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Did Romney Actually Say He'd Take Advantage of Hostages or Dead Americans?

Posted: 09/18/2012 10:30 pm

Watch the now infamous Romney tapes, starting at the 4-minute mark. A questioner asks him about foreign policy and they start to talk about the hostage crisis in 1980. Then Romney drops this nugget:

And yet, in that election, in the Jimmy Carter election, the fact that we had hostages in Iran, I mean, that was all we talked about. And we had the two helicopters crash in the desert, I mean, that was the focus, and so him [Reagan] solving that made all the difference in the world. I'm afraid today that if you simply got Iran to agree to stand down on nuclear weapons, they'd go, "Now hold on. It's really a -- "I mean, if something of that nature presents itself I will work to find a way to take advantage of the opportunity.

I'm sorry, what? If there's an international crisis where Americans die and/or hostages are taken, you'll "work to find a way to take advantage of the opportunity"?

I might not believe that's what Mitt Romney meant by this statement, if it wasn't exactly what he did down the road, when he immediately tried to politically capitalize on the attacks on our diplomatic outposts, before we even knew who had died.

I know many people have been dismayed over Governor Romney's comments about the mythical 47 percent who don't pay taxes and mooch off the government, but, to me, this is so much worse.

It shows that the political aspirations and ego of Mitt Romney have no limits -- not even national security or American lives are spared. As Commander in Chief, with the military under his control and his finger on the button, what other "opportunities" would he "find a way to take advantage of?"

I shudder to think.

 

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Watch the now infamous Romney tapes, starting at the 4-minute mark. A questioner asks him about foreign policy and they start to talk about the hostage crisis in 1980. Then Romney drops this nugget: ...
Watch the now infamous Romney tapes, starting at the 4-minute mark. A questioner asks him about foreign policy and they start to talk about the hostage crisis in 1980. Then Romney drops this nugget: ...
 
 
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nettwench
Dedicated Truther!
05:37 PM on 09/23/2012
This is an individual with no sense of history, no personal insight, who is not only blind to his own faults and weaknesses, he cannot be persuaded to ever admit a mistake, or to step outside of his astonishingly rigid worldview. Ryan is cut from the same cloth, and even more extreme.

Allowing these individuals to take the reins of our government would be akin to letting the Visigoths sack Rome. The stakes could not be higher.

Why would we want a "leader" who has contempt for 99% of the people he would be responsible to govern?
08:48 PM on 09/27/2012
Nettwench, I was nodding my head, you were obviously talking about Obama until you stated that Ryan was cut from the same cloth. Whoops!
Obama is an amateur promoted so far over his talent level that it is breath-taking. He has failed at nearly everything he has attempted, other than the problematic health care bill, and now he is running for re-election with unemployment numbers that he himself said would mean he would be a one term president. His dreams from his father will cripple our economy if we don't vote him out. He and his wife actually were never proud of America until America voted him into the White House. Is that a bit self centered?
Obama had two years of the Dems owning the house and the senate, and all he has to show is a fundamentally flawed health care bill. Obama is hurting the American dream. Every day he is in the White House is a day that will not lead to a recovery.
09:15 PM on 09/29/2012
You bring up an interesting issue that I have been thinking about for a while. I think one of the main reasons Obama is ahead in the polls is the perception people have that he is COMPETENT. He gets credit for killing Osama Bin Laden. Despite all the forecasts that ObamaCare would be overthrown by the Supreme Court, it actually passed. (Obama taught Constitutional Law at Univ of Chicago for 12 yrs.) He got the US out of Iraq. His decision to continue Bush's drone program appears to be a good one. Independent voters who are not ideologists are inevitably going to find someone like that persuasive.
12:11 AM on 09/21/2012
John, what is far more important is the underhanded treasonous way the Reagan campaign negotiated with Iran to hold off returning the hostages - until after the election. It is very appropriate that Romney is compared to Reagan in that aspect, especially with the quote you point out. Yes, he will take advantage of the opportunity.
11:46 AM on 09/25/2012
Glad you brought up Reagan and Bush's ILLEGAL negotiations with Iran...they really were illegal! That has set the stage for the last thirty years....illegal actions that aren't prosecuted, that's what came out of Watergate when Jerry Ford pardoned Nixon. It was NOT "for the good of the country". Vigorous prosecution and conviction would go a long way to restore confidence amoung the 99% which increasingly gets fingerprinted for minor offences or for to work, DNA taken from for increasingly minor offences, and illegal surveillance and unconstitutional laws and "signings" abound. Ford pardoned Nixon on behalf of the .1% and at that point they made a vow that it would never happen again...
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thepoliticalcat
Eradicate your microbioflora
04:31 PM on 09/20/2012
And how convenient that such an opportunity would present itself on that commemorated holiday that is at the root of the recent jingoism and pseudo-patriotism that has overtaken this country. And what have we here? This film was made by Americans? Anti-Muslim Americans, even, maybe? How convenient. How very, very convenient.
05:14 PM on 09/21/2012
The film was made by an anti-Muslim Egyptian Coptic Christian living in the USA.
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HawaiiShira
He that knows & knows he knows is wise.
03:56 PM on 09/20/2012
This fundraiser happened in May, an it surely sounds to me that Romney was wishing & hoping for a Middle East crisis upon which he could politically capitalize.

