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Karl Giberson, Ph.D

Karl Giberson, Ph.D

Posted: May 3, 2010 10:55 AM

My Dead Relatives in the Sky

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On Saturday my mother was laid to rest beneath the rural soil of her beloved New Brunswick countryside. It was a peaceful setting, with a drizzle of rain and some sunlight that finally got the upper hand as the ceremony ended. The wind whined a bit coming up the hill, and birds chirped in the background.

My mom loved nature and its many creatures; it was a special passion that she passed on to her children and grandchildren. When Mother Nature flexed her muscles with blizzards, great winds, or thunderstorms, my mom would often call me to the window, to sit on a chair and look out, as if a movie were playing on the glass. Our kitchen window held a homemade feeder where the birds of winter fed on suet and seeds. I remember on one bitterly cold day, Mom brought me to watch a chickadee stand on one leg as it pulled the other against its feathers for warmth.

My mom died four months ago in the bleak midwinter, when deep snow and ground as hard as iron made it impossible to dig a grave. Today's late April burial is early by New Brunswick standards. About 25 people stood around the grave, some with umbrellas, all with warm coats. Mom's great-grandson scampered about, happily oblivious. We sang four verses of "Amazing Grace," and a country pastor read from the Bible. He made reference, as Christians always do, to the belief that such partings are temporary and that we would see my mother again in Heaven.

The pastor spoke these familiar words of hope with the same straightforward assurance as when he announced that my sister was providing lunch a bit later for everyone at her home not far from the graveside. In his mind, perhaps, both future events were equally straightforward, and he was untroubled affirming them.

The road that ran past the graveside had few cars on it, and I think two went by during the ceremony. My mother used to ski to school along a similar road, in the days before buses. She often told me, with great nostalgia, how the kids from up and down that road skied together to their one-room schoolhouse. The kids farthest from the school would start first and the closer ones would watch from their windows and join the group as it came into their yards. Gradually a parade of laughing children, wearing hand-knit scarves and mittens and breathing white clouds into the frosty air, would be lined up, skiing together to a school heated by a woodstove along a well-worn path through the snow. The younger children would sometimes fall behind and be rescued by a big boy at the front who would ski back and carry the straggler to the front of the line.

In my mind's eye I picture my mother as a seven-year old straggler struggling to keep up on her hand-made wooden skis -- eventually handed down to me -- and then being rescued by a hero twice her age who would take her to the front of the line. To be Canadian is to love winter and stories of winter.

As I stared at the oak coffin about to be lowered into the ground, I wondered what it would be like to see my mother again and share once again our mutual affection for the glories of Canadian winters. For the last years of her life she fought a long war of attrition with Parkinson's disease and died a little bit every day. The day she officially died was little different than the others; it was just the particular day that the cold winter wind pulls the last leaf from the tree.

The graveyard was surrounded by trees preparing their spring garb. The Christian belief in eternal life is often compared to the cycle of the seasons. We look ahead to new life in the spring even as we see the cold taking its toll in the fall. In faith we look ahead to new life in heaven.

Belief in eternal life, though, is hard for me. My mind has been largely taken over by science and has trouble getting itself around ideas so far outside the normal course of events. But I still believe...

In an exchange with a prominent "New Atheist," I argued that belief in God provides a "richer and more complex view of reality" than the purely materialistic belief that the physical world is all there is. My affirmation, not surprisingly, was ridiculed as a fancy way of saying "after I die I'll be able to meet my dead relatives in the sky." This isn't what I meant at the time, of course, but it came to mind, nonetheless, as I stood beside my mother's coffin and wondered if I would someday "meet her in the sky."

My atheist critic, speaking for so many of his materialistic brothers-in-arms, says that such a view does not enrich reality: "It's impoverished," he says, "by adherence to magic and superstition." Perhaps he is right, but I don't think so.

My belief in God grounds a hope that I might one day see the wonderful woman in that coffin again. This hope does seem magical to me, but it's not superstitious. Standing at my mother's graveside with that hope seems so much richer than standing there without it.

In memory of my mother, Ursula Giberson (1929-2009).

 
 
 
On Saturday my mother was laid to rest beneath the rural soil of her beloved New Brunswick countryside. It was a peaceful setting, with a drizzle of rain and some sunlight that finally got the upper ...
On Saturday my mother was laid to rest beneath the rural soil of her beloved New Brunswick countryside. It was a peaceful setting, with a drizzle of rain and some sunlight that finally got the upper ...
 
