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Nets of Being: Alex Grey's Visionary Art

Posted: 08/03/2012 9:20 am

Among the many talented visionary artists of the global spiritual counterculture, one name rises to the top of nearly every list: Alex Grey. He and his wife Allyson (who is also a painter) relentlessly travel the world, headlining large-scale festivals, consciousness parties and packed gallery shows. At their most recent appearance in Sao Paulo, Brazil, they painted before an audience of 25,000. Quite famously, the two of them (together for more than 37 years) are more adamant than Johnny Cash about wearing only black in public and private.

Watkins Review listed Alex as one of the top 20 "Most Spiritually Influential Living People" the last two years running, and the band Tool, "America's #1 cult band," featured Alex's art on their most recent platinum album, winning a grammy for its unusual packaging. Grey's work features a rare alchemy of science and spirituality, where anatomically precise human bodies interweave with profound kaleidoscopic mystical experiences.

In this interview, Grey discusses how he turned from suicidal nihilist to visionary artist, the convergence of psychedelics and Tibetan Buddhism, holding together a marriage involving two artists, live-painting with Beats Antique and the Disco Biscuits, and his unusual spiritual portrait of Obama.

Check out some of Alex Grey's visionary art and read on for the interview...

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  • Great Net of Being

    2002-2007, oil on linen, 180 x 90 in.

  • Prostration

    1994, oil on linen, 58 x 72 in.

  • ONE

    2001, oil on linen, 66 x 44 in.

  • Mystic Eye

  • Vision Crystal

    1997, oil on linen, 16 x 16 in.

  • Seraphic Transport Docking on the Third Eye

    2004, acrylic on wood, 14 x 11 in.

  • Cosmic Christ

    1999-2000, oil on wood with carved wood painted and gilded frame, 50 x 102 in.

  • Gaia

    1989, oil on linen, 96 x 144 in.

  • Zena Lotus

    1991, oil on linen, 24 x 30 in.

  • Holy Family

    2006, acrylic on canvas, 60 x 60 in.

  • Net of Being

    "With contributions by Deepak Chopra, Daniel Pinchbeck, Ken Wilber, and Allyson Grey, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Net-Being-Alex-Grey/dp/159477384X" target="_hplink">this book</a> explores how the visionary experience expressed in Alex Grey's art inspires new insights and visions, revealing the deep influence we have on each other's creative evolution and how we truly are all connected through the Net of Being of shared consciousness."

  • World Prayer Wheel

    Alex Grey painting "World Prayer Wheel," 2012.

When did you start making visionary art?

My art has always been in response to visions. Rather than confine my subject to representations of the outer worlds, I include portrayals of the multi-dimensional imaginal realms that pull us toward consciousness evolution. That is the nature of all sacred art. The arts are the perfect medium for transmissions from inner domains. My entheogenic visionary experiences felt universal so I looked for a way of portraying these directly. My X-ray figures reinforce a sense of human unity and the mystical experiences they undergo hold a sacred mirror to the psyche.

Who are your influences?

Allyson. We've shared a studio for 37 years and never run out of things to discuss. Decisions are made in a community of two. My father was a professional artist all his life who encouraged my path as an artist. Spiritual teachers and artists that have opened the eye of wisdom for the world, and visionary community builders have influenced my work.

You and your wife are known for your long-term creative partnership. What's your collaboration like and do you have any secrets for maintaining a marriage amid the storms of the artistic process?

The secret to our success is constant communication. Allyson is reading these questions, typing and editing the words that you are reading while I am painting. Our consciousness is fused into a "Third Mind." The process of our creation is an interwoven partnership with discussion and negotiation as the glue. A relationship succeeds when obstacles are met with communication and resolution. A relationship flourishes when we take the beloved as our teacher. Shared goals create a transformative interwoven path. Allyson and I chose each other 37 years ago. Then we stopped choosing and continued traveling one road in partnership.

How have entheogenic substances influenced your work?

I was a teenage nihilist on the verge of suicide when I asked a God I did not believe in to show me a sign. Within 24 hours I had taken my first LSD trip, seen the unity and luminosity of all things and met the love of my life, a goddess manifest, Allyson, my constant partner and companion. Journeying together we experienced a vision that further changed our life and work. Dissolving into light, we saw that every being and thing was interconnected, an infinite grid of fountains and drains of love energy. This changed our work in pursuit of depicting the unveiling of reality. Our artwork flourished in service to the divine. The Sacred Mirrors series and the Progress of the Soul series were born of this experience of life energy.

