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Helping Children Survive Divorce: Talking to Children About Divorce

Posted: 11/14/11 02:11 AM ET

In my first blog in this series I described research which shows that divorce is not inevitably damaging to children. Indeed, ongoing research continues to support the contention that, overall, children from divorced families are not significantly worse off, psychologically, than their peers from intact families. That said, it is also true that children of divorce express feelings of distress and are bothered by bad memories for years after their parents' divorce.

Researchers who surveyed college students whose parents had divorced ten years earlier, as well as a group of non-college same-age children of divorce, found that these young men and women continued to report significant feelings of distress related to the divorce. Most often cited was the relative loss of their relationships with their fathers, along with lingering distress associated with intense and ongoing parental conflict.

Another study of young adults whose parents had divorced found evidence suggestive of why distress may linger. Many of those surveyed stated that they felt a loss of control over their lives as a consequence of the divorce. Less that 20% said that both of their parents had talked to them in advance of the divorce (as opposed to being told only after legal action had been taken), and only 5% reported that they had ever been given an opportunity to ask questions about the divorce. Such lack of communication clearly can create feelings of anxiety and helplessness.

In the study cited above, those few children who reported that they were able to talk to their parents and ask questions about the divorce had less painful memories and more positive attitudes about their parents' divorce. The implication is clear: children are better off when they are not kept in the dark about their parents divorce. That leads us to the logical question: What do children need to know, and how much say should they have? Here are some suggestions:

  • Children need to know it's coming. The title of the recent film It's Complicated says it all. Parents do not need to try to explain all the reasons for their decision to divorce. On the other hand, children should not have to wake up one day and have the news of this decision sprung on them. As awkward as it may be, parents should let children know in advance that they are contemplating divorce. Just how to say this depends in part on how old a child is. Young children may simply be told that Mommy and Daddy may not be living together but that the child will be with one or the other parent at all times.
  • Children need to know how divorce will affect their personal life styles. In addition to being given basic information, they need to be able to ask questions. Will they have to move? Will they have to change schools? Will their schedules change? Who will they be with, and when? And so on.
  • Children need to have their wishes given consideration. Children do have opinions, as well as reasons for their opinions. An eleven-year-old girl who had developed a passion for cheerleading wanted to be able to stay with her mother on those nights when cheerleading practice was held in her school gym. As much as she loved her father, he was moving into an apartment some distance away. In addition, his working hours would have made it much more difficult for her to get to her practices on time. Although this girl's parents worked on a co-parenting plan, they agreed that her schedule should accommodate her wishes at least until cheerleading season was over.

Under which circumstances do you think this girl would be likely to look back, ten years later, on her parents' divorce with less distress and better memories: If her wishes were heard and accommodated, or if she had been forced into some shared parenting arrangement in which she moved from place to place in the midst of her cheerleading activity? Which is the more loving choice for both parents to make?

The past two decades or so have seen many fathers becoming more actively involved in day to day parenting -- what I call the "grunt work" of parenting as opposed to just the fun part of parenting. This change bodes well for meaningful co-parenting and can go a long way toward moderating the feeling of loss of a father-child relationship that once was commonly associated with divorce. At the same time, rigid co-parenting arrangements that do not take a child's opinions into account likely contribute to the feelings of loss of control, helplessness, and anger that linger for many children of divorce for years afterward.

For more information see The Divorced Child: Strengthening Your Family through the First Three Years of Separation.

 
 
 

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In my first blog in this series I described research which shows that divorce is not inevitably damaging to children. Indeed, ongoing research continues to support the contention that, overall, childr...
In my first blog in this series I described research which shows that divorce is not inevitably damaging to children. Indeed, ongoing research continues to support the contention that, overall, childr...
 
