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José Ramos-Horta

José Ramos-Horta

Posted: July 8, 2010 09:35 AM

Cross-posted from TheCommunity.com


Update: Reports have emerged that Sakineh Mohammadie Ashtiani has been granted a reprieve from death by stoning, but still faces the death penalty for adultery.

I am aware, as I am writing this, that I come from a country far from Iran, and a religious and political culture that are different in many ways. But there are elements that tie all religions together. Compassion and love are two of those elements.

Any person who has studied the words of God or felt Allah's blessings has been privileged to know His mercy and forgiveness. So how could it be that He would approve of our treating our fellow men and women -- our brothers and sisters in his family -- with anything less?

Sakineh Mohammadie Ashtiani and her children are His creations as surely as you and I are.

We do not always do well at interpreting the will of our God in this world. My Church, the Catholic Church, does not stand above reproach in this. We will always have the stain of the Spanish Inquisition and the torture of innocents assumed to be heretics in our history. Today the Church is dealing with shortfalls in its treatment of those who have abused children, God's precious young ones.

But we must remember that these acts are the acts of Man, not acts of God. As individuals, and citizens of this planet, can only say that we will continually strive to do better, and to better reflect God's wisdom and mercy in our lives and in the communities and civilizations we build.

As we strive to do this, we must at times recognize that barbarities that were a part of past cultures in our religious history no longer have a place in our lives. In the case of stoning, its roots are not in the Quran but are in the Torah, believed to have been written in 500 BC -- a world that has little in common with our world today.

It is time to leave stoning as a form of capital punishment behind us as a race, to relegate it to the same place we have put stringing heretics on racks -- in a chapter of our past that we are not proud of.

The case of Sakineh Mohammadie Ashtiani -- a terrified woman who does not even speak the language of her accusers -- is an opportunity for us to show God's wisdom and mercy to another.

I do not pretend to be a religious scholar and I do not pretend to be able to comment on the legal proceedings or details of her case. It is as a fellow human being that I appeal to those who are the Supreme Leaders of Islamic Justice, the interpreters of the will of Allah on Earth, to show His compassion and love, if not to the mother than at least to the two young children whose lives will be destroyed by this event, to touch their heads with the understanding that Allah would not want his innocent young children to be exposed to such extreme suffering at the hands of Man.

We can do better than this.

 
Cross-posted from TheCommunity.com Update: Reports have emerged that Sakineh Mohammadie Ashtiani has been granted a reprieve from death by stoning, but still faces the death penalty for adultery. ...
Cross-posted from TheCommunity.com Update: Reports have emerged that Sakineh Mohammadie Ashtiani has been granted a reprieve from death by stoning, but still faces the death penalty for adultery. ...
 
 
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04:37 PM on 07/12/2010
Sometimes the facts of some issues are completely forgotten, perception are made into reality. This lady was convicted of gruesome murder of her husband (as a mastermind and participant with her boyfriend) in addition to adultery. Her punishment for adultery was carried out in 2006, the conviction for murder was upheld after years of appeal by her own lawyer. There is no doubt she killed her husband and there was no language barrier, as her native tongue is Azeri (she also speaks persian well) and was tried in Tabriz under Azeri speaking judges. The gruesome nature of the killing of her husband (crushing him to death) prompted some official saying she should be stoned to death as that is how she killed her husband, but it had no bearing in the case, and apparently was never in the cards. Stoning were carried out in a few instances in some villages, never in a major city, in Iran in the past. Iranian government has tried to stop them, and has abolished them since 2002. Lets spend time focusing on some real injustices rather than a make believe one.
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08:40 PM on 07/12/2010
Darn it! Its not about her husband. Its not about punishing his killer, dont you see?
03:15 AM on 07/13/2010
The nice people who run IRI, not the hicks in the sticks, are responsible for the lack of a moratorium on stoning. It certainly wasn't abolished in 2002 as people have been tortured to death by stoning since.
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parsi
Once you label me you negate me--Søren Kierkegaar
04:58 AM on 07/11/2010
Interrupted Lives
Stories of repression against students