What about your Buddhist practice?

Buddhist practice might have remained outside of my field of vision had it not been for a spiritual opening through entheogens (God-inducing substances). Many who have experienced altered states realize that those visions catalyzed their spiritual growth. A fully engaged imagination is essential to the spiritual practice of the Tibetan Buddhist Vajrayana School whose artistic tradition is in service of consciousness transformation. Liberation Through Seeing is a term ascribed to a class of artifacts in the Tibetan Buddhist tradition, objects that plant a seed of liberation in the mindstream of the viewer. To manifest an object with the power of Liberation Through Seeing is the highest aspiration for a creator of sacred art. An object with that power can be a catalyst for consciousness evolution and, according to Tibetan Buddhist teaching, can affect the karmic future of all sentient beings. The visionary imagination is the source of art and religion.

Is there friction between Buddhism and psychedelic exploration? Buddhist teachers sometimes warn against intoxication.

Classic entheogens like psylocybin, mescaline, LSD, DMT are neither toxic nor physically addictive. But because of their power, some people should avoid these substances. The convergence of psychedelics and Buddhism is the subject of the book "Zig Zag Zen," for which Alan Badiner and I selected teachers and artists who fuse the path of Buddhism and the sacramental use of entheogens. Trungpa called psychedelic experience super-samsara because of the temptation to get caught up in one's own visions. When asked if he thought drugs could catalyze spiritual experiences, the Dalai Lama replied "I hope so." Published scientific findings prove that over 65 percent of spiritually inclined individuals have a spontaneous mystical experience from a single dose of psilocybin. Many glimpse spiritual reality through a psychedelic lens, then seek meditation to ground their insights in daily practices.

Why do you think your work is resonating so much with the current transformational movement? Where do you see the culture headed?

The evolutionary agenda must include a vision of our light body and our higher connections with spiritual reality. The juice in the new cultural movement is the integration of mysticism with social action. Mystic states reveal our unity with all beings and things and transcend conventional time and space. The web of life, love, suffering and death unites all beings. A sympathetic embrace of the nature-field and visions of the beyond within awaken us to our part in the continuum. This realization makes social justice our responsibility -- informed and empowered by personal revelation and humanity's wisdom traditions.

You've worked with a number of famous musicians, from Nirvana to Tool to Thievery Corporation, even doing live-painting during shows. How does your visual work intersect with the audio arts?

It has been an honor to paint on stage and have my art grace the albums and stage sets of renowned musicians. Peak experiences on stage with musical favorites including Shpongle, Tipper, Ott, Beats Antique, Disco Biscuits, STS9, SCI, Ken Jordan. ... In dozens of cities all over the world, the Love Tribe gathers to share wisdom, art, dance, performance and music. Our association with this creative web of light offers an opportunity to serve a great community.

During Obama-fever in the last election, you created a portrait of the president, featuring a glowing, hopeful earth in the center of his third eye. How do you feel about that painting more than three years later?

Obama was the better candidate. It was a historic and important victory. The world embraced the election as a triumph over America's shadow. Some grass roots efforts proved that a difference could be made. The light of truth seems alive today in the Occupy movement, a positive sign that our collective conscience is engaged.

What are you working on now?

At this moment, a team of CoSMonauts occupy our studio photographing the last pieces for my upcoming book, "Net of Being." This is third in a series of large-format monographs published by Inner Traditions, starting with "Sacred Mirrors" in 1990 followed by "Transfigurations" in 2001. "Net of Being" covers the most recent decade of my paintings, sculpture and social sculpture (CoSM), and it's integration into the cultural body.

Since leaving our 12,000 square foot art and spirit center in Manhattan, CoSM, we have been developing temple grounds in the Hudson Valley. Our biggest project ever is creating Entheon to inspire pilgrims with visionary art, the iconic context of a growing community. Creating an enduring sanctuary of visionary art to share is the heart of our work. We encourage all who are inspired by exquisite temples that uplift humanity with their splendor to help us build a new sacred site for our generation.

Do you own any article of clothing that is not black? Just curious.