 
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Roman Catholic, Anti-DEATH, Combat Vet, Sinner
03:12 PM on 05/14/2010
The soul we each posess will return to God, from whence it came. God will judge the poor sinful soul, or save it with His mercy. Which has a lot to do with whether or not the person who is that soul sought to discover what God and who God is. That is NOT done with science. Science ONLY is capable of discovering the physical, not the spiritual world, and GOD is spirit. Read the life of Padre Pio, Read the accounts of the village of Fatima, Portugal between the months of May and October 1917, then you will have seen enough to know exactly how real the world you can't see actually is. Consider it a starting point from which to seek God.
06:24 PM on 05/13/2010
I hope I don't have to see my cousin after death. I can't stand him.
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02:52 PM on 05/13/2010
Have not read this Article, but does the author actually believe his dead relatives are actually waiting for him in the sky or heaven somewhere?
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lakabux
Imagine...
07:00 PM on 05/17/2010
Why on earth would you ask such a snarky question after having admitted that you had not bothered to read the article?

Wow.
12:52 AM on 05/12/2010
his remarks are the belief that the materialistic world we stand in is all there is. that seems to be one of the main tenets of most of the atheists I know including family members. and many atheists with their remarks close the door to further discussion by making ridicule their first line of defense for their point of view. and its all point of view on both sides isn't it. that person's mother knows the truth and the only way any of us can truly know is to follow her there. ridicule is the curse and bain of atheism because it makes atheists as small as the bone headed fundamentalists they curse back at.
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Debbie338
What we manifest is before us
06:12 PM on 05/11/2010
I'm sorry for your loss. But, I must comment on your apparent lack of understanding of Atheism:

"My atheist critic, speaking for so many of his materialistic brothers-in-arms..."

Materialism is no more a characteristic of atheism as it is of Christianity. If anything, I think we tend to appreciate the natural world even more than believers do.
08:31 AM on 05/12/2010
the line you quoted referenced his earlier statement: "...more complex view of reality" than the purely materialistic belief that the physical world is all there is..."

he was using the word "materialistic" to describe the belief that there is no spiritual heaven beyond the tangible, phyiscal world. He wasn't speaking about a love of material things as in the Madonna song.

This kind of materialism really does separate atheists from many religious denominations. In fact, that is the whole point of atheism - to separate out from those who believe in God and a spiritual world beyond this life.
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Debbie338
What we manifest is before us
11:01 AM on 05/12/2010
I stand corrected. I should have read more carefully.
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f0rTyLeGz
Everything is falling.
04:18 AM on 05/09/2010
I'm sorry about your mother passing... she sounds like a wonderful person.

Karl you say, "Standing at my mother's graveside with that hope seems so much richer than standing there without it." "Richer?!" You must agree that you have no idea what "standing there without it" feels like?

