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A Jewish Voice Against the Burqa Ban

Posted: 04/23/10 01:53 AM ET

Even as a Jew in New York, I know of what it is like to be Muslim in France.

While studying abroad in the French city of Strasbourg in 2007, I decided to grow a bushy beard. Little did I know that in France, only traditional Jewish and Muslim men don anything but the most finely trimmed mustache or goatee. Since I did not wear a yarmulke or other head covering, people who saw me on the street assumed that I was Muslim.

I felt that police officers and passersby treated me with suspicion, and even on the crowded rush hour bus, few chose to sit next to me if they could avoid it. On one occasion someone followed me home and tried to start a fight, only to find that I was a bewildered American, not a French Muslim.

Never before, and never since, have I experienced disdain of this sort. On a daily basis, I was made to feel badly because of my appearance -- and what was presumed to be my corresponding religious affiliation. So when I read of the effort by French President Nicolas Sarkozy and his supporters to criminalize the burqa (and other garments that fully cover a woman's body, head, and face) in France, I understood it to be far more than a measure to protect women's rights or preserve the concept of a secular society, on which the modern French state is built.

In my opinion, it is easy to see how the "burqa ban" might be misused as a part of a broader effort to stigmatize a religious population, one that already perceives itself to be on the margins of society.

Admittedly, I am fundamentally opposed to any garment or religious practice -- including those found in my own Jewish tradition -- that suggests that women hold a different or subservient position. But the burqa ban in France will not achieve the aim of gender equality. If anything, it will strengthen religious conservatives in France's Muslim population by convincing members of the moderate majority of Muslims that the rest of French society will never accept them.

While there are said to be only 2,000 women who wear burqas in all of France today, the entire Muslim population, estimated to be around five to six million, will take umbrage at another measure that singles out their community.

If we assume that Sarkozy is genuinely motivated by the belief that the burqa "hurts the dignity of women and is unacceptable in French society," according to an April 21 article in the New York Times, his best response would in fact be to enact measures welcoming Muslim citizens more fully into French society. Such affirmations would undercut efforts by the small minority of religiously conservative Muslims to gather a following among disaffected coreligionists who feel unable to overcome anti-Muslim prejudice.

The need for the French government to treat religious minorities with respect is bolstered by its own history. In 1781, the enlightened German thinker Christian Wilhelm von Dohm made what at the time was a revolutionary suggestion: "Certainly, the Jew will not be prevented by his religion from being a good citizen, if only the government will give him a citizen's rights." But it was the French who first put Dohm's prophetic vision into action.

In 1806, French Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte emancipated French Jews by passing laws to improve their economic and social status. He invited them to live anywhere they pleased and recognized their religion, affirming its permanent place within the private sphere of French life. Though he did renege on several of his early commitments, Napoleon's efforts ultimately enabled Jews to become a full part of French society.

Through these acts of profound tolerance over 200 years ago, France set an example for all of Europe and proved that its open-mindedness was more than rhetorical.

Modern France would do well to follow its own admirable example and truly treat Muslim citizens as equal participants in society. Foregoing the burqa ban would be a sensible first step.

This article, now updated, was originally published by the Common Ground News Service.

 

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Even as a Jew in New York, I know of what it is like to be Muslim in France. While studying abroad in the French city of Strasbourg in 2007, I decided to grow a bushy beard. Little did I know that in...
Even as a Jew in New York, I know of what it is like to be Muslim in France. While studying abroad in the French city of Strasbourg in 2007, I decided to grow a bushy beard. Little did I know that in...
 
 
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copestir
09:23 AM on 06/04/2010
I think the Burqa is a lot like foot binding. It seems to be used as an issue of control of women.
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Abdi S
11:26 AM on 05/13/2010
France is the nation that believes freedom of religion should be respected not violated but today they are violating then convincing people freedom of religion still exist.
03:19 PM on 05/09/2010
Banning the Burka goes against people rights to make bad choices for themselves. However the security implications in banks and airports etc mean that Muslim women who choose to wear this clothing must take responsibility for it and not burden the rest of society with their commitments. If I walked around naked because my religion dictated it you would expect society to ban me from certain activities like teaching your kids or using public transport. The same goes for those who completely cover up, they must acknowledge the danger their choices can create unless they are responsible (i.e. don't go anywhere you shouldn't wear a balaclava). I have blogged about the liberty and security issues in more depth last week at www.sacredpolitics.com
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
05:30 PM on 05/02/2010
Excellent!
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04:14 PM on 05/02/2010
It is wrong to ban the burqua. I am a flaming feminist. It is wrong to disallow someone's culture and /or religion. Do I approve of how women are treated in the Muslim community. Absolutely not. I want those women to choose for themselves. It is education that will free those women, not restrictive laws. Surely being schooled and living in France will do more to change the real problem, the oppression of women, than this ban.
11:06 PM on 05/01/2010
Connie wilson, it is very selfish of you to support such a ban. Apparently you stayed too long in France to loose contact with the relative openness of the American society towards religious minorities. It is not up to another person to dictate how one should dress. The burqa wearing women are human beings too and deserve to live in the society with us. They dont bother anybody, why dont you simply leave them alone???
06:16 AM on 04/30/2010
I live in France and after much consideration I have decided that I would like to see a ban on the wearing of identity-concealing clothing in public, which is what the proposed law is about. It's not only about women in burkas, but about concealment of personal identity, tho of course it's the burka that has inspired the law. I feel sorry for those who would like to be entirely covered, for whatever reasons, because I'd like everyone to be able to openly and freely live their religious credo. But it's just not reasonable and it's too dangerous in the modern world to go everywhere incognito. Teachers don't know who they're delivering small children to at the end of the day, veils impede peripheral vision when driving, and so on. Plus, I have to say they're just downright creepy, old-fashioned catholic nuns habits and wimples make me uncomfortable, too. I respect Islam, and I honor Moslems and their religious choices, but if women really feel they must be entirely covered, I think they need to live in seclusion in a religious community. Already by wearing the burka they're saying they want to be excluded and hidden, so I think they should be able to do just that, away from the public eye.
02:45 PM on 04/29/2010
I vigorously oppose ANY type of "ban" on the basis of "religiousness" or even "culture". I am sufficiently annoyed by my homeland "bible-thumping" without worrying about other cultures' version of heresy.

