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Offensive Liturgy In The Passover Seder: Take It Out

Posted: 04/ 1/10 02:43 PM ET

On Passover, the Jewish people are created anew as we commemorate the Exodus from Egypt. We are reminded time and again that we were once slaves in the land of Egypt and escaped because of the goodness of God and the leadership of the prophets. The ceremonial Seder meal is our tool for collective catharsis and connecting to our religious origins.

The observance of Passover has changed over time to ensure that each generation of Jews understands the renewal of people and faith to be its own. Animal sacrifices at the central Temple in Jerusalem millennia ago assumed symbolic forms as eggs and shank bones. In response to widespread messianism in Europe during the tenth and eleventh centuries, the Prophet Elijah and prayers for return to the Holy Land made their debuts. And as a result of oppression during portions the Middle Ages, a rancid piece of liturgy was added to the service.

Even in the more progressive My People's Passover Haggadah (Passover prayerbook), the section on "God's Triumph over Evil" reads:

Pour out Your wrath on the nations who do not know You and on the countries who do not call upon You. For they have devoured Jacob and desolated his home. Pour Your anger over them, and let Your fury overtake them. Pursue them in fury and destroy them beneath Adonai's sky.

When we read this section at our Seder this year, there was a collective wince at the table -- not so much from our gentile guests but our Jewish ones. Could our religion, our people, ever wish something so terrible on others? My wife quickly jumped in to explain the historical context, that this is what an oppressed people would yell to vocalize its pain.

I knew intellectually that she was right, but the lines seemed so misplaced, so terrible. On a holiday of freedom, one in which we also reflect on the pain that the ten plagues caused the Egyptians and take wine out of our glasses to reduce our joy accordingly, it seemed unfitting to wish ill upon others. So I followed up on my wife's insightful remarks more simply: "That's true... But these are ugly words."

These ugly words may not have offended my gentile guests and may have even been overlooked by my Jewish guests after another glass of ritually mandated wine. But with the understanding that it is in every generation that we go from slaves to free people and recommit ourselves to a Jewish life and Jewish morals, "God's Triumph over Evil" should be excised from the Passover Seder entirely.

Once we were slaves to the oppression in our past. Now we are free to learn from it.

 

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On Passover, the Jewish people are created anew as we commemorate the Exodus from Egypt. We are reminded time and again that we were once slaves in the land of Egypt and escaped because of the goodnes...
On Passover, the Jewish people are created anew as we commemorate the Exodus from Egypt. We are reminded time and again that we were once slaves in the land of Egypt and escaped because of the goodnes...
 
 
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10:09 AM on 04/11/2010
I posted a reply to this article of yours on "Shfoch Hamatcha" on my blog, Tikkun Olam, here:
http://lady-light.blogspot.com/2010/04/pour-out-thy-wrath.html

For a "rabbinical student" to write such an article which reeks of embarrassment and 'political correctness'--that is what is offensive, not the passage in question.
11:07 PM on 04/15/2010
Dear Lady-Light - You are railing against “'political correctness”. But you are doing so while decrying a thoughtful, sensible article highlighting institutionalized dogmatism of an age-old prayer for punishment of nonbelievers.
04:44 PM on 04/04/2010
holyheritic what ever makes you happy.
03:43 PM on 04/04/2010
Dear blackjack12

Thank you for reminding us of the numerous persecutions of the Jewish people IN EVERY GENERATION and that the almighty allowed all of these horrors to take place and simply watched.

The deep delusions of being “chosen” and of divine protection caused Jews to perpetrate hostility and hate against them.

That is why Spinoza, “Einstein’s Rabbi” and a refugee of the Portuguese inquisition, rejected these dangerous, hate generating beliefs and Einstein, a refugee of the Holocaust strongly promoted Spinoza's convictions.

I think you might find the following article “How is this night like other nights?” By Amir Ora bout the origin and evolution of the Haggadah interesting. It was published in the Israeli web news site of Haaretz.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1159901.html

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BIBLE BELTS
http://biblebelts.blogspot.com/

BEWILDERING BIBLE LEGENDS
http://bewilderingbiblelegends.blogspot.com/

In the East God Won - The high cost of organized ignorance.
http://whengodwins.blogspot.com/

Holy Cows and Calves - Sacred superstitions, aka religions, from the Indian subcontinent.
http://holycowsandcalves.blogspot.com/

ניפוץ אלילים - ביעור הבערות
HOLY HERETICS - Jesus, Maimonides, Spinoza, the Founding Fathers, Herzl and Einstein.
http://holyheretics.com/

HOLOCAUST HAGGADAH - שואה
Top religion merchants scandalous explanations as to where the God of the Jews was during the great massacre - blame the victims.
http://holocausthagaddah.blogspot.com/
03:17 PM on 04/04/2010
I can go on and on, but I think your guests will stop sqiriming and kinda get the drift from were those words were coming.
03:12 PM on 04/04/2010
1279 C.E. Hungary & Poland The Council of Offon denies Jews the right to all civic positions. The Jews of Hungary & Poland are forced to wear the "red badge of shame."

