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Jon Soltz

Jon Soltz

Posted: July 15, 2008 03:10 PM

Is McCain Flip-Flopping, Calling for Draft, or Just in Fantasy Land?


Welcome to the party, Senator McCain.

Five years ago, on the April 10, 2003 Hannity and Colmes, John McCain said, "Nobody in Afghanistan threatens the United States of America and nobody is running terrorist training camps to orchestrate attacks on the United States of America." And, for the next five years, those "nobodies" made significant gains in Afghanistan, as McCain and President Bush focused on Iraq.

Today, apparently, Afghanistan is a threat and John McCain is just the man who knows how to "win wars," as he said in response to Senator Obama's speech on our global commitments. Actually, this is more like Senator McCain recognizing that Senator Obama, with his long-standing view that we needed to focus on Afghanistan, is about to look prescient about Afghanistan, and a lot tougher on the terrorists than John McCain. So, as Obama called for an increase in the number of troops in Afghanistan, McCain teased that this week, he'll call for a "surge" there.

One problem: He can't do it.

Senator Obama's plan is eminently workable, as he will begin the redeployment of troops from Iraq and up the numbers in Afghanistan. Admiral Mike Mullen said as much, when he said that he, too, would like to send more troops to Afghanistan, but couldn't do so until we found a way to get troops home from Iraq.

Senator McCain, however, hits a pretty big snag.

If he's serious about an indefinite commitment to Iraq, with no timetable for when they come home, he doesn't have the troops to make any meaningful "surge" in Afghanistan. It's not as simple as saying he'll just take the surge brigades from Iraq and ship them directly to Afghanistan. Not if he also wants to boost the number of active duty troops on the homefront, as he has said he will do as President, and keep force levels up in Iraq as he has indicated he will do. Because troops need a certain time at home between deployments, there are only so many troops in our armed forces, and McCain just won't have what he needs to do what he says he'll do.

Unless....

He can get the troops he needs if he does a complete flip flop on Iraq and announces that he will back the Obama plan, bringing troops home from Iraq at a steady pace, which would allow rested troops to deploy to Afghanistan, soon to be joined by troops home from Iraq who had time to rest.

Or, he can get the troops he needs if he implements a draft. That would boost the number of troops training and available here on the homefront, allowing him to send more readied troops to Afghanistan, and keep up his commitment to Iraq.

I should also note here that McCain won't be able to count on NATO to meet and expand its commitment to Afghanistan, either, because his stance on Iraq is the same as President Bush's, and will be met with the same result. Namely, that various Presidents and Prime Ministers will find it politically impossible to send more troops to Afghanistan. So forget NATO providing the troops.

If he knows how to win wars, as he says, then Senator McCain also must know how to do simple math. If he is serious about doing what he says he's going to do in Afghanistan, then he should explain to the American people that it will mean he has abandoned his stubborn position on Iraq, or he will institute the draft.

And, if he won't give America some straight talk on that, maybe, for once, the media will dare to ask Senator McCain a tough question or two.

UPDATE: Geesh, that was fast. The Washington Post reports that Senator McCain already has backtracked:

In an interview with reporters aboard his campaign bus, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) modified his assertion today that the U.S. could send three additional brigades to Afghanistan by drawing on troops that were leaving Iraq.

The presumptive GOP nominee, who made his initial remarks in a speech before an Albuquerque audience, told reporters just minutes after the event that he might call on NATO to supply part of the additional troops he hopes to send to the region.

"We need to work that out, we need to have greater participation from our NATO allies, and we need a lot more help from our NATO allies," the senator said. "We need to -- I laid it out in my speech, we need to have strategy, not just an injection of troops. I think that's true of all counterinsurgencies."

As I wrote above, I don't know why Senator McCain believes that Europe would rush to boost their numbers in Afghanistan when the unpopularity of the Bush-McCain endless war in Iraq has only led them to have to remove their troops. That's not going to change. So it only took a few minutes for the McCain plan for Afghanistan to completely unravel.

