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Proposals of "Marriage"

Posted: 05/13/09 05:52 PM ET

The gay marriage initiative has been gathering an increasing head of steam, striking, respectively, hope and fear into the hearts of Americans. The arguments favoring marriage between members of the same sex (or gender) have generally invoked the principle of equal rights. Those opposed have maintained that gay marriage would destroy one of the major foundations of our culture.

The fact is, however, that gay marriage will be accepted not just because it reflects basic beliefs about individual rights, but because it is in harmony with the dominant cultural definition of marriage in America.

Marriage in American society involves both a set of legal arrangements and a cluster of cultural beliefs. One approach to providing most or all of the legal aspects of marriage to gay couples is to approve same-sex civil unions while withholding the "m" word. In the state of New Jersey, for example, there is no difference between the rights conferred in same-sex civil unions and the rights conferred by marriage, which in that state is currently restricted to cross-sex couples. More commonly, there are differences in the scope of rights between marriages and civil unions.

But what, aside from legal rights (which could be made identical for marriages and civil unions), is at issue with "marriage"? For some, it is a sacred bond linked to religious belief. But no one is arguing that there should be an end to religious weddings, and those wishing to have their unions blessed in this way would presumably continue to do so regardless of how secular, state-sanctioned "marriage" evolves.

We Americans, whatever our differences, generally view marriage as a relationship brought into being by "love" -- more specifically, sexual love. Indeed, this is the very reason that the term "gay marriage" is used, as opposed to the more accurately descriptive term "same-sex (or same-gender) marriage". As it happens, we do not inquire too closely into how many gay men and lesbians may be closeted in so-called "heterosexual" marriages, as long as their gender bona fides has been determined. "Gay marriage" is a more reliable term, since it is unlikely that large numbers of secret heterosexuals are hidden away in same-sex marriages. How many of these married folks -- straight or gay -- are still active sexual partners is another matter, and one that has provided continuing material to stand-up comics.

Whatever the trajectory of the sexual bond in a marriage, the "love" is expected to provide the groundwork for a relationship of mutual commitment and responsibility that ideally persists until death do the couple part (or at least for a respectably long period of time). Insofar as this is the sentimental foundation for marriage -- in fact, for American kinship more generally -- it makes as much sense for the partners -- or, for that matter, the co-parents -- to be of the same sex as to be of opposite sexes.

We can bring the question of gay marriage into even sharper cultural focus by looking at another case of same-sex marriage from the other side of the world, in a very different time and place. Anthropologists have long studied a practice, found in a number of traditional African societies, in which a woman marries another woman. What made this possible was that the roles of "husband" and "father" were based not on sexual and biological ties, but on property exchange -- that is, on "bridewealth" paid by the family of the "groom" to the family of the "bride". In cases where women were able to get access to the kinds of property generally held by men -- notably, cattle -- they could occupy the kinship statuses generally reserved to men. Thus, the female husband had rights to the domestic services of her "wife" and was the legitimate "father" of the wife's offspring, regardless of who the genitor might be. And it was the father who got to claim the child as a member of his (her) lineage.

Clearly, these woman-woman marriages followed a completely different cultural logic from marriage between lesbians in contemporary American society. The important point, however, is that each case of same-sex marriage makes sense within the cultural meaning of marriage in their respective societies. This also explains why marriage between two men would make the same cultural sense as marriage between two women in the American case, but not in the African cases, where it is, in fact, not found.

The timing of a successful gay marriage initiative in our society is clearly tied to the history of activism around the issue and the varying political responses to it. But the cultural backdrop against which these actions are playing out, which lends an air of inexorability to the process, is not only an ideal of transcending the forms of discrimination we find intolerable, but also our deepest hopes and dreams of what a marriage should be.

 
The gay marriage initiative has been gathering an increasing head of steam, striking, respectively, hope and fear into the hearts of Americans. The arguments favoring marriage between members of the ...
The gay marriage initiative has been gathering an increasing head of steam, striking, respectively, hope and fear into the hearts of Americans. The arguments favoring marriage between members of the ...
 
 
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10:44 PM on 05/13/2009
Don't forget about New Hampshire! The NH Gay Marriage bill is now before the Governor. Call the Governor at 603-271-2121 (anytime, 24/7) and tell him: "Please do NOT veto the marriage equality legislation. Let it become law."

If you know anyone living in New Hampshire ask them also to sign a petition at:

http://eqfed.org/campaign/petition_0906
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Romulus
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09:55 PM on 05/13/2009
I served in Vietnam. I can't imagine that if I was ordered to rape a child I would have done so. What is WRONG with those troops that did that in Iraq?!!!!!!
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Romulus
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10:01 PM on 05/13/2009
OOPS! Posted to wrong blog. Sorry.
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Romulus
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09:23 PM on 05/13/2009
Marriage is not a civil right, it’s a social institution. CJ Warren Berger got it wrong in Loving v. Virginia when he wrote: Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival. Humans existed long before the institution of marriage was invented and the race survived. In 2007, about 40% of all babies were born out of wedlock. It’s obvious that marriage is not fundamental to either our existence or our survival. Therefore, marriage is not a “basic civil right of man (humanity)”. Should same-sex marriages be recognized and be equal to opposite-sex marriages? That’s up to society since it’s a social issue, not a legal issue. Society has the right to determine what it accepts as a valid marriage, not the courts, or even the legislatures.
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midknightryder13
11:44 PM on 05/13/2009
Since a license in granted by the government and the government bestows certain benefits if one participates in this institution, how do you figure it's 'just' a social institution. If the government wasn't involved at all, you would have a point. But they are -- and that makes it MORE than a social institution.
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Paulied
06:58 PM on 05/14/2009
I guess since Romulus is more of a legal scholar than a member than a member of the US Supreme Court, I'll take his word on this.
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CornetMustich
07:07 PM on 05/13/2009
Kudos to New England, Iowa and DC.

