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Judge H. Lee Sarokin

Judge H. Lee Sarokin

Posted: August 8, 2010 02:16 PM

Both the House of Representatives and the Senate have passed health care legislation
(The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act) and the President of the United States has signed it in to law -- it is the will of the people, the voice of the majority of elected representatives, the duly enacted law of the land. Conservatives have instituted a number of law suits (mostly emanating from Republican controlled states) to have the law declared unconstitutional. On the assumption that some federal judge may come along and do just that, I wonder if the judge and the decision will be challenged by the conservatives in the same way that they have challenged Judge Walker's decision in the same-sex marriage case.

Will the judge who declares the statute unconstitutional be described as Judge Walker was by
Rush Limbaugh as "a political activist wearing a black robe"? Will he also say that "The federal courts have absolutely no role in reversing the vote of the people" in the United States, as he claimed in respect to California? Will there be the same general cries of "thwarting the will of the majority" and the creation of a judicial tyranny?

Will they investigate the background of the judge as to his existing insurance coverage, his health history, his past employment with or representing insurance companies or his investments in them? Will he be charged with "bias" as a woman did on Fox News asking where was the evidence to support the Judge's made-up factual findings about the equality of child-rearing between heterosexual and same sex couples? (For starters, I would suggest she might consider looking at the evidence that was adduced at trial).

No. There will be no charges by conservatives of thwarting the will of the majority, decrying judicial activism, searching the private life of the judge to discredit him or impugn his integrity. Crowds will not take to the streets with obscene signs and dire warnings of the death of democracy. Rather the judge will be praised for his fairness and commitment to the Constitution and the goals of the Framers as they were envisioned at the moment the last signature was inked on the parchment.

Why would all of the usual labels spew out over the same-sex marriage decision and not one declaring health care legislation unconstitutional? The answer is simple: Conservatives hate the first and love the second. Plain and simple. It is activism if they do not agree; it is upholding the Constitution if they do. A reminder: Courts have the right and duty to declare a law invalid when it conflicts with the Constitution. There is no proviso stating "so long as the Conservatives agree with the decision". That language appears nowhere in the great document.

 
Both the House of Representatives and the Senate have passed health care legislation (The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act) and the President of the United States has signed it in to law --...
Both the House of Representatives and the Senate have passed health care legislation (The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act) and the President of the United States has signed it in to law --...
 
 
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01:56 AM on 08/11/2010
What was the point of this particular screed? You do understand "hypocrite" is an accusation, not an argument, right?
Javalation
Laughing in a Daydream
12:03 PM on 08/09/2010
If there were no religion in America, this wouldn't even be an issue. It is religion that perverts judgment into hatred, and give the haters the feeling that they are never wrong. Obviously, the majority vote shouldn't be allowed to strip a minority group of equal rights protection in the Constitution. But sadly, we all know that before the case even gets to the Supreme Court the right wingers have four judges in their pocket. It'll come down to Kennedy, who opposes discrimination against gays, but seems to think it's o.k. for States to make laws discriminating against them. What will win: Republican agenda of hate, or truth, justice and the American way. We'll have to wait and see.
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WilliamBradford
Veritas vos Liberabit
01:22 PM on 08/09/2010
I don't think this issue has anything to do with religion. In my church, marriage is a sacrament, and no law will change its importance and its definition. No matter how hard you try to cast it, this also has nothing to do with "hate". This is about homosexuals looking for society to bestow moral legitimacy through the courts.

Gays are not being "stripped" of a right. They are asking that a new right be created. If the activist judges succeed in creating this new right, then there will be a movement to abolish all government recognition of "marriage". This would be a rational resolution of the matter that I would support.
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Wendy Johnson
03:28 PM on 08/09/2010
WB, the day this stopped being a "religious" issue or a "moral" issue was when the state got into the business of issuing marriage licenses. If your church wants to discriminate, who's stopping them? I am sure there are still churches in this country that refuse to recognize second marriages after divorce, and marriages between believers and unbelievers, and all sorts of things. But they have no right at all to demand that the state do the same thing.
01:47 PM on 08/10/2010
"This is about homosexuals looking for society to bestow moral legitimacy through the courts" =
HATE.

