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Kathleen Reardon

Kathleen Reardon

Posted: October 6, 2008 03:09 PM

Nearly As Far-Fetched As The Maverick Lie -- Negotiation Preconditions


John McCain and Sarah Palin have criticized Barack Obama and Joe Biden for their willingness to talk with world leaders without preconditions. First, it's either naive or a fabrication when McCain suggests Obama will suddenly pop up at a negotiation with the leadership of Iran. There are always a host of preparatory and diplomatic steps taken before such events. McCain knows that.

Negotiation is nearly always a process that begins before the parties actually meet whether the negotiation is between organization senior executives or senior government officials. To think otherwise is indeed naive.

When Barack Obama says he will meet with leaders of countries hostile to the U.S., no doubt he intends to do so with skill and both insistence and persistence as needed. He simply doesn't want to force his ideas down their throats before he even gets on the plane. And he knows that if he lays out publicly what he wants and they can't deliver, he may need to publicly back down. That's never good.

The preconditions that Condoleezza Rice and others in the Bush Administration have publicly proclaimed in the past were based on the increasingly faulty assumption that the U.S. always has the upper hand. But the world has changed. And George W. Bush eventually had to change, agreeing by his actions with Senator Arlen Specter who has long called for negotiations with world leaders without preconditions.

The current economic crisis demonstrates how interdependent countries truly are and with whom they are willing to talk to save themselves. If the U.S. won't budge, if it throws its weight around like a schoolyard bully, insulted countries may turn to China or Russia. To not recognize this is indeed naive.

It's important to point out, too, that stringent preconditions such as the cessation of violence can actually play into the hands of those who have a vested interest in continuing it. They'd like nothing better than a chance to assure the talks never take place by doing more of what they prefer - being violent. In this sense, publicly pronounced preconditions can elicit more of what negotiators hope to stop.

You have to wonder, too, when McCain/Palin claim they'll reach across the aisle to Democrats if they win the election, whether there will be preconditions beforehand then too. If so, a President McCain and Vice President Palin would likely find themselves waiting alone in a room as indignant members of Congress go out for a long lunch.

Prof. Reardon is the author of The Skilled Negotiator and blogs as bardscove.

John McCain and Sarah Palin have criticized Barack Obama and Joe Biden for their willingness to talk with world leaders without preconditions. First, it's either naive or a fabrication when McCain su...
John McCain and Sarah Palin have criticized Barack Obama and Joe Biden for their willingness to talk with world leaders without preconditions. First, it's either naive or a fabrication when McCain su...
 
 
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mjc
Avoid printing any..
10:23 AM on 10/07/2008
Even though the world political situation has changed in the past few years, when Barack Obama made that statement he did not seem to understand the true value of negotiating with the enemy BUT through diplomatic channels and feelers FIRST. He was rash and new at the job of pretending to be president and perhaps that was understandable. Ahmadinejad is not, as some one mentioned, the president of Iran, but he is the spokesman. The back channels, the others in the government supporting the leader, are good to have and to know in long term negotiations and both sides get to know how sincere, how valid, how questionable the proposals are that are forthcoming. Giving up all your plans, your proposals BEFORE going to meet with the head of the foreign government is just plain nuts. It defeats the purpose of NEGOTIATION. And it stiffens any resistance that might be there as well. But Obama is a charmer and perhaps that is why he believes in no preconditions. Why Arlen Specter believes no preconditions are okay is a mystery, but if you have ever seen and heard the man you probably don't believe he is too enthralled with diplomatic relationships either.
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JimR
12:11 PM on 10/07/2008
"Giving up all your plans, your proposals BEFORE going to meet with the head of the foreign government is just plain nuts. It defeats the purpose of NEGOTIATION."

And no one is suggesting that. I'm not sure where you're getting this stuff.
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twgbonehead
08:04 AM on 10/07/2008
"The preconditions that Condoleezza Rice and others in the Bush Administration have publicly proclaimed in the past were based on the increasingly faulty assumption that the U.S. always has the upper hand."

No, the preconditions were based on the fact that Bush and Rice didn't WANT to have the talks, but they wanted to make it look like they tried (and wanted to be able to blame N. Korea, Iran, etc).

Just another example of changing the baseline so their inanity looks normal.....
02:32 AM on 10/07/2008
Most Americans seem to have no idea how far the US has slipped with the international community, or they wouldn't support the Republican style of "we always know best."

I live abroad, so I see things most Americans never will. Sure, there are a lot of people that still respect Americans, but they sure don't want it to be America that influences the direction of their country.
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
11:25 PM on 10/06/2008
As long as our policy towards Iran is regime change (and it is) they have no incentive to talk to us. They're not going to negotiate themselves out of existence.
guajiro
posted 5 minutes ago
11:15 PM on 10/06/2008
"And he knows that if he lays out publicly what he wants and they can't deliver, he may need to publicly back down. That's never good."

Totally agree. In any negotiation it is always to one's advantage TO NOT REVEAL ONE'S HAND ahead of negotiations; thus a meeting WITHOUT preconditions. Only an idiot would reveal what his wants are so as to arm the enemy. Isn't that what all the Republican trolls were so against previously when talking about the Iraq pullout? They claimed that to say or specify ahead of time of a particular withdraw date played into the hands of the enemy because it allowed them to hold all the cards once they knew the preconditions. Now these Republican trolls are against their own stands of earlier? Looks like the Republican brand is lost in the fog.
08:53 AM on 10/07/2008
"If we announce a timeline for withdraw they will just wait for us to leave..."