1283 C.E. Mayence & Bacharach Mob Attacks

1285 C.E. Munich Jews Burned Alive

1290 C.E. England King Edward I issues an edict banishing all Jews from England. Many drowned.

1291 C.E. France The Jewish refugees from England are promptly expelled from France.

1292 C.E. Italy Forced conversions & expulsion of the Italian Jewish community.

1298 C.E. Germany The libel of the "Desecrated Host" is perpetrated against the Jews of Germany. Approximately 150 Jewish communities undergo forced conversion.

1298 C.E. Franconia, Bavaria & Austria Reindfel's Decree is propagated against the Jews of Franconia and Bavarai. Riots against these Jewish communities, as well as those in Austria, result in the massacre of 100,000 Jews over a six-month period.

1306 C.E. France Expulsion

1308 C.E. Strasbourg Jews Burned Alive

1320 C.E. Toulouse & Perpigon 120 Communities Massacred & Talmud Burned

1321 C.E. Teruel Public Executions

1328 C.E. Estella 5,000 Jews Slaughtered

1348 C.E. France & Spain Jews Burned Alive

1348 C.E. Switzerland Expulsion

1349 C.E. Worms, Strasbourg, Oppenheim, Mayence, Erfurt, Bavaria & Swabia Jews Burned Alive

1349 C.E. Heilbronn (Germany) Expulsion

1349 C.E. Hungary Expulsion

1354 C.E. Castile (Spain) 12,000 Jews Slaughtered

1368 C.E. Toledo 8,000 Jews Slaughtered

1370 C.E. Majorca., Penignon & Barcelona Mob Attack
03:09 PM on 04/04/2010
1215 C.E. Rome Lateran Council of Rome decrees that Jews must wear the "badge of shame" in all Christian countries. Jews are denied all public sector employment, and are burdened with extra taxes.

1215 C.E. Toulouse (France) Mass Arrests

1218 C.E. England Jews Forced to Wear Badges

1231 C.E. Rome Inquisition Established

1236 C.E. France Forced Conversion/Massacre

1239 C.E. London Massacre & Property Confiscation

1240 C.E. Austria Property confiscation. Jews either imprisoned, converted, expelled, or burned.

1240 C.E. France Talmud Confiscated

1240 C.E. England Book Burning

1240 C.E. Spain Forced Conversion

1242 C.E. Paris Talmud Burned

1244 C.E. Oxford Mob Attacks

1255 C.E. England Blood libel in Lincoln results in the burning / torture of many Jews & public hangings.

1261 C.E. Canterbury Mob Attacks

1262 C.E. London Mob Attacks

1264 C.E. London Mob Attacks

1264 C.E. Germany Council of Vienna declares that all Jews must wear a "pointed dunce cap." Thousands murdered.

1267 C.E. Vienna Jews Forced to Wear Horned Hats

1270 C.E. Weissenberg, Magdeburg, Arnstadt, Coblenz, Singzig, and Erfurt Jews Burned Alive

1270 C.E. England The libel of the "counterfeit coins" - all Jewish men, women and children in England imprisoned. Hundreds are hung.

1276 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion

1278 C.E. Genoa (Spain) Mob Attacks
03:08 PM on 04/04/2010
1147 C.E. Wurzburg Massacre

1147 C.E. Belitz (Germany) Jews Burned Alive

1147 C.E. Carenton, Ramenu & Sully (France) Massacres

1171 C.E. Blois Stake Burnings

1181 C.E. France Expulsion

1181 C.E. England Property Confiscation

1188 C.E. London & York Mob Attacks

1190 C.E. Norfolk Jews Burned Alive

1191 C.E. Bray (France) Jews Burned Alive

1195 C.E. France Property Confiscation

1209 C.E. Beziers Massacre

1212 C.E. Spain Rioting and blood bath against the Jews
03:05 PM on 04/04/2010
1012 C.E. Rouen, Limoges & Rome Massacre

1012 C.E. Mayence Expulsion

1021 C.E. Rome Jews Burned Alive

1063 C.E. Spain Massacre

1095 C.E. Lorraine Massacre

1096 C.E. Northern France & Germany 1/3 of Jewish Population Massacred

1096 C.E. Hungary Massacre

1096 C.E. Ralisbon Massacre

1099 C.E. Jerusalem Jews Burned Alive

1100 C.E. Kiev Pogrom

1140 C.E. Germany Massacres

1146 C.E. Rhine Valley
03:02 PM on 04/04/2010
DATE PLACE EVENT why dont you give this out with your haggada reading it might help things