 
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mehnar
economist,, spiritualist
01:59 PM on 11/15/2011
Children growing up with his family to catch up, or remain status quo. Not display the various performance and charisma. family who lost their parents or who have left, you've found the opportunity and environment, and charisma can draw more radical career. Many famous scientists and artists were famous at the time mentioned, and still is, the Prophets.
01:05 PM on 11/15/2011
It strikes me that the key to the prior two comments is that the children have some voice regarding their life styles and schedules post-divorce. That was the finding of the study I cited.
09:32 AM on 11/15/2011
Even with the best intentions by divorcing parents, the children will struggle. I like to recommend that children attend the 13-week DivorceCare for Kids (DC4K) workshop. It helps them work through the many feelings and hurts they will encounter. To find a DivorceCare for Kids group near you, search the database at http://www.dc4k.org

Steve Grissom
Founder
DivorceCare

(Note: DC4K is a companion to the adult DivorceCare program, and the two programs are designed to work together in a way that promotes family healing.
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08:25 AM on 11/15/2011
+1 for successful 50/50 shared parenting despite a lengthy, high conflict divorce. Our junior high school son is in a 50/50 custody arrangemen­­­­t and if his near straight A average at a US News and Report Gold 100 high school is a proxy, does not seem to . He alternates over nights on a weekly basis. After school on Mondays and Wednesdays are at the father's house. Tuesday and Thursdays are at the mothers. The after school schedule is largely a reflection of the marital period and an effort to provide some consistenc­­­­y. We've been rather flexible about occasional­­­­ly switching parenting time.
01:16 PM on 11/15/2011
We've done the 50/50 split as well, although we traded off every two days rather than every other. One child hated it - hated having two homes and the switching between and also hated when the scheduled changed in any way. He likes schedled consistency. The other child loved it, the scheduling flexibily and equal time with both parents (until mom started getting whacky - one child cut mom off entirely, the other took a 3 month and then a six month break away from mom to figure out how to deal with mom and not end up cutting mom off). It makes a huge difference if both households can be flexible when things/events come up (cuts down on stress), but it really hinges on how the kids adapt.
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03:02 PM on 11/15/2011
A couple years into our weekly schedule my son asked what moron came up with it. As Bob Newhart used to say, "Uh, that would be me". The lawyers and magistrate all gave us the evil eye when we presented the schedule but since it had been in practice for over a year they were reluctant to change it. I told our son that if he wanted to make a change I'd arrange it. So far he hasn't asked for one.

In contrast to the divorce proceedings, the shared custody arrangement has been a model of cooperation. I lay the blame for the divorce conflict on external sources.
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irishdoc
It's not me..it's you. Really
12:13 AM on 11/15/2011
I think this article touches on one factor in divorce that we consistently don't want to discuss, which is that children feel trapped in the current visitation/co-parenting plan. I realize that people get very offended because they want an active part in their children's lives, but the children also want an active voice in their lives. Parents get caught up in making things exactly fair to the detriment of the children who feel like they become pieces of property to be shuttled back and forth. Children may not always know what is best for them, but it seems pretty reasonable that being a sherpa and schlepping things back and forth every few days does not make childhood a wonderful experience for anyone.
Although it is admirable that fathers are trying to co-parent more, why aren't more people studying what that entails for the normal child of divorce. What is it like when both parents show up at a doctor's visit and can't agree that a problem exists or what the appropriate treatment is. What lessens do they learn from living a nomadic lifestyle, and how does this translate into how they manage adult lives? What percentage of children who are in rigid co-parenting situations opt out of one or both parent's life when they reach 18? In order to do effective research, how do we tease out the effects of divorce versus the effects of various visitation schedules?
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08:52 AM on 11/15/2011
Children may not enjoy shuttling between parents but we already shuttle them to school, soccer practice, piano lessons, play dates, etc. In a retrospective study of college students of divorce fully 93% of those actually in equal time arrangemen­­ts thought it best.

William Fabricius, "Listening to Children of Divorce: New Findings That Diverge From Wallerstei­­n, Lewis, and Blakeslee"­­, Family Relations, Volume 52, Issue 4, pages 385–396, October 2003;
http://onl­­inelibrar­y­.wiley.c­om­/doi/10­.11­11/j.1­741-­3729.­2003.­0038­5.x/ab­str­act
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irishdoc
It's not me..it's you. Really
07:25 PM on 11/15/2011
Fabricius has a pretty significant agenda in his "research" and has been criticized in terms of his methodology on both shared parenting and gun control.
Look, we both know there are fanatics on both sides. I don't want those opinions. I just want to hear from actual children involved.
I agree that co-parenting works in families who chose it as an option and work to make it happen. These are also the people who are least likely to have conflict and most likely to have flexibility in their parenting agreements.
But this is not the majority of situations that the children are in. Most children are in situations in which one parent is court ordered to co parent despite their objections, and changes to the plan require multiple court visits.
if most children are so happy with the plan, then why, when they reach the age of majority, do the reject 50-50 placement? And why are we so afraid to give them a seat at the table when it comes to deciding custody?
06:06 PM on 11/14/2011
If you mean that it isn't realistic to think we can make divorce a happy experience, I agree (though I've heard from more than one person over time that they were grateful their parents split!).
I am an advocate for children, not an advocate of divorce. Since divorce remains a reality for nearly half of our children the next best thing for me to do is to share information about how best to help children emerge from divorce without severe emotional or academic handicaps. Simply including them in the conversation is one of those ways.

