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Jon Soltz

Jon Soltz

Posted February 27, 2009 | 09:43 AM (EST)

On the Right Path, Finally, in Iraq


Today's announcement from President Obama on the future in Iraq is encouraging. Removing roughly 100,000 troops from Iraq while leaving residual training and specialized forces is a huge step toward winding down the war. Those of us who served in Iraq have fought for this for years. We commend President Obama for having the clarity of vision to do what is right, and follow through with his promise to begin the process of redeploying from Iraq.

It goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway: The war in Iraq was one that should have never been waged, and one which led to years of lost opportunity in Afghanistan, billions of dollars wasted, a tarnished reputation around the world, and thousands of young American lives tragically lost. It made America less safe, and decimated our military. It is the main reason that VoteVets.org was formed. It's the reason that we've spent millions of dollars over the past few years to push policymakers to redeploy, not escalate, in Iraq.

Now, getting out of Iraq won't be quick, and it won't be easy. In many ways, it's tougher to get out of a war, than it is to get into it. As we leave, there may be casualties, and if there are, there's always the temptation to send forces back in.

But, the President must not give in to any temptation if that time comes. President Obama must continue this direction in Iraq, with the ultimate goal of having all troops out of Iraq by the end of 2011, or earlier, as agreed to in the Status of Forces Agreement with the Iraqi government.

If President Obama does continue to draw down - and we believe he will - we will be more secure, and our military will now have a chance to repair the damage done to it by the previous administration.

Today's announcement from President Obama on the future in Iraq is encouraging. Removing roughly 100,000 troops from Iraq while leaving residual training and specialized forces is a huge step toward ...
Today's announcement from President Obama on the future in Iraq is encouraging. Removing roughly 100,000 troops from Iraq while leaving residual training and specialized forces is a huge step toward ...
 
 
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12:27 AM on 03/04/2009
President Barrack, we know you have a lot on your plate, and these are very difficult times for everybody. But we think you are making a grave mistake if you do not support investigating Bush and his administration for high crimes. Our democracy is based on laws. Your credibility and trust to the American people, and to the world community could be severely damaged, if you turn your back on justice. Know one is above the law. We must make them accountable if we expect to regain the trust and respect around the world, which is crucial in winning the war on terrorism. Our democracy must be made accountable. We must not turn our backs on, justice for all. We cannot forget the deaths, pain, suffering that America, the contributing countries, and the innocent Iraqi’s all had too endured. We believe you should not get over involved in the investigations because of the overwhelming problems that you are dealing with. But we believe that you should do everything in your power to make sure, that these investigations occur.
11:49 AM on 03/02/2009
i CANNOT BELIEVE OBAMA IS PULLING TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ ONLY TO PILE THOUSANDS MORE INTO AFGANASTAN. WHAT THE HELL IS HE THINKING?? THAT WAR WILL RUIN HIM POLITICALLY JUST AS IRAQ RUINED BUSH. WE NEED TO LET EUROPEANS HANDLE THAT WAR OVER THERE THEY ARE MORE CLOSE TO IT AND MORE AT RISK THAN THE US IS. WE JUST GO FROM ONE WAR TO ANOTHER NO MATTER WHO WINS THE ELECTION. OBAMA IS TURNING ON SO MANY OF HIS PROMISES IN THE CAMPAIGN HOW DOES HE HOPE TO EVER BE REELECTED. HE IS GIVING REPUBLICANS AN OPEN DOOR FOR 2010. THIS IS ONE OBAMA VOTER WHO WOULD NEVER TRUST HIM AGAIN MUCH LESS VOTE FOR HIM.
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gabemill
02:57 PM on 03/02/2009
Obama campaigned to address the Afghanistan/Pakistan issue. He is delivering on that promise, not breaking it.
You remember Afghanistan, right? That's the country that welcomed bin Laden, as he plotted and carried out the attacks of 9/11 (on America, not Europe). It was the country, under the Taliban, that outlawed woman from attending school. It was the country that required its women to bury themselves under walking body bags, to prevent a sliver of flesh from being revealed. Afghanistan is also the largest producer of opium worldwide, and has expanded production each year since 2004. It is the country where the Taliban and Al-Qaeda are currently resurgent and gaining ground. It is the country we should have focused on from the beginning. Aside from the false hysteria manufactured by the bush administration, there was never a reason to be in Iraq.

