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ReThink Review: The Kids Are All Right -- On Gay Parents, Divorce and Marrying Murderers

Posted: 08/17/10 03:52 AM ET

Buoyed by rave reviews and positive word of mouth, Lisa Cholodenko's film The Kids Are All Right is expanding into more theaters and exposing Americans to something they probably haven't seen before -- a gay married couple raising children. According to Republicans, this is something you should be deathly afraid of, since gay people marrying could bring about the end of civilization, and gay parents are inherently unfit to raise children. So Republicans wouldn't want you to see a movie like The Kids Are All Right, where Nic (Annette Bening) and Jules (Julianne Moore) raise their two teenage children (Mia Wasikowska and Josh Hutcherson) in a way that is shockingly, disturbingly... normal.

Watch my ReThink Review of The Kids Are All Right and discussion with Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks about gay marriage, what the Bible says about divorce, and how Cenk ruined Mark Ruffalo's conversation with Pierce Brosnan below.

If the opponents of gay marriage are really motivated by the desire to protect children from living in less than optimal parenting arrangements, then they are truly (or willfully) ignoring the elephant in the room: divorce. In fact, there are few things that can potentially do more damage to a child's psychological, and even physical well-being, than divorce. Here are just a few of the shocking statistics I found at a website for marriage counseling:

Half of all American children will witness the breakup of a parent's marriage.

Studies in the early 1980s showed that children in repeat divorces earned lower grades, and their peers rated them as less pleasant to be around.

Teenagers in single-parent families and in blended families are three times more likely to need psychological help within a given year.

Compared to children from homes disrupted by death, children from divorced homes have more psychological problems.

Following divorce, children are fifty percent more likely to develop health problems than two parent families.

Most victims of child molestation come from single-parent households or are the children of drug-ring members.

A child in a female-headed home is 10 times more likely to be beaten or murdered.

Seventy percent of long-term prison inmates grew up in broken homes.

People who come from broken homes are almost twice as likely to attempt suicide than those who do not come from broken homes.

Considering the increased risks faced by the approximately 35 million children from divorced heterosexual couples, how can gay marriage opponents claim that banning gay marriage is anything close to an effective way to protect children? Instead, why not outlaw divorce? Why not force members of a divorced couple with children to marry someone else immediately? Gay marriage opponents claim that any parenting unit other than a married heterosexual couple should be barred by law, yet when millions of heterosexual couples willfully destroy that supposedly perfect unit, they say nothing.

Why are our worst criminals allowed to marry while in jail? In a practice that is more common than anyone would like to acknowledge, serial killers (especially ones who enjoy some level of fame or notoriety) are often proposed to by multiple women. Why are serial killers allowed to marry and gay people aren't?

Also, if protecting children is the paramount concern, why are there no laws preventing murderers, rapists, child molesters, or people with violent histories from getting married and having children? If a child molester is released from prison, he has to notify his neighbors and keep away from places kids gather, but there's no law stopping him from marrying and having children of his own. Why not? Are gay marriage opponents really serious about protecting children from all threats, real, potential and imagined?


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Buoyed by rave reviews and positive word of mouth, Lisa Cholodenko's film The Kids Are All Right is expanding into more theaters and exposing Americans to something they probably haven't seen before -...
Buoyed by rave reviews and positive word of mouth, Lisa Cholodenko's film The Kids Are All Right is expanding into more theaters and exposing Americans to something they probably haven't seen before -...
 
 
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alaskan
02:01 AM on 08/31/2010
I am staunchly pro-gay marriage.
I love Ruffalo, love Benning, love LOVE Juilianne Moore.
I also thought this movie was the worst film I've ever seen.

It was horribly acted - stiff and uncomfortable; but so not in an intentional way. The script was dull and lacked humanity or warmth, not to mention hugely insulting to married lesbian couples. I mean, c'mon -- a woman married for twenty years is FINALLY tempted to have an affair by a MAN? As if that's all she's been missing all these years - a man?

