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Alternatives To College: Succeeding Without Higher Education

Posted: 01/24/2012 3:54 pm

My late father had a collection of mugs on his dresser from all the universities he and my mother, their three children and our spouses attended. He could have sipped his morning joe from a Princeton mug, or one from Stanford, Harvard, The University of Pennsylvania, Northwestern, Ithaca College, or The University of Rochester. Our family has amassed two PhDs, two MBAs, two master's degrees and a CPA. School was what we did, and we did it well.

I don't write about this to boast. I write about this as I ask you to imagine how I felt when one of my sons decided not to go to college. Any college. I ask you to imagine how my courageous son must have felt telling us "It's not that I won't go to college, it's that I can't."

As is the case with many families today, college attendance was a given in our household, like brushing your teeth or taking out the trash. Our kids were free to ask why we expected them to do these things, but their approval of our reasoning was irrelevant to us. They had to do what they had to do, and college was at the top of our to-do list. If help was needed to achieve this goal, my husband and I were always available to help.

Help was desperately needed for our middle son, Andrew. Diagnosed with severe ADHD and learning disabilities at a young age, school was torture for him, except for the socialization part, at which he excelled. My son suffered no end of criticism and ridicule from teachers throughout his secondary school education. One even called him stupid.

As concerned parents, we went on overdrive trying to turn Andrew into the kind of student we "knew" he could be. We put him in private school where classes were smaller. We spent a fortune on tutors and psychologists. We medicated him so he could focus at school, but he was a zombie with no appetite the rest of the time. We hired a college counselor to help him with the excruciating process of applying to colleges that accept kids with his unimpressive GPA, unimpressive being a euphemism for horrifying. We did everything we could think of but allow him be him.

One day, about six weeks before he was due to arrive at college, he asked my husband and me to have lunch with him, and, over burgers he dropped the bomb. We had a decision to make and it was one that had to be made in a split second. We could register extreme disappointment and push him one more time as we had pushed him all of his life, or we could accept his decision and by accepting that, we could accept him for the smart, funny, loving young man he is. We chose to do the latter.

Andrew did not become the belly-scratching, gum-chewing lout many people unfairly visualize when thinking about those who forgo a college education. Au contraire. He obtained a license to sell commercial real estate, found a job in a reputable firm and made a success of himself. That job led to another, and he is now thriving in New York City, one of the largest corporate real estate markets in the world. Did I mention that EVERYONE likes him?

We are blessed that Andrew doesn't hold his childhood against us. In between all those tutoring and therapy sessions there were family vacations and a whole lot of soccer and basketball and baseball. I suppose that counted for something.

President Obama, for whom I voted and for whom I will vote again, wants to raise America's college graduation rate to 60 percent, a noble goal to be sure, but I believe an impossible one. Money and room are the two factors most often cited as the barricades to success. They are huge factors. But there is another obstacle to achieving this goal, a personal and unquantifiable one. Not everyone is cut out for college.

Linda Lee, in her book, "Success Without College" writes, "Here is who belongs in college: the high-achieving student who is interested in learning for learning's sake, those who intend to become schoolteachers, and those young people who seem certain to go on to advanced degrees in law, medicine, architecture, engineering, and the like. Here is who actually goes to college: everyone."

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 25 percent of college graduates are currently in jobs that do not require a college degree.

Charles Murray, political scientist and scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, writes in the Chronicle of Higher Education "It has been empirically demonstrated that doing well (B average or better) in a traditional college major in the arts and sciences requires levels of linguistic and logical/mathematical ability that only 10-15 percent of the nation's youth possess. That doesn't mean that only 10-15 percent should obtain more than a high school education. It does mean that the four-year residential program leading to a BA is the wrong model for a large majority of young people."

Of freshmen at four-year colleges who graduated in the bottom 40 percent of their high school classes, two-thirds won't graduate from college even if given eight-and-a-half years.

Dropout rates are ridiculously high, particularly for public universities. Only 33 percent of freshmen entering the University of Massachusetts in Boston graduate within six years. The economist, Mark Schneider refers to colleges with these dropout rates as "failure factories," and they are the norm. While American high schools graduate about three quarters of their students in four years, American colleges only graduate 50 percent in six.

A large number of our young people are wasting valuable time and money in college when they could be learning a trade, working as apprentices, becoming entrepreneurs, or working in community service. Increasingly, large companies today offer programs to teach employees the skills they need to perform in the jobs for which they are hired. But young people are told over and over again by politicians, the media and their own families that failure to attend college means failure to thrive.

It is true that college graduates generally earn more over the course of their lives than those without diplomas. But our materialistic culture has pushed our youth into what can be for some an agonizing four-year ordeal that can, in the long run, lead to failure anyway. For those who don't love to learn, going to college is simply about earning potential. But even that is likely to change.

If current projections are correct, my six-month-old granddaughter will cost her parents $500,000 for a degree from a private university. The same degree from a public school will cost $150,000 if she can manage to be cherry-picked from the throngs of students who will vie for an insufficient number of slots in lower-priced institutions. A cost/benefit analysis will become ever more crucial for every student as time goes on. Even if jobs for graduates pay more, will they pay enough over a lifetime to justify the debt most students will incur?

