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If Only We Could Edit the Bible

Posted: 09/24/2012 9:06 am

I have often wondered--quietly and usually to myself--what would happen if we could edit the Bible. After all, textbooks get edited and publishers bring out new and improved versions that are more in tune with how things are, instead of how things were. Wouldn't it be good if some ecumenical committee could go through the Old Testament and take out all the language about stoning people to death for breaking various rules? Or maybe soften that passage where the Psalmist talks about bashing the heads of the babies of his enemies against the rocks? We could also fix some of those New Testament misquotes of the Old Testament.

Suggesting this is heretical, of course, but it seems to me that it would be better, in some ways at least, to edit the Bible than to ignore it (as we do when it speaks of stoning or divorce), or to reinterpret it beyond all recognition (when we suggest that social justice is anti-Christian), or to selectively lift out phrases that serve our selfish interests (when we preach that God wants us all to be rich but first we have to donate to a televangelist). An editorial process would at least be upfront about what was going on.

This problem is especially acute for Protestants who don't have a tradition of companion theological reflection--what the Roman Catholics call the magisterium--to place the Bible in a larger context informed by ongoing reflection and dialog with our changing understanding of the world. In extreme--but broadly accepted--cases, we hear claims that the literal statements of the Bible trump all other forms of knowledge, even in science. By these ancient lights, the world is ten thousand years old and humans were contemporary with dinosaurs.

The "science" in the Bible poses especially difficult problems that call out for editing, or at least supplementary reflection. I put the word in quotes because there really is no "science" in the modern sense in the Bible--science was born in the 17th century--but the Bible, like most ancient documents, does refer to the natural world. And when it does, it creates serious problems for those millions of Christians who want to interpret it literally, or are unsure how the interpretative exercise works.

The creation story in Genesis, to take the most important example, is embedded within an ancient worldview that contains primitive scientific ideas that we have rejected. The account says, for example, that a great dome or "firmament" resides in the sky and holds back the waters that fall as rain. The stars are attached to this dome. It states that humans were contemporary with all the animals, which would include dinosaurs that we know went extinct long before we arrived. The first verse of the Bible - "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" -- claims that the earth was created at the same time as the "heavens." We know, however, that the universe is billions of years older than the earth. Humans were created within a few days of all other life-forms according to Genesis, but we know, for example, that life existed for billions of years before we arrived on this planet.

Many biblical ideas don't fit with our contemporary scientific understanding. Unfortunately, as we have seen all too often through the previous century and into the present, many Christians insist that we have to accept all the details of the biblical story of creation. The Creation Museum in Kentucky contains, among its many exhibits, beautiful dioramas of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, with friendly dinosaurs looking over their shoulders--a delightfully impossible scene, but one implied by the Genesis story.

Millions of Americans love the strange story told in the Creation Museum. Polls show that about half of all Americans--and most evangelicals--accept these ideas. However, young people raised to believe this story are leaving the church in droves, according to recent surveys, when they discover, usually in college, just how untenable these views really are.

In my newly published Seven Glorious Days (http://www.amazon.com/Seven-Glorious-Days-Scientist-Creation/dp/1557259283/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1347921049&sr=1-1&keywords=seven+glorious+days) I explore this question of what the Genesis story of creation would look like, if we updated its ancient science to match what we know today. Interested readers can engage the subject on at Patheos.com (http://www.patheos.com/Books/Book-Club/Karl-W-Giberson-Seven-Glorious-Days.html)

 
 
 

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TheWM
aka The Wrong Monkey
11:42 AM on 10/01/2012
"Wouldn't it be good if some ecumenical committee could go through the Old Testament and take out all the language about stoning people to death for breaking various rules? Or maybe soften that passage where the Psalmist talks about bashing the heads of the babies of his enemies against the rocks? We could also fix some of those New Testament misquotes of the Old Testament."

So you would rather pretend not to know what your religion is than stop believing in it. There's a lot of that going around.
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wbthacker
Can YOU pass the Turing Test?
02:35 PM on 09/25/2012
"Suggesting [that the Bible should be edited) is heretical, of course"

But why? At some point 2000+ years ago, every word of the Bible was written by human authors, and you can bet they edited those books repeatedly before settling on the form we have today. Bible scholars have even identified different groups of editors who contributed to the Pentateuch and traces of their editorial decisions (such as including two different accounts of Creation). Why would editing done by an unknown religious tribal zealot in the Middle East 2000 years ago be any closer to God's truth than editing by a modern scholar?

