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Republican Candidates Want the Federal Judiciary to Be More Like American Idol

Posted: 10/24/11 06:44 PM ET

The New York Times reports that Republican candidates for the presidency want to eliminate certain cases from the court's docket (like same-sex marriage), impose term limits for judges, give Congress the power to overrule the Supreme Court, abolish the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and cut judicial budgets -- all this in the name of ending "judicial activism". Judicial activism is in the eye of the beholder. In reality, it simply means a decision with which one does not agree. I seriously doubt that the Supreme Court's decisions regarding corporate moneys in elections, individual gun rights or the outcome of the Bush/Gore election are examples the candidates would cite of judicial activism.

The greatest single guarantee of judicial independence is life tenure. Proponents of term limits are not without justifiable support, but it is difficult to see how term limits would eliminate the much feared and reviled "judicial activism". It would replace judges both with whom we agree and disagree. The Republicans keep insisting that judges must be held accountable; that somehow public opinion should influence outcomes. Nothing could be more inaccurate or contrary to constitutional principles, and nothing could be more dangerous than having Congress become a Super-Supreme Court as some have proposed.

Newt Gingrich claims that "judicial supremacy" is factually and morally wrong and "an affront to the American system of self-government". Since Marbury v. Madison in 1803, the law of the land has been that the courts determine what is or is not constitutional. If not the courts, who else? Can you imagine leaving those critical decisions to Congress -- like this Congress! And remember, it is these same Republicans who require judicial nominees to take a blood oath that they will follow precedent! Apparently Marbury is not on Mr. Gingrich's list. Mr. Gingrich also suggests that if we cannot rid ourselves of these liberal judges, we should either punish them or extort their compliance by cutting their funds -- your democracy at work. He suggests shutting their electricity so that they cannot function. Now there is a platform plank for a presidential candidate that should inspire us all.

Among the most ridiculous suggestions, Rick Santorum recommends abolishing an entire circuit court (the 9th) because he disagrees with its rulings. If disagreeing with how a branch of the government was conducting itself were the criteria, we would certainly abolish Congress. Removing judges or entire circuits because some or even a majority do not like or agree with their decisions violates the Constitution and the separation of powers. We cannot have a country in which the president or Congress can overrule the unpopular decisions of the judiciary or fire the judges who render them.

Court decisions need not be and frequently are not popular. Many would be disapproved by the public if submitted to a vote. Decisions conferring rights on criminal defendants are often unpopular. Integration of schools might not have passed a plebiscite. Courts are not the same as American Idol. The public does not vote on decisions. One of the roles of the Constitution, and in turn the courts, is to protect the minority from the oppression of the majority. The judicial branch is the last bastion of freedom in this country. The repeated attempts to politicize it demean it in the eyes of the public.

 
The New York Times reports that Republican candidates for the presidency want to eliminate certain cases from the court's docket (like same-sex marriage), impose term limits for judges, give Congress...
The New York Times reports that Republican candidates for the presidency want to eliminate certain cases from the court's docket (like same-sex marriage), impose term limits for judges, give Congress...
 
