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Judith Ruskay Rabinor Ph.D.

Judith Ruskay Rabinor Ph.D.

Posted: December 21, 2010 11:24 AM

In Praise of Exes

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I recently had dinner with three college friends I hadn't seen in decades, all of us now divorced. Before we knew it, we were talking about our exes. First, Ruth casually mentioned that she was looking forward to having lunch with her ex-husband; they speak frequently, not only about their two children who are now grown, but about old friends and family members. Laughingly she told us they still argue over current events. Julie jumped in, saying she wished she could talk to her ex-husband, whom she hasn't seen in years. Then Debbie "admitted" that following the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center she had called her ex-husband Tom. Touched by her call, he spent the weekend with her and the kids. His presence made her feel a little more secure and a new phase of their relationship began.

I glanced around the table as these stories were told. No one appeared a bit surprised. Neither was I. In the twenty five years since I've divorced, my ex-husband and I have become fond friends. Although I have been happily remarried for the past thirteen years, I still count my ex-husband as one of my most significant and long-term attachments. He was present when both our children were born. We sat shiva together when his parents died. He knew my mother in her more coherent days and my father when he was still alive. This is a history that cannot be replicated with anyone else.

In my therapy office, in conversations with strangers on airplanes, at parties and professional conferences, I hear story after story about caring friendships between ex-spouses. Certain stories linger. After my friend Ann divorced and remarried, when she learned that her new husband was embezzling her money, she called her first husband, an attorney, who came to her aid and helped to recover her money. Just yesterday, a newly divorced father told me in my office how he and his wife had been on incredibly hostile terms until their seven-year-old was seriously injured. When both parents took turns staying overnight at the hospital pediatric ward, a shared gratitude for their child's recovery restored warmth to their relationship.

I am continually amazed at how ex-spouses can behave with kindness and generosity to one another when the explosiveness of a divorce calms down. When children are involved there is a real motivation to establish a cooperative relationship; any psychologist will testify that how parents handle the divorce and treat one another afterward is a key indicator of how well the children will adjust. This is not new news. What has surprised me is that over and again I have learned that the relationship between exes often goes way beyond mere pleasantry in the mechanics of custody arrangements. The ex-spouses who choose to vacation together at Disneyland with their children and respective new spouses clearly enjoy one another person's company. I have seen how affection, caring and generosity can accumulate for decades after a marriage ends and produce a deep attachment. When my mother's elderly friend took in her cancer-ridden, long-divorced ex-husband and cared for him as he lay dying - she was acting from a much deeper emotion than obligation.

The truth is that ex-spouses get an undeserved bad rap. Stereotypes abound of the deadbeat dad and the money-hungry ex-wife. Popular culture would have us believe that every ex-husband is a jerk and every ex-wife is vindictive. While this is certainly accurate some of the time it is not the only role ex-spouses get to play. I suspect that there are plenty more empathic ex-husbands and caring ex-wives out there than meets the litigator's eye. Recent research shows that as a species, we humans are hard-wired for compassion and love. What's more, experiencing positive emotions is good for the heart and overall well-being. Many spiritual traditions teach that you don't necessarily have to feel kindly towards another person, but that if you behave kindly the feelings may follow. Divorce is as good a time as any-- perhaps better--to stretch one's self towards compassion, kindness, and caring. For yourself as much as for your ex.

 
I recently had dinner with three college friends I hadn't seen in decades, all of us now divorced. Before we knew it, we were talking about our exes. First, Ruth casually mentioned that she was lookin...
I recently had dinner with three college friends I hadn't seen in decades, all of us now divorced. Before we knew it, we were talking about our exes. First, Ruth casually mentioned that she was lookin...
 
 
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08:58 PM on 12/23/2010
My ex is an amazing person. My best friend. . . . married 25 years, no kids. He is family and always will be!
12:07 AM on 12/26/2010
Hi Tami
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Bertski
just a guy trying not to be part of the problem
05:53 PM on 12/23/2010
It seems that all of the people in this post - and most of those leaving comments - have situations where children are involved. Of course, it would be in the best interest of the children for the parents to at least maintain civility, if they are unable to be "friends."