While we strive to build an educated workforce, we must recognize that those who don't meet higher education norms are equally deserving of the training required to make them employable. We must provide top-notch vocational training. We must support community college programs that prepare students for a wide range of jobs in areas that do not require a four-year college degree.

Would I be happy if my son had graduated from college? Of course. But it wasn't to be, and I won't write him off as a failure. I can't. He's too successful.

Until evolution produces humans with perfectly coiffed hair, we will need haircuts. We will probably always need to have our cars repaired and our computers updated. For the foreseeable future, women will need mammograms. And as long as people work, we will want good take-out.

Believe it or not, there are plumbers who can afford to take their families on vacation. Computer technicians own shops and earn more than some lawyers who work for other people. And some young men with smarts and learning disabilities can sell office buildings. I wish my two degrees could have taught me that before my son did.


 
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05:37 PM on 02/23/2012
I believe your definition of college is limiting. College should be interpreted as post-secondary education (any kind - certificate, diploma, 2 or 4 year degree). Your son received education after high school to become a realtor. This is the important piece. You need some form of education past high school to be able to obtain and maintain a living wage job.
01:51 AM on 01/28/2012
You still have more opportunities going to college.
Knowledge is power!
Not everyone wants to a be a plumber. -.-
Not everyone will make it being an entrepreneur. -.-
College is that back up plan in case what happened first doesn't work out.
Good luck.
Unless of course you wanna be stuck working at target for $ 10 a hour where they don't let you move up without a college degree.
05:11 PM on 01/27/2012
I think as a society we need to start valuing workers based on what they know, not how many degrees they've obtained. As a hiring manager, I would prefer someone with experience in the field over someone with a college degree. I am a college dropout and I do quite well for myself. I also don't define myself by how many framed certificates I have on the wall, I define myself by the quality of the work I do. I have been told many, many times that my lack of degree will prevent me from moving up in certain companies, and I say that any company who values pieces of paper more than hard workers needs to take a second look at how they run their business. This is an excellent article and something that more people need to think about. Are we hiring someone because they graduated from college, or are we hiring someone because they are the most able to do the best job? We are so consumed with titles and appearances that a lot of incredibly smart, talented, and creative people are completely overlooked, or treated as second-rate citizens because they didn't choose the conventional path.
02:05 PM on 01/27/2012
Learning to think critically, communicate effectively, and respond nimbly to job market fluctuations aren't skills that should be reserved only for those for whom the hard work of obtaining a college or university education comes relatively easily, or who require a BA in order to enter a professional or academic advanced degree program.
11:17 PM on 01/26/2012
College was a great experience but nothing can surpass the skills I have learned in the real business world. I started my business in college and I can guarantee that there is no degree program that can teach what I have learned in the past 10 years!

David Diaz
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08:28 PM on 01/26/2012
I have degrees in mechanical engineering and software engineering. I work as a designer in a engineering office / machine shop. I work with many people that never went to college. They are machinists, plumbers, and welders. They are some of the most skilled and competent people I know. They have spent their years developing skills that literally take a lifetime to learn. In order to build a product that satisfies a customer we all have to work together. I never think of myself as better than anyone because I went to college. I went because that is where I could learn the things I needed to know. My coworkers went to trade schools and vendor training to learn how to do the things they need to know.

I think this all came about because a long time ago two types of people went to college. Those that were going to learn a profession. And those who came from wealthy families and went for a classical liberal arts education. The professionals treated college as an investment. They were paying money in order to get knowledge that would offer them a good living later. The wealthy thought of it as a luxury. Either way both groups would later go on to be successful.

People saw this and wrongly thought that college was a guarantee of a good future. Then colleges took advantage of this and let people in to take classes that would never be marketable. It's like the sub-prime mortgage.
VA Jill
Retired RN, Army mom. Bring the troops home!
07:30 PM on 01/26/2012
I was raised to think that college was a given, and I was pushed to attend right out of high school (I wanted to take a gap year). I failed miserably and was unhappy. I took a year off and went back, did better but still wasn't sure what I wanted so dropped out again. I went back years later, after I had a husband and 3 kids, and graduated magna with a degree in nursing. Of my 3, one could not qualify (he's a high-functioning autistic with academic problems), one went for a semester and then elected to enlist in the army, where he's been ever since, and the other couldn't go at the time because her father refused to pay anything toward her tuition. She is now in college studying elementary education and maintaining a 3.8 GPA....with a husband and 2 kids. College is not for everyone, but everyone should have the opportunity to go to college IF and WHEN they want.
11:07 PM on 01/26/2012
Well said.
02:30 PM on 01/26/2012
Totally agree. I raised my kids to think that college was just a given. You HAD to do it. My oldest son struggled in high school and struggled even more in his first two years of college. I finally listened.......and helped him find an occupation that was right for him.......without a college degree.
01:51 PM on 01/26/2012
Good advice, considering the cost/value of higher ed. Take a look at this piece from a former dean/provost. Interesting read: http://goo.gl/iGxIJ
12:50 PM on 01/26/2012
I think this is an unfortunate sentiment that is growing and is finding support both among anti-intellectuals and those who should know better. College isn't just about filling your brain with course materials that will be directly related to the career you go to after graduating.

