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Joseph Nye

Joseph Nye

Posted: April 1, 2008 10:18 AM

Bush's Vision, Luck and Historical Legacy


I wrote a piece on Bush in Sunday's Los Angeles Times which compared him to Woodrow Wilson. A number of people have questioned the comparison, so I thought it useful to open a broader conversation. (A more detailed discussion is in my new book, The Powers to Lead.)

Wilson and Bush have many similarities. Both were highly religious men who came to office without experience in foreign policy and responded to a crisis with a bold moralistic vision. Many of Bush's speeches about promoting democracy could have been given by Wilson. Both men proposed policies that had a great gap between expressed ideals and national capacities. Both were stubborn. As one of Wilson's advisors said, "once a decision is made it is final. There is no moving him after that." Wilson was offered a compromise that would have led the Senate to ratify American membership in the League of Nations, but he adamantly refused. Bush, of course, has been notoriously stubborn about his Iraq War and thinks that history will absolve him as it did Wilson and Harry Truman.

In judging leaders, there is always a question of luck. Wilson was unlucky that a stroke crippled him in the midst of his campaign to educate the American public about the League of Nations. Ironically, had the stroke killed him, the Senate would almost certainly have ratified a version of his League and he would have left office (posthumously) as a hero. Instead, his stubbornness meant that his policies were rejected, and isolationism crippled American foreign policy for the next twenty years. Eventually, Wilson's reputation was rescued by World War II and the creation of the United Nations.

I doubt Bush will be as lucky in the long run. Some dimensions of luck are purely fortuitous, but people also help to make their luck. Reckless reality-testing and unnecessary risk-taking are often part of "bad luck".

Future historians are likely to fault Bush for reckless reality testing, and going it alone. As the Canadian political leader Michael Ignatieff puts it, "it was not merely that the president did not take the care to understand Iraq. He also did not take the care to understand himself." Good coaches analyze their game and their opponent's game so that they can capitalize on errors and benefit from "good luck." History tends to be unkind to the unlucky, but historians also judge leaders in terms of the causes of their luck. Wilson was stubborn, but not reckless or unilateral. He entered World War I reluctantly and sought a multilateral solution at the end.

Even if fortuitous events lead to a better Middle East twenty years from now, future historians will criticize the way Bush distributed the risks and costs of his actions. People who try to climb Mt. Everest accept a degree of risk, but a team leader still has to make sure that the whole group understands the balance between risk and achievement. It is one thing to pose a grand vision that leads people up a mountain; it is another to lead them too close to the edge of a cliff. Wilson was lucky that the outcome of World War II rescued his League idea. But even if the Middle East is better twenty years from now, historians will ask if it is because or in spite of Bush's actions.

 
 
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11:47 PM on 04/01/2008
What infuriates me as a proud Canadian ; aware of the Canadian record in every war since www 1 ( I won't list the battles ,the medals, the respect that the rest of the world holds for Canadian vets) , is that the little twerp Bush has never so much as had his nose bloodied in anger, I wish that he had visited Vancouver sometime in his past. Being such a cowboy he might have visited the American Hotel to listen to some country music and I might have had the opportunity to shit =kick the stupid goof. The world would be a different place today.
12:40 PM on 04/02/2008
Uhh.. We don't interfere in your politics, and we don't appreciate you butting your nose into ours.

Thank you.
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07:23 AM on 04/03/2008
Uhhh, he's allowed to butt in. Remember, as bad as our economy, and as little as we're liked throughout the world, what we do still affects them, and therefore I would like to know their opinion!!
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10:10 PM on 04/01/2008
This article is so offensive where it claims Bush is simply unlucky. He is unthinking, unaware, inflexible and not simply unlucky. If Bush has vision it does not rest on reality. His bad luck is not looking at the consequences of his actions, which is more commonly referred to as irresponsibility or stupidity. His historical legacy will be one of warfare.

Wilson was dragged into the war and he wanted to use the oucome as a basis for the creation of a League of Nations. Bush created a war to expand executive powers and as a precursor to some vague idea of democracy. In Bush's narrow vision, it is only elections which spell democracy and not institutions and the rule of law. In fact, Bush is doing all he can to subvert the rule of law at home.