 
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timber1647
It's either sadness or euphoria
10:45 AM on 11/10/2011
I'm always reluctant to tamper with Mr. Madison's, (et al) work. The framers set this system up for a reason and to my mind it was to prevent one branch from dominating the others. I don't always agree with the Supremes, but we are and always have been a nation of laws. They are the final interpreters of laws passed by Congress and as often as not have protected the minority from the over reach of the majority. I think I'd like the present system left alone.
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dennidus1680
06:44 PM on 10/25/2011
It's all about separation of powers. Our forefathers knew that there would be evil in the world and political grasping for power and wealth. They feared that their posterity would become apathetic and give away their freedom. That was the genius of the constitution and it's separation of powers in A CO-EQUAL GOVERNMENT. While these republican aspirants seem to want the opposite, they would howl as soon as they lost majority and the other side got power.
11:45 PM on 10/25/2011
You're missing the point - which is to make sure that they never lose majority. As Uncle Joe would say, it's not who votes, it's who counts the votes. And if they don't budget for counting, they can get Fox to pay for the rights to make something up.
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cave mann35
Like Obama NOW??
05:54 PM on 10/25/2011
Judge I have to agree that you can call Judicial Activism depending on the position you take in a case, as Liberals see Citizen's United and calling corporations people as the judiciary going too far. The problem with candidates for public office Judge, was alluded to quite eloquently by your colleague the Honorable Elena Kagan: ". . . candidates for public office accept large campaign contributions in exchange for the promise that, after assuming office, they will rank the donors’interests ahead of all others. As a result of these bargains, politicians ignore the public interest, sound public policy languishes, and the citizens lose confidence in their government." While listening to the politicking of the GOP's best and brightest for this election cycle, it seems that each position the candidates take, is a position positive to some corporate interest. Rick Santorum wants to abolish an appellate court; New Gingrich wants to be able to overrule the judiciary, and/or cut their funding; Rick Perry wants to end lifetime appointments; and Michele Bachman feels that Congress can tell the court what issues not to address. If only we could take all the money out of our politics (as they do in England), then candidates wouldn't make these strange bargains, and perhaps the judiciary wouldn't be such an inviting target.
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09:20 PM on 10/25/2011
cave mann35 - I agree. The corrupting influence of money in politics seems to be everywhere and it is only enhanced by corporations being allowed to infect the process.
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Jannsmoor
02:24 PM on 10/25/2011
At its heart, isn't the right wing objection that the rich cannot control the judiciary? If decisions were handed to the public, it would just become who controls the media and how much could some group pay to set the narrative, like it is now with our politics.
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Judge H. Lee Sarokin
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04:51 PM on 10/25/2011
Jannsmoor - I agree---the influence of money in politics is staggering and frightening. All the new Republican candidate tax proposals protect the rich and injure the poor and middle class.
03:25 AM on 10/26/2011
Your honor: The Republicans since the days of reagan have been for the rich and against the poor. Many of the christian right agree with that position too. They believe the haves deserve to have and the have nots ar lazy buns. Thecost to america is overwhelming. The damage done to america by a refusal to put money into universal single payer health care reflects the hostility of the rich and the right wing Christians, The law must be blind to the wealth or the poverty of those who must obey the law and those who advocate against a leveller field for society condone crime by fostering the conditions which make crime seem to be the only way to get by.
01:55 PM on 10/25/2011
The judicial branch is by far the most dangerous result of our Constitution. Even the founders feared the result, but did not agree on a different construciton.

Under its current construciton the Supreme Court is omnipotent. To paraphrase one of FDR's appointees, The Constitution says what we say it says. The 17th amendment is partially to blame, as justices are confirmed without regard to maintaining the States' sovereignty.

An amendment allowing for Congress to overthrow a SCOTUS decision with a 3/4 majority in both houses, or some variation thereof, could be considered.

Your definition of judicial activism is far too broad. I uderstand it to mean finding in the Constitution that which is not there, or attributing intent that never existed. These 2 things, along with the omnipotence of the SCOTUS, have essentially made the Constitution an interesting anachronism.
03:48 PM on 10/25/2011
You don't seem to understand that almost all of what courts do is interpret statutes; but that the law includes the constitution itself, and the common law back as far as it goes, ca 1215. You CANNOT talk about the constitution or law of the USA without knowing something of its history, much of which is conveniently catalogued at your handy county law library - and indeed, on the internet.

Once upon a time, I used to think, WTH, let them screw it up and come crying for help.

But that's not what happens - what happens if that they screw it up and blame it on Democratic witchcraft. You know, like evolution is "a theory that's out there."

These people in politics are the sort of morons who think their car is broken when it runs out of gas.
timber1647
It's either sadness or euphoria
10:47 AM on 11/10/2011
I believe that can be done by amending the Constitution which requires a 2/3s yea vote from both houses and a 3/4s yea vote from the States. That safeguard should be enough.
12:33 PM on 10/25/2011
Judge Sarokin's comment that Rick Santorum's suggestion that we abolish the 9th Circuit is both ridiculous and unconstitutional demonstrates a severe lack of Constitutional knowledge.

Although the suggestion is probably ridiculous from a practical point of view, it is clearly not unconconstitutional. There is no constitutional right to have X amount of lower or inferior courts i.e. there is nothing magical or constitutional about having 13 courts of appeal. Congress could decide to have 50 such courts or 5 or even none. As a practical matter they probably wouldn't reduce them because of the case loads involved. However, the only thing Congress can't remove by statute is the Supreme Court itself (the Constitution mandates a Supreme Court) and the judges. The judges themselves have, via the constitution, lifetime tenure unless impeached. But Santorum wasn't talking about removing the judges only the circuit.

Eliminating a circuit certainly wouldn't violate the seperation of powers (unless you think the judiciary should have absolute power) and would provide a gentle slap on the wrist that would fall short of the more draconian steps of eliminating judicial review or lifetime tenure.
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05:44 PM on 10/25/2011
jdstelecom - You don't think eliminating a circuit because Congress does not agree with its rulings is a violation of the Constitution and the separation of powers! I never said Congress doesn't have the power to add or eliminate circuits---just that it cannot do it for this reason---And what kind of a precedent would it be if Congress could eliminate those courts with which it disagreed.
05:11 PM on 10/28/2011
I think history shows most political acts are politically motivated, so that's hardly news.