Interrupted Lives, is a short documentary created by the Abdorrahman Boroumand Foundation (ABF) to illuminate stories of the repression and interruption of the lives of students under the government of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The documentary examines documented human rights case histories of students imprisoned, tortured or executed for voicing religious or political dissent since the 1979 revolution. The film will be shown at the Interrupted Lives traveling exhibit... For more information contact ABF at: omid@abfiran.org

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRsb7ffHsdo&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgANsptj3m0&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb9BA_huJWM&feature=player_embedded

Cyber memorial for victims of IRI sine 1979
http://www.iranrights.org/english/memorial.php
http://www.iranrights.org/
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parsi
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04:43 AM on 07/11/2010
Request to UN Credentials Committee to reject islamic republic representatives Dear friends, The collection of signatures to discredit IRI's UN representative has just been initiated. We have until the September 2010 general assembly session to collect as many signatures as humanly possible. This was done to Apartheid South Africa for 5 years as they were brought down. Please sign the petition and distribute as widely as possible by all means and networks:
English http://www.PetitionOnline.com/IUCR1/petition.html

Farsi http://www.PetitionOnline.com/IUC2/petition.html





Akbar Mohammadi Born 1972
Iran Died July 30, 2006
Tehran, Iran Known for Imprisonment after July 1999 Iranian Student Protests and died at Evin prison due to hunger strike.

Note from the Amnesty International on Akbar Mohammadi's unjust murder: http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?lang=e&id=ENGMDE130862006

The repression you see in Iran right now; women's dress code, stoning, men's hair-dos are desperate acts of a dying/failed regime who is lashing out against her own people to claim that they are in-charge.

Let's help IRI realize their eventuality and see them out of Iran.
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Linda from Pahrump
Moderation in ALL things
01:00 PM on 07/12/2010
My one point of contention in you blog is that you name the Iranian regime by a female gender. This is hands-down a male-oriented government. As a women, I feel that it should be given the male gender until such time that women arem given equal rights with men uner the law.
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capt ayhab
No War on IRAN
12:23 PM on 07/10/2010
Beautifully written piece Mr. Ramos-Horta, beautiful indeed.

As a Muslim you have my unconditional support and admiration on this issue. Myself and my Iranian compatriots are appalled by the decision to reopen her case after already having been exonerated from the charges of killing her husband.

Our prayers are for Sakineh and her two young children, along with every single human being in Iran who are caught in the clutches of authoritarian regime in Iran and else where in the world.

Respectfully
-JT
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Dr Confuso
Australian/American Broadcast veteran...
06:47 AM on 07/10/2010
I'm just a bit sick of all the killing in world being carried out by automatons who feel they are on a mission from Allah!
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Behnaz Tavakoli
07:03 AM on 07/10/2010
That is only inside you brain.

The reality is the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan was wages by Godless MIC and Zionists and most murders has nothing to do with God.
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11:36 AM on 07/10/2010
But you are complacent with all the killing done by your own country in your name.
Oh, but those automatons make you sick.

And certainly Obama and Bush kill with impunity and the labyrinth of bureaucracy and legalese that shield them from accountability.
Over 1 million killed in Iraq. No one's saying how many have been killed in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and elsewhere.
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capt ayhab
No War on IRAN
12:25 PM on 07/10/2010
So fanned and fav'ed
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WashingtonDCsucks
DC... Give them rope & they will try to hang you.
03:03 AM on 07/10/2010
If you do away with stoning you prevent a fantastic educational tool for the rest of the world, a glimpse into the the mind of a neanderthal... a primitive primate in it's native habitat raping and killing it's own.

These stinking savages should be banished from Mankind until they can meet the minimum civilization level.... Give them another 10,000 yrs and they might make it.
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Behnaz Tavakoli
03:32 AM on 07/10/2010
Iran has 3.9 million university students.