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Welcome to the party, Senator McCain. Five years ago, on the April 10, 2003 Hannity and Colmes, John McCain said, "Nobody in Afghanistan threatens the United States of America and nobody is running t...
Welcome to the party, Senator McCain. Five years ago, on the April 10, 2003 Hannity and Colmes, John McCain said, "Nobody in Afghanistan threatens the United States of America and nobody is running t...
 
 
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07:10 PM on 07/16/2008
It has been my experience that few Naval officers are trained to fight a ground war. John McCain was a Naval aviator he was not a seal. I can not figure out where he got this experience in winning wars. Where is General Patton when we need him or some one cut from the same mold. Obama has no clue about how to win a war but if he has the right military advisers then he could do it I think he would listen do to his lack of knowledge on the military.

At the time I served there was a draft and the country lived through it. It gave most every one a chance to know what a honor it is to serve your country.
Berettasskeeter
For what we are about to receive, may we be truly
10:43 PM on 07/21/2008
He got his training where a goodly number of our Officers get theirs. The Academies, either the Service or private establishments, have been training a fair percentage of our officers for almost 200 years, or haven't you been paying attention?! Further, his long service in the Congress has equipped him with the experience and military knowledge that he may have missed during his captivity.
Or, does none of that count?
Semper fi
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DMW1
Carpe diem
02:37 PM on 07/16/2008
I don't think many people realize how many military officials and politicians have been calling for the draft lately. Many are saying it will be necessary just to maintain in Iraq. Obviously, if we need more troops in Afghanistan and want to send troops to Iran we're going to fall way short.

McCain himself has stated we don't have a big enough army and that's why he was against the new GI Bill (he was afraid it would hurt retention).

Read the facts yourself:
http://www.stopthinkvote.com/facts/militaryfacts.html
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rbenjamin
Rule 5 rules
02:02 PM on 07/16/2008
There is yet another way to get more boots on the ground. Take USAF and Navy personnel and retrain them to infantry or support roles. Lots of historical precedence for this expedient. From what I read the Pentagon is already doing this in a limited way.
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murphysgirl
I prefer coffee, not tea..
11:43 AM on 07/16/2008
Thanks John for a spot-on piece!! The one thing that really frustrates me is that the media keeps refering to John McCain sticking his neck out in support of a surge in Iraq. Ok that's nice and all but now it's time to move forward with an actual strategy to strengthen Iraqi soldiers and also ensure poltical stability in Iraq as well. With a timetable for US troop withdrawl, more pressure on the Iraqis to reach these goals could be achieved at a steadier pace than McCain's proposal to have a "100 year" presence.

Why hasn't the media called out John McCain over his everday flip-flopping on foreign policy and a list of other things rather than parsing every noun, verb and syllable that Obama says?
10:03 AM on 07/16/2008
McCain could end up being worse than Bush. Imagine that!
09:30 AM on 07/16/2008
Excellent piece, Jon, and the perfect example of how mc-same-ol'-same-ol' is JUST another 'have your cake and eat it too' republicant.

Doing everything they can to co-opt ALL national security issues, mc-same and the preznutz repeatedly say that Senator Obama doesn't understand foreign affairs yet somehow amazingly slide towards his suggested policies daily on Afghanistan, Pakistan, and to now even meeting with Iran diplomatically.

The correct phrase might be, "Talking out of both sides of their mouths", or perhaps better yet
...just "Talkin' out their a$$".
07:41 AM on 07/16/2008
Great Article....
12:29 AM on 07/16/2008
All of a sudden Big John is channeling Vietnam. If he could just extend the fight in Iraq maybe it would make up for the failure in Vietnam.
01:23 AM on 07/16/2008
And then cover the failure in Iraq by increasing the carnage in Afghanistan and then cover the failure in Afghanistan by starting a war with Iran.
Makes perfect scene if your totally out of your mind!
09:52 PM on 07/15/2008
Again the MSM is conspicuous by its absence on this story.

The reporters that ask these questions for the MSM, and then don't get their story run, must be quite frustrated.
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marinemomof3
Bring them home NOW!
08:35 PM on 07/15/2008
Thank you John for ANOTHER great article and also being able to tell what is really going on from a
VETS prospective.
I can't thank you for all that you and yours do, day in and day out, for our military, veterans, and their families!