A possibly good reason for a burqa ban would be for security and identification purposes... in which case this would have to logically also ban wearing Halloween masks.

I also do not buy the lame excuse that the burqa is a symbol of male domination over women (whether true or not)... that is an entirely different issue, and must be addressed accordingly.

I don't appreciate being legislated (i.e. dictated) as to what I can eat, smoke, f---k, or wear... period!... as long as I am not harming anyone else. So, accordingly, I would not seek to dictate to others.

The proposed ban is a despicable covert control tactic masquerading as local "cultural preservation".
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RSKennedy
10:04 PM on 04/30/2010
Well said!
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Savannah Logsdon
Disability Rights advocate & Autistic in rural PA
03:33 AM on 05/02/2010
Re: what the burka means

The Burqua is one of the few ways that the Koran explicitly states for a Muslim to demonstrate her faith. For a (admittedly small) portion of the veiled population, it is the one way that they can show themselves as religious beings. This is especially true in western societies, where it is a choice.

To ban the Burqua completely does the same thing to religious self determination that forcing all women to wear one does. It robs a woman of the right to express herself. In fact, some of the fiercest opponents to mandated veiling were women who were already veiled, not as a symbol of subservience to men but as a demonstration of their faith- a submission to their g-d. To mandate all women be veiled made their veiling effectively meaningless in a world where they were already denied much.

So while I am in full support of ending laws that mandate veil usage, I have to question and chastise those who wish to ban them outright.
08:10 PM on 04/28/2010
Muslims loose credibility, when they demand their wives wear a bag over their heads, and then when they show a little face, they throw acid in her face. What's up with that?
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Amryxx
politeness rules, but with sharpened edges
10:22 PM on 04/29/2010
I didn't know any Muslims who did that. Are you sure you're not imagining things?
01:03 PM on 04/30/2010
Actually, there have been instances of Muslim men throwing acid on the faces of women.

http://article.wn.com/view/2010/04/10/Acid_attack_woman_resigned_to_fate/

Are you sure you are not living in denial? There are over a billion followers of Islam in the world so it is not surprising that you haven't personally met someone who has done this.
10:49 PM on 04/27/2010
Women visiting Islamic countries must dress very very modestly or even wear a hijab. There is a constant threat of violence. There is little outrage over Islamic culture being forced on visitors and immigrants to Islamic countries. So why the outrage over France enforcing it's culture on visitors and immigrants? Even in America, we would not allow immigrants from cultures where they tend to walk around naked, to do so here.
Is there a moral difference between France oulawing a Burqa or America outlawing uncovered breasts or Iran requiring the Chadoor style of scarf.
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Salguod
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08:49 PM on 04/30/2010
Exactly! As I said in a comment on a related story, walk down the street in your burqa and I'll walk down the street naked! If both of us get arrested, fine! If neither of us get arrested, fine! But if one of us gets arrested and the other doesn't, that is not fine!
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Saad Ahmad
03:50 PM on 04/27/2010
Most Muslims in France are from North African or Eastern European extraction. In these countries, peoples don't wear face veils. Its just not practiced. This makes me think that individuals aren't getting this from domestic pressure at home and are simply taking on cultural practices from the Middle East because they think it would be more Islamic (even though the practice of wearing a face veil isn't really found in the holy text). This issue of burqa is just an excuse. The real issue here is that the cultural landscape in France is changing. Islam, whether people like it or not is becoming a European religion and "native" french people are lashing out with this ban and that ban.
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amber15
07:47 PM on 04/27/2010
no one is banning islam, just a practice deemed by Sarkozy and millions around the world as oppressive to women.......
and most muslims I've talked to claim the burqa has nothing to do with islam.........
and there is no evidence that most europeans are converting to islam.......
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Saad Ahmad
03:45 PM on 04/28/2010
You misunderstood me. What I said was most Muslims in France have either a North African or Eastern European background. I can't say that about all of them, but that's the makeup of the majority. What you must realize is that people from those two regions of the world DO NOT wear face veils. It’s simply not a religious practice there. The veil itself is in fact not even an orthodox Islamic practice! It’s just a Middle Eastern cultural invention (not N.A. or E.E. in origin at all). This gives me reason to believe that the women you see wearing veils in France (majority of whom come from N.A. or E.E.) are likely not getting it from domestic pressure from family members at home. Why would an orthodox Muslim parent from Tunisia force his daughter to wear a veil in France if it’s not even something he would ask of her if they were back in Tunisia?