Bush's lies to lead us into Iraq were much more than a hike up Mount Everest. Again this idea is so offensive. One can read any one of a number of books, like Hubris by Isikoff and Korn, to see how Bush twisted the intelligence. Finally, one does not wage war to create democracy, especially in a part of the world where we are hated anyway.
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06:00 PM on 04/01/2008
"Good coaches analyze their game and their opponent's game so that they can capitalize on errors and benefit from "good luck." "

The fact that Bush had failed to do his pre-invasion homework by learning about the different religious sects (Sunni and Shiite) in Iraq -- one of the first lessons taught in "Waging Wars of Aggression in the Middle East, 101" -- is very revealing about our "Commander-in-Chief." If he had made the effort to study the regional cultures, developing an understanding about the fundamental differences among their religions, then perhaps he would have anticipated the disastrous violence following the removal of Hussein. He ignorantly assumed that the war was won following Hussein's fall, and he made a fool of himself by "playing dress-up" as a pilot and standing triumphantly beneath a "mission accomplished" banner. We now all know that he -- with all of his ignorance and arrogance -- made a colossal blunder regarding his failure to have a post-invasion plan for peace. The negative results -- an endless post-invasion occupation -- have been staggering, for Iraq and America, and I believe that this ultimate nightmare will ultimately condemn Bush as a failure by historians.
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10:12 PM on 04/01/2008
Bush's minions; such as Wolfowitz, said, I believe, there is no history of conflict between Sunni and Shia.
08:03 AM on 04/02/2008
If there has ever been an instance where we do not need to wait for the judgment of historians, this is it. Bush is a failure of historic proportions. There may be a question as to whether he is the worst President in our history, but I doubt that there will be much debate even on that issue.
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10:52 PM on 04/02/2008
Why should we wait for historians to tell us what we already know? Bush is a disaster.
05:32 PM on 04/01/2008
When you see bush smiling or that stupid giggle he does when it is completely unappropriate, it is because he finds it humorous that US citizens like yourself can be so caught up in a wave of patriotism, he can privatize a war to the tune of 300 million dollars a day for his cronies and nobody can stop him. You try to give this bastard an essence of humanity when he is sending National Guard troops back over to Iraq for the fifth time and they are still not properly trained as soldiers when in fact if he did believe in the conflict, he would have instituted the draft 5 years ago but oh my, he would have never gotten re-elected then. Maybe I should save this post and send it back to you in a year from now when a Democratic legislature has to justify their existence and starts revealing all of the crap this president has pulled on the American public.
03:55 PM on 04/01/2008
Obama has bought into Saddam wasnt a threat to anyone; Saddam didnt cause 9-11; Saddam was a good guy because he was secular; as we all should be.

The lie thats been sent out to the American people 5 years on is the "progressive" lie about Bush lying. Because "progressives" think Bush is a moron; an intellectual lightweight;; how could someone that stupid lie to all the smart congressional leaders?

Because he didn't lie to any of them; they had equal access to all Intel out of Iraq; they saw the several truckloads of UN produced inventory on Iraqs weapons programs, plus much of that info was known for already a dozen or so years. Also, Bush CLEARLY told the American People the night prior to invasion that all of this would be unwarrented if Saddam were to just step down as dictator; Bush said the reason for invasion was REGIME change.

But the "progressives" whom are merely regressive have performed a lie about a MORON President lying to congress authorizing use of force on Iraq. All you backwards thinking Moronic braindead liberals bought Kerrys interpretation of that bill ; titled "the Use of Force on Iraq" to have some other meaning thats why he voted for it; Edwards is on record saying he was lied to ????

The historical facts are there...the lies are from the left
07:39 PM on 04/01/2008
There is not one single statement of truth in your entire post. None of it. EVERYTHING you mention was debunked so long ago that one must wonder where you have been for the past 5 years.

Inspectors, both UN, and otherwise, all came to the same conclusion BEFORE the invasion -- the weapons were not there. They had not been there for years. To this day, Bush continues his lies, as does Cheney, consistently insisting that the weapons were there, that Saddam had ties to the 9/11 attacks, that Saddam provided safe haven to al Qaeda when he in FACT saw al Qaeda as an enemy, lying in the face of the FACTS that you seem to have missed completely. Nothing Bush put forward as rationale for invading Iraq was true -- NOTHING. You make reference to "historical facts", yet you are completely ignorant of historical facts.

BTW, you do not have to be smart to be a good liar. There is a difference between being intellectual. and being dishonest as is Bush. People often are dishonest without being intellectually adequate. You just have to be dishonest.
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07:47 AM on 04/02/2008
You are correct, the facts are there. Of course, they are the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you're saying. Please go out and actually READ something before you post here again. Like, I don't know, something NOT written by rush, or o'liely, or rove.....