But if I wanted to reduce the influence of the 9th circuit, I'd split it in 2 and try to pack it.

I think it would be hilarious if Obama agreed with Santorum, and did exactly that! Then you'd have 2 circuits full of judges who begin each paragraph with, "but on the other hand...", LOL!
timber1647
It's either sadness or euphoria
10:48 AM on 11/10/2011
A bad precedent.
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Mountain Man
12:10 PM on 10/25/2011
Thanks for giving me another reason to vote AGANIST every, Republican on my ballot. They have pegged the Crazy Meter. If they gave a rip about public opinion they would be behind Obama every step of the way.
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Fit2betied
Give Peace a Chance ☮
12:04 PM on 10/25/2011
The Republicans have been doing everything in their power to cripple the Judicial branch. People such as Newt Gingrich are suggesting treason because what they want to do is dismantle our government and rebuild it so the Congress has absolute power over government and the people.

The events of the last 3 years have proven to me that America's real enemies are from within. The people and groups who we should be watching and in some cases fighting are the very people elected to office. They have sold whatever power and influence they have to wealthy individuals and groups. This is true of both parties and until the influence of private money, special interests and lobbyists are removed from our political system it will not change.

OWS should be protesting the fact that it's legal to bribe elected officials in this country.
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12:14 PM on 10/25/2011
Fit2betied - I think they are more interested in controlling the judiciary rather than crippling it.
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Fit2betied
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12:33 PM on 10/25/2011
My statement is in regards to all of the Obama Judicial appointees blocked by the Republicans. Yes, they are trying to control the judiciary and with this tactic causing gridlock.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/06/obama-judicial-appointees_n_706590.html
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12:38 PM on 10/25/2011
I largely agree with that. They would ideally like to see implemented an invisible theory of jurisprudence that cites the Constitution when it helps them, yet licenses them to ignore the Constitution when it gets in the way.

Probably the most dangerous of these ideas is a growing belief that "biblical law" is a higher law than the Constitution. You can read such claims in their own words here:

http://www.icr.org/article/20528/228/
"[T]here is indeed a higher law than even that of the Constitution. The founding fathers called it “the law of nature and of nature’s God,” or “the laws of divine providence.” Studies of English jurisprudence (as codified particularly in the works of Blackstone and Rutherford) make it plain that the English common law was nothing more nor less than applied Biblical law."

The Constitution, in this dangerous theory, is not a shield against state-imposed religion but an *instrument* of it.

Their many ways ot twisting the Constitution and the courts to achieve antithetical ends is quite diabolical.
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TJHorne
Veritas Lux Mea
12:03 PM on 10/25/2011
Another important contributor to checks and balances is a free press, but when it comes to war, they've become the propanda arm of the government.
11:53 AM on 10/25/2011
Here's what we can do - scrap the entire constitution, and replace it with the United Insurance Company of America. Not many people are better shoppers or chiselers than insurance companies.

That lets people consolidate their complaints - they don't have to decide which to complain about - liberal judges, do-nothing congress, or socialist presidents. They can just complain about the "GD insurance company".

You get issued an insurance policy when you're born. You pay monthly, and then when something happens, you find out it's not covered. But you keep paying because you don't want to lose your coverage.

Sounds like a really good plan, eh?
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thecreeksedge
11:26 AM on 10/25/2011
An independent federal judiciary is absolutely critical to the long-term well being of this nation. It gives a measure of stability to the fundamental rights of our people and affords some protection from the wild political extremes that characterize the other two branches of the government. To remove that independence would jeopardize many basic rights of people whose lives do not blindly conform with popular sentiment. Of course, there are federal court decisions with which we can all disagree, but for the most part the judiciary has been a constructive force for the betterment of our society.

The Crazy Right Wingers just want to have an opportunity to impose their views on the entire society and resent any possible checks or balances that might thwart that goal.
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12:15 PM on 10/25/2011
thecreeksedge - Beautiful!
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TJHorne
Veritas Lux Mea
11:09 AM on 10/25/2011
Defenders of the Empire, enemies of the Constitution and the rule of law.
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IntelligentDiscussion
I chase the truth, not ideology.
11:00 AM on 10/25/2011
I think Newt had a point. And I think we need to think about it, I would recommend people look at his speech over the matter, he articulates it far better than I. But basically in summation.

Based on writings, quotes, and the Federalist papers one can conclude the founders intended the judicial branch to be the least powerful, not the most powerful. Think about it, If the supreme court rules 2 2=5 then unless another court over turns the ruling or congress amends the constitution, it is now the law of the land.