I have no idea why this film got a single positive review. I was excited to see it, but after about 20 minutes I wanted so badly to walk out but I was with friends and trapped in the middle of a row. The film was torture.
06:11 PM on 08/18/2010
Not sure what to think of this article. I agree with gay marriage and the rights of gay people to have or adopt kids, but after all can't married gays divorce as well, and wouldn't that also affect the kids?
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10:45 PM on 08/17/2010
I wish there were studies done on how many people in prison come from heterosexual couples vs homosexual couples. I would really like to know.
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bnyb
sky-gazer
04:15 PM on 08/17/2010
2010. USA. And we are still discussing this. It makes me mad and it makes me sick.
For all our free world, open-mindedness - we are ultimately a divided puppet show of fake freedoms and inequality.
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cinemaven
Mom, wife, social & political activist, writer...
03:37 PM on 08/17/2010
Kids benefit greatly by having involved, happy parents. I have a few friends who are single moms who have raised amazing kids and I have a few friends who are in unhappy lives and marriages who have raised terrible kids. If you're going to have children, that's the relationship that the parents of those children need to commit everything to... whether you're the natural parents, adoptive parents, divorced parents or single parents.

I'm pretty sure if I were a child given a choice of parents who are gay and happily single or together or parents who are straight and miserable, I'd want the gay parents. All things being mostly equal, I'd want the parents with the best sense of humor (or a pool).
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
05:31 PM on 08/17/2010
Cinemaven, you rock! A sense of humor makes all the difference. My ex and I regained ours after we split up.
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cinemaven
Mom, wife, social & political activist, writer...
10:27 AM on 08/18/2010
Molly, I've read your postcards... very inspirational. (www.postcardsfromapeacefuldivorce.com ... I'd recommend anyone seeing this take a prowl through )

I'm blessed to have been blissfully married for 30 years to my high school sweetheart and our marriage just seems to get better and better as our amazing kids start to fly the coop but we waited for 7 years to add kids to the mix because we knew we'd gotten married very young and we wanted to be sure of our relationship. I would hope that if anything ever happened to our marriage, we also would come together in friendship for our kids.
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SouthJerseySteve
Progressive isn't a dirty word.
02:38 PM on 08/17/2010
Well, who else can the Right Wing scapegoat? They failed with the Birther movement, and the Tea Party is losing it's momentum, so who else is left to "bash".
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Pogo Bock
Not dead.
11:42 PM on 08/17/2010
Read the headlines lately?
03:06 PM on 08/18/2010
Muslims are always a good bet.
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SouthJerseySteve
Progressive isn't a dirty word.
02:34 PM on 08/17/2010
You can't blame divorce for being an issue. If divorce was so evil, Newt, Rush, Vetter, and 1/2 the GOP wouldn't have divorced (at least once).

{end sarcasm}
01:37 PM on 08/17/2010
OK, so I don't believe in gay marriage, and I also think divorces should be harder to get. Adults need to grow up and do what needs to be done to make their marriages work. You made the choice of a spouse. Marriage is job work at it. As for the Bible thumpers, where would society be without a moral compass. Also, is it just the bible thumpers society would like to get rid of or do the Koran thumpers count.
06:00 PM on 08/17/2010
I don't consider religious zealots of any faith to be a "moral compass" for society. Just looking at history, from the Spanish Inquisition to Al-Quaida's terrorist activity, fundamentalists of any religion tend to be the worst offenders against humanity. These fundamentalists often grieviously offend the universal values of human love and respect. If you actually consider "Bible-thumpers" or "Koran-thumpers" to be the "moral compass" for our society, then I say that compass is seriously broken.
06:46 PM on 08/17/2010
I absolutely agree that marriage is a job and takes work, and that it is the right thing to do and completely worthwhile.

So, given I am a man who has been solely with my husband for 17 years, legally married for 6 (we're Canadian), exactly why don't you believe I have the equal right to make it work as any straight couple?
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cyjames1975
06:59 PM on 08/17/2010
Because when a certain percentage of people think about it, they say, "Ewww." You're saying that's not a good reason to deny you civil rights? So demanding...
06:23 PM on 08/18/2010
Strepsi - I am Canadian as well and I find Canadians much more open minded about gay marriage. My question (if you don't mind) is do you find that and also do you think this is a recent mindset among Canucks? In other words is it better now than it used be and do you believe that more people are accepting or just being polite?
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
01:20 PM on 08/17/2010
Jonathan,

I think those divorce statistics need to be examined a little more closely. How did the divorcees handle their kids afterwards? What constitutes a single parent household?