Jon:
Thanks for your service to the country and for the good work you continue at VoteVets........

Nam Vet
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lynettema
Little old lady
06:31 PM on 03/01/2009
Thanks, Jon. For your service and for recognizing the responsible way in which Obama plans to bring our troops home. We all wish it could be faster. Even at this pace, there will be terrible difficulty. Let's just celebrate this change in attitude and policy toward our soldiers. The soldiers at camp Le Jeune gave President Obama such a warm welcome and welcomed his words, applauded his plans. This is not perfection, President Obama did not get us into this mess and let's support his efforts to remove us from this terrible situation.
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marignymitch
E pluribus unum percent
04:37 PM on 03/01/2009
With all due respect, Mr Soltz. Obama last week said we're not leaving. That's a path to further calamity in my book. (They don't hate us for our freedoms; they hate us because we're THERE. I look forward to the day when Americans and their leaders finally get this.)
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bighat
Truth as I see it
05:25 PM on 02/28/2009
The war was wrong. Obama should not leave any troops behind. In fact he should instigate the largest, quickest, troop and equipment withdrawal in history.

some of you think the war is over. Russia is claiming the Arctic circle (for minerals). Even planted a flag in the seabed. What will Obama do? Send them a card saying WELL DONE.
02:45 PM on 02/28/2009
Now, President Obama, please admit that The Surge was the right thing to do, and that you were wrong in opposing it.
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billw8017
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10:37 PM on 02/28/2009
The President has already said that the surge succeeded. This is one of his slips: Our "success" in Iraq has little to do with the surge. Getting rid of the CPA was a good step as it took the neo cons out of Iraq. Of course, they ruined the country when, already ruined, it needed to be rebuilt and by their abiding ruination inspired the insurgency and the civil war. The Iraqi want us out and some polls indicate over 90% of the Iraqi feel their country cannot recover while the US lingers.

Basically, Petraeus and Crocker co opted the insurgency by buying off some local leaders, a standard and effective scheme always possible. That they could introduce a modicum of sanity into another Bush screw up is a credit to them. It indicates an enduring competence in our military and diplomatic agents once the ideologues are shamed off.

The United States always has the ability to withdraw from Iraq. All we have to do is leave. If we simply declare victory, nobody has any reason to deny us this little consolation. One thing modern armies do not do well is try to be policemen. They end up punishing civilians while the resistance gains popularity and support by "avenging" those civilian casualties.
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billw8017
History looks like this
10:54 PM on 02/28/2009
When I think of the inadequacy of a modern army as a police force, I am thinking of the Union occupation of the South in Reconstruction. The German army in the Balkans was similarly mired down. The little civil war between the monarchy and the Communists was won by the Communists because they did not waver when the Germans punished the civilians.

More recently, our war in Vietnam, though a horrible success in many ways, inspired a resistance that totally replaced its soldiers as we killed them. At the end, the Cong made fearless but clumsy soldiers because of the constant replacement while their Generals were highly skilled as they survived and took lessons from experience.

Israel's futility in Gaza and Lebanon are other examples. They can kill all their enemies, but they can't make them quit. Like the Israeli, we are training adversaries in Afghanistan and Iraq. We can ride through, killing both those guilty of resistance and those who only wish to be ignored. We cannot win that way: There is nothing in Afghanistan for us to win. Killing Bin Laden would be nice and, if we hang around long enough, he will die a natural death sooner or later.
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dianhow
former Repub till W
11:33 AM on 03/01/2009
Car 84 Obama opposed the war from the start. Surge or no surge-you miss the main point. We should NOT have went in -period. As Colin Powell said ' Now we own it " AFter being there 6 years and losing many lives and trillion dollars- the devil is how to get out without causing more problems. Sunni's & Shite's hate one another- even though McCAin said otherwise..
Obama won because of the GOP policies of deregulation & trickle down, and having 'no control
on Wall ST. McCain now agrees with Obama's 19 month plan to withdraw..How weird is that ?
01:40 PM on 02/28/2009
Maybe we will not accept such terms as, the war in Iraq. Maybe we'll decide it wasn't a war, but an invasion/occupation to control oil, and Bush/Cheney used lies to our troops and the rest of us to make it happen. An invasion/occupation of a sovereign nation needs to end as ugly as it began. No excuses, no deception, just bring the troops home, and do it now.
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11:02 AM on 02/28/2009
No - you could not be any more wrong. Everyday that our troop remain on Iraq soil is another day that we are continuing the crimes of Bush. Mass murder, lies, and an illegal invasion of sovereign nation for very suspect reasons. We have commited, perhaps, the great single crime since Stalin died.