I hear the answer: "The Bible was inspired by God, so those old writing aren't just the words of men." What, God can't inspire people anymore? Did he lose that magical power when he gave birth to Jesus or something?

Modern Christians accept that God's ability to inspire also covers the people who:
- assembled the New Testament ca 300 AD
- translated the books from Hebrew and Aramaic to every other language
- created the King James and more modern versions

It seems that the Bible is like laws and sausages -- people like them, but nobody wants to see them being made.

I think this is because the Bible only seems authoritative if its exact origin is both ancient and mysterious. Because its authors can't be identified we can pretend they were different from every other human.
01:13 PM on 09/25/2012
And here is the truth behind the issue:
"After all, textbooks get edited and publishers bring out new and improved versions that are more in tune with how things are, instead of how things were."
Yes, change the books to support whatever the Social Agenda of the age is pushing...rather than the intent of the books being education.
So you would like to edit out things like "bashing in heads" and "stoning;" except those things did happen in history. Other texts and tablets of the period tell us so...but often not why. To edit them out of the Bible for the sake of 'modern culture' does a dis-service to the historical record.
And this may well be one of the reasons our schools are failing today. For the sake of political expediency we edit our books; dumb them down; rather than stick to the facts of the subject matter.
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wbthacker
Can YOU pass the Turing Test?
03:10 PM on 09/25/2012
"To edit them out of the Bible for the sake of 'modern culture' does a dis-service to the historical record."

The Bible isn't exactly a historical record. Too heavily fictionalized; it's like calling the movie "300" an historical account of the Battle of Thermopylae. In any case, the creation of a new edition doesn't make all the old ones disappear from the record. So fear not, the head-bashing won't be forgotten. It just won't be *revered* as a sign of God's love.
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KrautMan
Carpe jugulum
11:22 AM on 09/25/2012
I don't get it. If the 'science' in the bible is iron age nonsense (which it is) then that book is clearly not based on the words of some omniscient god, so which purpose is served by editing it?
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10:22 AM on 09/27/2012
or was it written in the bronze age based on stone age traditions?
I get hassled for saying it was a stone-age god, but then I doubt that Abraham actually invented someone new, many of the cultures in that area at that time had similar religions and Abraham seems to have reworked them.
The story of Isaac points to a previous and almost universal set of religious reasonings that are clearly stone-age in origin.
Modern revisionism might be necessary to maintain a belief in God but it does not make that belief true, better to err on the side of caution rather than wake up someday and find that your outlook is based on stone-age fears and subsequent revisionist propaganda, but deep down, who dosen't suspect it.
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shatterkane
My microbio has become sentient.....Hi
07:16 PM on 09/29/2012
You have one of the best avatars.
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whirlpool
founder walnut tree congregation
11:07 AM on 09/25/2012
I went through the Bible three times looking for science. There is none--no equations, no data tables, no graphs, no chemical formulae, no theories, no diagrams, no references to scientific papers, no X-rays of the hand of god. I was really disappointed. What kind of a science book lacks graphs.
10:48 AM on 09/25/2012
This is strange, considering that the Bible has in fact changed over time. For example, the King James Version is closest to the original Greek. I know there are plenty of literalists out there, but I personally find much of the teaching in the scriptures symbolic. For example, it's possible that God created the world in seven period of time using evolution. Call me heretic if you want, but what really matters in the scriptures (for the religious) is that we learn to have faith in Christ. Thanks for listening.
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KrautMan
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11:09 AM on 09/25/2012
"For example, it's possible that God created the world in seven period of time using evolution."

No, it is not possible that God used evolution to create anything he had in mind a priori, neither is a god necessary for that process.
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CohibaBlend
12:42 PM on 09/25/2012
Please explain your statement that "it is not possible that God used evolution to create anything he had in mind a priori." If God is God and wanted to make existence as we experience it today, why can God not use a mechanism whereby existence evolves from a primal stage to a later stage? What are God's restrictions?

