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Posted May 15, 2008 | 11:53 AM (EST)



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Yesterday John Edwards announced his support for Barack Obama. The endorsement arrived at a good time for Obama since the inevitable nominee was badly defeated in West Virginia. The defeat did not alter the delegate count or his chances for victory. It did once again raise the underlying concerns that have followed him the past two months. The West Virginia results demonstrated that many working and middle class Democrats are not willing to commit to Obama. There are many reasons behind their resistance. These range from genuine enthusiasm about Hillary Clinton to ugly racial biases to concerns that Obama represents the Starbucks wing of the party.

There are some observers who think that Edwards offers a way out. With Edwards on the ticket, they say, John McCain would not be able to pick off the votes of "Reagan Democrats." His campaign focused on economic inequality. He comes from the kind of social background -- which he never hesitates to remind voters of while on the campaign trail -- that Obama needs to attract. Most important, he is southern.

Yet Edwards has shown several vulnerabilities as a running mate that Obama should consider before making his choice. The most obvious is that Edwards didn't do well for John Kerry in 2004. Kerry's loss was certainly not Edwards's fault. But Edwards certainly did not help. The worst moment came in his debate with Dick Cheney. The veteran Washington insider generally outflanked his more telegenic opponent. This time around, even when the economy got bad, his poverty-based campaign never got going.

The second vulnerability revolves around authenticity, a big issue in this campaign, as Clinton has discovered. Voters want someone who is straight with them. Despite his history, Edwards does not always come across as authentic. The media loves to point to his current wealthy lifestyle--from his $4 million + home to his $400 haircuts--which contradict his claims to be in touch with those suffering from economic insecurity. Even his record in the Senate was much more of a centrist Democrat, like Bill Clinton's, rather than Ted Kennedy. Indeed, his decision to offer the endorsement only after Obama's victory seemed inevitable offers just one more example for his critics.

While Mitt Romney's greatest asset was that he looked like a president, Edwards' greatest problem is that he looks like a senator. When the Democrats face a candidate who has a powerful life story as a prisoner of war, they need compelling narratives of their own--they need someone voters can believe in.

The authenticity issue is not just a problem for Edwards, but could be a problem for Obama. One of the big questions is what does Obama really stand for? There are questions about his beliefs and his alliances as seen with his "bitter" remark and his ties to Reverend Wright. To have someone on the ticket who could easily be painted as an "elite" liberal (and trial lawyer) would be a problem.

Finally, there is the issue of experience. Obama dodged this issue in the campaign, turning Clinton's experience against her. But the issue is still out there and it will be more salient in the fall when he faces a veteran senator. To choose another young senator with relatively modest political experience would not give the Democratic ticket what it needs.

Edwards has a lot of virtues, but serving as a running mate is not one of them. Democrats have seen that show before and they might want to think twice before asking for a rerun.


Julian E. Zelizer is a professor of history and public affairs at Princeton University. He is the co-editor of Rightward Bound: Making America Conservative in the 1970s (Harvard University Press). He is currently writing a history of national security politics since World War II that will be published by Basic Books.

 
 

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- burnt See Profile I'm a Fan of burnt permalink

"It did once again raise the underlying concerns that have followed him the past two months."

If you mean that there are segments of our population that are susceptible to hard-core pandering and appeals to fear... then I would have to agree. But those concerns that have followed him the past two months, are the same concerns of a Democratic Party that is systematically being divided and damaged by a self-serving power addict who will do anything to get her next fix. We all suffer at the hands of "people" like that.

Clinton lost. Period. Past time for her to leave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 05/15/2008
- DennyCrane See Profile I'm a Fan of DennyCrane permalink

I agree that Edwards would not be a good pick. He didn't help Kerry in 2004 and except for being white and more appealing to working class whites, he doesn't help Obama either. The ugly truth is that working class white and older whites just can't accept a black person on the ticket, even if he were number 2. Having a white person on there won't help. For those people, the ticket needs to be all white. So those voters will go to McCain. But I'd bet those voters will go to McCain even if Hillary were the nominee. Take race out of the question and sexism rears its ugly head. And Archie Bunker is more likely to vote for a white man than a white woman. What Obama needs is someone with experience, perhaps a governor. He'll probably need someone with foreign policy experience since he has none. And might even need a female running mate to appease all those women who were dreaming of a woman President. Edwards fails all these tests. A male Senator with about the same experience as Obama. Edwards has already hinted that he'd rather be Attorney General, which I think would be great for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 05/15/2008
- Researchguy66 See Profile I'm a Fan of Researchguy66 permalink

I don't know that he would be a great pick for attorney general...has Edwards ever held a prosecutor's job? Has he ever managed a large staff, nonetheless a very large arm of government? I'm not sure a smile is enough. After all, even Gonzalez could smile.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 05/15/2008
- Researchguy66 See Profile I'm a Fan of Researchguy66 permalink

A VP slot was exactly what Edwards was waiting for and he wasn't disappointed. Truth is that Obama needs him to avoid having Hillary foisted on him by the party anyway. They think he can attract the angry, bitter, "racist" voters. How soon the lessons from 2004 are forgotten.