This line of reasoning is fundamentally absurd. They, the Iraqis, live in Iraq. They will be there no matter what. When we leave as all other aggressors have throughout time, Iraqis, or whatever they are called, will still be there. I don't think their goal is to wait. Their goal is to live!
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ElBruce
11:13 PM on 10/06/2008
Preconditions to negotiations is simply putting the cart before the horse. "Agree to everything we want and then we'll negotiate for what we want." It's... what's the word? Something that applies to neocons... Oh yeah, stupid.
10:40 PM on 10/06/2008
The bottom line is that Ahmadinejad is NOT the leader of Iran.

Thus any quote McPalin uses to try and claim that Obama would sit down with Ahmadinejad is a flat out lie.
11:40 PM on 10/06/2008
Putin is still called president of Russia too... it seems no one knows Dmitry Medvedev
09:07 PM on 10/06/2008
The main stream medias in the U.S. aren't carrying the story that world wide news agencies broke yesterday that the NATO commanding general stated the war in Afghanistan cannot be won and the best they can hope for is to contain the insurgents. He went on to say a peace deal has to be brokered by diplomacy between the Taliban and the Afghanistan Government.

The fact is you can't win anything today through wars except of course if you are an oil company or munitions magnate or a private security corporation then profits will soar and troops will die but the average person will lose.
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super
08:23 PM on 10/06/2008
If McCain and Palin lay down preconditions for reaching across the aisle to Democrats if they win the election, the Democrats will ask them, "How high should we jump?"
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peterg76
Freelance medical transcriptionist
08:17 PM on 10/06/2008
Not only is it no longer true that the "U.S. always has the upper hand," but you especially can't fool Iran, which is right next door to a war that the US is losing.
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PDinCA
Clarity has reared its ugly head again
10:47 PM on 10/06/2008
Actually, Iran has a mess of a US war on both sides. Sandwiched between Iraq and Afghanistan, is it really any wonder Iran doesn't trust us?
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Kassandra
Idiot savant artistic genius
07:58 PM on 10/06/2008
We BETTER start talking, we're in a MESS with our allies;maybe the war bullying or because of the financial meltdown that is now global. China now owns us and these idiots who are trying to start a new"cold war" with Russia are forgetting a few things: http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/05/america/gap.php

We need grown-ups in our government, not school yard bullies.
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
07:52 PM on 10/06/2008
If your precondition is "Agree to everything we want and then we'll talk" there's really no point in talking.
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BrettnCalgary
08:12 PM on 10/06/2008
The neocons don't want to talk, they want merely to be able to say they tried, as a sop when they launch new wars. If any country they are imposing conditions on met them, they would most likely raise the ante once again to prevent conversation.
07:46 PM on 10/06/2008
The International Political Situation is much more complicated now than 8 years ago at Bush Inaguration.

There is turmoil in Pakistan, a Nation with Hydrogen Bombs and Rockets. The Wars of Iraq and Afghanistan seem Eternal.

Even the closest friends of Israel acknowledge that Israel is in trouble because the Enemies inside Lebanon and Palestine are worse than eight years ago. Saudi Arabia and other Arab Nations are volatile.

Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, and many other Fanatics and Extremists have been in the rise during these past eight years.

Israel changed a lot of Palestinians accused of grave crimes for some dead corpses or skelentons.

Latin America is complicated by Demential Guys like Hugo Chavez, Daniel Ortega and Rafael Correa.
Evo Morales is a fool that I pity. But the other three guys belong in a madhouse.

There are many similarities between Hugo Chavez and John McCain. John is the American Mirror image of Hugo :

Aggressivite, Hate, Inferioriy Complexes, Irrationality, Impetuousness, they do not take counsel or advice, rash actions, revenge, hate, hate, hate, creating enemies outside. Enemies of consulting and diplomacy. Practicioners of extreme nationalism or Jingoism, Idiotic Patriotism.

American Youth and Ethnic Minorities will save us from the danger of more Irrationality, Rashness, that is undue haste or lack of deliberation and caution.

Oh dear America, save us and save yourself from more Irrationality and Imbecility.

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Vicente Duque
07:34 PM on 10/06/2008
After reading this piece I can see where as a nation America will be heading for more wars should McCain/Plain occupy the White House.

Even Thomas Friedman of the New York Times for the pass few months have been writing about the decline in the country's ability to apply any kind of leverage to non allied countries.

The truth of it is the Bush administration will leave a legacy of diminished moral and legal authority because of the Iraq War.
07:24 PM on 10/06/2008
I have never understood how McCain could claim the political high ground on fighting terror. Speaking as a Brit (with Irish parentage) I have witnessed first hand over a 15 year period the remarkable, not to say miraculous, turn around in the relationship between the British govt. and the Real IRA, and the healing of those wounds within the policital landscape of Ireland itself. All parties involved in this miracle acknowledge that real progress only began when pre-conditions were put to one side in the negotiations of the late 1990's onwards so that a meaningful dialogue could begin between all the parties involved.
The IRA killed innocent civilians on the British mainland for over 20 years. But throughout this period the UK govt. beginning with John Major and ending with Tony Blair some 15 years later, together with some very brave Irish politicians such as David Trimble, John Hume and many others (including Bill Clinton), never gave up on their negotiations, which were often held in secret.
There were many people throughout this time that said you shouldn't negotiate with terrorists, but the goal was always to bring a lasting peace to the situation. It worked. This is the only way sanity can deal with insanity and Obama has shown, like Tony Blair and Bill Clinton before him, that he has the right temperment to do the same with the terrible threats that face us all. The last thing we need in such a delicate situation is a maverick.