Also, please explain why a god is not necessary for a process of evolution.
10:44 AM on 09/25/2012
"I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll. He who testifies to these things says, 'Yes, I am coming soon.'" (Rev. 22: 18-20)
08:40 AM on 09/25/2012
I wonder if the gap theory can help explain some of what seems to be contradictory. I think Chuck Missler's writtings along these lines does a good job of explaining how scripture and science can go hand in hand. I appreciate the blog post and found it interesting. As a pastor though, I have learned myself that usually when a problem arises.....it is not that the bible needs editing but that we are missing something.
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whirlpool
founder walnut tree congregation
11:03 AM on 09/25/2012
Good for you pastor. Stick to your stories no matter how much evidence piles up against them. That is what religion does.
04:58 PM on 09/25/2012
My apologies if I offended....certainly not my intent. I try to be tolerant of other view points out there and enjoy reading articles like the one we are all commenting on. I can appreciate your feelings on what is a sensitive subject at times for many people and for a wide range of reasons. The church, universally, has not done a very good job of presenting itself in a loving way with people who disagree with any and or all of our doctrine. Anyway.....I appreciate your response and apologize again if it sounded "preachy".
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10:46 AM on 09/27/2012
Contradictions are usually tested until one is clearly seen to be fact and they do generally not co-exist.
As for gaps, a good example to illustrate the difference and proper use of theory and fact would be Mendeleyevs early table of the elements.
He understood the properties of material but did not know them all.
He predicted the existence of certain materials even though they were unknown
he did not have ‘god’ or saints names written in place of Einsteinium or Radium, even though there were clear gaps.
Theory is an abused word these days, abused to the point where society is now demonstration quite a serious intellectual disability.
Making things up is not filling gaps but investigation and understanding is.

As Laplace said to Napoleon when he asked Laplace where god was in his explanation of planetary motion involving gravity and centrifugal force, ‘I had no need for that hypothesis’
Laplace saw no gap and no contradiction.

Chuck Missler is no Lapalce nor is he a Mendeleyev
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504
nor is he a Shakesphere-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBBqjMgPmYo

Perhaps I’ve misunderstood you
05:20 AM on 09/25/2012
The entire Bible can be said to be an amalgam of editing. From the redaction of the competing Yahwist, Priestly, Deuteronomist and Elohist torahs to Jeremaiah’s complaint Jer 8:8 "How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?” which declares the people don't know the LORD's ordinances and explains why not: the Torah has been falsified by the pen of the scribes.

>>>>In the NT, the most glaring example of textual manipulation is the notorious “Johannine Comma” of 1John 5:7 whose “ Trinity” section is conterfeit. The “Father, Son and HG” section was inserted into scripture by 4th century Latin Trinitarians during a religious feud that was intended to discredit Arians. The KJV picked up the insertion from latin Vulgate manuscripts that were manipulated, and this is known because more reliable manuscripts--eg Codex Sinaiticus--were found after the KJV was released which exposed the deceit of the Vulgate manipulators.
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02:19 AM on 09/25/2012
No need to edit the bible christians like most of those religious dont pay that much attention to their prophets teachings. edit would accomplish nothing.

The spiritual teachings are out there by many advanced spiritual teachers; it is living by their words that lies the path that is less traveled.

The american culture is soooooooo different than the teachings of jesus one could hardly see if they looked even a trace of the teachings of jesus being lived out in america.

A nation that on going wars for corp profits and calls itself a christian nation. you gotta love that aspect of denial. or not.
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whirlpool
founder walnut tree congregation
11:08 AM on 09/25/2012
You make some good points about the sorry state of Christianity in America.
02:16 AM on 09/25/2012
No problem reconciling all this. In the words of scripture, "one day is as a thousand years" giving wide scope for multiple interpretations. For those true believers, the Theory of Evolution is just that - a theory. Whether with the Bible, Darwin or a thousand other explanations for our earth and universe, conclusions need to be continually modified to fit the best evidence, science and logic available. And we can all debate the meaning of what is happening at the seams.
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umbriago
The Tooth Shall Set My Fee
12:36 AM on 09/25/2012
I would leave it as it is, merely adding a proviso at the beginning:

"Important-----if true."
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Dave24
Without God, life is everything.
12:12 AM on 09/25/2012
Not only can we and do we edit the bible cafeteria-style, but we created every fiction and fable within it as well.
10:58 PM on 09/24/2012
What a way to deal with sin. If you don't like it just edit it out.
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11:01 AM on 09/27/2012
I'd imagine any revisions would edit more in rather than edit any out.
Give me liberal democracy any day, bad and all as the right-wing tell you it is.
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c-tom
Badges we don't need no stinking badges
09:32 PM on 09/24/2012
A simpler edit would be to cut out the begats and the war stories. That makes for an much easier read. I like to read the J portion of the first 4 books; a shorter and more consistent version.
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12:23 AM on 09/25/2012
What's wrong with the "begats"? Don't you like soap opera?
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c-tom
Badges we don't need no stinking badges
09:33 AM on 09/25/2012
A list of men and their male children are really not a fun read unless you are related or like Bishop Ussher you're trying to date the Creation.