You will be amused of the level of sophistication in their universities and research centers. The world is not that simple as its reflection inside your brain.
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11:20 AM on 07/10/2010
Neanderthal, primitve, primate, savage.

Whatever makes it easier to kill, right?
Over 1 million and counting....
02:02 AM on 07/10/2010
"And what about the guy? It takes two to tango! Or did he get a free pass because he is guy?"

The men would have been aquitted, since she could not produce four male witnesses who have seen the penetration. She is guilty because she has confessed to adultery. Victim becomes the accused; it is plain barbarism.
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11:32 AM on 07/10/2010
She has not confessed.
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01:16 AM on 07/10/2010
Iran please show compassion and allow the world community to know that Sakineh Mohammadie Ashtiani is allowed to live.
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SearingTruth
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11:56 PM on 07/09/2010
"We expect monsters to torture and murder, for that is their nature.

We expect human beings to be just and humane, for that is our nature."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave
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samhaydenjr
11:43 PM on 07/09/2010
There's a scene in The Shawshank Redemption where Tim Robbins' character, after writing a letter a week to his local state senator for months lobbying for materials for a prison library, finally receives some boxes of second-hand books and records. When a prison officer asks him "what will you do now" he answers "I think I'll write two letters a week". We are at a similar point. The Iranian regime seems to have been shaken by the global response to the fate of Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani and have felt the need to claim that there will be no stoning or that there was never going to be a stoning and that stonings are very rare etc. But they haven't said that Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani will not be executed.

So again, as I have urged in previous comments (although, sadly, many have chosen to ignore me), if you actually care about human rights, please set aside your squabbles and self-serving opinions for this issue and quite simply go and sign the petition (if you wish to do more, I encourage you to do so) at http://freesakineh.org/
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Venicelady
Ignorance is NOT bliss.
02:49 PM on 08/26/2010
Signed the petition- thanks for providing the link.

As you said, it is time that these human rights violations be brought to the attention of the free world, and that leaders and citizens of the free world speak together to condemn and end these barbaric actions.
11:23 PM on 07/09/2010
This sentence does harm to Iran. It makes the country look like a barbaric republic trapped in the middle ages.
It is also profoundly cruel and wrong to punish this young woman with death or any harsh sentence.
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bigmacha
Truth through research.
05:10 PM on 07/11/2010
It is. They are.
11:18 PM on 07/09/2010
Das "Either way, Islam is like any other religion, it's information The "Koran" can be used just like the Kluck Klucks use the Bible to justify their hatred"

Plain rubbish. Name one muslim country in the world that treats its minorities with equity and fairness. Name one non muslim country in the world in which muslims live as minority peacefully and productively without creating problems. Read this:

As he famously observed, "Wherever one looks along the perimeter of Islam, Muslims have problems living peaceably with their neighbors. The question naturally rises as to whether this pattern of the late 20th century conflict between Muslim and non-Muslim groups is equally true of relations between groups from other civilizations. In fact, it is not. Muslims make up 1/5 of the world's population but in the 1990s they have been far more involved in intergroup violence than the people of any other civilization....Islam's borders are bloody, and so are its innards" (The Clash of Civilisations. p. 256. Samuel Huttington)

Usama: Islam is the only religion that sanctions muslims to rape other women. Read the verse: "The captive from war that your right hand possessed" (Sura 4:3) Sheikh Al Hilali in Australia supported the rape of Ausie women and remarked that uncovered women who go around unescorted are like uncovered meat and cats can come an eat; in short they invite rape. Islam is not like any othert religion; it is evil.
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WashingtonDCsucks
DC... Give them rope & they will try to hang you.
03:13 AM on 07/10/2010
Barbaric savages don't understand normal communication, unless you treat them with exactly the same disrespect and disdain you are wasting your time.