We need to leave and bring the troops home. We can do it this quickly, in days, not months or years. And then Iraq will be Iraq.
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LizM
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01:25 PM on 02/28/2009
I understand your sentiments, completely! And, I really wish that a withdrawal of US forces from Iraq could be accomplished as you imply.

But, what we have here is a very dicey situation. Any withdrawal of forces needs to happen very carefully and in the context of a serious diplomatic initiative, involving the US, UN and the regional and major powers, to facilitate a political settlement between and within the major groups in Iraq that is sustainable and that all Iraqis can live with. While the Iraqis are the only ones who can determine their political future, they are going to need a lot of support to get these negotiations going and to secure whatever accommodation that they are able to achieve.

And, it's not like any of this has been tried before and not been successful. Finally, we have an administration that understands exactly what will be required to responsibly withdraw US forces without leaving a failed and fragmented state in their wake. It seems to me that the Iraqi people are owed at least an honest effort to help them rebuild their country and their future.

If the withdrawal takes place quickly, in the absence or failure of political reconciliation at the national level, then we are all in for a very, very rough ride - Iraqis, the US, the region...and the rest of us out in the world, too!
01:43 PM on 02/28/2009
Your premise is fatally flawed. Our troops are the finest in the world. The sargent gives the order, and the troops move. It's that easy. When night arrives, sentry duty alerts troops to danger. They can camp out in Dubai, while they wait their turn to come home. It's that simple.
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dianhow
former Repub till W
11:41 AM on 03/01/2009
Many will fault OBama for his Iraq plan- but this is a huge problem- no matter what he does- it could turn out poorly. I sure hope not. But I support Obama- he has done a good job so far & goten a lot done. These 2 wars are what I'm worried about and how or if they will end. Bush /Cheney really did leave Obama an incredible amount of problems- almost like they planned it that way- so Obama will lose in 4 years. But I won't fall for that, none of us should. Or Bush / Cheney get the last laugh !!.
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02:36 AM on 02/28/2009
Amen. And thank you for your service. I was raised in a pacifist tradition, but I believe Obama is taking the only reasonable course of action. I was on the frontlines of the protests in the the run-up to the war, but once it began, I was never comfortable with "bring the troops home now" as an absolute demand. If I had a slogan it would probably be "Develop the best possible exit strategy." Not very catchy, but it's something Bush never did and-- it seems to most of us -- never intended to do.

Blind ideology is counterproductive, no matter what side it's on. Nancy Pelosi saying "50,000 sounds like a lot" isn't that far from Ben Nelson saying "$800 billion is just too much" -- which was arbitrary and unhelpful. Obama's greatest asset is his abilty to see multiple sides of an argument, listen to experts and laypeople alike, but in the end make a decision that gives appropriate weight to expertise, reason, and his own conscience. I don't agree with every decision he makes, but I respect the process he seems to use to reach them.
11:09 PM on 02/27/2009
For just once I wish people would stop all the political posturing and look at an issue with common sense. First, realize that no one except George Bush knows what was in his heart and mind when
he pushed to invade Iraq. To suggest that it was all about oil, money and contracts would make him out to be some kind of power driven dictator. If you think that is the case then compare him with Saddam . Second, to suggest that all we have done in Iraq is kill and rape their country is insanity. My son is a Marine who served two tours in Iraq and his story of what went on for the majority of his two tours is vary different than the picture we get in the media. Did terrible things happen and were civilians killed? Yes,
that has happened in every war. But we never hear of all the good that has been done in Iraq by our country. Think of the fact that we have let them determine their own form of government. What other country would do that while helping them rebuild? Let us wait about ten years then draw our conclusions about the war in Iraq. It may be viewed completely different than it is now.
10:43 AM on 02/28/2009
No one blames our troops, the just folowed orders. But the facts are, we invaded a sovereign nation that was no threat to us - that's illegal and immoral. A million civilians have died. Iraq is now infested with terrorists and remains on the verge of civil war The country's economy is in hock to a handful of American crporations. The people have been terrorized by torture and oppression condoned by Bush ad Cheney when not out-rght ordered by them. The good we did there?! I'm ashamed, and anyone with any decency who's followed the real story ought to be. Bush was worse than Saddam Hussein, in part because the world expects far better from us. We should, too.
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mythmorph
12:07 PM on 02/28/2009
No, of course we don't know what went on in the "mind" of Bush, prompting his illegal invasion of Iraq. To dismiss the "power-driven dictator" side of him is disingenuous at best. To suspect that personal aggrandizement was at least a huge part of it, is fairly obvious to this poster, at least. That and --uh -- as he's revealed: God told him to do it.