"I mean, if something of that nature presents itself I will work to find a way to take advantage of the opportunity."

We saw how he responded on Sept 11, 2012. He did exactly what h had already premeditated in his heart.

Romney never thought this statement would see the light of day, but it is so revealing of his character ~ or lack of one. He is unworthy of even the shortened title or anagram POTUS.
06:01 AM on 09/20/2012
AMerika's economy was/is built on WAR. Teddy Roosevelt (sp?) said "Any war will do to keep America's economy healthy." Or sumpthin' like that...
OBAMA is going to wipe his Romney with some Ryan before flushing twice-LOL
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moviefantastic
The truth shall set you free
09:57 PM on 09/19/2012
I watched the video.

Romney is scary. I kept thinking of the "Wannsee Conference" or, how to we take divide Europe.

He's not presidential material.

Would Romney consider selling the "Federalist Papers?"

What would he sell to make a buck?
09:25 PM on 09/19/2012
War would make Romney more money. I sure that is what he wants. This man is dangerous!
08:30 PM on 09/19/2012
He obviously implies some sleight-of-hand purely personal non-military gesture (at the very last moment.) Welsh wizardry!
09:35 PM on 09/19/2012
Why does the Huff Post grasp at straws and try to read into something someone says or a better phrase, twist it into what they want it to mean. Always present the facts as they are. Never suppose, assume, presume anything said politically. - It usually ends up on the side of one's political views regardless of how it's meant.
11:04 PM on 09/19/2012
If you can read that Willard quotation and not "suppose, assume or presume" then you must be some sort of cognitive god. Perhaps you can tell Willard what he meant. Nah. He doesn't know himself--just doesn't have the brains to shut his mouth.
cellarette
reading the writing on the wall...all of it.
08:29 PM on 09/19/2012
Nothing in Willard's bio up to now would cause me to conclude he would do anything BUT take advantage of such an "opportunity". In 1979 I was in school and recall big discussions taking place because there was some suspicion Reagan campaign operatives had conducted secret negotiations under the radar,and behind the Carter administration's back, basically promising the people holding our hostages a better deal if they held out 'til after our election. I believe Romney has some old Reagan people in his crew, so, you know, it is true old men get really nostalgic sometimes...
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MichaelNolan
11:21 PM on 09/19/2012
Reagan DID conduct secret negotiations with Iran. His treasonous actions led directly to the Iran-Contra Affair. This isn't a suppostion; why else would the hostages have been released as soon as he was inaugurated?
http://wjcohen.home.mindspring.com/otherclips/sick.htm
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_cr/h920205-october-clips.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
http://mountainsageblog.com/2010/05/07/ronald-reagan-interfered-with-president-carters-iran-hostage-negotiations/
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Patchdee
11:05 AM on 09/20/2012
Thanks for the links. I have always thought that Reagan played behind the scene. And the country fell for the nonsensical logic that the Iranians were so AFRAID of big, strong Reagan of Hollywood fame that they immediately opened the prison doors. Riiiiggghhtt!
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MaineSenior
Not born in Maine, but I have a right to choose
08:14 PM on 09/19/2012
Has this man ever stopped to think about what issues mean to the nation and to the world, or just how they relate to his interests?
11:17 PM on 09/19/2012
No he has not. He's never had to. I wish that people could better understand what it's like to grow up rich and privileged. Look. No one has ever said "No" to Willard. Never. He's done what he wanted when he wanted all of his life and nothing will ever change that. He regards every disaster with different eyes than you and me--for him Bain was simply doing what corporations do. He gets millions and that's the way it's supposed to be--that's the way it's always been. He saw the hostage crisis as an "opportunity" and something to exploit. He admired Reagan for doing so. It might be noteworthy that Mr Reagan negotiated with Iran before he was even President-elect. That is, he moved ahead of the Sec of State and legitimate government and cut deals with the Iranians while he was still citizen Reagan. The hostages were released on his Inauguration Day. There is even good reason to suspect that Reagan kept the hostages as such owing to a deal he made with the Iranians. In either case, he committed treason. Sometimes a fellow has to commit a little treason to make a buck--right Willard?
06:41 AM on 09/20/2012
Obama also grew up rich, he lived in the best neighborhood in indonesia, then lived in hawaii went to a private school, then columbia, and harvard, So lets be fair here obama also had a nice upbringing.
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Patchdee
11:07 AM on 09/20/2012
F&F. Happy to be your newest fan. Great comments!
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Smithn
~ 13.7 Billion Years:::: i am not. BANG! I am.
07:13 PM on 09/19/2012
This is the difference between a silver spoon opportunist and a Nobel Peace Prize. Trust me, i'm not voting for the shadow pouncing Opportunist!
07:49 PM on 09/19/2012
A Nobel Peace Prize for doing what exactly?
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Smithn
~ 13.7 Billion Years:::: i am not. BANG! I am.
08:19 PM on 09/19/2012
For being the soul of Authenticity.
08:22 PM on 09/19/2012
Keeping McCain from starting more wars.
09:15 PM on 09/19/2012
Wow can u please tell me what obama did to win the noble piece prize? What an embarrassment he didnt do a dman thing to win it. Another thing it came out it wasnt the film that cause the riot in liybia they had this planned for days and if obama would read his intel he could of had marines to protect r people, but instead u guys want to talk about other things. Man i voted for obama if i knew the media was going to protect him and kiss his ass because he is r first black president i wouldnt of even bothered. I want r media to do there damn job and report it all not just against romney. Its wrong and if u guys had a little sense u would see it. If obama wins i hope he takes all the money u guys earn and give it to some drug user sitting on the couch getting stoned.
12:11 AM on 09/20/2012
Where are your facts?? I keep hearing stories, but no facts. Do you find it suspicious that the Libyan president knew so much so quickly?? Doesn't want Americans investigating? I don't think it impossible there is a cover-up, but I want more than stories.
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Glenna Jones-Kachtik
10:16 AM on 09/20/2012
Yeah, kinda like "Osama bin Laden determined to strike inside the USA" & the 1,000s of other PDBs Bush got before they bombed the world trade center??? Quit watching FOX. I am not making excuses for the President. He has done plenty of things I don't like...But the fact that a TV "news network" makes up half of it's news & employs Romney campaign workers as pundits???? I don't think you can get any more biased than that.
As far as that drug user sitting on the couch getting stoned - why is it that you would condone all the corporate welfare going on? They take more money from the government than any of the poor.
06:53 PM on 09/19/2012
Listen, I'm no fan of Romney's, but I think he was saying in this part that he'd take advantage of the situation to solve a problem as Reagan did. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