One thing I wish that believers would get is that we non-believers can no more choose to believe than you believers can choose to not believe. We aren't being mean or contrary. We actually don't think there is anything supernatural going on here. Many of us believe that having a life as a human being is a dazzeling phenomena. And that each and every one of us is an occurrence in time and space that is rarer than the existence of a galaxy.
09:58 PM on 05/09/2010
I totally agree with you. I wish I did believe in an afterlife. It would be wonderful to think that I might be reunited with loved ones later on. Both of my parents are dead, and I am relatively young. I can't make myself believe in God, and I've tried so hard to do so. I just see the beauty in every day because for all I know, it's all I have.
12:28 AM on 05/10/2010
Cheer up Blues
The Galactic Federation of Light says we will meet up again with all of our friends and family.
They say we will be together with our family in Heaven. They say they will help clean up Earth and teach us the truth about where we came from. Our family is really alive just right on the other side in a different dimension and that is where we all will be soon. Think of Heaven as an acid trip on steroids. That is our real home. We are now in class learning how to live with love in Heaven. They believe in God also and can teach us how to speak to God ourselves.
Google Elohim and Sumerians.
03:16 AM on 05/10/2010
I hope you can accept my comments for what they are... I believe that if you can still see the beauty in everyday life, then you already know God. For I feel God's Love in the Beauty that you are able to see, touch, taste, smell, feel and hear. I know how hard it is to keep believing in God when you feel like you have been abandoned. I've felt abandoned most of my life. Despite my biological parents being semi-religious, their hypocrytical lifestyle left me to fend for myself against horrific circumstances. I've got a lot of battle wounds and scars, but I am still alive. No matter how terrible the damaging things that I've seen, witnessed and survived have been, I am still able to see the beauty of a rainbow, the artistry of the sky, the color palet of the earth, the beautiful variety of the human -- and non-human species--flaws and all.
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HoustonReality
12:51 AM on 05/15/2010
Thank you.....well said!
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Dolfina
01:24 AM on 05/08/2010
My daughter called and said, "mom, go outside and look up, the Monarchs are migrating". Those were the last words I heard her speak. When I arrived home from errands, she had already been taken by the angels to "be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord". It is my profound belief in the resurrection, long before she was ever born, that has given me the sweet and knowing that I shall she her again, for "the dead in Christ shall rise first, and we who are alive and remain shall be caught up to join them". This is a mystery, a great mystery, and to make light of it is to confirm "the fool hath said in his heart, 'there is no God'!
11:16 AM on 05/07/2010
I knew this Japanese guy while in the military, pretty sure he was Shinto and they really revere their ancestors. Most all my relatives are dead and lately I find more comfort in trying to relate to them rather than some amorphous much manipulated concept of God.
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Elijah A Alexander Jr
Elijah NatureBoy
10:24 PM on 05/06/2010
As an old but seldom heard of "Christian Atheist" and a naturalist, nature provides us with symbols saying "eternal life" is a fact, evergreen plants. Seasonal plants represent the shot term reincarnating with the leaves representing the body and wood the lifeforce. The Bible provides us with Enoch, Moses [although he died is written], Elijah and Jesus as people who entered everlasting life, thus, discarnating doesn't get us there.

Then the Bible say "the dead in christ will rise (reincarnate) first then those who alive and remain..." will all go there. Matthew 20:1-16 indicates in a prorated manner beginning with the last to enter the straight way with a narrow gate first. To my way of realizing life, seeing your mother and rehearsing old times will not happen.
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emmanuel goldstein
Have you had your two minutes today?
07:55 PM on 05/06/2010
Belief in an afterlife is like belief in humanity pulling it's act together and everyone living in peace someday. Might be a pipe dream, but the alternative is crap, so instead, I choose to believe, and plan my life accordingly.
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11:50 PM on 05/06/2010
That's the problem. If you believe in things that aren't real, they enter into your planning. You can't plan accordingly using false assumptions. Perhaps, if people didn't believe in an afterlife, they would care more about the only real one they, and everyone else, has.

Preacher man, don't tell me,
Heaven is under the earth.
I know you don't know
What life is really worth.
It's not all that glitters is gold;
'Alf the story has never been told:
So now you see the light, eh!
Stand up for your rights. come on!
Most people think,
Great god will come from the skies,
Take away everything
And make everybody feel high.
But if you know what life is worth,
You will look for yours on earth:
And now you see the light,
You stand up for your rights. jah!
We sick an' tired of-a your ism-skism game -
Dyin' 'n' goin' to heaven in-a Jesus' name, lord.
We know when we understand:
Almighty god is a living man.
You can fool some people sometimes,
But you can't fool all the people all the time.
So now we see the light (what you gonna do?),
We gonna stand up for our rights! (yeah, yeah, yeah! )
Get up, stand up!
Don't give up the fight!

The Honourable Robert Nesta Marley, O.M.
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emmanuel goldstein
Have you had your two minutes today?
12:31 AM on 05/07/2010
*sigh*. The only way to prepare for the afterlife properly is to live the most enriched, beauty, and joy filled life, all while helping others as best you can., as far as my, and many other, religions are concerned. Read "what Dreams May Come", do't bother with the movie, and you will understand.
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Cheryl Petersen
07:47 PM on 05/06/2010
Both of my parents died. My mind sees and hears them. Maybe the only thing that died was my belief they lived in a physical realm. www.healingsciencetoday.com
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CarmenCameron
Hoping 4 a US version of the Arab Spring
02:25 PM on 05/06/2010
cont...

The real beauty of this, though, is not just that I have proof Don said goodbye. It is the fact that he was SO happy. He had always spoken wistfully of taking a cruise around the world. As his spirit departed up and away from me, it was if he were boarding the gangplank of that ship.

