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On Chris Wallace's Preposterous Claim That FOX Is No More Biased Than the "Liberal Media"

Posted: 06/23/11 07:36 PM ET

There's been lots of commentary about Chris Wallace's FOX news interview Sunday with Jon Stewart, particularly the back and forth about Stewart's shifting temperament during the interview and the way in which it was edited down for broadcast.

But I wanted to mention two points to highlight Wallace's utterly preposterous claim that FOX is no more one-sided in a conservative direction than CNN, ABC, NBC, the New York Times and the Washington Post are in a liberal direction (and no, MSNBC, despite its evening line-up, is also not comparable, but Wallace argued that all of the major organizations have a clear, partisan liberal agenda).

  1. If FOX is no worse than all of the "liberal" media -- I'd like an answer to the following question: what is the FOX equivalent of the liberal media's coverage of WMD and the run-up to the Iraq war? In 2002-03, virtually all media, including all of the above-named news organizations were essentially in lock-step with the Bush administration's relentless beating of the war drums. The Times did, of course, apologize in 2004 for its profound failures in reporting about WMD, but virtually all of the liberal media disgraced themselves in their faulty coverage of the lead-up to the war. What is the equivalent at FOX -- an enormously important story, with profound and ongoing consequences for the country's future that FOX reported in accord with the preferred liberal spin on that story?

    Of course, it's absurd to even try to think of examples because it's not remotely plausible that FOX would ever report a story of such significance in a way that favored the preferred liberal spin on that issue, let alone when serious skepticism was called for about that framing.

    And that's certainly not the only example, or the most recent one. The Washington Post editors repeatedly write misleading and ill-informed editorials about the dire straits of Social Security in terms highly favorable to conservative frames. CNN repeatedly presents information about the economy and, in particular, about deficits, that does the same. These are far from isolated examples

    (As I have said before, it's become a sick joke to argue that the Post, in particular, qualifies as liberal media).

  2. In trying to play gotcha with Jon Stewart about the liberal bias of the media, Chris Wallace played a clip from last year in which Diane Sawyer introduced the topic of the controversial Arizona stop-and-check-for-papers law in a way that Wallace believed was obviously skewed in a liberal direction. Let's leave aside whether Sawyer's framing of the issue was an example of liberal bias. The more noteworthy fact is that, having obviously had time to prepare diligently for this interview with Stewart, in which the subject of media bias would be front and center, the best that FOX could do was to come up with a year-old clip that would have to be considered tame by the standards of what appears every day on FOX news itself.

    In his mocking comparison the other night of FOX to the New England Patriots -- FOX being a perennial powerhouse in the world of media misinformation -- Stewart listed dozens of key assertions that FOX has trumpeted that are simply false. Death Panels, government takeover of health care, Stalinism, Nazism, climate denial -- the list of stories that FOX gets egregiously and deliberately wrong is endless and, needless to say, they do so in a relentlessly partisan, right-wing direction. One would never have to go back a year to find such blatantly partisan and wrong coverage on FOX. It's what they do every day.

    That the Sawyer clip from 2010 was Wallace's telling piece of evidence was itself a telling statement about the absurdity of his claims of equivalent bias.

  3. Of course, in a sane world, we wouldn't need to have this conversation. That FOX is a relentless propaganda machine ought to be too banal even to have to note. But FOX is also the reductio ad absurdum, in a way, of the mainstream media's own tendency to engage in he-said/she-said journalism, to credulously report both sides of a story even when the facts ought to dictate otherwise. In short, what ought to be news organizations' prime responsibility -- to serve Americans by ensuring that they are well-informed on the issues -- has been supplanted by their practice of overwhelming Americans with frivolity, half-truths and mis-characterizations. In that swamp, the FOX Ness Monster has thrived (sorry, couldn't resist the lame play on words).

     
     
     

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There's been lots of commentary about Chris Wallace's FOX news interview Sunday with Jon Stewart, particularly the back and forth about Stewart's shifting temperament during the interview and the way ...
There's been lots of commentary about Chris Wallace's FOX news interview Sunday with Jon Stewart, particularly the back and forth about Stewart's shifting temperament during the interview and the way ...
 