I suppose that you also think that the reason that we went to war when we did was because of those war hungry DEMOCRATS!!!
03:46 PM on 04/01/2008
The premise of this article is absurd on its face, based on the same kind of intelligence as Bush's Iraq war, with no logical conclusions drawn. The author has cherry-picked a few coincidental aspects from these presidencies and fabricated actual similarities between the men while totally ignoring the overwhelming distinctions between the presidencies and the men, which so overpoweringly outweigh any such similarities.

The only comparisons to be made between Bush and past presidents are to point out the complete failure in virtually every facet of this administration. To begin with, Wilson was an intellectual, and the disparities between Bush and Wilson only grow from there, regardless to whether one considers personal qualities, or political qualities. Even a short historical, biographical read of Wilson reveals glaring differences in the high level of Wilson's accomplishments compared with Bush's, in and out of office.

As for comparisons to Truman, one need only look at Truman's military service, and then note how the disparities between Bush and Truman grow from that mark, and again, with only a brief historical, biographical reading.

Ironically, there is more similarity between Bush and Saddam. Both were installed in coups d'état, their administrations based on power grabs and lies. Both worked to reduce individual freedoms. Both started needless wars. Both were criminals. Both were paranoid insecure persons. Both were oil and war profiteers, responsible for tens of thousands of needless deaths. There is no "moralistic vision" from Bush, only self-serving, fraudulent rhetoric.
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10:20 PM on 04/01/2008
Yes, the author of this article sounds like a true Bush historical revisionist. Its almost like saying both Bush and George Washington liked cherry ice cream and therefore, Bush is Washingtion. So may of these trial ballons will go up to reclaim Bush's legacy of disaster on the part of the far right.

No president in our history has gone as far out of their way so as not to learn anything in their entire lifetimes as Bush. Now we see the results. Bush will return to the ranch and happily cut shrubs. Real thinking presidents and their cabinets will have to get us out of this mess. How can one, such as Bush, attend our nation's best universities and be as unknowledgeable about anything?
03:36 PM on 04/01/2008
but that would be the most moronic law ever created...because our armed forces are funded by the U.S. Taxpayer, not the Danish or Japanese taxpayer. We have a right to use our Armed Forces to defend us! no one else;

In fact, it was allowing the UN to decide how our armed forces were to be used that led us to Invading Iraq in the 1st place.
04:01 AM on 04/02/2008
Um, ..., the U.N. had absolutely nothing to do with our illegal invasion of Iraq. You don't seem to know what you are talking about. The U.S. invasion of Iraq was executed WITHOUT United Nations sanction of said invasion.
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07:48 AM on 04/02/2008
Um.....NO! The UN wasn't involved in us attacking Iraq. In fact, the UN specifically told us NOT to invade Iraq!
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03:09 PM on 04/01/2008
HOPEFULLY he will be taken before an International Court of Law and tried and convicted of numerous war crimes against our own nation's citizens and international citizens.

THAT would be the reality of it.

Ignoring that fact that he is a criminal is denying history at it's base.

FACTS don't lie.

He will be remember as the first utter failure as a president of the United States of America.

We've hit ROCK BOTTOM and he is the poster child for what this country will NEVER go back to again.
04:08 PM on 04/01/2008
what would he be convicted of???? would you have to also include our current congressional and senate leaders? afterall, they are accomplices
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07:49 AM on 04/02/2008
Um, how about the WAR CRIMES he's ordered? Or the fact that he broke the most important international law, according to the NUREMBURG TRIALS?
04:51 PM on 04/01/2008
If the Democrats show some backbone and not grant immunity to the telecoms , Bush will be a branded criminal long before any International Court of Law possible proceedings.
03:06 PM on 04/01/2008
I hate these comparisons to Woodrow Wilson. That is sooo part of the Bush Koolaid. Wilson was motivated by the idealism of a peaceful world working together for the common good. Bush's motivations were a hodgepodge of, as Michael Kinsley put it, "oedipal Tennis" with his father, and the Cheney/Rumsfeld vision of the "Unitary Executive". The Neo-cons and their democracy in the middle east vision was just a useful tool for the administration to promote their war. I don't believe we went in there for oil, but don't give me the crap that Bush was primarily motivated by Wilsonian visionary idealism. I just don't believe it.
04:01 PM on 04/01/2008
There is no comparison with any former president or leader of this country that can be made with george bush.