As for the rest, it's just unbelievable. Not only does he not understand the tax issue, he's offensive in his misleading take on the situation.

I agree with the commenter that mentioned off-shore tax havens while being the commander-in-chief. That's something to think about. One I hadn't thought of.
08:53 PM on 09/19/2012
You are giving Romney to much credit. His need and desire to be President is like an obsession and I really do believe he will do and say anything to make it happen for himself. His actions of jumping in before he had all the facts, and before the next of kin was notified to attack Obama is disgusting. He wanted to take advantage of a dreadful situation for political purposes. I am so glad it backfired on him. I am glad it wasn't one of my sons that got killed that day. He could't care enough about our troops or their families when he gave his acceptance speech and it was an opportunity lost. This was not the time to criticize Obama about our service men. He should have stayed out of it until the President addressed it. He took a bad time and made it worse and only thought about himself. I pray that voter suppression doesn't keep Obama from being President again. God help us all if it does
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YankeeCanuck
dog
02:22 AM on 09/20/2012
Raegan solved exactly nothing.
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ThermoChemist
"Forewarned Is Forearmed"
05:53 PM on 09/19/2012
As the saying goes:
"the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior".

If he did it with Libya (seek political gain from misfortune) I'm sure he'll do WHENEVER it
suits him in the future; with NO reservations -- what-s0-ever..!
05:53 PM on 09/19/2012
Take advantage of the opportunity? Um....smh, I don't even know what to say anymore.
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Rascal7
Don't mistake my kindness for weakness
05:53 PM on 09/19/2012
From a guy who's tax money is offshore that doesn't benefit the veterans and military families.
07:47 PM on 09/19/2012
There's just one reason to park money in offshore accounts, and that's to hide it. Of course it doesn't benefit vets and military families, don't you know they are on their own?
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MichaelNolan
11:23 PM on 09/19/2012
According to Romney, the vets and military families are leeches.
10:18 AM on 09/20/2012
Nothing he says makes me more furious. I was totally against that unjustified war in Iraq, but I'm TOTALLY FOR our vets and military families (and do what I can to back this up, like supporting VoteVets.org).
06:46 AM on 09/20/2012
He did pay over 3 million in taxes what did u pay?
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LeftRight
TANSTAAFL
08:32 AM on 09/20/2012
More than he did by the only way to measure it. He paid 13.9% in the one year we've seen, whereas I paid more than 25% in federal income taxes...
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Glenna Jones-Kachtik
10:36 AM on 09/20/2012
Why do you excuse the fact that he has offshore accounts, money is swiss banks & in tax shelters??? Why do you excuse the fact that unless you are making $200,000 - $250,000 a year (which is what HE considers Middle Class) you are not even on his radar? Why do you keep excusing the fact that unlike every other candidate for office EVER Mitt Romney refuses to disclose his tax returns???

Mitt Romney may have paid over 3 million in taxes (trust him???) but it is a pittance for what he made....There is a difference between someone paying 25% while making $100,000 a year & someone who is taxed at 35% but only effectively ends up paying 10-15% while making $10,000,000 a year, When you hide your money so that you effectively don't pay taxes on it - when you outsource jobs YOU aren't exactly investing in America....but then you want people to vote you into the highest office of the land??? Mind boggling.