I wear black as a sign of mourning for the web of life and because of it's resonance with the transcendental void that precedes all creation. At Burning Man, Allyson and I wear apparel printed with my art. (Burning Man 2012, wearing colors at Area 51, Fractal Nation and Palenque Norte.) Otherwise, no, just black.

Jonathan Talat Phillips is the author of 'The Electric Jesus: The Healing Journey of a Contemporary Gnostic' and co-founder of The Evolver Network.

 
 
 

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Among the many talented visionary artists of the global spiritual counterculture, one name rises to the top of nearly every list: Alex Grey. He and his wife Allyson (who is also a painter) relentlessl...
Among the many talented visionary artists of the global spiritual counterculture, one name rises to the top of nearly every list: Alex Grey. He and his wife Allyson (who is also a painter) relentlessl...
 
 
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CuteBiGuy
11:14 PM on 09/06/2012
I recently met Alex and Alysson at Burnin Man last week. I got to see a beautiful mural in progression that they created live at Area51 and to hear them speak for a couple hours next door at fractal nation. They inspireso many other artists to create transcendental art and give glimpses of their visions to folks like me who can't paint or draw anything well. Their words still ring on my head. Alex's voice is so claiming to hear, can't wait until the next time our paths cross again.
01:37 AM on 08/20/2012
Infinite and Eternal Divine Blessings to Alex, Allyson and all involved.
Gratitude, Appreciation, Joy, Love, Wellness, Success, Peace, Light, Ascension, Wealth, Wisdom,
to you always for the beautiful inspiration!

'writeous'
11:08 PM on 08/07/2012
When I first saw some of Alex Grey's paintings, I thought they were hilariously awesome. Exquisitely detailed, fantastically mathematical (with periodic, recursive, and fractal patterns; abstract curved surfaces, helices, force lines), and depicting an overall scene that seemed comically funny -- like Albert Hofmann (the chemist who discovered LSD) holding an LSD molecular model in an extremely psychedelic visual scene, and another painting with a man and a woman lovingly holding a big LSD molecular model.

I have seen many paintings and sculptures, and only some of them had an intrinsic mysteriousness, intriguing structure, true beauty, or emotional glow. I think Alex Grey's paintings are wonderful; and I enjoy studying them for a time, and letting my mind dream of the "reality" they depict. Is it possible to have a psychedelic experience by merely looking at a painting? If anyone is close to that technology, it's Alex Grey!

I believe that the core ideas of Buddhism, and the practice of meditation, and the kind of empathy for all things that comes from a greater perception of our interconnectedness and the vastness of space and time, are ingredients for ideal human beings. My sense is that Alex Grey's philosophy of reality is somewhat fanciful, thus detracting from true clarity and practical insights, but I think he's a lot closer to being at peace with the universe than most people.
03:42 PM on 08/07/2012
Alex & Allyson are simply amazing. They will be headlining a new event called KNOWPHEST. It should be pretty awesome- http://www.knowphest.com Check it out...
12:24 PM on 08/05/2012
I've seen his video COSM: Chapel Of Sacred Mirrors. He's a very gentle, serene person, and I love his artwork. However, I'm anxious about the idea of using entheogens myself. I'm just not mentally aligned properly to accept psychedelic experiences. Therefore I'll continue to meditate and hope that I can meet Mr. Grey along the way.
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frog saves world
macro bio
11:54 AM on 08/07/2012
I used plenty of entheogens in my youth. I meditate today and try to appreciate the moment. Maybe not as flashy, but fulfilling in a different way. I have to say, I value it more, but everyone is different.
05:13 PM on 08/07/2012
Entheogens are just wrong for my temperament. I'm way too nervous.
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methodman
01:22 AM on 08/04/2012
There are also the glacial web of life stuff that explain the sculpting processes for canyons and what not that would be interesting fodder to illustrate up. Different disciplines draw up their own ecological web of lifes differently.
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methodman
01:18 AM on 08/04/2012
This is a great visual for a discussion of dark matter and relativity. You should illustrate high frequency, low density, and other assorted physics and astro geometry riemann surfaces stuff like that and elaborate on the casting process. Part of art is sharing what your influences on a piece are. I really like your art.
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sandalwood
songs of the shamans...
09:56 PM on 08/03/2012
"We are peculiar people. I say this with reference to the fact that whereas almost all other peoples have called their theory of art or expression a “rhetoric” and have thought of art as a kind of knowledge, we have invented an “aesthetic” and think of art as a kind of feeling.