Thanks to all who've joined the conversation.
06:00 PM on 11/14/2011
My problem is what to tell the 9 year old what happen when they start asking questions, about why you left. The truth is she wanted out and pushed the divorce through like going to the bathroom. I agreed with all the terms to avoid upsetting the apple cart and forcing my child have to leave his school, friends and home. How do I tell him his mother pretty much prayed on my good nature and threw me out. He loves his mother very much and I'm sure it damage there relationship, Hell I still love her to (for some reason). Now he thinks we both decided to destroy are family because that's what we told him. I would hope if he is asking her the same questions she would at least give me heads up but again I'm the one who moved out of the house.
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Mr Anonymous
Mumpsimus, I am not entertained!
10:44 PM on 11/14/2011
I feel like I'm in the same boat. My kids aren't 9 yet, but I told them that it just didn't work out. I didn't want to crush them and tell them mommy wanted to take off and party, because she felt like she lost her party years.

I hope it gets better for you.
09:35 AM on 11/15/2011
Thanks, I hope it gets better for you as well.
The Holidays are hard for me.
That's what we said, it didn't work out, but now he wants to know what didn't work. I know he doesn't understand.
I try to hide it but sometimes I get a little emotional when I have to drop him home on Sunday nights because I only see him every other weekend and I know I won't see him a another week. I'm getting better though.
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Aerosol
09:26 PM on 11/24/2011
This is whacked out, but I'm trying to use Astrological cycles in order to figure out how to help kids who are traumatized by divorce. Take what I say with a grain of salt but I'm going to experiment on you. But at this age children are struggling with 2 influences. One is the Lilith myth (a 9 year cycle) which strongly affects attitudes with regards to women who feel oppressed by relationships. The other is a sense of confusion about relationships in general which is related to the cycle of the nodes (an 18.9 year cycle).

You can make use of the experience in coaching your son to understand that people like yourself can go through rejection but can come through better and wiser than before. And, also, that his Mother is struggling to overcome the oppression that society puts down women with, and this may not end up well for her, but her struggle is to be admired. And, also, that he is free to develop his own attitudes and feelings which are apart from his parents' relationship. And, also, just let him have a carefree childhood for as long as possible. Hope that helps. Sorry it sounds nuts, but everything the shrinks say is so stupid I may as well chime in.
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mrld20
05:59 PM on 11/14/2011
I prefer the Judgment of Solomon where they split the kids in half... LOL JK JK...
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Aerosol
09:12 PM on 11/24/2011
Well, psychically that's what happens no matter what, so you get what you want. Kids are small and easy to saw apart.
05:31 PM on 11/14/2011
I don't think it's a realistic goal to have your kids not remember the split badly. I think that will only happen if the kids are being abused or the parents are hitting each other.

A more realistic goal would be to help them get through the painful transition.
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Aerosol
09:26 PM on 11/24/2011
It's not a transition period for the kids. It's an entire change of life path.
04:30 PM on 11/14/2011
1) Children need to know its coming: "Mom wants to split up your 1 home into 2 homes and maybe find someone else to replace your Dad,".

2) Know how it will effect you: Your life will completely change: 1 of your 2 homes will be your home with dad whrere it will feel like, and legally be called 'visits', 4 days a month". You are very possibly more likely to think divorce is cool when you grow up, effecting your children the same way, and their children, and so on. You are 2-6 times more likely to have various problems such as depression suffer abuse drug alchohol, suicide thoughts poor conflict resolution skills narcissism your educational opportunities may suffer due to Mom's desire to destroy your 1 biological family, and you will likely, as Mom knows because that's why she filed (needs to find HERSELF) miss out on your loving (only) biological Dad being there most the way, as Mom will not settle on 50/50 because she doesnt 'have to'.