You are just suffering from the disease of righteousness. You are blind to your bigotry regardless of whether you can see it. WE certainly can.
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11:49 AM on 08/09/2010
Almost all of us pick and choose the court decisions which we believe properly decided and those we believe wrongly decided based on our political beliefs. Is it inconsistent for Democrats to praise Judge Walker for this decision while at the same time denouncing Justice Kennedy and his siblings for the decision in Citizens United that found that groups of people, including corporations and labor unions, have the same free speech rights as individuals? The right says the word marriage is not in the constitution so there is no right of marriage and the left says the word corporation is not in the constitution so corporations have no right of free speech. It's the same fallacious argument from both sides.

Should a Federal court declare sections of the health care act unconstitutional I can guarantee that some of those who are praising Judge Walker will be denouncing the judge who issues that decision.
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02:43 PM on 08/09/2010
DinkSinger - I concede that we agree or disagree with decisions based upon our respective political beliefs. I have no fault with disagreement and public discourse on court decisions. What I do object to is the characterization of the decision and impugning the integrity of the ruling judge based solely upon the outcome. Progressives, Democrats criticize judicial decisions with great frequency, but the Conservatives, the Republicans own "thwarting the will of the majority", "judicial activism", "soft-on-crime", "judicial bias". That is their mantra whenever they do not agree. When a referendum or legislation that they oppose is declared unconstitutional---none of the labels are paraded out."Thwarting the will of the majority" is acceptable if they are not the majority or do not agree with it.
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WilliamBradford
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02:55 PM on 08/09/2010
And there was no hyperbole from the left in reacting to Citizens United?

In striking down Prop 8, the court was "thwarting the will of the majority". There are times that this can be the right thing to do, but it is still thwarting.
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Judge H. Lee Sarokin
Retired after serving 17 years on the federal cour
03:05 PM on 08/09/2010
Dink - I left out "legislating from the bench".
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11:32 AM on 08/09/2010
Hello Judge. As per usual my observations are a bit more technical. I agree with the decision, but disagree with the methodology. I do not believe you can use rational basis scrutiny to achieve the result in front of SCOTUS. I see absolutely no reason not to conclude that homosexuals are a class which have been subject historically to discrimination and thereby employ intermediate scrutiny, under which Prop 8 would surely fail. Perhaps you can explain in a nutshell why intermediate scrutiny is not applied?

Judge Sarokin wrote: "It is activism if they do not agree; it is upholding the Constitution if they do."

Sort of like Daley and others concerning the decision in McDonald?

Judge Sarokin wrote: "There is no proviso stating "so long as the Conservatives agree with the decision". That language appears nowhere in the great document."

Agreed. Nor is there a proviso stating "so long as the Progressives agree with the decision". ,

Side bar... the Canadian Declaration of Rights does do something similar in a non partisan manner by virtue of containing the infamous "notwitstanding clause". Thank heavens no such clause exists in our Constitution.
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Judge H. Lee Sarokin
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01:05 PM on 08/09/2010
legaleagle - Thanks as always for your sage comments. Actually I have tried to focus more on the reaction to the decision rather than its merits. I agree that constitutional decisions do not require Progressive approval either, but the Conservatives own the "activist---thwarting the will of the majority" mantra.
02:36 PM on 08/09/2010
In reference to "judicial activism"--isn't that the claim that "progressives" made about the Heller and McDonald decisions despite significant precedent for both?
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DaveNYC
06:28 PM on 08/09/2010
Yes. But to be fair, as long as we have had a Supreme Court, people who are disappointed with its rulings have invoked "judicial activism."

"Hey if the court hadn't gotten active, I would have won."