Semper Fidelis
to my kids
07:55 PM on 07/15/2008
That's probably why Mr. McCain was up here in Canada a week or so back... Maybe looking
to see if he can get us to commit more of our (CDN) troops to the Afghan effort. He may
have been given some promises by the Harper gang, but in reality, the majority of the
population here is really starting to have buyers regret of having allowed our NATO
commitments to get to where they are now, let alone dig in any further.. Yep, I would
expect a draft of some sort to have to come back to find the troops that will be needed
to fight two (and with a McCain presidency) maybe three wars at once.. In the worst
case that he were to start up a war in Iran, well, Iraq and Afghanistan will be the least
of our worries...

$.002 (well, maybe $.005, US buck isn't worth so much here these days...)
d.
08:43 PM on 07/15/2008
Can I move to Canada? I will give up my US citizenship. I have had it with this sh*T
06:23 AM on 07/16/2008
I highly recommend for folks to come up and just take a break from the US..
I spent most of my life, 45+ years in the US, and it's a great country. But
not if you get seriously ill as I did, where Canada welcomed me back with
full medical coverage with no questions asked, other than "where does it
hurt?". You don't realize how hard of a right turn the US has taken until
you come here and decompress from the 9/11/Bush inspired mania.
Sure, it's not perfect, no country is, and we have our lunatic's as well.
Well, about now some stooge is going to come along and call me
some kinda "commie"...

$.005

d.
07:39 PM on 07/16/2008
I have never heard of Canada not fulfilling its NATO obligations. There is a limit to what can be asked of any NATO country.

One thing I can not understand is how do you people swim in them damn cold lakes that water must be just above freezing.
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mouselion
07:44 PM on 07/15/2008
How does this look to the world?

One nation doesn't attack us -- we throw our entire economy at a war there.

Another nation harbors the leadership of the attackers of 9/11 (whom our leader vowed to track down and kill) -- yet, we insist that nation plead its case in front of the rest of the world, as if not our major conern.

So far out on the Bush Doctrine limb, you'll get vertigo if you look down.
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Torus34
A poor old country mouse.
07:15 PM on 07/15/2008
For goodness sakes, man!

Don't confuse Senator McCain with facts!
07:15 PM on 07/15/2008
What's wrong with Jesse Ventura's approach...if God tells him that no timeline is the appropriate course of action today, there's no reason by 5 o'clock tomorrow God can't tell him differently. I'm getting the feeling our Creator likes to live in the moment.
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06:52 PM on 07/15/2008
He has made oblique references to "national service," and when I surf to the Library of Congress web-site at http://thomas.loc.gov I think I see what he's referring to: the National Service Act of 2007. (Look it up.)

Under this law, every male OR female(!) from age 18 to 42(!) could be conscripted into "national service," whatever that means ... and "whatever that means" is basically, "whatever the President says to do."

Trouble is, Jon, I believe that this sort of policy and strategy ... though launched in the name of and with the justification of "homeland security" and "national defense" ... actually works dead-AGAINST such objectives. As "Ike" Eisenhower warned, a fixation on war is a hugely-profitable thing, but it comes to dominate all other thinking. To a war-baron, "this is an attractive solution to our 'personnel problem.' " But war-barons should not be running our country.
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RS
I think, therefore, I don't listen to Limbaugh
11:05 PM on 07/15/2008
Well, as per the title of one of Rush Limbaugh's books--"SEE, I TOLD YOU SO!" I've mentioned NUMEROUS TIMES on this blog that if McCain wins in November, he would reinstate the draft almost instantly.
11:21 PM on 07/15/2008
Actually, if the draft would have zero exemptions and deferrments, NO EXCEPTIONS, the war would end in a month. That would be goodness.
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deminmo
just looking for answers
07:44 PM on 07/16/2008
Sundial,
It (HR393) refers to service in either active military combat
service or civilian service for a period of two years. I checked
with my Representative who is on the committee, and this is
still active but also still in committee. It would likely not make
a big difference in military service when people are given the
option of combat service. Guess it would boil down to the
incentives offered. I know a lot of people in my family would be
affected.