For many, going to college is a profoundly broadening experience that introduces them to a world outside their own. It is also a place that social networks are created. Large contributing factors to success stem from who you know and going to college provides introductions to people who can be very important later on, even in unrelated fields.

While I try to ignore most of what comes out of the AEI, the fact that only 10-15% of the nation's youth possess those necessary skills tells me that we need to do more for education at those early levels than anything else.

I think it's great that the author's son was able to become successful without a college degree but he also came from a highly educated family which certainly has its advantages.

Are there affluent children who are unsuited to college? Sure. But for many young people the economic barriers are very large and cause even the high-scoring low-income students from completing college at rates similar to low-scoring high-income (http://bit.ly/x3Kmrj). This is not because College is too accessible as authors like Ms. Kasdin and her friends at AEI have been arguing.
09:28 PM on 01/26/2012
I don't think she's arguing against college per se, and she seems to still view it as the default option for her other kids. You're right that college is more than just career training, but even so, it's just not for everybody. For the money you're spending, you should be getting something out of it. If the kid is failing out and miserable, s/he's not broadening any horizons or doing anything to help advance a potential career. The kid in the article is not only monetarily successful, but he seems to have friends, connections, and genuinely enjoying life. Just as there are ways to succeed financially without a degree (albeit through very hard work), there are many ways to broaden your horizons outside of academia.
Yes, we should be encouraging more people to attend and complete college, but it will never be the right path for everyone. Some people- who can be very bright, by the way- aren't cut out for academics, and parents/middle-class society shouldn't freak out if those people opt out of college; they should be encouraged to get the kinds of things they'd get out of a traditional college experience through other means.
10:33 PM on 01/26/2012
I get what you're saying, but I think you have to look at her article in the ecosystem of the education reform debate that is taking place. There is a sinister undertone throughout the "you don't need college" team that is a two pronged attack. On the one hand they are saying you can be successful without college just look at Huey, Dewie, and Lewie (people who have opted not to attend college but often have supportive family networks/resources backing up their decisions). The other is directed at government to reduce aid to higher education and prevent anything that would control the skyrocketing costs of a college degree.

I think for every success story like Ms. Kasdin's son, there are plenty of counterpoints from people like me who did attend a 4 year college at great cost and debt, studied one thing but am now working in a completely unrelated field. Was my degree worth the tuition and debt? Probably not if you only look at what I learned in my classes. Could I have the job I have today without it? I can say with near certainty that I could not.

Children of upper-middle class parents have a lot of options and their pathway to success is not necessarily reproducible by those with less means and less connected families. Articles like these give comfort to those who would gut public support for education (primary, secondary, and higher ed).
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10:35 AM on 01/26/2012
I couldn't agree more. I also come from a family of fancy degrees, graduated cum laude from a fancy university and had no idea what to do when I got out because all I knew how to do was get good grades. College is just not a feasible option for so many people. I also think taking a break between high school and college -- to work, apprentice, volunteer, etc. -- would help many develop life skills and have a better idea of what to do before throwing money at the wrong degree.
10:19 AM on 01/26/2012
Thank you for this! My husband also has severe ADHD and has an IQ in the gifted range, but never did well in school. In both our families everyone has professional degrees. He actually went to college for 3 semesters and then dropped out due to his low GPA. High school was a joke and he managed to pull off As and Bs doing very little work and had near-perfect SAT scores, so he got into a good State school, but found the unstructured time college and the need to actually put in some work to be insurmountable. He found a job as an IT technician for minimum wage. However, because he is very bright and had taught himself code and programming in various languages, he quickly worked his way up in the ranks. He gave it his all so that when he decided to move on, his lack of degree didn't matter, as he'd proven himself in the first company. Now he heads the IT department at a large law firm and makes more than I do (I'm an attorney at a small law firm).
The caveat is that you have to work twice as hard as someone with a degree in order to prove your worth. A degree is usually proof enough to a potential employer that you have at least half a brain and some organizational/time management skills; no degree means that you need some other way to prove that, and ittakes incredibly hard work.
10:00 AM on 01/26/2012
Let's hope that this is the beginning of a movement. The time is right to re-examine the efficacy of all teenagers heading to college. We need to do a better job with our high schools and our technical training and focus on worker readiness. College is right for many, but not for all. I natter more on it here: http://heresheisboys.com/2012/01/11/a-higher-education-wake-up-call/
09:47 PM on 01/25/2012
This is so important! As a teacher, I wish the traditional education system had more value, but it's all the other stuff that really sets you up for success for the real world!
10:32 AM on 01/26/2012
Interesting, how she seems to ignore community colleges and their role in career training and that fact that hair stylists, mechanics, and computer technicians usually need some sort of postsecondary education. Also if 25% percent of those with a college degree are in jobs that don't require a degree, did they got those position over someone who didn't have a degree?
11:28 AM on 01/26/2012
If you retread you will see that I don't ignore community colleges at all. In fact I strongly suggest we support them as well as vocational schools.