250 C.E. Canhage Expulsion

224 C.E. Italy Forced Conversion

325 C.E. Jerusalem Expulsion

351 C.E Persia Book Burning

357 C.E. Italy Property Confiscation

379 C.E. Milan Synagogue Burning

415 C.E. Alexandria Expulsion

418 C.E. Minorca Forced Conversion

469 C.E. Ipahan Holocaust

489 C.E. Antioch Synagogue Burning

506 C.E. Daphne Synagogue Burning

519 C.E. Ravenna Synagogue Burning

554 C.E. Diocese of Clement (France) Expulsion

561 C.E. Diocese of Uzes (France) Expulsion

582 C.E Merovingia Forced Conversion

612 C.E. Visigoth Spain Expulsion

628 C.E. Byzantium Forced Conversion

629 C.E. Merovingia Forced Conversion

633 C.E. Toledo Forced Conversion

638 C.E. Toledo Stake Burnings

642 C.E. Visigothic Empire Expulsion

653 C.E. Toledo Expulsion

681 C.E. Spain Forced Conversion

693 C.E. Toledo Jews Enslaved

722 C.E. Byzantium Judaism Outlawed

855 C.E. Italy Expulsion

876 C.E. Sens Expulsion

897 C.E. Narbonne Land Confiscation

945 C.E. Venice Ban on Sea Travel

1009 C.E. Orleans Massacre
02:56 PM on 04/04/2010
Pour out Your wrath on the nations who do not know You and on the countries who do not call upon You. For they have devoured Jacob and desolated his home. Pour Your anger over them, and let Your fury overtake them. Pursue them in fury and destroy them beneath Adonai's sky. lets try to read it in context
Under the leadership of Adolf Hitler, this brutal campaign began with a deliberate series of progressively hostile acts of bigotry, repression, humiliation and discrimination. Authorized by the Nazis and their collaborators, such actions were based on the views that the German people were a superior "race," that all non-Germans were therefore inferior, and that Jews were race-poisoners. The intervals between each phase -- from antilocution (using hostile, bigoted language) to avoidance to discrimination to violence to genocide -- were frighteningly small.

Jewish victims of the Holocaust were rounded up from all parts of Nazi-occupied Europe and shipped to concentration camps where almost all were shot, hanged, subjected to hideous medical experiments, gassed or worked to death. Only a small percentage survived. It did not matter whether they were rich or poor, religious or secular, or decorated soldiers of the First World War. If they had even one Jewish grandparent (a provision of the Nuremberg Laws), they were marked for destruction.
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11:57 AM on 04/04/2010
Read it in Hebrew and your gentile guests won't know what your talking about. Its important to stay strong and not become sheep (We did that once)..........doesn't mean you have to go out and kill someone.
jerry belairca
03:26 AM on 04/04/2010
I find please, that I am getting offended by so much criticism.
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09:21 PM on 04/03/2010
I applaud your sense of justice.

It brings to mind this quote: "He's got a lot of soul, [Joshua] has." ~ Ringo Starr
05:57 PM on 04/03/2010
"THERE IS MORE HONOR AND MAGNANIMITY IN CORRECTING,
THAN PERSEVERING IN AN ERROR."

--Thomas Jefferson: Batture at New Orleans, 1812. ME 18:123
http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff0750.htm

http://books.google.com/books?q="There+is+more+honor+and+magnanimity+in+correcting,++than+persevering+in+an+error."+&btnG=Search+Books

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Third president of the United States (1801-1809) and author of the Declaration of Independence.

He was one of the most brilliant individuals in history

Jefferson's interests were boundless, and his accomplishments were great and varied. He was a philosopher, educator, naturalist, politician, scientist, architect, inventor,
pioneer in scientific farming, musician, and writer, and he was the foremost spokesman for democracy of his day.
Jefferson had great faith in popular rule, and it is this optimism that is the essence of what came to be called Jeffersonian democracy.
During his lifetime he sought to develop a government that would best assure the freedom and well-being of the individual.

Jefferson swore his hostility, he said, to "every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
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ניפוץ אלילים - ביעור הבערות
HOLY HERETICS - Jesus, Maimonides, Spinoza, the Founding Fathers, Herzl and Einstein.
http://holyheretics.com/

HOLOCAUST HAGGADAH - שואה
Top religion merchants scandalous explanations as to where the God of the Jews was during the great massacre - blame the victims.
http://holocausthagaddah.blogspot.com/
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UnderTheHedgeWeGo
Show me some evidence.
09:51 AM on 04/03/2010
Mr. Stanton twice reference the indifference of his gentile guests to these words of violence.

"These ugly words may not have offended my gentile guests and may have even been overlooked by my Jewish guests"

Why would that be?

Are the non Jews too dimwitted to pickup on their meaning, or too lacking in morals to care?

I'm an Atheist and this passage is outrageous. Trust me, the meaning does not pass me by unnoticed.
01:03 PM on 04/03/2010
I assumed he was letting us know Jewish people can't read the body language of gentiles, or perhaps he assumes all gentiles are cool with violence and think it is a no-never mind. I would assume they were too embarrassed to criticize their host and were trying hard to hide it.

For people who scream "anti-semitic" at the smallest personal observation or criticism of their own foibles, Jews sure seem to make a habit of assuming the worst in others.

Personally, I suspect it is a result of their religious training.
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03:21 PM on 04/03/2010
How on earth do you interpret that as the guy assuming all gentiles are cool with violence? OMG! You whine about people who scream "anti-semitic" in your anti-semitic comment. Hateful.