3) Even though you don't generally wish for all this, in whatever happens hereafter, a 'replacement for your (only biological) Dad', finances that effect so much of your life chances, your living every day with out 1 of your parents, as to 'consideration of your wishes"?. Mom says and lives like your wishes don't matter.

Or as another poster alluded, alternately, lets teach 'em young to live in denial and narcissim.
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DrVeronicaEyeMD
06:02 PM on 11/14/2011
There are plenty of dads who force strange women on their kids. My ex did just that and told the sons AFTER he remarried.
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Zalkreb
06:14 PM on 11/14/2011
Plenty compared to what? Your experience was probably painful to you and upsetting to the children and is highly regrettable. However, it's also probably a lot less common than a mother forcing a stepfather on the kids. Women initiate nearly three times as many divorces as men. Men remarry after divorce at somewhat higher rates than women, but not anywhere near three times higher.

To put it another way, the primary cause of stepparents is birth mothers.
10:32 AM on 11/16/2011
You may or may not see this reply...I've read through most of your comments on this article and I have no idea what happened in your situation, but you sound very, very upset and bitter and probably have good reason to be (for all I know).

However, in general...very important...in general (not in your specific case) women are treating marriage like Kleenex...it is great until it is used and then it can be thrown away just as easy. I believe what most men on here are trying to point out is that when they said, 'till death do us part' and 'for better or for worse' they actually meant it.

If you don't agree with those commitments, wouldn't you agree there needs to be a wholesale change in the marriage process? Or at the very least, those phrases should be changed to, "Till I don't like you anymore" and "for better or until I'm depressed and don't want to deal with this marriage anymore."?
02:50 PM on 11/14/2011
I am not aware of many divorces that take place the way this article describes, however. Where couples recognizing they are struggling, sit down and in a mature fashion discuss splitting up, the effect on kids, etc. Mine, and those of friends I know were throw downs where one spouse had already checked out, likely was having an affair, and the other spouse does their best to simply survive and "be there" for the children.

So, call me cynical, but all three bullet points were meaningless to the end of my marriage. She left. I was standing there holding the pieces. The kids were affected. We were all devastated. It was what it was. There was no way to "minimize" it other than try my best for the kids.
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DrVeronicaEyeMD
06:04 PM on 11/14/2011
I agree. NO ONE acts this way. This is a fairy tale. Now perhaps an article about how to make things better after everyone behaves poorly-one parent checking out and the other acting like the holier-than-though martyr.
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Aerosol
09:30 PM on 11/24/2011
Send the kids to live with grandparents
02:42 PM on 11/14/2011
If one spouse demands a divorce, then they will get it, even if it hurts the kids. You have no choice but to go along with the demand for divorce, you just do the best you can to make sure your kids feel loved.
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Zalkreb
02:56 PM on 11/14/2011
Well put. This fact seems to be lost on the majority of writers on divorce. They almost always regard divorce as something that just happens, like weather, as in, "After her divorce..."

Or they describe it as though it were a mutual decision the couple arrived at together, like picking a vacation spot: "They got divorced."

Far more often, however, one spouse primarily initiates the divorce with the being less supportive or even actively opposed. "She sued him for divorce, had him evicted from his home and separated from his children and forced him to pay her a third of his income for the next 10 years."

Actually, the typical family divorce story goes like this: "Nobody wanted divorce except Mom. She got it. She's happier and healthier. Everybody else isn't."

Somehow you never see that story in print, however. It's weird. The Hollywood cliche of the dad who spends too much time working and neglects his family, only to repent in the end and fade out surrounded by beaming wife and frolicking kids is a movie standard. But I don't recall a single film about a mom who splits up the family in her quest for an idealized vision of romantic love, but eventually realizes that maybe it wasn't such a smart, brave, admirable move and, in fact, screwed up everybody else's life royally. I wonder why?
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Aerosol
09:31 PM on 11/24/2011
Yah, the truth!
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DrVeronicaEyeMD
06:15 PM on 11/14/2011
When I requested a divorce , it was because I love my sons. I had become miserable and depressed. Now they have a happy mother and I believe they would tell you the event of the divorce was traumatic but after as the healing that took place in all of our lives, the trauma resolved. Life is full of adversity. When kids learn to deal with it, the are better off. Those people who learn how to win over adversity are the ones who triumph in life.
Both parents generally love their kids. It is blatantly unfair to suggest that requesting divorce is an act of hate towards one's children.
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Zalkreb
11:47 AM on 11/15/2011
This the form of denial that says that divorce is actually good for children. It includes a variant, which holds that whatever is good for the mother is good for the children.