I am divorced but my ex and I have a peaceful and harmonious relationship. We also spend time with the kids as a family. I wrote an article about this that you might find interesting. http://www.postcardsfromapeacefuldivorce.com/579/being-a-family-after-divorce/
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Quasi Libertarian
Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes it gets you
01:19 PM on 08/17/2010
I think this is a good thing. I think the biggest mis-conception that is changing is the Nurture vs Nature issue. Straight people I think are incorrectly fearful that gay couple will raise their kids to be gay turn the wourld into a gay-playland..... I have no idea how many people choose to be gay versus those that are born that way and frankly I feel that I have come to a point where I just don't care. I think being a good citizen, good neighbor, is far more importart. Fortunately the GOP is warming up better to gay issues. As the old farts are retiring and getting voted out, younger more reasonable folks are comming in that just don't care and are pushing the bible-thumpers to the back of the line in the GOP. They have a way to go, but it is happening
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cinemaven
Mom, wife, social & political activist, writer...
03:30 PM on 08/17/2010
And a gay playland would be a bad idea why?
Ignorant straight people may feel that way but the majority of us want our gay friends and family members to have every right that we enjoy.
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Quasi Libertarian
Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes it gets you
07:26 AM on 08/18/2010
Dude, I was taking the side of gays. I was trying to make the point that perceptions are dropping and people are more and more seeing gays as normal, decent Americans.

If you want a gay play land, then go for it. Whatever floats you boat. I am not gay, but if you build a gay playland that is kid friendly, safe and fun I'll take my kids. It probably be safer than Chuckie-Cheeses....
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Sociologyst
12:26 PM on 08/17/2010
I always find it weird when people say gay parents will destroy families, children, etc. As a person who is in a loving, happy gay relationship, I know that one day my partner and I will have a boring NORMAL family life, with 2.5 kids, and, of course, our cats. In fact, sometimes I think a lot of straight couples live werider than I do, and somehow, I'm considered deviant.

Although this movie has it's flaws, I'm glad the movie industry is FINALLY showing movies that portray gay couples as normal and boring... because that's what we are. Happily living boring, normal lives like most Americans.
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Kendall Hawley
Great stories, told well. www.blogfreako.com
12:13 PM on 08/17/2010
My parents split when I was in fourth grade and my mom realized she was a lesbian. I would love for one of these guys pretending gay marriage is harmful for children to tell me how my sister, brother and I should have turned out. We are happy. We love each other. We have healthy relationships. We are smart and talented and going after what we want. We definitely have some issues, but so does everyone else and it really makes me angry when gay marriage opponents push the idea that sexual orientation is some big factor in raising children. Itʻs not. I look around me and see people accepting this complete, utter nonsense and feel like I am living in a crazy house.

My parents were not perfect, but they did the best with what they had. Through everything, no matter what came along, I had parents that I knew loved and supported me. It didnʻt matter if they were together or separate, or whether or not my mom was working the night shift, or I was seeing one of them every other weekend. There is absolutely no such thing as an ideal family, unless youʻre referring to one in which a child is loved and encouraged and taught to believe they can do anything they want, and then instilled with the willingness to do the hard work it takes to get there. That transcends the number of parents in the house, and most certainly their sexual orientation.
12:08 PM on 08/17/2010
I think as usual that most Americans are way ahead of the politicians and right wing conservatives in this country. Hopefully, they'll catch up and quite demonizing happy couples and go after the sickos like David Vitter, Newt Gingrich etc. who cheat on their wives.
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Jdaddy1951
10:39 AM on 08/17/2010
I am gay and have seven adult children, biological, fostered and adopted. I forget which are which most days.

I'm a consistent link in their lives --- they all have abandonment issues related to problems in their biological parents lives, caused by issues such as rejection, being put at risk, or the death of parents. They all deserved better than me, but I was available at a time when they needed someone. Together, we raised each other to adulthood.