Arguably Marbury v. Madison was an early example. Certainly Dred Scott was.
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rel77
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11:06 AM on 08/09/2010
The hypocrisy Judge Sarokin points out is precisely what infuriates progressives these days, and makes debating the radical republicans pointless. How can you debate someone without a position, or a belief, or a set of principles to guide them? If the radical republicans really had principles they would applaud this decision as a strict interpretation of the constitution's equal protection amendment - instead they want to repeal the amendment. If they really cared about deficits they'd want to let the Bush tax cuts expire, instead they want to continue them forever. In a nutshell, conservative radicals want whatever laws make them rich and "protect" white "Christian" values from anything they perceive as threatening to those values. The last thing these extremists want is a democracy. They want a theocratic plutonomy, meaning a combination of Ayn Rand Capitalism and religious intolerance. That's why we have to throw everything we've got at them this November, and stop pretending that radical republicans are supporting a form of democratic government, because they're not. They used to, but those members have been almost completely purged from their Party.
10:54 AM on 08/09/2010
Once again Judge, you offer a clear and cogent factual argument. It is also rather odd that the same conservatives, who attack Judge Walker, seem to gloss over the fact that his name was first put forward for nomination to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan. A President held in such high esteem by the conservative movement.
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01:08 PM on 08/09/2010
denola - Thanks. I agree----facts do not seem to act as a deterrent.
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WilliamBradford
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10:50 AM on 08/09/2010
The debate over health care involves the federal government's authority to enforce a new power over the states and the people involving interstate commerce and billions of dollars. It is, at heart, a Constitutional issue since it involves the relative powers of the federal government, which the Constitution was specifically written to define and limit.

The gay marriage debate involves a minority attempting to enforce its re-definition of a cultural, religious, and legal tradition on the majority. It involves no Constitutional issues, since the idea of personal sexuality or family formation is not addressed by the Constitution.
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rel77
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused
11:41 AM on 08/09/2010
Your argument carries no legal weight. First of all, "marriage" has been the subject of no less than 14 Supreme Court decisions, so who and when you can marry is absolutely a constitutional issue. Secondly, gay marriage does not "redefine" marriage any more than interracial marriage redefines it. And "cultural, religious and legal tradition" were the exact same phrases trotted out when the Supreme Court struck down interracial marriage bans as unconstitutional. Conservatives are about to discover there's a whole lot about the Constitution they don't like, and that perhaps they should have left it alone.
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WilliamBradford
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12:01 PM on 08/09/2010
It is a matter of opinion, on which we clearly disagree, that racial differences are equivalent to "sexual orientation" differences. The judge, who clearly shares your opinion, ruled that "gender no longer forms an essential part of marriage". This is an opinion, not a fact.

I would agree with the statement that race is an arbitrary difference between people and therefore outlawing interracial marriage is unconstitutional. I do not believe that gender is an arbitrary difference that merits the same handling.
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Judge H. Lee Sarokin
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01:12 PM on 08/09/2010
WilliamBradford - With all due respect, I think you have the argument about gay marriage backwards. Prop 8 was an attempt by the majority to limit the rights of a minority, not the other way around.
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WilliamBradford
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01:40 PM on 08/09/2010
But Prop 8 was only enacted by the majority in response to activist officials and judges repeatedly attempting to redefine the legal meaning of marriage. The majority did not invent the idea of traditional marriage, they just voted to codify it into law more specifically.
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02:24 PM on 08/09/2010
Judge Sarokin wrote: "With all due respect, I think you have the argument about gay marriage backwards. Prop 8 was an attempt by the majority to limit the rights of a minority, not the other way around."

An argument, if employed, would not survive rational basis scrutiny. In order for the proponents of Prop 8 to prevail using the rational basis standard, it is necessary for them to assert what you are really doing is providing special benefits to heterosexual couples in order to encourage a more permanent bond so as to provide stability for the issue of the union. Such an argument could well survive rational basis scrutiny because it can not be argued that the provision for these special benefits are over broad in that they benefit childless couples. However, intermediate scrutiny is not so generous concerning the reach of a statute and Prop 8 would surely fail if that level of scrutiny is employed.
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skatoolaki
Passionate, fiery walking contradiction.
10:28 AM on 08/09/2010
So very well stated. Thank you, Your Honor.
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Judge H. Lee Sarokin
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01:12 PM on 08/09/2010
skatoolaki - Thank you.
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iskra
Natural enemy of sharks and tro//s
09:55 AM on 08/09/2010
Well said Your Honor.