Others encountered include the plain denial stating that women don't drive divorce for personal reasons, the mystery denial that says that we just don't know what is going on with divorce, the just-desserts denial that says the guys had it coming, the it-hurts-me-more-than-it-hurts-you denial and, finally, the unspeakable denial which holds that it's just too horrible or, specifically in this case, "unfair" to tell the truth.

When it comes to women and divorce, denial is definitely a river in Egypt.

Look, why not just bow to the well-established facts? Then we can perhaps come up with some ways to make things better that don't involve punishing women, fear of which I suppose is at the root of these energetically squirming denials.

Can't anybody think of ways that could potentially reduce the incidence and impact of divorce without punishing women? I sure can. It's easy once you face the facts and start trying to deal with them rather than deny them.
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Aerosol
09:35 PM on 11/24/2011
Divorce = Dislike. In most marriages, Divorce = Hate. So, I'm glad that you were the strong one in the Divorce. You don't say what condition the Father is in. If he is also happy, then the Boys have a great role model. If they are watching their Father feeling rejected, then they are internalizing a whole lot of fear. Boys who grow up in divorce have 3 times higher suicide rates. I mean, it sounds like your situation is pearly white, but, in divorce, the kid who doesn't complain or react tends to fare much better off than the others and this is a strong survival mode for growing up in divorce where any acting out is just too much commotion to deal with on top of the parents' problems.
02:03 PM on 11/14/2011
Here is an idea: Don't split. Try to put the welfare of your children before your own and honor your commitments you selfish people.

And please, don't come at me with the 5% of the time minority instances, and then apply it to the majority, that force divorce.
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DrVeronicaEyeMD
06:17 PM on 11/14/2011
Hmmmmm. You are obviously not a therapist.
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Aerosol
09:36 PM on 11/24/2011
Therapists suck when it comes to divorce and kids.
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Zalkreb
01:50 PM on 11/14/2011
I think the point of this article is that if we bend over backward to find evidence supporting the idea that divorce isn't always terribly harmful to all children in all circumstance, we can find it. Furthermore, if we discount contrary evidence, we can strengthen support for our idea. It's important to be open-minded, but this exercise seems to represent a pretty modest advance of our knowledge on the topic.

Sure, divorce is not the only factor in influencing how children develop into successful adults. That's obvious. But it's equally obvious that it's one of the most important.

As a general rule, all factors being equal, divorce is more likely to harm children than not.

Of course, all factors are probably not equal in the real world. So if all divorces occur optimally, the damage on children is likely to be lessened or even absent in a larger number of cases. And if all intact marriages are maximally bad, then divorce may be a better option for the children's interests.

However, this really doesn't move us very far from the starting contention, which is that divorce is generally, significantly, long-lastingly negative for children. You don't have to bend over very far, or discount much evidence, to reach that conclusion.
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darquelourd
You Get What You Play For
01:08 PM on 11/14/2011
#5 Live a lie. That won't cause any problems for anyone down the line. The sooner children get used to living in denial the better. That way they won't be able to make the distinction between a lie and the truth much like many Americans these days.
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Zalkreb
02:02 PM on 11/14/2011
You can call it "living in denial" or you can call it "honoring your commitments" and "fulfilling your responsibilities." You could even call it "hanging in there when the going gets tough." Is continuing to stand up and do what's expected of you and what you promised to do even when you'd rather do something else really the same as to "live a lie"? I'm not sure about that.

I get the feeling I may even be taking what you're saying the wrong way. I'm assuming your being ironic, but I could be wrong about that.
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darquelourd
You Get What You Play For
02:11 PM on 11/14/2011
when children are involved everything is complicated. otherwise I would advise any adult not to put up with any nonsense and take control of their life. people can deal with change. people can adapt. there's no reason to try and maintain something that isn't "true" or doesn't "work".
05:33 PM on 11/14/2011
I see it as being in denial to tell children that divorce is a good thing. Necessary sometimes, but not good.

And from the kids' point of view, unless the home is truly awful, they are not going to see it as a good thing.
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darquelourd
You Get What You Play For
02:17 PM on 11/15/2011
of course living in denial and burying your true feelings won't harm them. or if you lose it and start arguing or beating on one another. oh well.