 
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stagebandman
02:53 AM on 06/28/2011
I live in Chicago. Liberal Democrat town, right? WCPT is one of the weaker radio signals, but it's the ONLY left leaning radio station on the entire dial. And they drastically cut their signal after sundown. Meanwhile, WLS, once a powerhouse of music and great shows is now the home of Limbaugh and the Foxicans 24/7, as is WIND (apt), who carries it to the extreme with the likes of Beck, Savage, Medved, Miller and Hewitt. WGN just went through a harrowing year with the PD trying to make it another right wing depository. Luckily, they've decided to stick with vanilla. Then there's the newspapers. Tribune - conservative, Herald - conservative, Sun-Times - who knows these days? Certainly nobody leading a liberal charge. How about TV. All the news shows are decidedly no-sided when it comes to issues. PBS? If their commentators and hosts reveal anything, it's a conservative bent. Same with WGN - Channel 9. The morning news crew there is very right. So, one of the most "liberal" cities in America can't seem to scrounge together more than a second rate radio station. Boy, that sure is "lame-stream"
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poorotis
04:03 PM on 06/26/2011
Why isn't Huffpo doing an honest journalistic task like covering "Fast And Furious"?
I'd like to read what a 'modrator' has to say on this glaring omission of this most news-worthy event.
Please?
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Tulka2
Solidarity. Courage. Humor.
03:50 PM on 06/26/2011
Whenever an honest person agrees to go on Fox news, it gives credence to Fox News as an honest broker of ideas and facts.  As long as people like John Stewart appear, it just makes them seem real.  Boycott.  I do my small part by not turning it on.  Jon Stewart should do his part by refusing to appear and talk to Chris Wallace as if Wallace were a real news anchor.  He is not.
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ProfessorDuh
09:19 AM on 06/25/2011
Fox News instructed its employees on the propaganda slant of the day in daily memos from former Fox News Senior Vice President John Moody and Fox News Managing Editor Bill Sammon. For example, they were ordered not to turn the 9-11 commission "into Watergate," to create "heat" for John Kerry on his "flip-flop voting record" and to lavish praise on George W. Bush for his "political courage and tactical cunning." Hence the uniformity of the channel’s lies.
A week before the 2008 election, a memo to the news staff collected quotes from Obama’s autobiography, Dreams of My Father, that Sammon claimed contained “references to socialism, liberalism, Marxism and Marxists,” along with “a couple of his many self-described ‘racial obsessions.'" They were to be used as fodder for "fair and balanced" Fox News attacks on the Democratic candidate for president.
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stevestrange
Wild like rock stars...Who smash guitars.
01:52 AM on 06/25/2011
My biggest grievance with FOX, is the lack of transparency. You want a conservative network? Fine. There's all kinds of niche channels on cable and satellite television. But be up front. Don't try to fool the masses that conservative ideology is the basis of truth and facts.
11:05 PM on 06/24/2011
I certainly do agree that FOX is the only news to watch if you want to hear the truth and not some biased brain washing the other networks throw at us like people don't know any better. So your complaint about them, is just an opinion and nothing more. If you want half truths just watch the local networks they tell you only what they want you to hear and believe. No thank you. I will stay watching FOX.
Dad of Marine
Army Vet and Latino Progressive - and proud of it
12:56 AM on 06/25/2011
FAUX is the only one, I agree, if you want blantant lies and misinformation. They have no credibility with anyone with an iq of >= 50.
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bellestarr21445
Too soon old...too late wise.
02:15 AM on 06/25/2011
You definitely should continue to watch faux noise. After all, they went to court to have their right to lie to the American people upheld. They won that fight in 2002 and have continued to lie since. It is your right as an American to be fed all the lies you can handle and no one should keep you from that. BTW, why aren't you posting over at the Daily Caller, or Red State or The Blaze? They would seem to be more like the kind of people you would want to associate with.
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Paperless Tiger
10:53 PM on 06/24/2011
Fox News just stands out from the crowd because their propaganda is so sophomoric.
10:49 AM on 06/25/2011
And the rest of the media crowd's propaganda is just so sophisticated...
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
10:11 PM on 06/24/2011
I wish the mainstream media was HALF as liberal as Fox claims it is.
10:50 AM on 06/25/2011
From where you stand, everyone is on the right
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
11:47 AM on 06/25/2011
Pot, meet kettle.
10:08 PM on 06/24/2011
There are a few liberal commentary shows, countdown, Maddow, etc., but the idea that any network matches Fox's blatant right wing bias on THE NEWS, is ludicrous. Editorial position is one thing, Fox News is the Republican equivalent to Pravda.
06:05 PM on 06/24/2011
This is ridiculous. They are just as biased. It's funny how the author left out how the hollywood and network left freaked out over the Patriot Act, Iraq war, Guantanamo and Rendition under Bush, but hey the Obama administration can do what ever it wants and the media would rather bury it then expose it. George Worthless Bush deserved the criticism he received, but the press and it's present ignorance makes me sick.
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Leighton Brady
Stupid is as stupid does
03:43 PM on 06/25/2011
The "network left"? Who specifically are you talking about? If you're saying that about the "mainstream" media then I think you have a low threshold of what you consider to be a freak out and we should come up with a new term for way Fox has responded to just about everything Obama has down. Hollywood is not the media, just because many of the one's that do speak on politics happen to be liberal doesn't it make it accurate to act as if they and 'other' news networks are one in the same and "freak out" on the same level about what they consider to be right leaning policies. Certainly I would imagine those on the left would be more gentle in their criticism of Obama that of a republican, but I've seen plenty of criticism in the 'true' left media(people such as Maddow) of Obama's performance on the things you listed as well as others(DOMA, etc.)
05:57 PM on 06/24/2011
I agree with the author's comment about the mainstream media, which he says overwhelms Americans with frivolity, half-truths and mis-characterizations. This is not left wing journalism, as Fox claims, it is just bad journalism that doesn't get at the bottom of complex issues or anywhere near the truth. So Fox uses the myth of the liberal media to justify not only its extreme bias but it nonchalance when it comes to important facts (like death panels and the cost of Obama's travel). As Jon Stewart pointed out, Fox viewers are generally the most misinformed people in the country.
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Pooter1
05:06 PM on 06/24/2011
Anyone that limits their news source to (1) US news outlets and (2) only to one source, whether it be FoxNews, MSNBC, CNN, etc, is just a choir member that wants to be preached too. Limiting oneself to just a single source also lends itself to 'group-think' that is nothing more than an echo chamber.