My kids run the gamut of the sexual orientation spectrum --- gay and straight and whatever is in between. They made their own decisions about whether to announce it to me or anyone else. I just sat, listened and learned from them. Some were more confident about their sexual orientations and came out long before I did.

When it comes to relationships, my kids are my only success story. I'm a three time loser otherwise. I maybe didn't do right by the two women and one man I partnered with, but I have always tried to do well by my kids.

My point here is that sexual orientation doesn't have much to do with being a good parent, who is someone willing to commit completely to the job like it's the only opportunity they'll have in life to succeed at something. My kids turned out all right, maybe because of my help and maybe despite it. But none of them ever had reason to doubt that they had a dad who
04:19 AM on 08/17/2010
As this article correctly points out, divorce has a devastating impact on children. Our legal system is centered on the needs of the adult at the expense of their dependents. It needs to change from a concept of "no-fault" divorce to one of "no-harm." If one spouse initiates a divorce where children are present, there should be a presumption that the children would stay with the respondent. They wouldn't necessarily stay with the respondent – if the respondent did something wrong like abuse the children, custody could go to the divorcer – but there would be the presumption that the respondent is innocent of wrongdoing and should retain custody. We like the presumption of innocence in other areas of law, but it still remains elusive in family court.

With this change, spouses would be less likely to initiate divorce when children are involved. Initiating a divorce would mean they could lose custody. Spouses would have more pressure to work out their differences. There would be much less power in the hands of the spouse who wants the easy way out. The freedom to divorce would still be there, but there would be less of a reward for doing so. This change wouldn't impact situations where divorces were truly mutually agreed upon and approached collaboratively, but those situations are the minority.
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inmyhumbleopinion
Vote third party.
12:29 PM on 08/17/2010
So you'd rather have spouses stay in a marriage in which there is tension so thick you can cut it with a knife? I'd like to see the stats on the health of kids in which parents are staying together for their sake, but are clearly miserable doing so. I'm a divorced parent of two, have since re-married and now also have a stepson. My kids are happy because I'M happy. And I never used them as a wedge to wield power over my ex and I've never disparaged him in front of them. (He wasn't a bad person; just a bad partner--something I never would have realized until after marriage and kids.) Result? They are more than fine--they are happy, and healthy.

The real issue behind a damaging divorce is the petulance of the two parents. If they don't act like adults and make the split a nightmare, then the kids are likely to suffer.
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
01:11 PM on 08/17/2010
Well said! I have had a peaceful divorce with my husband and we have a great "family" life in spite of (or maybe because of) it. I think that divorce statistics cited in this article need to be reevaluated to see how the parents handled their divorce.

Check out my article from yesterday on how to maintain your family after divorce. http://www.postcardsfromapeacefuldivorce.com/579/being-a-family-after-divorce/
02:53 PM on 08/17/2010
The ideal is obviously to have a loving marriage where parents get along. Nevertheless, statistics are quite clear. The only time kids are better off after divorce is if the marriage had violence or threats of violence. Having their home ripped apart into two world where neither world feels like home anymore is just not a good thing for kids.

The notion that "My kids are happy because I'M happy," is particularly self-centered. All things being equal that might be true, but all things are never equal. Kids have certain needs that trump YOUR happiness. I can think of lots of examples where doing something for the sake of my happiness would make my son's life worse. Part of being a good parent is putting the needs of our kids above our own selfish desires.

The issue is takes just one petulant parent w wants to split despite the kids solely because that parent knows they will obtain a very favorable custody settlement. It's not surprising that 2/3 of divorces are initiated by women -- more when children are present -- and 90% of the time when the couple is college educated. Family court is a particularly sexist place.

Having a rebuttable presumption that children remain with respondent can help fix all these problems. It's an idea worth discussing.
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Mortifyd
11:53 PM on 08/17/2010
A lot of kids pray their parents will get a divorce to make the home situation better. I was one of them.
12:23 AM on 08/18/2010
A lot seems a bit strong. Most do not. Most (while they are young) pray for their parents to get back together.