The Greek original of the word “aesthetic” means perception by the senses, especially by feeling. Aesthetic experience is a faculty that we share with animals and vegetables, and is irrational. The “aesthetic soul” is that part of our psychic makeup that “senses” things and reacts to them: in other words, the “sentimental” part of us. To identify our approach to art with the pursuit of these reactions is not to make art “fine” but to apply it only to the life of pleasure and to disconnect it from the active and contemplative lives."

rest @ http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/public/articles/A_Figure_of_Speech_or_a_Figure_of_Thought_Part_1-by_Ananda_Coomaraswamy.aspx
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07:34 PM on 08/03/2012
Saturn comes back around. Lifts you up like a child or
Drags you down like a stone
To consume you till you choose to let this go.

Give away the stone.
Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor.
Give away the stone.
Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold.
Let go.

~ TOOL
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05:49 PM on 08/03/2012
Alex and Allyson used to open their home / studio in Brooklyn for non-denominational Full Moon gatherings. The diversity of people who would show up created such a warm and an almost indescribable atmosphere. Their daughter was almost always there as well.

When I went to the first gathering, I was standing in front of the actual painting that I had a print of in my room. I was admiring it up close...far away...up close...and someone came up to me and said just a very casual "Hello." It was Alex and I was shaking with excitement to meet him. I told him my name was Allison, and he said "that's my wife's name". When I told him that the painting I was looking at (One) was the last thing I saw before I turned out my lights every night, he was genuinely humble and thankful.

While he was painting the "Great Net of Being" (as in, it was not even completed), he had it out for everyone to see.

When COSM (Chapel of Sacred Mirrors) opened in Chelsea, I started going there for the gatherings there. I highly recommend making the trek to the new COSM.

Seeing his paintings up close, noticing the incredible attention to detail, is ASTOUNDING.

Here is a shoutout to my fellow OGT'ers.
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05:34 PM on 08/03/2012
Mystic Eye is beautiful. Thanks for sharing
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Dr Idris
polymathy is not understanding
10:47 PM on 08/06/2012
"unum non numero est, sed fons et origo numerorum"
Macrobius
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DonaldFrazell
12:35 PM on 08/03/2012
This is obvious and self indulgent stuff, must be Agape. Certainly not a Sufi.
All surface, no soul. Art and life are about relationships, this is one dimensional.
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Jonathan Talat Phillips
author of The Electric Jesus, Evolver co-founder
04:07 PM on 08/03/2012
So are Sufis better than Buddhists? I'm not really sure of your argument there. Alex actually has a whole series of paintings about family and relationships. I recommend checking it out. It might change your mind a little.

Best,
Talat
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Dr Idris
polymathy is not understanding
10:49 PM on 08/06/2012
have you seen my comment below? I asked about the very confused and incoherent use of terms-and the case for "one dimensional" is not even
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Dr Idris
polymathy is not understanding
04:15 PM on 08/03/2012
"must be Agape"-please explain-this is an NT word for "communal love". How does this relate to Sufi-a group, or groups with Islamic backgrounds I am not defending the work here, or arguing with you. I understand you think it is one dimensional. But more explanation and less uses of terms-I would bet most readers don't even know at least one of them-would help a lot (?)
12:32 PM on 08/03/2012
Alex & Allyson are truely special creative souls that honor the higher evolutionary path that our species should aspire to. The Obama vision was well painted but unfortunately this administration has furthered the "Bu$h Agenda" which is dead set to destroy America from within, NDAA anyone, Drone attacks decided by the whims of a few....otherwise, keep up the great work Jonathan...Namaste!
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ChefWithAKnife
“A pâté is nothing more than French meat loaf
11:19 AM on 08/03/2012
Those are amazing!
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05:50 PM on 08/03/2012
You should see them IRL. MIND BLOWING
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Dr Idris
polymathy is not understanding
10:57 PM on 08/06/2012
question: have you seen Al Held's later work-non-expressionist and mystical?
saw some in a Chelsea gallery several years ago
One had the quality of "following" the viewer from any angle
I haven't been in the city lately-is the new COSM in Chelsea or Upstate?
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Ian McCullough
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10:52 AM on 08/03/2012
Wow, Alex Grey is a fantastic artist. Just ordered a poster of his "Gaia". Good to know there are people out there that have a true reverence for art and for the universe.