What is the consensus on divorced couples who never had kids? Without such a compelling reason to interact, do many divorced, childless couples remain friends, or do most just go their separate ways?
12:18 AM on 12/27/2010
My ex and I did not have children but we stayed friends and remained in touch even though we eventually lived in different countries
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Brooklyn73
01:50 PM on 12/23/2010
I would also like to add, I wish my ex-hsuband well and wish him future success, but that does not mean I have to be his friend. He had my friendship and stepped on it. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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Brooklyn73
01:49 PM on 12/23/2010
I'll never be friends with my ex-husband. He is a pathological liar. I did right by our daughter by keeping my married name (for her sake) and allow him to visit with her...but you better believe it is a supervised visit. If your ex-husband is a normal person, then I can see being friends with him. But if your ex is a pathological liar who emotionally stabbed you in the back repeatedly, they do not deserve your friendship.
06:43 PM on 12/22/2010
In 1973, my parents had the friendliest divorce I've ever heard of. While the first few months were tough, within a year Mom was sewing buttons back on his shirts and reminding him of birthdays, and Dad was painting the house and trimming the hedges.

There was a "fake it 'til you make it" period, while hurt feeling subsided; but they did it for us, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for both of them. We have vacationed in Hawaii together, and Thanksgiving and Christmas include both my parents and their new partners.

The example that they set has allowed me to keep my ex-boyfriends as dear friends; appreciating the best aspects of their personalities while acknowledging that we aren't the right partners for each other.

Being civil (and even loving) is a choice, and it is almost always the best choice when there are kids.
03:44 PM on 12/22/2010
Me, my current husband, his ex-wife, my ex-husband, his new gf and my new in-laws all just went to Disney with our 4 kids (2 his, 2 mine). It wasn't my most fun vacation ever (due to the dynamics), but the kids had a blast. As a blended family, we have decided that we will all get along and do what is best for the children. We were not great as a married couple, but we are trying to be the best parents that we can be. Trying to explain to people (if we got chatting) who we all were was hilarious, I'm sure some people thought we were trying to prank them, but we thought it was funny, too.
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Sharon Zarozny
12:55 PM on 12/22/2010
You, your children, family and friends are so fortunate to have achieved a good divorce and it's great you've shared it so people know what is possible. Sadly, like in marriage, a good post-divorce takes two... and among divorce professionals there's a saying "as goes the marriage, so goes the divorce."

Wish we could find a way to help the courts understand an angry ex can reck a lot of havoc on the family left behind. Perhaps if we found a way of tempering the vengeful partner more families could move on as brilliantly as you have.

Any ideas?

Sharon Zarozny, Founder
www.brilliantexits.com
brilliantexits.wordpress.com
12:31 PM on 12/22/2010
My x is my best friend. Though he lives far away he takes care of our son and me, we talk weekly and have a lot of fun together and as a family when ever he comes to town. We depend on each other through the rough times and have found a special relationship that we both defend. We are blessed to have each other and our son.
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AmigaMan
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01:57 PM on 12/22/2010
Isn't that special. :-/
10:19 AM on 12/22/2010
I don't my parents remained the best of friends after they divorced and that was the example that I saw growing up. When my marriage fell apart after 10 years and two beautiful children, that was the model I wanted to live by. Was it easy in the beginning? Not at all, we agreed that we would always be civil in front of the children and make parenting decisions that were the best for them. Over time you heal, it becomes easier (at least in our case) to genuinely become friends. I most certainly recognize that we have a unique situation. Not every couple can do this. Your circumstances, upbringing and other personal beliefs play a part in this, but for me, after pledging undying love for someone, a lifetime of hating them just didn't seem right to me. Do we occasionally argue yes. Do we always approve of the others' decisions, nope. But we can be friends and parent together.

