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Joseph A. Palermo

Joseph A. Palermo

Posted: January 17, 2008 03:38 PM

Thank You Jon Stewart


Thank you Jon Stewart and The Daily Show for trying to set the record straight while facing an unalloyed hypocrite and fabricator like Jonah Goldberg. I had never heard of this fellow or his "book" but as soon as I heard the gushing torrent of disjointed gibberish posing as "history" pour out of his mouth I thought to myself: "This must be Lucianne Goldberg's kid." Sure enough, a quick Google search and my suspicion was confirmed. Only from the loins of a reactionary thug could such acidic progeny spring.

Although Stewart's interview segment was heavily edited for obvious reasons, it was made clear quite quickly that Mr. Goldberg's professors at Goucher College had done a piss poor job giving him even the most basic understanding of American history or politics.

I'm sure on the right-wing talk radio circuit and on Fox News Goldberg is a star -- but let's get real. Anyone who tried to write a "serious" scholarly work that made these kinds of insane and unsupportable claims about the ideological pedigree of fascism would be laughed out of the academy faster than you could say "Linda Tripp."

I think the interview was more horrifying than "entertaining." This bitter, privileged young man knows exactly what he's doing. The producers at The Daily Show should have thought twice before giving him a forum. But at least Mr. Stewart was willing to challenge Goldberg on mainstream television about his preposterous contentions.

Historians toil in archives and send out manuscripts to peers for review. We work hard to try to keep the record straight. We're lucky if any of our books cross over into the trade market at all and our cash-strapped University Press publishers spend next to nothing on promotion and more often than not run off only a few thousand copies. And then we're subjected to the likes of Goldberg's blathering diatribe against straw-man "liberals" pretending to be a book?

I had assumed that Regnery Publishers produced Goldberg's monstrosity, Richard Mellon Scaife's outfit that brought us "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" and Michell Malkin's ranting about how wonderful it was to intern Japanese Americans during World War Two. But I was saddened to see that a reputable publishing house produced Goldberg's "Cleveland Steamer."

I don't usually go in for book burning, being a good "liberal" and all. But with Goldberg's book I'll make an exception. (Call me a "liberal fascist.")

 
 
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Joseph A. Palermo
Author/Historian
09:32 AM on 01/22/2008
I was gratified to see that the Jon Stewart and The Daily Show linked this post to their home page where it received some interesting comments -- it is a sad commentary on the current state of our corporate-dominated media that we must turn to comedians and jesters for any exposure of hypocrisy and lies -- CNN, MSNBC (save for Olbermann), NBC, CBS, ABC are all useless, and Fox is a propaganda mouthpiece for everything Republican and right wing.
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JTyroler
knows that there is no GOP savior for 2012
12:59 PM on 01/21/2008
Part of Goldberg's arguement about fascism coming out of liberal/progressive/leftist politics is largely due to everyone's favorite Soviet Dictator - Joseph Stalin. Stalin argued for Socialism in one state or nation - that the whole world didn't need to become a Socialist utopia - it could be done in one nation. Hitler's idea of National Socialism came from, at least in part, from Stalin. This included elimination of any and all opposition, replacing religion with Nationalist identities, and killing off a substantial amount of their nations' population.

Goldberg, whom I rank with Michelle Malkin, as one of the worst people with book deals in this nation. It's the let's make some claims to fit our view of the world and let someone else find our mistakes kind of journalism (I actually started feeling ill when typing journalism).
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castlerider
"A man's home is his castle"
03:08 PM on 01/20/2008
Thank you, Mr. Palermo- for giving us this opportunity to support the channel of reason and common sense intelligence to put another spouting IDIOT in their place.
It's idiots like this that have done so much damage to our country now as it is, with no one to shut them up, correct them, or even let the masses see them for the fools they are. El Rushbo is a prime example. This idiot has influenced millions at the very detriment of our nation and its rights, and now as well as its economy...
The rich elite don't want people to be educated and smart. They want to keep them stupid and easy to control. Misinformed and vitriolic so they can get them stirred up to manipulate the airwaves and masses. Very much of this is subliminal; so much so, that we cannot see this great transfer of wealth from the middle class to the rich that is happening right now, right before our eyes.