Onward. It's time.

Cheers, Joe Mustich, Justice of the Peace
Washington CT USA

http://justicesofthepeace.blogspot.com
06:11 PM on 05/13/2009
The logic of marriage is that each human being needs a masculine and a feminine influence in order to grow up into a stable adult, and it's therefore in the interest of a stable society for such couplings to receive social and economic benefits. Marriage is an agreement therefore not just between the two people getting married but between them and the wider society. When there is only one gender raising children, chaos results, and good evidence of that lies in the fact that most criminals grow up without fathers; in fact, fatherlessness is the best predictor of every social pathology in existence.
08:59 PM on 05/13/2009
But the mere existence of gay people proves that false.

The problem with fatherlessness is not that there isn't someone with a Y-chromosome but rather that it is hard to raise a child when you are a single parent. By your logic, every child of divorce, every child of a widow or widower should be given up for adoption by a married couple. There hasn't been same-sex marriage in this country for years and yet there are plenty of children being "raised without a father." If your concern truly was "fatherlessness," you'd be fighting tooth and nail to take children away from their single mothers and put into "stable, married households."

But you're not, so let's not pretend that this is you caring about "fatherlessness." You're really scared that gay parents will have gay children, right?

Do you have any evidence that children of same-sex couples are in any way different from children of mixed-sex couples? Hint: When Hawaii was having their court case regarding same-sex marriage, they couldn't find any such information. Are you saying you know something they don't?
12:48 PM on 05/14/2009
I'm not saying anything that shouldn't be obvious to anyone who has ever had his own father or mother, namely that you can't create the necessary masculine influence in your upbringing by doubling up on mothers and you can't create the necessary feminine influence in your upbringing by doubling up on fathers. The point about fatherlessness is that since there are so few fathers around to do what fathers do best, namely exercise discipline on older kids, there is chaos in inner cities. If the problem were lack of mothers, there would be problems just as serious but of another sort. Both are needed, and that's the main reason for the existence of marriage as a system of social support.
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07:50 AM on 05/14/2009
First , if there was a requirement that married couples have and/or raise children, you would have an argument. However, there is no such requirement.

Second, the argument that children need a masculine and feminine influence in the form of being raised in a household consisting of a mother and father in the same house would mean that we should not be letting couples who have children to divorce. It would also follow that we require widows & widowers with children to remarry as soon as possible. And if they refuse to do so within a reasonable period, their children should be taken away and placed in a mother/father household.
12:50 PM on 05/14/2009
Creating laws for such situations would be madness. What's needed is simply maximum support for one type of arrangement, and that doesn't include homosexuals or unmarried heterosexuals.
05:49 PM on 05/13/2009
"In the state of New Jersey, for example, there is no difference between the rights conferred in same-sex civil unions and the rights conferred by marriage"

Incorrect. Those who are in mixed-sex marriages from another state can register for a "remarriage" with no restrictions. Those who are in a civil union from another state can register for a "reaffirmation of civil union," but only if the rights bestowed by that civil union in the other state are equivalent to marriage.

Once again, gay people have to jump through hoops straight people don't. There is nowhere in which a civil union is equivalent to a marriage. By New Jersey's own description, those who are in a civil union in New Jersey can't undergo a "reaffirmation of civil union" because New Jersey's civil unions aren't equivalent to marriage even for itself.

This is why "separate but equal" is unconstitutional. No matter how hard people try, separate paths always lead to separate outcomes. Yes, I realize that this is a tiny distinction, but the fact that there is any difference at all means there is precedence for treating the two differently in other areas and we have to fight this battle all over again.

The only way to ensure equality across the board, no exceptions, is to have a single contract for everyone.
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midknightryder13
12:01 AM on 05/14/2009
Unfortunately, Judith some of your information has been proven false. In NJ, they wrote a 'civil union' law for same-gender couples and specifically stated in the law that it was to be treated the same as marriage.
However, because 'marriage' is a LEGAL term, that proved problematic. Several companies were reported to the NJ Civil Rights Commission for NOT extending benefits to 'civil unioned' couples as they did to married ones. The companies explained that although they would like to do that -- they were only allowed to give them to 'married couples' and a civil union BY DEFINITION is NOT a marriage.
The NJ Civil Rights Commission had a study done -- it was in fact, required by the law creating civil unions. What did they find? That the civil unions law did not give the same beneftis and protections as LEGAL marriage. That's why NJ is considering a Marriage Equality bill.