I'm still hoping McCain will choose Hillary for VP. Then she could have her revenge on the Dem party and Obama and Edwards would be as irrelevant as Dukakis and Mondale for good...bye bye!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 05/15/2008
- KillTheMessenger See Profile I'm a Fan of KillTheMessenger permalink

I think for the experience piece we can just refer to the results of putting people as "experienced" as Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld in their positions. That worked out really well for us and the Iraqis, did it not? Do I really need to give more examples?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 05/15/2008
- EngineerBill See Profile I'm a Fan of EngineerBill permalink

I'll be happy with whomever Obama picks so long as it isn't Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 05/15/2008
- engineer68 See Profile I'm a Fan of engineer68 permalink

Edwards has been there before and asking him to take second place again is shameful. Offer him Attorney General or Health and Human Services.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 05/15/2008
- anon004 See Profile I'm a Fan of anon004 permalink

I was an Edwards supporter, but I don't think he would be a good choice for VP. I'll set aside aside the blog's parroting of the Republican talkng points against Edwards because they're just silly (I always thought he must have been really scandal-free if all the opposition could come up with was crticism of his HAIR.) First of all, I'm not sure he wants it. I received an appeal for funds from Edwards the other day for a scholarship fund he has created for poor kids in a rural county of NC. So, I think it's more likely that he is looking for another way to serve than being VP. The other thing is that after the disasterous current administration, I can't see any candidate giving a VP much power. So, why would Edwards want that? I think Obama is going to have a tough time finding a VP if he listens to the media blather or the "conventional wisdom" of the Party. They wil tell him he needs someone with foreign policy experience (like a long-term senator, such as Joe Biden), and also executive experience, like a governor. He's been pretty good (and, as a result, successful) because he hasn't been inclined to listen to these so-called experts. Actually, Bill Richardson would fulfill both those criteria, but then the "experts" would ask where the white guy was (because we are supposedly not "ready" to have a presidential ticket without at least one white guy).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 05/15/2008
- LizzyTish See Profile I'm a Fan of LizzyTish permalink

Right. But I think a cabinet or other high position is obvious....leading the charge against poverty and whatnot - no?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 05/15/2008
- SteveClements See Profile I'm a Fan of SteveClements permalink

All reasons why Kathleen Sebelius should be the VP. She has a great deal of actual executive experience, an early supporter of Obama, a Democrat popular in the most Republican of Republican states, Kansas, daughter of former governor of Ohio. Having her on the ticket demonstrates the authenticity of the Obama new politics, and puts a woman next in line for the Presidency. NOW IS THE TIME! Not to have a woman on the ticket sends the message to women that they will have to wait at least another 16 years. Wrong message to send. Obama has the opportunity to unite all the progressive forces and to build a new politics that will continue on in the future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 05/15/2008
- holyhandgrenaid See Profile I'm a Fan of holyhandgrenaid permalink

The problem with Sebelius is that while she fills several of the necessary criteria (woman, white, governor) she still leaves Obama with the problem of foreign policy experience. Unfortunately, there isn't anyone who fills all the criteria. Sebelius and Napolitano fill the most criteria, however to get the foreign policy experience while keeping governor, he would have to choose Richardson (who, of course, costs him the woman and white requirements). This will be a very difficult decision for Obama, and there isn't any way to cover all his bases. The trick will be to choose someone who fills as many as possible (being governor, IMHO, is the most important in my view). So despite their variable shortcomings, Sebelius or Napolitano seem to be the least square pegs to fill a very round hole.

That said, I love Edwards, I voted for him in the NH primary back in January, just as I voted for him in the 2004 primary. He belongs in Obama's administration, be it as Attorney General, or Secretary of Health and Human Services. Either/or, as long as hes there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 05/15/2008
- Siryn See Profile I'm a Fan of Siryn permalink

Yes but the gains may not actually be there if he can get Kansas (hometown son) anyway without her on the ticket. I would suggest Janet Napolitano of Arizona to put Arizona into play.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 05/15/2008
- 23000Days See Profile I'm a Fan of 23000Days permalink

While they fill the same qualifications, Sebelius would, in the end, be the better choice for the larger picture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 05/15/2008
- Countess See Profile I'm a Fan of Countess permalink

I tend to agree with this analysis even though I like John Edwards. The problem is that choosing an old line DLC type to go with is even worse because these are the very people blocking change and to select from Hillary Clinton's new coalition of neocon and racially insensitive democrats would be madness. I like like Jim Webb but I cannot be 100 percent sure he is the right candidate so we should let Obama and his people reflect on this important decision.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 05/15/2008
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