To the comment that if you can be friends, you could have made it work, clearly not the case. After divorce and healing, you can look at things from a different perspective. I can tolerate traits in some friends that I would not in a spouse. It's simply a different perspective.
09:41 AM on 12/24/2010
I wish more parents would remain civil in front of the kids. I remain married despite the numerous times I've been belittled and berated in front of mine. I can see how their respect for me has been severely reduced until I'm little more than the guy who pays the bills which keeps the fridge full and the TV on. If I were to become divorced, there wouldn't be any "civility" in front of the kids. What had been would continue, only with the additional anger from the divorce fueling the fury.
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chucknchar
09:23 AM on 12/22/2010
Usualy there is blame in so called no fault divorces but the bigger parent moves beyond this for the sake of the children, it wasn't easy. Let get one thing straight, its not always the man's fault, like the place of my employment, I knew of 5 men whose wife let them home with the kids as they explored their new found freedom
01:21 AM on 12/22/2010
My husband's grandparents were best friends following their divorce. He had no idea until he was older that most exes don't get along well. I've seen many couples who realize they do like each other once they realize that the pressure to be husband and wife is off. They can simply co-exist without wanting the other to be something they are not.
For some reason, this is easier to do when it's not your spouse. And there are other exes who, regardless of how much time has passed, they will not forgive, forget or move on. They continue to let the divorce be the story they identify themselves by.
I don't believe that the goal has to be for people to like each other following divorce, but if you have children, you really do need to make an effort to be civil given that you'll be at graduations and weddings and other family events together, no doubt.
09:47 AM on 12/24/2010
Marriage becomes difficult when people have preconceived notions as to how people are to behave once they are married. The pressure cited comes from attempting to meet these expectations, and the focus shifts away from "who we are and what we can become" to "how come you aren't who I expect you to be"? People should know themselves better before they begin to seek a partner, but few of us accomplish this prior to marriage. We then have little else but these societal legends to guide us as we stumble into married life. It is thus no marvel to me that the divorce rate is so high, and that not marrying is becoming much more accepted.
01:15 AM on 12/22/2010
I had to get a restraining order after my violent ex began stalking me after our breakup. I'm gonna have to say "no" to the "being friends" thing.
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Moxo
Our enemies are in the GOP.
12:33 AM on 12/22/2010
Per my wife whom I just asked.."NO".
10:11 PM on 12/21/2010
yep I saw it happened but someone did say I believed in miracles
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belle27
10:04 PM on 12/21/2010
Sure. Some people can be friends with their exes. But for the most part, if they are both capable of that, then they are both capable of working it out and staying together.
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GretchenMann
11:09 PM on 12/21/2010
You nailed it, belle27. I think it's an increasingly self-serving and narcissistic world, and couples often choose instant solutions to problems even when others (including their own children) are hurt.

One of my acquaintances recently left her husband for another man. She said her husband was "boring". She admitted that he was a very good father to their two small children, a good provider with an excellent income, didn't cheat, wasn't abusive, didn't use drugs, drink or even smoke. He's well educated and a very attractive man, but he wouldn't take her out enough, didn't like dancing, and she felt "like a princess in an ivory tower". She complained that he was a "nerd" because he enjoyed writing computer programs.

When I told a young (20-something) co-worker about this, she said, "Well, we only have one life, so we deserve to make it a happy one." Solipsism at its finest.

I wonder why they couldn't work out their problems (which actually seem minor) before devastating their little ones with the divorce. I just don't get it.
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akindependent
12:17 AM on 12/22/2010
And then there are those who keep trying to save a bad marriage and destroy the kids in the process. One shoe does not fit all.
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thebearschick
12:21 AM on 12/22/2010
her ex-husband sounds like everything my single girlfriends are looking for
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BlackCatBone
08:14 AM on 12/22/2010
I can think of a number of possibilities which can't be compromised on that could very easily end a relationship yet leave both parties able to respect each other and remain friends. Perhaps one has a religious conversion while the other isn't religious at all. The couple may have started out not wanting children but one changed their mind. Perhaps one realizes that the house in the country with the big yard and two car garage is suffocating them and they need to be in a city while city life would drive the other absolutely mad.