We not only survive our physical death, we get the greatest experience of our lifetimes. Call that "fantasy" if you choose. I know that it is fact.
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CarmenCameron
Hoping 4 a US version of the Arab Spring
02:25 PM on 05/06/2010
My best friend was killed in October 1984 while 1500 miles from my home but his spirit said goodbye at the exact moment of his death. As I walked with my then-husband into an arena for an Arabian horse show, it was as if my friend was walking behind me and, as I stopped and turned to greet him, it was as if a silk scarf gently brushed across my left cheek. Then, just as suddenly and unexpectedly, I felt him pass ahead of me and upwards, into a dark and star-filled sky.

Sounds like a nice fantasy to an atheist or unbeliever but my reactions were witnessed by my brilliant then-husband, a chemist and engineer who, glancing at his chronometer, brusquely called out to me that I was going to make us late for our engagement. "It's ten minutes to eight and they're going to turn the lights out in the arena," he called out from about ten steps ahead.

When we went out to SF for his funeral a few days later, we were told he died at exactly ten minutes to five, Pacific time (ten minutes to eight, Eastern) as the bullet that killed him had passed through the antique pocket watch he was wearing in his vest and stopped it then, confirming the testimony of other eye witnesses.
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02:24 PM on 05/07/2010
"Sounds like a nice fantasy to an atheist or unbeliever..."

Everyone has stories like that. It's the law of large numbers.
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05:24 PM on 05/11/2010
Your husband has a chronometer and your friend carried an antique pocket watch in his vest pocket? Unless you are HG Wells or Sherlock Holmes, you keep strange company.
04:11 AM on 05/06/2010
I'm very sorry about your mom. She sounds like she was a wonderful woman, and it appears that you'll be carrying some good-sized, good pieces of her in your own walk through life.

In a way that I find hard to explain, but also in a way that has helped me a lot with my own grief of losing my "favorite" sister, I remind myself from time to time that she's not really completely gone until the last living memory of her is also gone, especially my memory, since it's the one I refer to daily.

I'm a pretty staunch atheist, like everyone else on the planet, (I just go it one god further than many) and I agree with your debating partner in that subscribing to a better afterlife cheapens the one we have in front of us right now.

When my sister died, my family hired a preacher for the service, and he did a fairly good job of exploiting the grief (not that it was a difficult job, it's what they do in these situations) with all the Jesus and Savior talk. Of course my bible belt, very loosely believing family, knew where all this went, and received zero comfort from his words, as we all knew my sis didn't subscribe to this stuff at all. Ce la vie.
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CarmenCameron
Hoping 4 a US version of the Arab Spring
02:30 PM on 05/06/2010
I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised by what can't be sliced and put into a beaker.
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emmanuel goldstein
Have you had your two minutes today?
07:23 PM on 05/06/2010
"'m a pretty staunch atheist, like everyone else on the planet, (I just go it one god further than many) "
Atheists have watered down the meaning of the word atheist to be almost meaningless. I am not an atheist simply because I don't believe in some gods. An atheist does not believe in any kind of god, a theist believes in some kind of God. Big difference.
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02:30 PM on 05/07/2010
"An atheist does not believe in any kind of god, a theist believes in some kind of God. Big difference."

If you do not believe in any old god, then you would not act as if gods besides yours exist, right? You don't spend your days worrying if Shiva will punish you or if you are not properly respecting Odin, do you?
03:43 AM on 05/06/2010
While I adamantly debated Christian Apologetics as a ministrial-student and fervent Evangelical for the first 35 years of my Life, I no longer argue theology. As real as any belief or experience may be for a particular person, it will never satisfy the soul-search of another. The existence of a higher-power can only be proven BY THAT HIGHER POWER; short of that, no amount of convincing will satisfy. Some suppose an atheist has the most miserable existance, since they do not have hope of a better world than this one. I propose, however, that the most miserable is the one lived by the person who is hoping/doubting based on the word of another, and not on an internal peace. That is a torturous futility, yet, conceivably out-done only by the misery of one whose ego-centricity led them to reject an actual encounter with the Divine.

What we DO know about 'life after death' is that a person's essence still has influence in this physical realm once 'they' are no longer. Our DNA continues on in the bodies of our offspring, but so it is with animals. Our remembrance affects those who knew us and the future generations to find out about us, but so it is with villians. The results of our efforts remain, but so do an asteroid's. So, what meaning does our being have?

Maybe, THAT we wonder AT ALL about fulfillment/posterity, is more of an answer than we realize.