He is simply a criminal who we let live in the white house for 7 years who came close to destroying our country for good.

If we let him stay for the remainder of his term he will probably succeed in finishing the job and you can remove from the preceding sentence the words "came close to destroying" and replace them with "destroyed".
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04:37 PM on 04/01/2008
Agreed--compare him to any confirmed sociopath, but not to even marginally respectable or competent people in history. Napoleon comes to mind...but I'm not sure he was sufficiently narcissistic or had enough war-lust to be comparable.

Just to mention Bush (or Cheney, or Rumsfeld, or Gonzales, or Wolfowitz, or Feith, or *fill in the blank*) in the same paragraph with historically honorable men is demeaning.
02:55 PM on 04/01/2008
While not perfect, the comparison of Bush to Wilson has more than a kernel of truth.

Wilson, in many ways naive about foreign policy, sought, in his own words, to "make the world safe for Democracy." His core idea was to create a partnership of democracies to promote world peace. Where he differed from President Bush and his fellow neoconservatives is in how to bring that about. Wilson's avowed method was primarily through trade and cooperation, backed by the use of force where necessary. The neoconservative's method is through a series of preemptive wars against "non-democracies," allowing the projection of America's version of trade and cooperation to the vanquished.

In practice, the two doctrines are indistinguishable. So, yes, Bush is "Wilsonian" in his vision. The question that remains, of course, is whether Wilson's vision was either practical or sane. American politicians of Wilson's day rejected both his vision and its instrumentality, the League of Nations. I'm inclined to see that rejection as a blow for freedom. Others are not.
04:01 PM on 04/01/2008
Sorry, but Wilson had genuine motives regarding democracy, unlike Bush's war of aggression and profit in Iraq. Don't start waxing romantic about Bush when his entire presidency has been a sham from day one. Bush's war has never been about democracy, as evidenced by the ever-changing rationale given from one six-month period to the next over the past 5 years.

You say, "...the two doctrines are indistinguishable."? Really? How to defend that statement? Use of force first, instead of last... No similarity at all in these two doctrines, especially when one considers the disgracefully dishonest approach from Bush's administration.

And, no, Bush is NOT, as you say, "Wilsonian in vision", unless you also consider other war criminals Wilsonian. Wilson had genuine motives behind his "vision", while Bush's actions lack all integrity and any vision at all beyond power, profits and revenge. Wilson's vision was based in his intellect, not out of ignorance as Bush's. To compare accomplishments such as Wilson's to failures such as Bush's would seem to indicate a dificit in terms of reading history, and in terms of interpreting events, as well as motives.
02:54 PM on 04/01/2008
Comparing Woodrow Wison to Bush? What did Wilson ever do to you?
02:48 PM on 04/01/2008
"Highly religious man"? Who you kidding, Bush used religion to get votes. He didn't give a rat's patooty about religion itself. That is clear from his wanton behavior going to war and his shock and awe foolishness. Shock and awe became pissed and payback. Osama bin Laden plays the bullcrap religious act too, same as Bush. Warring devils is all they are.
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10:21 PM on 04/01/2008
All Bush knows about religion is that God wants him to attack the Middle East to spread democracy.
11:01 PM on 04/01/2008
BUSH is a Rove creation. Rove took a fratbrat and make him look good an' folksy to fool folks into voting for Bush.

Advertising, media image creation is everything in the Republican-controlled MEDIA scene.
Smoke & mirrors, slick sound bites = Republican success in screwing middle-income Americans for another 8 years.
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02:40 PM on 04/01/2008
Bush's "legacy" won't be one. Bush will have no "legacy"; just failures!
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10:24 PM on 04/01/2008
Bush's legacy is a broken military, corrupting the Department of Justice, bankrupting the nation, destroying our reputation in the world, diminishing our civil rights, and turning our economy and system of checks and balances into that of a third world banana republic.
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02:35 PM on 04/01/2008
The Middle East is on fire. The Lebanon Civil War took 15 years to settle down. The Iraq Civil War might take longer. It might simmer and flare up until 2020. I don't think things can settle down any sooner.

The Bush Presidency is rated a failure even by some loyal Republicans. How will historians, who should be neutral, rate it higher than loyal Republicans?
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10:24 PM on 04/01/2008
Even McCain will not mention Bush.
02:05 PM on 04/01/2008
"...even if the Middle East is better twenty years from now..."

Better than what? Better than it is now or better than it used to be? And better for who - the masses, the local elites, or western corporations?