All the above have one concern.....ratings. To get ratings, you have to 'target' an audience. To get and keep and keep this 'targeted' audience, you have to give them what they want.. which is not being told that their opinions and beliefs are stupid. So you provide a line-up that they will make them happy so that they return night after night. Again, it becomes a group-think situation.

I strongly suggest that you check out news from international sources. You will be shocked and angered as what the US MSM (including FoxNews) does report.
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Christopher Wyskowski
09:58 PM on 06/24/2011
one mistake there bro, in your last line, it should read :"nly Fox news", as they are the group with no interest in fact.
04:49 PM on 06/24/2011
Gosh, Chris whatever, I'm so sorry nobody is as flawless as you in every regard, perfect in every way, never misspeaks ever under any circumstances, possessed of a magnificent intelligence, able to rebut any comment with a certainty of correctness that it is fruitless for mere mortals to even attempt reasoning with you.

I feel like May West in "My little Chickadee" where in court the judge asks her, "Young lady, are you trying to show contempt for this court?" (perhaps paraphrased slightly as I cannot aspire to your level of perfection) and she replied in her usual tone, stating, "No, sir, your honor - I'm doing my very best to conceal it."

So feel free to gaze down upon us mortals from your lofty towering perch of intellectual and moral superiority but remember you do have a single glaring flaw: you think you can change my opinion, that I even give a hoot about you or you comments, and that I will continue to respond to your perfect nonsense. Go away, kid, you bother me, and will receive no response from me ever again as I care not for trolls with attitudes such as yours, chriswhatever. Oh, 1962. I'm new here, you've posted over 10,000 comments and have not a single friend. Put your giant brain to puzzling that out; it's not so hard to figure out why.
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AdamWest1313
Hardcore Agnostic
04:00 AM on 06/25/2011
....Go away? You came to his article and posted, and you say that he bothers you?
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Leanne Serrato
Leanneleannadana
09:26 AM on 06/26/2011
Who the heck is Chris? When a person decides that nothing can "change" their opinion I think that is all you need to say. Ever heard of LIFE-LONG LEARNING?
12:25 PM on 06/26/2011
S-i-g-h. Please read a comment before getting all shocked or offended or whatever you were when you made this comment. I am going to assume you simply misread my comment that chris whatever was not going to change my opinion. Never did I say that my opinion was immutable.

It is, as a mental exercise, interesting to note that people may argue facts forever as in, "The moon is 225,000 miles from earth…" to which a person might respond, " Not at this time of year and furthermore are you talking about the distance at apogee or perigee?" Alternatively, if I offer my opinion that, "The moon is beautiful tonight…" you may argue until you're blue in the face, you will never change that opinion, and it is fruitless for you to try.

Golly gee, some of the commenters here at the Huffington Post sure are sensitive when there is no need to be. I'm sorry if I offended your delicate sensibilities. That was certainly not my intent.
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wespenn56
Conservative does start with "CON"
04:20 PM on 06/24/2011
One of the favorite claims of the Fox viewers is that the polls stating they're misinformed are liberal plots. Please prove the "bias" or "sponsorship": http://www.mediaite.com/tv/study-fox-news-viewers-most-misinformed-of-all-news-consumers/ - University of Maryland, http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/12/16/1615218/Survey-Shows-That-Fox-News-Makes-You-Less-Informed - World Public Opinion, http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20060525_daily_show_oreilly/ - Truth Dig. Of course, there are many more...this is good enough to start with. ONCE IS AN ACCIDENT. TWICE, A COINCIDENCE. THREE TIMES, A TREND.
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Gray Mouser
Former Republican
02:21 PM on 06/24/2011
I keep hearing this mantra from the Right, Palin, Fox, et al about this so-called liberal media as if it is everywhere and they dominate. Where are they? Please name them. I would like to analyse and make up my own mind.

I don't see it in my local TV, Radio, or Newspapers. I don't hear it on national radio relative to how much I do hear Right wing hate radio. I don't see it in my Cable lineup or on broadcast TV.

Where is it, exactly, and who are they, exactly?
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Ebay Seller Len
03:52 PM on 06/24/2011
The right has been saying this for so long, that it is simply part of their consciousness. I remember in grad school in '93, an individual chose to do his thesis on the liberal bias. He was a big Limbaugh fan.....
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LesleyAnne
05:02 PM on 06/24/2011
I'm with you. I have stopped watching CNN on Sunday mornings because it's like watching cartoons, except for Fareed Zakaria who still manages to recruit top talkers on a variety of subjects. Do colleges no longer teach journalism? Where are the Walter Cronkites, the Murrows, the Peter Jenningses.