They have the mental age of a 12yr old. All emotion and no logic what so ever.
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capt ayhab
No War on IRAN
12:43 PM on 07/10/2010
4:3 is about fair treatment of orphans and not about the lies you post.
[And if you fear that you cannot act equitably towards orphans, then marry such women as seem good to you, ,,,,,,,,,, ]
01:00 AM on 07/11/2010
I note that you do not deny the existence of the verse nor its import nor the directioons of Australian imam. Very civilised!!!
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Behnaz Tavakoli
06:24 PM on 07/09/2010
The issue is resolved.

As a matter of fact Iran denies that she war ever threatened to be stoned.

Also new laws in Iran's Parliament to remove stoning from penalty code.

Just remember that all these propaganda against Iran is just for making an excuse to invade Iran, remember Iraq 2003, of course not, short memory huh?
07:15 PM on 07/09/2010
The issue isn't resolved. She can still be put to death at any moment. Would you care to be judged and convicted the way she has?

I don't see this as propaganda against Iran. It's a specific case that highlights unjust legal treatment of women, but does not assume an immediate threat to another nation. Iran's nuclear policies are more likely to be a reason for attack. Currently, I don't believe an attack is imminent; what nation can afford another war? Maybe Canada.

Come on. Iranians are human like everyone else on the planet. They're not going to be any more perfect than anyone else. Of course they're going to get criticized for something barbaric like this; it does not reflect the better nature of the nation, but the worst of it. Sometimes your critics are your best friends; who else will tell you that you're walking around with toilet paper stuck to your shoe?

Does Iran really need to treat women like this? I don't think so. Will it suffer any shame or loss if it treats women with more respect and legal parity? Of course not. So why not make these changes?
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07:19 PM on 07/09/2010
Visceral bigotry drives towards projecting hatred, the desire for blood, and the thirst for destruction against the 'dark enemy'. Moralizing war, moralizing destruction is endemic in American culture so that all facets of the political spectrum have succumbed to the same primal drumbeat for warmongering and drawing blood of 'the dark enemy.'

It is NOW the nature of America today.
07:55 PM on 07/09/2010
Usama, come on. You're committing the same offense that you're blaming all of America for. If you don't like it, why do it?
11:19 PM on 07/09/2010
Better go back to Saudi Arabia.
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Linda from Pahrump
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05:30 PM on 07/09/2010
Quite frankly, it doesn't surprise me. In a culture that values women less than men, ALL infringements of the law commited by women, are punished with great brutality, if only to reinforce the "power" that men wish to continue to weald over women. There was no mention in the article about her male counterpart, and what punishment, if any, that he got.

If you marginalize a segment of your population for centuries, then it becomes very easy to commit barbarous acts against them.
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07:02 PM on 07/09/2010
Blanket statements made in ignorance lack true wisdom.
07:28 PM on 07/09/2010
Do you deny that the testimony of women in Iran carry less weight than that of men?
Do you deny that she may not have been able to adequately defend herself even under Iranian law, as she speaks only Turkish, and her trials were conducted in Farsi?
Do you deny that she was acquitted in all her trials, only to be convicted by a judge who acted on his own personal opinion, even though there was no evidence to indicate her guilt?

I recall someone else from Tabriz who was also murdered. Remember Shams?
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temenos
castigat ridendo mores
12:56 AM on 07/10/2010
"Blanket statements made in ignorance lack true wisdom" sounds like something you found in a fortune cookie.
As you seem to consider Iran so just and misunderstood, perhaps you would care to comment on the brutal torture and murder of Iranian-Canadian photojournalist Zahra Kazemi by Iranian authorities.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/kazemi/
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Linda from Pahrump
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05:21 PM on 07/09/2010
And what about the guy? It takes two to tango! Or did he get a free pass because he is guy?
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Weirdwriter
10:10 PM on 07/09/2010
Yeah, that one puzzles me, as I believe the Koran holds both parties to be guilty in the act.