Whether you're liberal or conservative you it's hard to argue the court is not too powerful already.
11:23 AM on 10/25/2011
One of the 1st most basic rules of statutory construction is, READ THE STATUTE. Not the collateral commentary. If an author can't explain themselves in a statute, it's a good bet their commentary won't be any more reliable.

You do have an interesting point, that the authors didn't intend a specific pattern of checks and balances, but rather that the judiciary should be "least powerful". I guess it's too bad they didn't say that. Think about what could happen if a President declared war on the wrong country, and congress just went along because "we have to do something, preferably something really stupid".

What you mean is that judges are easy targets because they don't fling crap back. They don't have to - all they have to do is let you try to do a better job.

We already know that the Republican front-runner refuses to read 4 pages, so I guess we have to wait a couple of minutes before he proves what a complete fool he is.

How many pages can you read? Don't blame lawyers for being "too powerful" because they learned to read >3 pages - to paraphrase Cain, "if you're ignorant, blame yourself." I would add, if you're proud of your ignorance, you've got no room to whine about being pushed aside by people without a high school education who don't even speak the language, but at least know what they want and are willing to work for it.
10:12 AM on 10/25/2011
Did I miss something in civics class? I was taught that an independent judiciary was part of the checks and balances that was set up to protect against an overly powerful executive or legislative branch from running roughshod over the way the country was ruled. I expect the political bias of the courts to change from time to time depending on which party happens to be in power when appointmens are made, and I expect that I as an individual will not always agree with judgements that are made. That being said, I do NOT want their participation in government to be marginalized by either executive or legislative activism.
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09:27 AM on 10/25/2011
Actually, sir, I =do= believe that it must be up to the Congress, and to no one else, to "determine what is and what is not Constitutional," because the Constitution set up a Republic, not a Monarchy (not one ruled by a single person, nor one ruled by a Privy Council).

Although you served 17 years, until you chose to retire, even your term should have been strictly limited to, say, 12 years. After which you cannot serve as a Federal Judge anywhere, except possibly an 8-year term on the Supreme Court.

Senators and Congressmen, too, must have term limits, as must non-elected civil officers.

This isn't "American Idol," as you do in fact well know. What it is, is public accountability as well as a compulsory relinquishing of the reins of power.
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10:08 AM on 10/25/2011
Postscript:

This statement has absolutely nothing to do with you, nor with the wisdom nor the competence nor the judgment of you or your colleagues. Rather, it has to do with the fundamental observation that "absolute power corrupts absolutely." Whether that "corruption" occurs in the literal sense of truly criminal behavior (which behavior we do, in fact, see right now in the US Congress and elsewhere in utter defiance of Article 2 Section 4 Word 25), or simply in the natural trust in one's own judgment in preference to the collective opinion of your friendly neighborhood Legislative Body, the "corruption" occurs nonetheless.

This is why I fundamentally believe that the term of power of each and every government officer, in any capacity and in every one, must be limited by Time.

I also believe that judiciary decision-making should be subject to Legislative review. Judges do not make the laws. Judges also do not "make" the laws by virtue of "interpreting" them. For example, having declared that a law is contrary to, say, the Constitution, the Judge should not have the prerogative to say what happens next, but must remand the decision to ... the Legislature.

Yes, I am describing a sharp break from the traditions of jurisprudence, but I think it is the right thing to do.
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12:18 PM on 10/25/2011
Sundialsvc4 - But if we let the Congress decide whether its own actions are constitutional who will protect us from unconstitutional acts of Congress?
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12:32 PM on 10/25/2011
Isn't it interesting that the party that professes "limited federal government" wants to remove ALL the limits on the power of Congress?
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11:00 AM on 10/25/2011
...yet another example of why education is important, and Civics is vital.

In your Teabagger/Ann Rynd fantasy, the American dream would be dead, as "law" would be meaningless.

Because you are obviously ignorant, I will spell it out for you: the Judicial branch determines the scope and legality of laws. If people don't like a ruling, it is up to them to petition the LAWMAKING BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT (hint: Congress) to make a new law. The Executuve branch then enforces the laws. The Judicial branch, in turn, serves as a "check" on the Executive's power, to ensure they stay within the law.

If you cripple the Judicial, then there would be no check on either the Legistlative or Executive branches. There would be no review of law to invalidate flawed/illegal law. In essence all law would be above review. That would be awesome!

I put on a uniform once to defend my country. I would certainly defend it again against foolish children who wish to destroy it because they do not understand it (or hate the freedoms it provides).