Shall we also go back and examine the Judges involved in that wonderful case in Florida that saddled us with GWB?

I personally find this reprehensible to start accusing judges of not being able to separate their own personal views from the rules of law. Starting down this path can have no good ending.
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Judge H. Lee Sarokin
Retired after serving 17 years on the federal cour
01:17 PM on 08/09/2010
iskra - Thank you. When all else fails, it seems that the personal lives of judges are fair game. There are legitimate reasons for demanding recusal. Race, religion, gender or sexual preference are not among them.
12:44 PM on 08/11/2010
Why is it wrong for judges to enforce the law as written--which was all that was done in Florida
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Lee Johnston
Just my opinion I could be wrong
09:50 AM on 08/09/2010
Do you consider California a Conservative / Republican Sate? Yet the people who live there voted down Prop 8. Apparently there is no reason to vote for or against any Local, State and Federal issue until the Courts ruled on them to be Constitutional. All this has done is waste time and money on both the local and state level for California. Maybe the State Constitution needs to read “Make no law until all the Judges in the country have had time to review” so that the process doesn't waste taxpayer money.
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Bob Kellerman
Let's have more sanity toward each other
10:03 AM on 08/09/2010
TELL THE MORMONS THEY WASTED ALL THAT MONEY THAT COULD HAVE FED CHILDREN

Just because fascists CAN put something on the ballot, then run reprehensible TV ads spouting untruths, twisting voters into doing something unfair...............THEY DO.

And of course, courts do not review ballot measures --- PEOPLE bring the court challenges
10:22 AM on 08/09/2010
Like Mormons care about feeding children. They would have just found something else to hate if they hadn't spent the money on Prop 8.
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Dynamohum
09:27 AM on 08/09/2010
Thank you for your well reasoned and thoughtful post.
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Judge H. Lee Sarokin
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01:18 PM on 08/09/2010
Dyyamohum - Thank you.
redonthehead
Winning trophies for my game face alone
09:08 AM on 08/09/2010
Truth police... "it is the will of the people". Please sir, show me any poll since the beginning of this debate that shows the American people favor this legislation.

Also, as a judge I'm sure you can point to the specific article or amendment to the Constitution that allows the federal government to mandate that we plebs buy anything.

Regarding Prop 8, it's the same argument. Please point out any reference to marriage what-so-ever. If it's not mentioned that right is reserved to the state and the majority of the state has spoken.
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Dynamohum
09:20 AM on 08/09/2010
dead on the head, as in fried brain syndrome.
redonthehead
Winning trophies for my game face alone
09:25 AM on 08/09/2010
Losing the argument, bring out the insults.
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CynAnne
Laureates in Fact and Reality
09:31 AM on 08/09/2010
You show us proof that a heterosexual Judge could make that same ruling without any bias, red...the ball's in your court now.
redonthehead
Winning trophies for my game face alone
09:38 AM on 08/09/2010
I didn't say a word about bias. What I'm pointing out that there is nothing in the Constitution that mentions marriage. If that's the case, the will of the people should prevail, not a lone judge regardless of his or her politics. If this is so unpopular, the will of the people will be overturned the next time there is a ballot.
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Vikingdave
When vikings were just little.
02:08 PM on 08/09/2010
CynAnne. Greetings my friend. Hope you are healthy and happy. The American Taliban.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AZAWKfbmvE&feature=related
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dhampton100
58 years old Christian American -US Army Veteran.
07:08 AM on 08/09/2010
WHOAAAA! YOU GO JUDGE!
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HeresaClue
Grrrrrrr.....
06:39 AM on 08/09/2010
Thank you Judge Sarokin, both for another great article and for taking time to respond to so many comments.
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Judge H. Lee Sarokin
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01:24 PM on 08/09/2010
HeresaClue - Thank you. I enjoy the exchange and am always open to the opposite view ------but cherish the agreement!
06:27 AM on 08/09/2010
I agree with you judge. If they want to argue about the 10th Amendment preventing the feds from interfering with states when it relates to health care, they should be using the same argument to oppose DOMA. But we all know they aren't doing that.