If you don't think it was about oil, money, and contracts, ask yourself why Bush didn't turn his conquistador temperament towards rearranging the extant government towards reconstruction of a different, even more, desperate country: like Haiti? I know, I know; he doesn't even know from Haiti -- but my point is that there are myriad places on earth in which the population is enslaved, terrorized, and murdered at the whim of their leaders. Poor, "insignificant" countries....OIL-less countries.

So -- why Iraq? Hmmmmm. Oil? Money? Contracts? Ya think? Hmmmmm.
12:36 PM on 02/28/2009
Unfortunately, Bush knew enough about Haiti to support the Haitian military's overthrow of the legally elected government so more contracts could be signed with US corporations paying dividends to his personal friends. I'm afraid there isn't a country to be named that Bush did't try to corrupt somehow.
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bighat
Truth as I see it
05:34 PM on 02/28/2009
Oh, I just love it when someone thinks they are an intellectual and writes HMMMM, ya think.

If Bush was doing what you believe why not just take over the country. Plant a U.S. Flag and claim the country and the oil as ours. Let everyone that does not like it flee to syria, yemen, saudi arabia. your house or wherever.

You really incense me. Just what could we do in Haiti. What could we have done in Darfur/ If we picked a side there would be those that would consider us as aiding and abetting genocide. And they would be right because govt and the rebels have done unspeakable things.

Now we could have taken over the countries and established law.

You say there is nothing to gain in haiti. How about an island resort possibly a paradise. Just transport the rebellious natives to some other country like cuba or somebody else we do not like.
11:07 PM on 02/27/2009
Jon, you object to fighting Islamic jihadists in Afghanistan, Iraq, anywhere but here? I am a Southeast Asia War vet, combat disabled, decorated a few times for Valor in combat action, retired, 21 years active duty - encompassed Southeast Asia-Grenada - 38 total in uniform. Although JFK got us into, LBJ continued and RMN got us out in ways that could have been done long before the carnage over there in SEA, I am glad we fought the Soviet Communist surrogates there and in Grenads rather than here in the CONUS.
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Shavano
09:59 PM on 02/27/2009
First, I want to say thanks for your service! Second, I agree with you. Third, Obama's choice in this area shows his genuine grasp of the situation and his pragmatic approach to solving problems. I am continuously amazed at his ability to do the right thing even when it's an unbelievably tough choice.

I did my time in Vietnam and I wish to God we would have had a president like this back in '71.
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NABNYC
09:04 PM on 02/27/2009
President Obama spoke to an audience of Marines today at Camp LeJeune, North Carolina. His biggest line was when he said (essentially) that the most privileged people in our country have spent the last 8 years stealing, lying, cheating, lining their own pockets while destroying our nation, but these people in the military had done the right thing, signing up to serve the country and put their lives on the line to defend it. Corny, but think about it.

Most of the people who have been engaged in massive looting, pillaging, raping of our nation, stealing grandma's retirement, and having no feelings of compassion for the other people in this country whatsoever, are educated, wealthy, privileged, connected people. And that is how they behaved. It's quite a contrast with the very poorly-paid yet much more honorable people in our military services.

See: "Marines: Why Do They Call Them Jarheads" at http://NABNYC.blogspot.com [because the mason jar company converted during World War II and made Marine helmets].
07:47 PM on 02/27/2009
It is time to end the white christian slaughter of muslims.
07:29 PM on 02/27/2009
$1 trillion dollars, 1 million dead Iraqis, Iraq's infrastructure destroyed, 5 million Iraqi refugees and for nothing.

There is nothing to be proud of. It was a crime fromn beginning to end. End th eoccupation of Iraq and the dreams of world empire. Bring all the troops home from all the countries of the world if we want security.
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Roses
In a gentle way, you can shake the world.
12:37 AM on 02/28/2009
Add the destruction to the health and bodies of many of our finest young people. We have yet to see the scope.