainstream media so enthralled with Obama that they won't allow such serious questions be answered? Perhaps this country has long since become dominated by the movers and shakers supported by the media whores, no longer a democracy but a one-party government, no matter what the name.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 10/09/2008
- Jon Raymond - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Jon Raymond 6 fans permalink

Not to mention the kitchen sink and the tea in China. Who is Obama? Here is his answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCeNPAaGVVY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 10/10/2008
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"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future" --Yogi Berra.

I like Rumsfleld's quote too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 10/08/2008

What jumped out to be about McCain's response was "I" "I" "I" "I" "I" "I" "I" "I" "I" "I" "I" "I" "I" "I" "I" "I"

He doesn't care about anyone except himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 10/08/2008

The classic response to the job interview questions about name your weakness is to reply

"Well, I tend to be a perfectionist"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 10/08/2008
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