Personally, being a male from a non-veil culture, if I was with a girl, I wouldn't want her to wear a veil either. Ultimately of course, it would be her choice. But, in my opinion, when I see girls who are not originally Middle Eastern in origin, who adopt the veil, they show their ignorance on their face (so to speak). Many of them think that a cultural practice found only in the Middle East, must by virtue of that fact, be an Islamic one. That's nonsense.
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Saad Ahmad
03:46 PM on 04/28/2010
Personally from my interaction with people from non-veiled and even veiled backgrounds, I don’t get the impression at all that they are oppressed in any way. They are simply adopting a cultural practice from the Middle East on their own terms (sometimes ignorantly, but always because they want to). I even get emails from friends who found “solutions” around the ban from others’ YouTube videos:

http://www.youtube.com/user/AbdAllah755#p/a/u/1/ZAMx5yomJXg
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joeinvt
the human being and fish can coexist
05:03 PM on 05/02/2010
Don't waste your time arguing with Amber who has already come out agianst a woman's right to choose.
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03:35 AM on 04/27/2010
I'm not convinced that the risk of offending Muslims at large is a good reason not to ban the burqa. Why should any government or population cave to the intimidation by the angry fundamentalists of one faith? Isn't that letting the terrorists win?

There is a collision of human rights and cultural legacy here. I am not a fan of moral relativism, so I tend to go with the higher ethic of human rights. Just because something is a cultural 'value' doesn't mean we should tolerate it. Others have made this point, so I shan't belabor it.
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Saad Ahmad
03:19 PM on 04/27/2010
you know YOU don't have to wear a burqa if you don't want to.
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quel sauvage
04:24 PM on 04/27/2010
That could be a valid point, Saad, were you a woman, and thus might actually wear a burqa. As it stands, you can dress in comfortable clothing whenever and wherever you please. Some Muslim women simply do not have that option.

I don't know that I support a ban, but I do agree with Panzerblume that not all cultural 'values' should be tolerated, particularly if they marginalize a portion of the population.
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08:00 PM on 04/27/2010
Precisely. I don't think that anyone should have to wear something as dehumanizing as a burqa.

Of course, some women may actually want to wear the burqa. Is it wrong to deny them the option? I don't know. It may be their wanting to wear it is a product of abusive indoctrination into an outdated idea about what it means to be a woman. Thus, I would lean toward supporting the ban. To what extent a ban could actually repair the damage done by religiously founded sexism, I'm not sure.

At any rate, the issue shouldn't be determined by fear of Islamic anger.
03:03 AM on 04/27/2010
If it is true that Napoleon granted Jews the right to live in France, and this was a great step forward, one of the principle conditions was that they cease to wear their traditional Jewish clothes. Which gets us back to the burqa...
02:05 AM on 04/27/2010
I can't help but feel our absolute tolerance of any and all cultural and religious customs might come back to haunt us.

Must I be tolerant, accepting, and respectful when a family in France takes their daughter back home to North Africa at age three for female circumcision? Will I clap my hands in glee when they marry her off at age nine? No, I won't. So why must I be accepting of the full face covering veil which hides the identity of women only?.

Why is it so awful to expect groups, when integrating into a new society, to accept that some changes or limitations are expected?

Ban the burqa in the West. Do not let it take a foothold. Stop feeling guilty about what's right for society as a whole. Don't make it an issue of religion or even culture, this is an archaic custom and it does not need to be accepted by us.

-Proud to be intolerant of the full face covering veil.
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11:14 AM on 04/26/2010
If other people are required to show their face on driver's licenses and ID cards, why should one group of women be allowed to hide their faces behind the veil? And couldn't potential suicide bombers (males) don the ensemble as a disguise? If I had my own way, I'f ban it too here in America. If you flee your extremist Islamic state to escape persecution, try to live with the laws of your host country. Don't expect the authorities in your adopted country to uphold shariya law, or wink at your honor killings and death threats you issue to cartoonists. Don't take advantage of the freedoms so many bled and died for. If, for religious purposes you can refuse to remove your veil when required, then we might as well allow the Rastafari to smoke their sacred herb without fear of prosecution. If you want to live under those aspects of your faith that are in conflict with the laws of our land, then perhaps you should have migrated to states that applaud those practices. Or just stayed home.