Thanks again for a great post. Please keep it coming.
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Joseph A. Palermo
Author/Historian
02:29 PM on 01/18/2008
Lucianne Goldberg and Linda Tripp -- just do a search, you won't believe what you'll find.
01:15 PM on 01/18/2008
I just watched the interview. Goldberg is either exceedingly misinformed or the worst lier out there. I mean fascism a product of the left wing?
His book would have made much more sense if he had tried to compare modern "progressivism" with communistic ideals. The argument would have just been laughable instead of infuriating.

By the way thedailyshow.com has a link to this article.
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leftbehind2000
Occupy Your LIFE.
01:10 AM on 01/18/2008
Lucifer's son.... as long as I've suffered this clown, I didn't realize the relationship until now. Thanks for the heads up.

Goldberg is a fucking fool.

And yet he has a regular forum not only in the nation's largest newspaper - his column is picked up in other rags throughout the country (sadly, our own KC Star regularly wastes space on Goldberg editorials).

Thousands upon thousands of Goldberg thoughts committed to paper for posterity. Like a permanent stain that we'll never get out, no matter how many rinse and soaks we do.

Imagine what historians will think of us when they read this stuff. Will they think it represents pervading thought?
10:11 PM on 01/17/2008
They're abusing the term 'fascist'. It's stupid, it's baloney, but if they keep repeating it like a mantra maybe it'll stick. Robert Kennedy put it well, quoting Mussolini:"fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."

There are surely many quotes from genuine nazis one could cite that would eliminate any confusion.

see Kennedy: Fascist America
by Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0122-10.htm
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Joseph A. Palermo
Author/Historian
05:12 PM on 01/17/2008
Viewers of The Daily Show should pick up Noami Wolf's book "The End of America." It's interesting that Goldberg seeks to flip the political context in which we live against "liberals" as if they are the ones responsible for torture, dismissal of habeas corpus, NSA surveillance, control of women's reproductive rights, "faith based" initiatives where right-wing "Christianity" is shoved down our throats, illegally invading sovereign nations (just like Mussolini did in Ethiopia and Hitler did in Poland), etc. Goldie flips it around and accuses "liberals" of being the "fascists."
05:11 PM on 01/17/2008
You are sooooo right about this jerk Goldberg; I too saw the 'interview' and am so grateful that this country has Stewart and Colbert. At least once in a great while we get some truthiness...Wouldn't you LOVE to see Stewart/Colbert interview potus????
04:45 PM on 01/17/2008
I watched the interview last night as well and Mr. Goldberg's book is flat-out wrong. He is conflating "facism" with the new age idea of interconnectedness. He kept repeating that "liberals try to tell us 'we're all in this togehter'" which he used as his main justification to prove facism came from the left. While it's true facism is a subversion of the self to the state, this is not what is meant by "we're all in this together." The sentiment is meant to reflect that every sentient being on the planet is connected and there is only 1 world for us to inhabit. This tends to be the liberal ideology behind social programs like welfare and environmental standards, which Mr. Goldberg apparently thinks are bad. The notion of interconnectedness and caring for fellow beings as our own brothers/sisters is on the complete opposite ideological spectrum from facism.
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raptor
04:44 PM on 01/17/2008
I don't intend to buy or read the book. I don't feel any compelling need to read The Flat Earther's Journal or The Creative Intelligence Watchword either. I did watch Goldberg on the Jon Stewart show; that's enough for me. He's a disciple of Ben Wattenberg's, isn't he?. I watched Ben's mini-series and his take on socialism. I recommend you do too, just to see how these people think.
I worked for a guy, a Libertarian attorney. "My friends and I" (you know who) "call Liberals 'the New Fascists'". A quick quiz by me on what he knew about fascism stopped that talk. Counseling by a member of the city council stopped his talk about me as "the only communist in the city". Those people.
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lgillooly
04:18 PM on 01/17/2008
The man did not even look up the meaning of Fascism...very sad. Our Country today is closer to a Fascist state due to the Neocon agenda.I think the bigger the lie the harder to believe it is a lie.They have that down pat.